Liddy, Corsi again repeated discredited claim that Obama has not produced birth certificate establishing his U.S. citizenship
SUMMARY: On his radio show, G. Gordon Liddy and his guest, Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi, each repeated the discredited claim that Sen. Barack Obama has not produced a birth certificate establishing his U.S. citizenship. In fact, FactCheck.org reported that the Obama campaign provided its staff with Obama's original birth certificate and concluded that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship," and even WorldNetDaily.com, the right-wing website for which Corsi works as a staff reporter, has reported that a "WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic."
On the September 17 edition of The G. Gordon Liddy Show, Liddy and Obama Nation author Jerome Corsi each repeated the discredited claim that Sen. Barack Obama has not released an authentic birth certificate establishing that he was born in the United States, and therefore could be ineligible to run for president. In fact, in addition to posting a copy of Obama's birth certificate on the campaign website, the Obama campaign reportedly provided the original document to FactCheck.org, whose staff reported in an August 21 article that they "have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate" and concluded that it "meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship." Indeed, even WorldNetDaily.com, the right-wing website for which Corsi works as a staff reporter, reported in an August 23 article that a "WND investigation into Obama's birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic," as Media Matters for America has documented.
During the September 17 discussion, Liddy stated: "Now, the Daily Kos, which is a blog, a leftist blog, published a certificate of live birth -- purportedly from Hawaii. Giving a date but having the serial number redacted, blocked out. And, from what we're told, heavily Photoshopped. ... It's not a birth certificate. It's something that is issued after there has been a birth -- and supposedly attests to the fact that, well, yes, there was a birth in the past and it was on such and such a day, but it's not a birth certificate such as you and I have." Corsi agreed, stating: "It's a registry of birth. It's -- you know, you come into the office afterwards, and you register the birth. The birth certificate is issued by the hospital. It's not something you go in and request." Corsi then said that a pending lawsuit alleging that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen "would seem to be -- to have some credibility to it, because the Obama campaign refuses to release the original birth certificate." Liddy and Corsi then agreed that Obama should "release" his birth certificate to settle the matter.
Liddy and Corsi have each previously claimed that Obama has not produced a birth certificate, as Media Matters has documented. On his September 15 broadcast, Liddy said: "[T]here's others who say [Obama] was born, you know, in Kenya. And I don't have a birth certificate from Kenya to show that he was, but neither does he have a birth certificate to show that he was born in Hawaii, either." Additionally, on the August 26 broadcast of his show, Liddy asserted: "[W]e still don't have a birth certificate for Obama. There are claims that he was actually born in Kenya." In an August 15 appearance on Fox News' Fox & Friends, Corsi claimed: "The [Obama] campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website. ... The original birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it."
From the September 17 broadcast of Radio America's The G. Gordon Liddy Show:
LIDDY: I'd like to talk about the, you know, the business of his birth.
CORSI: Yes.
LIDDY: Now, the Daily Kos, which is a blog, a leftist blog, published a certificate of live birth --
CORSI: Right.
LIDDY: -- purportedly from Hawaii.
CORSI: Right.
LIDDY: Giving a date but having the serial number redacted, blocked out.
CORSI: Exactly.
LIDDY: And, from what we're told, heavily Photoshopped. Can you go into that? It's not a birth certificate. It's something that is issued after there has been a birth --
CORSI: That's right.
LIDDY: -- and supposedly attests to the fact that, well, yes, there was a birth in the past, and it was on such and such a day, but it's not a birth certificate --
CORSI: Right.
LIDDY: -- such as you and I have.
CORSI: It's a registry of birth. It's -- you know, you come into the office afterwards, and you register the birth. The birth certificate is issued by the hospital. It's not something you go in and request. And the -- this lawsuit that [Philip] Berg has filed in, I believe, Pennsylvania --
LIDDY: It is Pennsylvania, yes.
CORSI: -- is arguing that the original, the birth certificate, is in Kenya, and Obama -- Obama's father and mother went back to Kenya before Obama was born, and evidently the pregnancy was so advanced that Ann Dunham was not allowed to return to the United States, and Obama was born in Kenya. That's the argument. And it would seem to be -- to have some credibility to it, because the Obama campaign refuses to release the original birth certificate. And why would that -- a birth certificate, you know, Mr. Liddy, should be a mundane document.
LIDDY: Yeah. It is. I mean, I've got mine, you've got yours, and everybody I know -- and, you know, Snopes and people like that are all saying, "Oh, no, no, no, he was born in Hawaii." Well, if he was, and they have the thing, why don't they --
CORSI: Just release it.
LIDDY: -- produce that? Release it.
CORSI: Release it. It would solve the issue.
LIDDY: It would indeed.
CORSI: Like so many of these issues, as I have pointed out continuously, Obama does not release important details about his life.
LIDDY: Same way John Kerry wouldn't release his military records.
CORSI: He never signed a Standard Form 180 for a full public disclosure. John Kerry, finally, after the election, signed the Standard Form 180, but only for The Boston Globe or one or two other favorable newspaper reporters.
Liddy and Corsi sitting in a tree
Kissing
First Comes love, than comes marriage than comes Liddy and Corsi with more hate .
Two peas in a pod, and worthless.
So what's Liddy's point?
Actually that's not true. To be President, you must be a native-born citizen. That's different than being a citizen. There's some question as to whether or not McCain meets the qualifications as a native-born citizen even since he was born in the Canal Zone.
If Obama was born in Kenya, he's not qualified to be President.
Of course, he wasn't born there. The birth document in Hawaii is different if you get it anytime after birth. That's the issue that Liddy and Corsi are making here - the replacement copy looks different, and they're trying to claim that nothing but the original will do, and that's crazy. The copy that Obama gave to Factcheck.org would work for a Passport. It's good enough.
People born abroad to US citizens have run for the presidency in the past. Goldwater was born in an american territory (Arizona) which became a state after he was born. George Romney was born in Mexico, yet ran for the presidency.
The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1790,95,98 gave US citizenship to children of Americans born overseas and the State Department is of the opinion that these children would be eligible for the presidency.
It has never been decided by the courts, but it looks as if it could be acceptable.
Being born in a US territory that later became a state is different than being born in a foreign country.
And the 1790 law you mention was ruled unconstitutional, so it doesn't help determine an answer in this case.
Again, there's a difference between being a citizen and being a natural-born citizen.
And, btw, I don't subscribe to the notion that McCain is not okay to run for President, but I do subscribe to the idea that if Obama were truly born to a US citizen and a Kenyan citizen (British subject) in Kenya, that he would not be a natural born citizen of the USA. There's never been a firm determination of that issue, so the US Supreme Court could make a different determination than mine, but no determination has been made, and so that's why Liddy and Corsi are fighting so hard to prove that Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii.
From the factcheck.org article:
"Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A."
The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.
And here's the proof:
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That is clearly a forgery assembled by socialist Mexican immigrants who are homosexual Muslims, and are working for the MSM.
There might be thousands of web sites that claim to be or not to be knowing of the truth.
If there is any question as to these and other legal documents that need to be scrutinized as to there legitimacy - then both candidates need to supply them before the process of voting.
If either candidate has nothing to hide - then there should be no problem with public and legal viewing of these documents before one is elected to serve as Commander and Chief of this country.
These idiots are really running out of material.
Didn't Liddy's 15 minutes of fame run out in 1973?
But alas, when you cannot argue effectively on the facts, Liddy and Corsi, Just make up something.