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September 02, 2008 6:20 pm ET

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Discussing Sen. Joe Lieberman's (I-CT) scheduled appearance at the Republican National Convention during the September 2 edition of MSNBC Live, NBC News Washington bureau chief Mark Whitaker misidentified Lieberman as a "leading Democrat." NBC News foreign affairs correspondent Andrea Mitchell also called Lieberman a "pariah in his own party." In fact, after losing the 2006 Connecticut Democratic primary to challenger Ned Lamont, Lieberman re-launched his Senate campaign as an independent in August 2006 and went on to defeat Lamont in the general election. On January 12, 2007, Congressional Quarterly reported that "Lieberman has asked to be called an Independent Democrat," and that "if the compound modifier that the senator prefers was not going to take hold, then Lieberman's second choice is to be described as an Independent."

Media Matters for America has previously documented other instances in which media figures and news outlets falsely referred to Lieberman as a Democrat.

From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the September 2 edition of MSNBC Live:

WHITAKER: Well, we just got out of a briefing with top McCain people going through the schedule tonight, and what we're going to see is, first, George Bush coming remote from the White House, introduced by the first lady, and then followed by [former Sen.] Fred Thompson [TN] and Joe Lieberman, who are essentially going to tell the country why John McCain is not George Bush.

MITCHELL: And Joe Lieberman is a double-edged sword because his very presence here, first of all, historic -- Joe Lieberman never before addressed a Republican convention and now pretty much a pariah in his own party -- but it's a constant reminder just seeing him up here how close he came to being the vice-presidential pick.

WHITAKER: On the one hand, it's an extraordinary moment. I mean, the idea of a leading Democrat as well-known as Joe Lieberman, who was the vice-presidential candidate in 2000, now coming out to vouch for the Republican nominee, and someone who knows him so well. But as you say, we now know that until basically 10 days ago, John McCain really wanted Lieberman to be his vice president, and that, again, keeps alive this story of how quickly did they shift to Governor Palin? How well was she vetted?

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    • Author by roundhouse (September 02, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
         
      I just heard a journalist on NPR call Lieberman an independent Democrat.
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      • Author by pointofview (September 02, 2008 7:25 pm ET)
           
        OMG.....the media called a life long dem, and the dem pick for vp....a democrat.  Stop the presses.
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        • Author by roundhouse (September 02, 2008 7:52 pm ET)
             
          OMG...he's not a Democrat, so he can't be a lifelong Democrat can he?

          Dolt.
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (September 02, 2008 9:44 pm ET)
               
            In 2006, Senator Lieberman was elected to a fourth term as an Independent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 02, 2008 10:14 pm ET)
                 
              He's actually the only member of the "Connecticut for Lieberman" Party. I saw Joe walk into a restaurant, and the maitred said, "Party of one?"
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        • Author by MissDee (September 03, 2008 6:32 am ET)
             

          "OMG.....the media called a life long dem, and the dem pick for vp....a democrat.  Stop the presses."

          Just because the other monkeys kick one out of the group for agreeing with the gorillas doesn't mean he still isn't  a monkey :D  LOL

           

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 03, 2008 9:08 am ET)
               
            That makes even less sense than your usual nonsensical posts, Miss DeeMinus.
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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 03, 2008 11:55 am ET)
                 

              Come on, ETRW, it had all of the elements of a perfect Republican joke; It didn't make any sense, it wasn't funny, it wasn't based in reality, it was followed by a happy face emoticon, and (the wingnut equivalent of the laugh track on a crappy sitcom) the undeserved "LOL"

              A smash hit at Wingnuts Comedy Club!

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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (September 03, 2008 10:10 am ET)
               
            He's not a Democrat.  He LEFT THE PARTY.  He OPPOSED the Perty's nominee!  OFFICIALLY and PUBLICLY.  Just because he's not a Republican doesn't mean he's one of us!  (Or: Just because you don't want him, doesn't mean we do!)  LEACH is a Republican.  (And maybe even a Maverick!)  LIEBERMAN is an Independant.  (I-CT)  That's what "I" means.  Calling him a DEMOCRAT makes it falsely look like the Republicans have some Deomcratic support.  They don't.  Just a turncoat who's too cowardly to end a war and not principaled enough to step down when his party no longer supported his platform.
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      • Author by Graydogs (September 03, 2008 1:25 pm ET)
           

        Here is Lieberman at the RNC convention:

        “What, after all, is a Democrat like me doing at a Republican convention like this?” Mr. Lieberman asked. “The answer is simple. I’m here to support John McCain because country matters more than party.”

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        • Author by commonsenseliberal (September 03, 2008 5:44 pm ET)
             

          Note to Lieberman:  If country is more important than party, why did you leave the only party that makes sense (Democratic Party)?

          Lieberman, with alll due respect, you're a traitorous putz.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (September 02, 2008 6:38 pm ET)
         
      Well, he was a Democrat and ran for VP as a Democrat on a Democrat ticket, but to still call him a leading Democrat is purely misleading. If that's the case, then what would have happened if a certain POW chose him instead of a former beauty contestant winner?
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      • Author by SFnomad (September 02, 2008 6:57 pm ET)
           

        wuss, are you illiterate? Or just obtuse? It's a Democratic ticket, not a Democrat ticket.

        Anyway, to answer your question ... 'If that's the case, then what would have happened if a certain POW chose [Lieberman] instead of a former beauty contestant winner?'

        He would certainly lose the election then.  The POW is already on shaky ground with the far right loons (aka as the Republican Base), but that would probably turn to outright mutiny, if he had picked Lieberman.  Lieberman is pro-choice, pro stem cells, against restrictions on morning after pill and drugs like RU-486, etc.

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        • Author by ukobserver (September 02, 2008 7:24 pm ET)
             
          As much as l would normally jump on DAWUSS for what he has posted you can see how the republican mantra calling it "The Democrat Party" has taken a hold. Ten years of media manipulation and republican smearing have unfortunatly been very effective.
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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 02, 2008 6:56 pm ET)
         

      quote- NBC News Washington bureau chief Mark Whitaker misidentified Lieberman as a "leading Democrat."

      How the hell did this incompetent person become a bureau chief  Specially when Media matters has put this falsehood in the forefront so many times /

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 02, 2008 7:02 pm ET)
           

        I know I won't be able to help myself, and I'll end up checking out the post game wrap up of the Wingnut convention on Fox. After a week of them and all of am radio slagging the DNC convention as "nothing" and a "snorefest", I can't wait to see their hard hitting analysis of the Republicans.

        If I'm not mistaken, there's a slammin' double bill of Fred Thompson and Joe Lieberman tonight. That is going to be ON FIRE !

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        • Author by SFnomad (September 02, 2008 7:03 pm ET)
             
          There won't be any need for Ambien tonight.
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        • Author by princeofwheels (September 02, 2008 10:23 pm ET)
             

          Freddie Law and Order is telling us about McCains' military record and POW years. Congrats to Sen. McCain and he does deserve every medal he received. But they make it sound as if he was the only POW.

          Great move for the choir but I think after this, America will tire of his story only because of the repitition. It will be mentioned over and over by the media. So be it. When people tire of it, then the man will be called to answer questions about being president.

           

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 03, 2008 1:01 am ET)
               

            Prince, are you getting the same vibe I am from the Con-Vention (Concon?). You know they're aware that the non-stop focus on McCain's POW time has become a joke, but they're only increasing the amount of time talking about it. It looks to me like they're so out of ideas, they're just praying that they can get some ammo for portraying the other side as attacking or disrespecting Grampy's service.

            The bulk of the convention seems to be these authoritarian commands to respect McC's suffering by electing him president. 

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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (September 03, 2008 5:47 pm ET)
                 

              I'll have to admit: Fred Thompson did have a good point: Being a former POW doesn't make you qualified to be President of the United States. 

              I believe that's the only truth I've heard from the Republican Convention.

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      • Author by oscar the grouch (September 02, 2008 7:08 pm ET)
           
        Wolf, he's probably been asleep since 2000 when "the great orator" Joe Lieberman was the second leading Democrat in the DemocratIC party.
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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 02, 2008 7:55 pm ET)
             
          Speaks well for the MSNBC brass that thought this idiot would make a great bureau Chief...do I salute him or do I moon him ????
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        • Author by oscar the grouch (September 03, 2008 12:21 am ET)
             
          As an added, to most here, almost all of MSM has been asleep since late 2000.
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      • Author by pointofview (September 02, 2008 7:27 pm ET)
           
        Maybe it is because MMFA has no effect on the real world.  We all like to come here and fight, but no one really cares what MMFA is crying about today.  Take away the 75 or so posters here, and the 25 hard core ones, and no one else cares. 
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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 02, 2008 7:41 pm ET)
             
          which one of those two do you fall into ?
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        • Author by BillJ-MN (September 03, 2008 10:58 am ET)
             

          Maybe it is because MMFA has no effect on the real world. - POV

          Which leads one to wonder why so many pundits (O'Reilly, Savage, Limbaugh, etc.) with national audiences make so many defensive references to MMFA.

          Could it be they have more effect than you wish to grant them?

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    • Author by lapsedlawyer (September 02, 2008 7:01 pm ET)
         

      Well, his status in the Senate is that he does contribute to the Democratic Party majority their for all sorts of things -- committee assignments, organization, etc.  So calling him a "Democrat" doesn't frost me as much as calling him "leading."  I don't think he even has any chairmanships in the Senate anymore -- and not just because of his "independent" status.

      Plus, given this recent turn of showing up at the Republican convention to speak, I might say it's misleading to call him an "independent Democrat."  More like an "independent Republican."

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      • Author by lapsedlawyer (September 02, 2008 7:03 pm ET)
           
        "There" not "their."  Bad labor day recovery :-p
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 02, 2008 7:13 pm ET)
           
        didn't the brits call this activity a " turncoat " ???
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        • Author by ukobserver (September 02, 2008 7:26 pm ET)
             
          Nah, we just called them a wanker.
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          • Author by pointofview (September 02, 2008 7:30 pm ET)
               
            From your previous posts, my guess is that you have a lot of wanking experience. 
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            • Author by ukobserver (September 02, 2008 8:21 pm ET)
                 

              Oh My God, POV nearly made a funny!! He really nearly made a funny!!!

               

              Here's me thinking that day after day, post after post coming on here and trying to defend the worst administration in the history of the US with misinformation, cropped quotes, strawman arguements, republican talking points, fake outrage, hubris, innuendo, arrogance, stupidity, baffling irrelevent distrations from the main threads, moronic theories you could drive a Humvee through, and outright falsehoods all with the debating skills of a four year old with it's fingers in it's ears yelling "Naaa naaa naa, i'm not listening to you" at the top of it's voice would have dulled your abilty to give a humourous response to something else posted here!! We can all rejoice now, for surely the spirt of Samuel Clemens is alive and well living in you!! It is as if Oscar Wilde himself is reborn!! May the bells be rung and may the choirs sing!! Let it be shouted from all the highest highs of all high places for indeed, if it can be believed, POV made a slightly funny knob joke.   

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            • Author by MissDee (September 03, 2008 6:36 am ET)
                 

              "From your previous posts, my guess is that you have a lot of wanking experience. "

               Yes, and he proves it most every day on here. :D

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              • Author by ukobserver (September 03, 2008 7:27 am ET)
                   
                What's this? Is it the sound of conservative stupidity butting in? Why of course, it's MissDee, Media Matters answer to Maude Flanders!! Isn't the subject matter a bit risque for you? Maybe you should stick to finding hypocritical ways to defend Sarah Palin.
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    • Author by edenscape246494 (September 02, 2008 8:21 pm ET)
         

      LAWD

      So we got the least popular sitting President of all time speaking via satellite, we got a failed Republican candidate for President about to bore us through a speech even he'll look like he's sleeping through, and we got Joe "I got kicked out of my own party" Lieberman to boot

      If they want to fit even one more Loser up there they'll need a bigger waving flag background

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      • Author by ukobserver (September 02, 2008 8:37 pm ET)
           
        Last week BBC Parliament went live to the Democratic Convention every night at 2am here. The next day it repeated the main two hour prime time coverage and all the main speeches. The main BBC News 24 digital channel (with guest Ted Koppel) and Fox's sister station Sky News had regular 15 minute reports from the convention as well as going live to the speeches of Michelle Obama, Biden, both Clintons and Obama's. Why mention this? Because at the moment there is ZERO coverage of the RNC!!! Not even on the channel dedicated to politics!!! This speaks volumes about the republicans under Bush.
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        • Author by proudconservative (September 02, 2008 9:54 pm ET)
             
          I think it speaks volumes regarding the BBC.
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        • Author by pointofview (September 03, 2008 12:12 am ET)
             
          It shows the liberal media is alive and well.  Showing only one view.  You are for the first time ever correct.  It speaks volumes. 
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (September 02, 2008 8:24 pm ET)
         

      Given your record of comprehension, you feel free to insult based on what?

      UKO is better informed on US poitics then 80% of the wingnut population. I'd trade him for a couple wingnuts, no problem.

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      • Author by pointofview (September 03, 2008 12:13 am ET)
           
        Dont trade for him....go join him.....please
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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 03, 2008 1:48 am ET)
             
          POV, we're trying to increase the collective IQ over here. Quit working against us.I'd love to pitch in on a one-way ticket to anywhere for you, if it means working towards a time when there's no need for covering the Con-convention here.
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (September 03, 2008 11:07 am ET)
             

          Nope, gonna stick arround to remind you that you have little but hostility to offer to opinions that differ from neocon talking points.

          It's what any patriot would do.

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    • Author by tman418 (September 02, 2008 8:31 pm ET)
         
      With the inaccuracies aside, I'm still on the edge of my seat, waiting for Lieberman to join the Republicans. It's gonna happen sooner or later. I hope I'm wrong.
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      • Author by edenscape246494 (September 02, 2008 8:37 pm ET)
           
        After he swaps parties he can duel with Chris Matthews...christ, what one trick ponies these Repukes are
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    • Author by edenscape246494 (September 02, 2008 8:50 pm ET)
         

      Truth be told

      Diamond Joe Lieberman owes the GOP, he'd be working at the drive thru of a CT burger joint if it wasn't for the Republicans getting him re-elected

      If there is any justice the Dems will get a majority so they don't need Judas to caucus with them anymore and then they can kick him off the committees he chairs, maybe let him guard the water cooler...Independently

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 02, 2008 10:36 pm ET)
           
        well, me thinks the liebermann is going to be left out to dry if McCain does not make it to the White House this time. Historical records show that G Washington did hang a traitor once.
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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (September 02, 2008 10:46 pm ET)
         
      I am now, at this very moment, watching the RNC. I have just witnessed Thompson give a drunken rant. Now ir'a Joe Liberman. There seems to be a rent-a-negro somewhere in the mob. Sorry, I need a drink.
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    • Author by proudconservative (September 02, 2008 11:08 pm ET)
         

      I think that Joe Lieberman and Zell Miller speak for a significant number of Democrats, those who now call themselves 'Reagan Democrats' or Republicans because many of us see that what stands for today's democrat party is so far removed from what it once was and is now the collection of everything that is leftist.

      Lieberman is still a democrat, it's the democrat party that has gone left.

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      • Author by roundhouse (September 02, 2008 11:21 pm ET)
           
        Oh, please. If Lieberman is a liberal, I guess the entire GOP must be liberals. So you're a liberal too, then?

        Really though, a blathering right-wing authoritarian like yourself is the last person on the planet qualified to define what a liberal is.

        Now get yourself back to St. Paul, go bask in the glorious Republican police state and dream about sending all of us real liberals to concentration camps.
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        • Author by oscar the grouch (September 03, 2008 12:20 am ET)
             

          Except for WOT, Lieberman has had a very "progessive" track record.

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          • Author by roundhouse (September 03, 2008 1:15 am ET)
               
            Whatever, Oscar. He's been a middler unless you consider his support of school vouchers, the death penalty and free trade to be fairly progressive.
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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (September 03, 2008 9:17 am ET)
               

            Terror is an emotion. It is impossible to wage a war on an emotion.

            What's next, the War on the "Awwww!" Feeling One Gets When Looking at Puppies?

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      • Author by Craig (September 03, 2008 12:05 am ET)
           

        FWIW, polls say otherwise:

        "Barack Obama leads John McCain 88% to 5% among self-described Democrats (37% of likely voters). McCain leads Obama 83% to 11% among self-described Republicans (34% of likely voters). And Obama leads McCain 45% to 43% among self-described independent voters (29% of likely voters)."

        That's 1 in 9 Republicans for Obama to 1 in 20 Democrats for McCain.

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    • Author by pklute63 (September 03, 2008 6:56 am ET)
         
      I am a CT resident and Joe Lieberman cannot be trusted. When WE voted him out because he didn't care about the people of CT, he cried like a little baby, held his breath and became an independent promising to work for the people of CT. He promised to be an independent democrat and WE, not me though, believed him. Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me! WE cannot be fooled again by this turncoat.
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