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In text-message poll on McCain's speech, MSNBC offered only four positive responses

September 05, 2008 1:54 pm ET
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SUMMARY: In a text-message poll asking what Sen. John McCain's acceptance speech "accomplished the most," MSNBC gave viewers only positive responses to choose from. By contrast, when MSNBC asked viewers the week before what Sen. Barack Obama's acceptance speech "accomplished the most," one of the options given was, "Attacked John McCain."

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The day after Sen. John McCain's September 4 acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention, MSNBC conducted a text-message poll asking, "What do you feel McCain's speech accomplished the most?" But MSNBC gave viewers only positive responses to choose from; it did not give them the option of responding that the speech was in any way negative.

Specifically, the options given to respond to the September 5 MSNBC text-message poll were:

A. Inspired the nation
B. Explained what motivated his presidential run
C. Outlined his policy priorities if elected
D. Positioned himself as the tough maverick for change

By contrast, an MSNBC text-message poll conducted the day after Sen. Barack Obama's August 28 speech at the Democratic National Convention, asking, "What do you feel Obama's speech accomplished the most?" provided only three options, one of which was, "Attacked John McCain":

A. Inspired the nation
B. Outlined his policy priorities if elected
C. Attacked John McCain

From the 9 a.m. ET hour of the September 5 edition of MSNBC Live:

MSNBC McCain Poll

From the August 29 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

MSNBC Obama Poll

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    • Author by Semiauto (September 05, 2008 1:58 pm ET)
         
      I saw this right before heading to work and thought to myself, are those really my only options? How long before some Mccain shill is using the results as a talking point?
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (September 05, 2008 2:18 pm ET)
           
        Yeah, just the fact that the poll prompted only positive responses is proof of its shilling purpose. How much more blatant can they get?
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    • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:05 pm ET)
         
      Because McCain did not attack Obama in his speech last night.
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 05, 2008 2:07 pm ET)
           
        Yes he did. Absolutely when he said he had scars and obama didn't. A direct insultive charge that Obama did not serve in the military.
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (September 05, 2008 2:19 pm ET)
             
          Don't forget the 'if you think you're born into the world to save the country' line, too.
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        • Author by jeter2 (September 05, 2008 2:49 pm ET)
             

          Yes he did. Absolutely when he said he had scars and obama didn't. A direct insultive charge that Obama did not serve in the military.

          I don't think so Wolf. As you can see by the text below, McCain was talking about working in a bipartisan way & how he'd done it, & got a few "scars" from crossing the aisle, whereas Obama doesn't have similar political scars.

          Again and again, I've worked with members of both parties to fix problems that need to be fixed. That's how I will govern as President. I will reach out my hand to anyone to help me get this country moving again. I have that record and the scars to prove it. Senator Obama does not.

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          • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 05, 2008 2:57 pm ET)
               

            So McCain was lying, then?  (Obama has worked and co-sponsored bills w/ Lugar, Coburn, Hagel)

            Or was he just using figurative language to exaggerate his position?

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            • Author by jeter2 (September 05, 2008 2:59 pm ET)
                 
              Kyle, I was simply correcting something Wolf wrote. I'm not voting for McCain, nor am I defending him. Wolf posted mis-information. You know how that works right?
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              • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 05, 2008 3:00 pm ET)
                   

                Jeter-

                I was simply attacking McCain for lying to the American people.  You know how that works, right?

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                • Author by jeter2 (September 05, 2008 3:03 pm ET)
                     
                  Of course I do. But the point here was that Wolf claimed that what McCain said had to do with Obama's lack of a military record. It did not. Simple.
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                  • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 05, 2008 3:26 pm ET)
                       

                    I don't believe he really has political scars when he holds the record for missed votes in Congress, including the recent GI bill.

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                  • Author by Lorelei (September 05, 2008 3:27 pm ET)
                       
                    No, it didn't but it certainly "implied" it.
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                    • Author by jeter2 (September 05, 2008 3:48 pm ET)
                         

                      My God, I leave the text. And it's there in black & white, & still you argue? McCain was not implying a damn thing about Obama's lack of military service. Wolf was wrong. McCain was speaking about having the battle "scars" he'd gotten because he'd crossed the aisle on certain issues.. I would never ordinarily suggest you guys have a reading comprehension problem, but it's either that or you're just being disingenuous.

                      Whatever.

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                      • Author by MoonbatYouBet (September 05, 2008 4:04 pm ET)
                           

                        Agreed.  However McCain was trying to imply that somehow his work in the government was equivalent to his POW time.

                        Which is more disgusting- The cheapening of what happened to him in Vietnam by making such a comparison or the elevation of Congressional service to such a level?

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                      • Author by wolf kotenberg (September 05, 2008 4:32 pm ET)
                           
                        He was implying, if not outright stating, the POW experience ( I was a broken man )  prepared him for congressional service and quoting a sentence without noting the context of the speech, definitaly skews the meaning of the whole text. And he did mention Obama by name in the same sentence he mentioned scars. McCain has been in congressional service , without interruption, for 30 years that is not indicative of scarring. Unless the speech was meant to be a Rah Rah Hurrah feel good moment. McCain may have voted with the democrats here and there but in the bigger socio-political issues he sided on the safe side with the president, or skipped the vote.
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      • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 2:11 pm ET)
           
        What does your opinion that McCain did not attack Obama have to do with this?
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        • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:22 pm ET)
             
          What the F are you talking about?
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        • Author by pointofview (September 05, 2008 2:22 pm ET)
             
          His opinion is the fact this time.  McCain did not attack Obama.
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          • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 2:23 pm ET)
               

            “I’m not running for president because I think I’m blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need.”

            Whatever you say. 

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            • Author by historygeek001 (September 05, 2008 2:35 pm ET)
                 

              Gov:

              Don't disturb the narrative!  You aren't supposed to disturb them with facts; facts have a well-known liberal bias!

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          • Author by JLyons (September 05, 2008 2:32 pm ET)
               
            POV you are correct, McCain did not attack. But his venomous Palin and Rudy the "one who got rid of the urine smell" did all the dirty work.  Look for th GOP attack machine and FOX to continue the dirty work this week and weeks to come.
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (September 05, 2008 2:23 pm ET)
           
        Oh really? What were you doing during the speech... thinking about that Sarahcuda-lady?
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      • Author by my4cents (September 05, 2008 2:42 pm ET)
           
        Did Obama attack McCain in his speech?
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        • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 05, 2008 2:59 pm ET)
             
          Of course he did!  It was implicit in his acting all 'snobbish' and 'uppity' on the podium, couldn't you tell?  Just being a Hollywood celebrity is attacking McCain, who has always hated the Hollywood elite, and has never once associated with them.
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          • Author by my4cents (September 05, 2008 9:07 pm ET)
               

            Assuming a /sarcasm at the end of your post.

             If McCain did not attack Obama, Obama did not attack McCain, period.

            This article by MM is indeed an example of Conservative misinformation.

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      • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (September 05, 2008 3:14 pm ET)
           
        You can't have Palin, Romney and Giuliani take the podium to mock Obama on one day, McCain to ask for bipartisanship on the next day, and then claim that McCain didn't attack Obama.  As the nominee for president, McCain gets to ensure that the other speakers are dissemminating the messages that he wants to convey.
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    • Author by tommy (September 05, 2008 2:06 pm ET)
         
      It is rather a head scratcher that MSNBC, where many of it's prime time lineup openly pushes Obama, would have such different text message polls.  Startling catch by MMFA.
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      • Author by RABBITLUVR (September 05, 2008 2:21 pm ET)
           
        Startling... how?
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        • Author by Lorelei (September 05, 2008 3:30 pm ET)
             

          well its that "liberal" media bias showing, i guess.

          You know the one where the libs get the unfair advantage?????? 

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          • Author by RABBITLUVR (September 05, 2008 5:59 pm ET)
               

            Well, the advantage really isn't all that 'unfair' if one were to apply some real-world thinking here. McSurge looked like he was gonna keel over during that speech and he looked a bit flustered and even irritated when the goon squad cranked up their 'USA! USA! USA!' garbage in response to the 'Ground Noise and Static' (Pat. Pend.). What a yawner that speech was. Sounded more like a farewell address.

            As for Failin' Palin... well, she may have won the hearts and the you-know-whats of those idiots in the hall and the basement-dwellers out there in teevee land but aside from that... yawn as well. A Bushbot wrote that speech so definitely a no-go on the credibility chart for sure. She may wanna consider getting a voice-box transplant though... god, what a HORRIBLE voice she has!

            Overall... a losing ticket nationally. So why should it be a surprise that the nets are rooting for Obama/Biden? After all... isn't America the sort of country that LIKES winners and roots for them?

            Something to think about, ladies and gents...

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            • Author by Lorelei (September 05, 2008 9:25 pm ET)
                 

              apparently I forgot to add my sarcasm icon....

              I'm with ya on the same page. 

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      • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:21 pm ET)
           

        Amazing Tommy, the anchor on MSNBC openly mocks and spews hate toward Republicans , doesnt even appear in St Paul this week , yet MMFA has a problem because of a question on a text poll.

         

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        • Author by tommy (September 05, 2008 2:24 pm ET)
             
          MSNBC has been pumping Obama the way Fox has to McCain, as a result, for me, they cancel each other out and I tune in elsewhere.
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          • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:25 pm ET)
               
            And that leaves us with CNN.
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            • Author by RABBITLUVR (September 05, 2008 2:27 pm ET)
                 
              How about PBS? Oh wait, they don't count either because they really aren't 'independent', right?
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              • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:29 pm ET)
                   
                I am talking about cable Rabbit. 
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                • Author by mary59 (September 05, 2008 3:54 pm ET)
                     

                  The Cable Rabbit channel had some great coverage of the national carrot crop as well as cabbages both green and red.  On the McGregor factor, a controversy erupted about attacks on Peter Rabbit being a radical terrorist intent on destroying America. 

                  the text results were interesting.  80% thought his activities were a result of genetics, 10% from his upbringing, and 10% thought he would not be raptured in Alaska but could be in Idaho.

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                  • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 4:18 pm ET)
                       
                    Wow you are just as much of an idiot as Governor.
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                    • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 4:19 pm ET)
                         
                      Hey, I'm not God!
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                    • Author by neon desert (September 05, 2008 4:29 pm ET)
                         

                      Don't listen to him Mary.  I thought it was great.

                      Sometimes, it's hard for good humor to penetrate the spinning gears and whirling machinery of a BobTheP brain.

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                    • Author by JLyons (September 05, 2008 4:31 pm ET)
                         
                      Bob, Mary and Governor are not idiots, but I think they are trying to be funny and the joke lasted 1 minute if that.
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              • Author by JLyons (September 05, 2008 4:02 pm ET)
                   
                CSPAN Also?
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                • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 4:25 pm ET)
                     
                  CSPAN does provide a great service, it offers unbiased coverage of political events.
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          • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 2:26 pm ET)
               
            So then, there's nothing to see here.  Thanks for stopping by.
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            • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:29 pm ET)
                 
              God you are an idiot.
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              • Author by tommy (September 05, 2008 2:30 pm ET)
                   
                I text "A" for that truth.
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                • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 2:55 pm ET)
                     
                  Tommy, I know that bottle of ‘Instant Incoherency’ medication on your desk states that it’s non-habit forming, but that does not mean it's safe for you to pop the pills like you do when you’re doubling down on 20-piece Chicken McNuggets.
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              • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 2:37 pm ET)
                   
                I'm not the fool talking about cable rabbits.
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                • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 4:18 pm ET)
                     
                  Obviously I was talking to Rabbitluv but you want to defocus , play games. So be it, usually that means you have no substance.
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                  • Author by neon desert (September 05, 2008 4:34 pm ET)
                       

                    I've noticed that rabbit substance looks like cocoa puffs.  But doesn't taste as good.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (September 05, 2008 3:44 pm ET)
             
          Did Tommy change his name to Amzing Tommy? And who's cable rabbit?
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          • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 3:53 pm ET)
               
            Amazing Tommy and Cable Rabbit are the dynamic duo from that far-from- pious Fox sitcom 'God You Are An Idiot'.
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            • Author by neon desert (September 05, 2008 4:44 pm ET)
                 
              I can't believe they got Fred Thompson to play Cable Rabbit.  Not at all what I pictured from reading the book.
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          • Author by mary59 (September 05, 2008 4:04 pm ET)
               
            oops missed your question when I posted about Cable Rabbit.  It's an great new concept.
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    • Author by Governor (September 05, 2008 2:07 pm ET)
         

      Should have had one more option:

      E.  WORKED THE REFS INTO PROVIDING ONLY POSITIVE POLL QUSTIONS

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    • Author by RoberttheP (September 05, 2008 2:25 pm ET)
         

      I guess this is an attack

      Finally, a word to Senator Obama and his supporters. We’ll go at it over the next two months. That’s the nature of these contests, and there are big differences between us. But you have my respect and admiration. Despite our differences, much more unites us than divides us. We are fellow Americans, an association that means more to me than any other. We’re dedicated to the proposition that all people are created equal and endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights. No country ever had a greater cause than that. And I wouldn’t be an American worthy of the name if I didn’t honor Senator Obama and his supporters for their achievement.

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      • Author by Semiauto (September 05, 2008 3:41 pm ET)
           

        That is like people who preface with "I don't want to sound like a jerk... but" and "In all due respect..."

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      • Author by MoonbatYouBet (September 05, 2008 4:31 pm ET)
           

        Directly from his speech here are some of the attacks on Obama that McCain made: 

        "Senator Obama passed another corporate welfare bill for oil companies"

        "I will keep taxes low and cut them where I can. My opponent will raise them. I will open new markets to our goods and services. My opponent will close them. I will cut government spending. He will increase it. "

        "My tax cuts will create jobs. His tax increases will eliminate them. My health care plan will make it easier for more Americans to find and keep good health care insurance. His plan will force small businesses to cut jobs, reduce wages, and force families into a government run health care system where a bureaucrat stands between you and your doctor. "

        "My opponent promises to bring back old jobs by wishing away the global economy. "

        "Senator Obama wants our schools to answer to unions and entrenched bureaucracies. "

        "I'm not running for president because I think I'm blessed with such personal greatness that history has anointed me to save our country in its hour of need."

        Now, to be fair, Obama also made some of the same sort of attacks in his speech.  But to say that McCain didn't is completely dishonest and factually wrong.

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    • Author by thomp.steve9098 (September 05, 2008 2:42 pm ET)
         
      The only thing wrong with msnbc's alternatives is that they should have included an "E" for "all of the above."  The Maverick's speech accomplished all 4 of the criteria set forth . . .  Rather than wallow in gutter politics and incessantly attack his opponent, his speech was uplifting and even complimentary towards Obama.   Characteristic of a true conservative, his speech was "fair and balanced."
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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (September 05, 2008 3:03 pm ET)
           
        I take it you mean "fair and balanced" literally, and not "Fair and Balanced", like the way Fox News uses it?
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      • Author by my4cents (September 05, 2008 9:25 pm ET)
           
        uplifting? When he asked everyone to stand up?
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    • Author by nerzog (September 05, 2008 3:06 pm ET)
         
      E. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... huh? What?
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    • Author by shaggles (September 05, 2008 3:08 pm ET)
         
      Interesting.  There goes the righty belief that MSNBC is the Obama network.
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      • Author by Max Dharma (September 05, 2008 4:00 pm ET)
           
        No, not really. I just think this it was a poorly crafted poll.

        If the poll was designed for comparative purposes (which one would assume to be the case) then the poll should have been constructed from the intersection of the two conventions; that is, the set of communicative elements that is contained in both the RNC and DNC.

        A good example of a questing that intersects both conventions would be: “Did the speech inspire confidence in X’s ability to lead?”

        The poll as constructed by MSNBC has little if any value. I would love to have seen a correctly constructed poll.
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        • Author by neon desert (September 05, 2008 4:56 pm ET)
             

          "No, not really. I just think this it was a poorly crafted poll."

          A poorly crafted poll from an allegedly pro-Obama network neglects to include ANY options for negative reactions to his opponent's speech.

          Drat!  You foiled our insidious plot to do away with McCain by fatal levels of optimism.  We would have gotten away with it too, if it hadn't been for you meddling kids.  Which, by the way, wouldn't even be here if not for the failure of our insidious plot to force abortions by inducing stress caused miscarriages.

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    • Author by shaggles (September 05, 2008 3:36 pm ET)
         
      Actually I was just looking at that graphic again.  Although the Obama grapich shows option C: Attacked John McCain below that it says only Text A or B to 622639.  Weird.  Did they just want to sneak in a message or what?
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    • Author by Lorelei (September 05, 2008 3:43 pm ET)
         

      Now THAT's a good catch, shag.

       

      and a funny one. 

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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (September 05, 2008 3:51 pm ET)
         
      Be on the look-out for more and more right-wing shills and operatives posting at MM.
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      • Author by Lorelei (September 05, 2008 4:02 pm ET)
           

        Come on Don, you have to admit, that was a good catch, lol.

        And if you read any of my post you will know that I am no right winger. 

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (September 05, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
         

      Don't think he was directing teh post at you Lorelei.

      We do have some new names popping up with a trollish miasma about them. There'll be an increase in the troll population of the MMfa comments section. Sounds like a good bet to me.

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      • Author by Lorelei (September 05, 2008 9:32 pm ET)
           

        Thanks.

        I know there will be an increase always is when they feel they are being "attacked".  

         

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    • Author by oscar the grouch (September 05, 2008 7:36 pm ET)
         
      Wow, is the graphic at the beginning (Morning Joe) really correct? Looks like the texter was only allowed 2 choices ( A or B ), both positive.
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    • Author by mefirst (September 05, 2008 9:26 pm ET)
         
      isn't it odd that certain posters just seem to go together, like milk and cookies? 
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    • Author by mikerhyner8202 (September 06, 2008 12:09 am ET)
         
      Yep, the network home of Olbermann is biased against Dems
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    • Author by eweston8542983 (September 06, 2008 11:24 pm ET)
         
      You forgot or arn't aware of Ms. Maddow gitting a gig there. Versis how many of a conservative bent? Obermann isn't always accepted as progressive anyway.
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