Liddy guest Walid Shoebat falsely claimed that Obama is "definitely a Muslim"

On the September 10 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, G. Gordon Liddy hosted self-described former terrorist Walid Shoebat to advance the false claim that Sen. Barack Obama, whom Shoebat said would be "extremely dangerous" as president, is a Muslim. Liddy also did not challenge Shoebat's false claim that Hamas supports Obama.

During the interview, Liddy asked Shoebat: "Obama was in a -- in Indonesia, in a public school and in a Catholic school. And in the Catholic school, he was listed as a Muslim. And he was over in Indonesia, which is a Muslim country, until the age of 10. How much of that Muslim indoctrination would carry over?" Shoebat speculated that Obama was subject to extreme teachings at the "government school" he attended in Indonesia and later claimed: "You can see -- even speeches of Barack Hussein Obama saying that Arab-American families that's rounded up, he would help them. He's talking about the same kind of issues that CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, would want to fight for, and that is fighting for the terrorist cause." He also said: "No one is called Hussein unless he is Muslim. So it is very clear that Barack Hussein Obama is definitely a Muslim." Shoebat also said: "In Islam, in the law of Sharia of Islam, the Prophet of Islam said ... whoever leaves the Islamic faith is to be killed. So what part of killing people don't understand? He is not called to be killed by the Muslims. Why do they support him? I haven't heard a really serious testimony of his Christian conversion. A Muslim who converts to Christianity, the first thing he does is denounces Islam. Has Barack Hussein Obama denounced Islam as a false religion?" Liddy responded: "No."

Shoebat also claimed, without challenge from Liddy: "So, you can see from Al Qaeda to the Muslim Brotherhood to Hamas, every single Muslim terrorist organization supports Barack Hussein Obama. So why would Americans want to have a president that is connected to Islam and that is proud to be Muslim?" Shoebat cited no evidence that Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood support Obama. Regarding Hamas, as Media Matters for America has noted, while Ahmed Yousef, chief political adviser to the prime minister of Hamas, reportedly said in an April 13 interview with conservative radio host John Batchelor and WorldNetDaily.com Jerusalem bureau chief Aaron Klein that he liked Obama and hoped he would win the election, a Hamas official responded to Obama's June 4 speech to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee by saying, according to Reuters, "Hamas does not differentiate between the two presidential candidates, Obama and [Sen. John] McCain, because their policies regarding the Arab-Israel conflict are the same and are hostile to us, therefore we do have no preference and are not wishing for either of them to win."

Later, Liddy asked Shoebat: "Would you consider Barack Hussein Obama dangerous if he were commander in chief of the -- all the power and might of the armed forces of the United States?" Shoebat replied: "He would be extremely dangerous. He would -- he's already calling for dismantlement of nuclear weapons. He's already calling for negotiations with Islamists. He's already calling to help Arabs who are arrested in America. He's already professed to hold hands with the Muslims, and wanting to hold hands with the Muslims in his book. In his book, it's very clear."

According to his website, Shoebat has appeared several times on radio and television, including on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes and The O'Reilly Factor and CNN Headline News' Glenn Beck.

From the September 10 broadcast of Radio America's The G. Gordon Liddy Show:

LIDDY: Walid, will you take a moment to tell us your life story, in a nutshell?

SHOEBAT: In a nutshell, my life story is similar to Barack Hussein Obama, because I have an American mother, married a Palestinian father. Went to the Middle East, she wasn't allowed to leave for 35 years. And from my father's perspective, you know, his father was friends with Haj Amin al-Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem, who collaborated with Hitler to destroy the Jews. And my mother's side, her grandfather was friends with Winston Churchill, who wanted to destroy Nazism. So, I lived both worlds of the Christian and Muslim as well. I went to Christian schools in the Middle East, I went to similar schools that Barack Hussein Obama went to, I understand the Muslim mindset, and I grew up pro-Islamic. Came to the States, was inculcated in the system of the Muslim Brotherhood in America. Was underground in Chicago, same even city as Barack Hussein Obama. And you can see on my website, Shoebat.com, S-H-O-E-B-A-T.com. At the bottom of the website, you can see the kind of activities we were doing in Chicago. Islamic activities, pro-Hamas -- even before Hamas. You know, you can see the violence and the attempted change in America to make it pro-Islamic and pro-Sharia.

LIDDY: Shoebat, Obama was in a -- in Indonesia, in a public school and in a Catholic school. And in the Catholic school, he was listed as a Muslim.

SHOEBAT: That's right.

LIDDY: And he was over in Indonesia, which is a Muslim country, until the age of 10. How much of that Muslim indoctrination would carry over?

SHOEBAT: Well, when I went to a government school -- you know, it wasn't a madrassa. He was not in a madrassa school, but it was a government school. And in those schools, from fifth grade, we learned what is called Islamic eschatology, that the day of judgment will not come to pass until the tribes of Islam destroy the tribes of Israel, the Jewish people. And then the trees and the stones will cry out: There is a Jew hiding behind me. We would learn Islamic eschatology. We would learn that it's an honor for a Muslim to die as a martyr, to shed his blood for the cause of Allah. We would learn that the establishment of Sharia law is a mandate. We would learn that fighting jihad is a mandate against Israel, against the West, and those kinds of things. This is even in a government school, not even in a madrassa, as most Westerners --

LIDDY: Well, would he have achieved -- been exposed to those things at the age of 10, in a government school over there in Indonesia?

SHOEBAT: Yes. It would be the same thing, it would be exactly the same kind of an education system. Barack Hussein Obama's connection is very clear. He rallied for his cousin Odinga in Kenya, in which Odinga wanted to establish Islamic-compliant Sharia law in Kenya. So, you know, even his Christian connection with Pastor Wright, who collaborated with Louis Farrakhan of the Nation of Islam in 1993 to visit Muammar Qaddafi in Libya. Odinga called for change, similar to the change of Barack Hussein Obama. You can see -- even speeches of Barack Hussein Obama saying that Arab-American families that's rounded up, he would help them. He's talking about the same kind of issues that CAIR, Council on American-Islamic Relations, would want to fight for, and that is fighting for the terrorist cause. Every single terror organization in the world -- Islamic terror organization in the world supports Barack Hussein Obama. His name is Barack Hussein Obama. Hussein is one of the prophet's names. Muhammad the prophet -- some of his names are Mustafa, Muhammad, Ahmad, Hassan, Hussein -- all of these are Islamic names portraying Muhammad, to be proud Muslims. His grandchildren are Hassan and Hussein. This is all Islamic names. No one is called Hussein unless he is Muslim. So it is very clear that Barack Hussein Obama is definitely a Muslim.

His Christian convert -- I converted to Christianity. Where is the Christianity of Barack Hussein Obama? This is what he adheres to in his Christian theology is the same Christian theology that the Christian terrorists in the Palestinian areas adhere to. You have the PFLP, Popular Front to Liberate Palestine, led by George Habash, a Christian, supposedly. And they adhere to what is called the liberation theology, as Pastor Wright adheres to. That kind of theology is very close to Islamic theology, in which it calls for jihad and the same kind of thing. So, you could see from his Christian claim that, you know, being connected to Pastor Wright, that it's not Christianity whatsoever. In Islam, in the law of Sharia of Islam, the Prophet of Islam said [speaking Arabic] whoever leaves the Islamic faith is to be killed. So what part of killing people don't understand? He is not called to be killed by the Muslims. Why do they support him? I haven't heard a really serious testimony of his Christian conversion. A Muslim who converts to Christianity, the first thing he does is denounces Islam. Has Barack Hussein Obama denounced Islam as a false religion?

LIDDY: No.

SHOEBAT: Because that's what every single convert to Christianity from Islam must and does do. Why am I being called to be killed by the Muslims and Barack Hussein Obama to survive? So, you can see from Al Qaeda to the Muslim Brotherhood to Hamas, every single Muslim terrorist organization supports Barack Hussein Obama. So why would Americans want to have a president that is connected to Islam and that is proud to be Muslim? If he had converted to Christianity, he would change his name Hussein to something else. He would change his name Barack to something else. And maybe he would bury his old name that he used, you know, when he was a kid.

LIDDY: Yeah. Let me ask you, Mr. Shoebat. Would you consider Barack Hussein Obama dangerous if he were commander in chief of the -- all the power and might of the armed forces of the United States?

SHOEBAT: He would be extremely dangerous. He would -- he's already calling for dismantlement of nuclear weapons. He's already calling for negotiations with Islamists. He's already calling to help Arabs who are arrested in America. He's already professed to hold hands with the Muslims, and wanting to hold hands with the Muslims in his book. In his book, it's very clear. He mentioned that. He'd rather hold hands with the Muslims. So it is clear from his activities and his name and his connections to Rezko and Arafi with financial connections and all kinds of friendships with his cousin Odinga in Kenya, who is pro-Islamic Sharia, who wants to establish Sharia law -- let's not forget, also, over a thousand Christians were killed in Kenya. Burned. So where is Mr. Obama's denunciations of those things?

LIDDY: Mr. Shoebat, we need to take a quick pause for the benefit of our advertisers.