Time's Carney claimed new McCain ad -- which contains falsehoods -- is "[l]egitimate" and "entirely within bounds"
SUMMARY: In a Swampland blog post headlined "McCain's Legitimate Attack," Jay Carney wrote that unlike previous McCain campaign ads that included "false and distorted assaults" on Sen. Barack Obama, McCain's "new ad ... attacking Obama 'and his liberal allies' for failing to lead in the midst of the current financial markets crisis" is "entirely within bounds." In fact, the new McCain ad contains falsehoods about Obama's response to the current economic situation and his tax proposals.
In a September 23 post on Time.com's Swampland blog headlined "McCain's Legitimate Attack," Time Washington bureau chief Jay Carney wrote that "what's important" about Sen. John McCain's "new ad ... attacking [Sen. Barack] Obama 'and his liberal allies' for failing to lead in the midst of the current financial markets crisis" is that the ad is "entirely within bounds." Carney continued: "As I and others have said in criticizing some of the McCain campaign's false or distorted assaults on Obama, there are plenty of potential Obama weaknesses that McCain can fairly and legitimately try to exploit." In fact, contrary to Carney's suggestion that the new McCain ad does not contain distortions or falsehoods, it does, falsely claiming that Democrats have sat by silently in response to the current financial situation and falsely suggesting that Obama intends to raise taxes on American families in general.
"Obama and his liberal allies" have been "[m]um on the market crisis"
The new McCain ad -- which was released on September 23 -- claims that "Obama and his liberal allies" have been "[m]um on the market crisis," citing a September 20 Washington Times article headlined "Obama mum on market crisis." But Obama's campaign released a "Statement of Principles for the Treasury Proposal" on September 21, in which Obama said of Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson's draft proposal for a bailout plan: "Even if the Treasury recovers some or most of its investment over time, this initial outlay of up to $700 billion is sobering. And in return for their support, the American people must be assured that the deal reflects some basic principles."
And Obama's Democratic colleagues on Capitol Hill, Sen. Christopher Dodd (CT), chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, and Rep. Barney Frank (MA), chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, each produced legislative proposals on September 22 to address the "market crisis."
"More taxes. No leadership. A risk your family can't afford."
The ad also juxtaposes a picture of Obama with the narrator saying, "More taxes. No leadership. A risk your family can't afford." In fact, Obama has proposed cutting taxes for low- and middle-income families and raising taxes only on households earning more than $250,000 per year. Indeed, McCain's own chief economic adviser, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, has reportedly said it is inaccurate to say that "Barack Obama raises taxes." In addition, the Tax Policy Center concluded in its analysis of Obama's and McCain's tax proposals that "Obama would give larger tax cuts to low- and moderate-income households and pay some of the cost by raising taxes on high-income taxpayers. In contrast, McCain would cut taxes across the board and give the biggest cuts to the highest-income households."
From Carney's post:
McCain has a new ad (see below) attacking Obama "and his liberal allies" for failing to lead in the midst of the current financial markets crisis. As many have noted, including George Will and the Wall Street Journal, McCain's own handling of the crisis has hardly been a profile in leadership. But what's important about this ad is not its claims about McCain but its line of attack on Obama. Why? Because it's entirely within bounds. As I and others have said in criticizing some of the McCain campaign's false or distorted assaults on Obama, there are plenty of potential Obama weaknesses that McCain can fairly and legitimately try to exploit.
- First and foremost, of course, is experience. McCain has more, Obama has relatively little. Whether that matters to you as a voter, or whether you think McCain's experience has been good or bad for the country, the fact is that it's fair for McCain to criticize Obama's lack of it.
- Second, it is irrefutably true that Obama hails from the solidly liberal tradition within the Democratic Party. He speaks eloquently about transcending partisanship, but his record of doing so -- both in Illinois and in Washington -- is fairly limited. And most of his policy proposals can be described as liberal or progressive. And so it is certainly fair for McCain to say that if Obama wins, "liberals" will be in charge of the House, Senate and the White House. I am not saying that would be bad or good for the country, or that such an attack would persuade swing voters in this cycle. But I am saying that it is entirely fair for McCain to attack Obama on this front -- i.e., to go back to the old GOP well and warn about scary liberals and big government.
The point is that there are stark substantive differences between these two candidates. Sticking to those differences as they launch their attacks is the honorable way to campaign.















Unfortunately, "the people," in our role scripted by the press, have decided that falsehoods in an attack are legitimate and within bounds. After all, both campaigns have gone negative, right?
Well, IMHO, there's a big difference between going "negative" and spreading outright falsehoods...as the McCain campaign has consistently done.
Yeah. I was actually trying to refer to Friday's Media Matters when I said that.
I have noticed a bizzare pattern in the McCain campaign. Obama's campaign theme is "change" then McCain's campaign is "change", and he says Obama is not about change.
Basically Obama says the sky is blue....hours later, McCain's speech to the crowd says the sky is blue......and that Obama sadly doesn't know the sky is blue.
Not only does he parrot every theme or point Obama uses at his rallies, he also accuses Obama of either never discussing it or being apposed to it, ....unlike him of course.
Obama has been running an ad in Ohio in support of stem cell research, and now we have very similar McCain's radio ads about stem cell research....which says both he and Palin..the Maverick team...supports. (and yet she's aposed to stem cell research)
It reads like a Carl Rove playbook doesn't it?
(type-0 "apposed")
BTW....wasn't this one reason people were suspicious about McCain listening to Obama's answers at the Saddleback forum....it seemed that McCain's answers were a bit too close to many of Obama's?
The debate will be interesting.........
Gray, when you have nothing to run on you co-opt the other fellow's ideas and claim them as your own. I honestly think people are beginning to see McCain for the fraud he is.
Exactly...he has nothing to run on. I find the mimicing creepy....like those stalking movies where someone is so envious they dress like the other person, join the same circle of friends, go to the same Dr. buy the same car, dine at the same restaurant, shop at the same stores, buy the same breed dog......
The problem is, I'm not sure the McCain followers have a clue that McCain is doing this. In his speech today, he again claimed that Obama has done nothing to address the financial crisis, and his crowd cheered and clapped....and it's the same each day in the newspaper in the letters to the editor. The letter writers act like the only one capable of the presidency is McCain because he is the only one taling about the issues. They listen to McCain, and nothing else.
graydogs is right on. Take a war HERO like Kerry, who VOLUNTEERED and turn his service into something unpatriotic; take the Vietnam War comparison to Iraq, and suddenly spin it into YES, ITS JUST LIKE VIETNAM, and LOOK AT POL POT!
Now they're REFORM; now they're CHANGE. It's definitely an old spin. The good news is I think AMERICA is ON TO THIS NOW.
It's interesting that he finds the ad notable because he says McCain is not lying this time. I guess that would be notable if it were true. But the media seem to find all of McCain's ads notable lately. I haven't seen too many Obama ads replayed on news and talk shows (free) and discussed ad naseum.
It's interesting that he finds the ad notable because he says McCain is not lying this time.
Big deal. Jerome Corsi claims that HE isn't lying, either - and Corsi does NOTHING but lie...
Yeah, but if Corsi said he was lying...he'd then be telling the truth. This would be a logical paradox that would collapse the universe.
Rest assured, it's better for us all for Corsi to keep on lying.
And I have noted on MSNBC that they have been playing McCain live, and in full, at his rallies, day after day, and hardly anything from Obama.
Yesterday, they said they would go live to Obama, and he got outpart of a word when they went right to commercials, and then they covered only part of his speech, and came back to criticise him..... and when they cut from McCain;s speeches they praise his message.
Of course we all know, that Sarah Palin has gotten non-stop coverage, and what have we seen from Joe Biden?
Yes, Sarah Palin has soaked up a very large amount of press. But ultimately, her shallowness starts to bore a press that needs to publish new and different words to attract readership. Have you noticed that Palin's snow angel is starting to melt?
It's been noticed by the Los Angeles Times: http://www.latimes.com/news/la-na-biden23-2008sep23,0,6739607.story?track=ntothtml
Media companies that maintain blogs and encourage their employees to use them have an obligation to make sure the information presented is as factual as possible - or if it's one person's opinion (and this sure looks like it's just Jay Carney's opinion), it should be labeled as such.
Speaking of leading during this crisis... oopsy!
Bush Mouthpiece Admits: They’ve Been Sitting on this Plan
By: emptywheel Tuesday September 23, 2008 8:57 am 57diggs
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Hidden in an article reporting that Cheney's going to go hunt up some support for the $700,000,000,000 bailout is this admission that the Bush Administration has been sitting on it for some time:
Which raises three questions for me:
A) First, as we'll discuss today in the book salon on Woodward's War Within, the Bush Administration refused to admit Iraq was FUBAR even while, for seven months, they were drumming up a new strategy because it was FUBAR. They did so because they didn't want to affect the mid-term elections. So has the Bush Administration been formulating a plan to bail out their buddies, in secret, because they didn't want to let the voters know how badly they had f*&ked up the American economy before November?
B) And if that is true, how much worse has the economy gotten--and how much more expensive will the bailout be--because the Bushies were trying to hide yet another colossal Republican failure?
C) Or, did they simply not tell us about their f*&k-up so they could spring the $700,000,000,000 surprise on us on a Friday and demand results by Monday? The Shock Doctrine at work!
Though, I guess "A" and "C" are not necessarily either/or propositions.
Hidden in an article reporting that Cheney's going to go hunt up some support ...
And we all know what happened the LAST time Cheney went hunting. Just ask his old pal Harry Whittington.....
And, of course, we all know how successful Cheney was in hunting for WMD in Iraq...
Carney says "And so it is certainly fair for McCain to say that if Obama wins, "liberals" will be in charge of the House, Senate and the White House." The only reason Obama appears liberal is that the current administration is so far to the right that Attilla the Hun would not be considered for secretary of war, I mean defense. Truly progressive liberals are not to be seen on the national stage now. Consider that Amy Goodman was arrested while reporting on a protest in MN. Imagine the hair pulling and hand wrenching if Hannity had been arrested in Denver. Amy Goodman is one of a handfull of progressive journalists known nationally, and yet her arrest does not cause a single ripple in the MSM pond.
My only question is if a bailout bill is passed and Bush doesn't like it, why won't he just use a "signing statement" option to rewrite the bill his own way. He has done this in the past and Congress complained but failed to act. Why not now?
McCain is a liar who lies a lot.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/w24davis.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
He's a lying liar...who lies a lot.
that was OT and not meant as a reply.
There is a BIG difference between negative ads (I approve) and false ads(which should be called for what they are.)
Carney has an interesting spin on things