Why is the NY Times continuing to ignore McCain's "own Bill Ayers"?
SUMMARY: On October 4, The New York Times published a front-page article about Sen. Barack Obama's association with William Ayers -- at least the 18th Times article this year mentioning that association. But the Times has yet to mention Sen. John McCain's relationship with G. Gordon Liddy. The October 4 article quoted Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman denouncing Obama's association with Ayers but did not note that Chapman has described Liddy as McCain's "own Bill Ayers" and written that "[i]f Obama needs to answer questions about Ayers, McCain has the same obligation regarding Liddy."
On October 4, The New York Times published a 2,140-word front-page article about Sen. Barack Obama's association with former Weather Underground member William Ayers -- at least the 18th Times article this year mentioning that association. But the Times has yet to mention, let alone devote an entire article to, Sen. John McCain's relationship with radio host and convicted Watergate burglar G. Gordon Liddy. Indeed, in its October 4 article, the Times quoted Chicago Tribune columnist Steve Chapman denouncing Obama's association with Ayers but did not note that Chapman has described Liddy as McCain's "own Bill Ayers" and has written that "[i]f Obama needs to answer questions about Ayers, McCain has the same obligation regarding Liddy." The Times, moreover, quoted McCain criticizing Obama for his association with Ayers without noting that Chapman has faulted McCain for what Chapman described as McCain's "howling hypocrisy on the subject."
As Media Matters for America has noted, Liddy served four and a half years in prison in connection with his conviction for his role in the Watergate break-in and the break-in at the office of the psychiatrist of Daniel Ellsberg, the military analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers. Liddy has acknowledged preparing to kill someone during the Ellsberg break-in "if necessary"; plotting to murder journalist Jack Anderson; plotting with a "gangland figure" to murder Howard Hunt to stop him from cooperating with investigators; plotting to firebomb the Brookings Institution; and plotting to kidnap "leftist guerillas" at the 1972 Republican National Convention -- a plan he outlined to the Nixon administration using terminology borrowed from the Nazis. (The murder, firebombing, and kidnapping plots were never carried out; the break-ins were.) During the 1990s, Liddy reportedly instructed his radio audience on multiple occasions on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents and also reportedly said he had named his shooting targets after Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Liddy has donated $5,000 to McCain's campaigns since 1998, including $1,000 in February 2008. In addition, McCain has appeared on Liddy's radio show during the presidential campaign, including as recently as May. An online video labeled "John McCain On The G. Gordon Liddy Show 11/8/07" includes a discussion between Liddy and McCain, whom Liddy described as an "old friend." During the segment, McCain praised Liddy's "adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great," said he was "proud" of Liddy, and said that "it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program."
Additionally, in 1998, Liddy reportedly held a fundraiser at his home for McCain. Liddy was reportedly scheduled to speak at another fundraiser for McCain in 2000. The Charlotte Observer reported on January 23, 2000, that McCain's campaign vouched for Liddy's "character":
His [McCain's] campaign officials said Liddy's character will appeal to many voters because he was following orders from President Nixon and kept silent afterward.
"His (Liddy's) judgment might be in question, but I don't think his character is," said Ed Walker, the York County chairman of McCain's campaign. "He was following orders just like any good soldier, and he didn't tell on anybody. He felt like he was on a mission and kept his silence."
Liddy's 2000 speech was reportedly canceled due to bad weather.
Media Matters has documented that as of September 19, the Times had published 15 news articles and four opinion pieces referencing Obama's ties to Ayers. Since then, in addition to the October 4 article, the Times has published two more articles mentioning the association.
But despite having apparently judged Chapman's opinions on the candidates' controversial associations as being newsworthy, the Times has ignored entirely McCain's relationship with Liddy, according to a search of the Nexis database from January 1 through October 4*.
In his May 4 Tribune column, Chapman wrote:
What McCain didn't mention is that he has his own Bill Ayers -- in the form of G. Gordon Liddy. Now a conservative radio talk-show host, Liddy spent more than 4 years in prison for his role in the 1972 Watergate burglary. That was just one element of what Liddy did, and proposed to do, in a secret White House effort to subvert the Constitution. Far from repudiating him, McCain has embraced him.
How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy's home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns -- including $1,000 this year.
Last November, McCain went on his radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed. "It's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon, and congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great."
Which principles would those be? The ones that told Liddy it was fine to break into the office of the Democratic National Committee to plant bugs and photograph documents? The ones that made him propose to kidnap anti-war activists so they couldn't disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention? The ones that inspired him to plan the murder (never carried out) of an unfriendly newspaper columnist?
Liddy was in the thick of the biggest political scandal in American history -- and one of the greatest threats to the rule of law. He has said he has no regrets about what he did, insisting that he went to jail as "a prisoner of war."
All this may sound like ancient history. But it's from the same era as the bombings Ayers helped carry out as a member of the Weather Underground. And Liddy's penchant for extreme solutions has not abated.
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Given Liddy's record, it's hard to see why McCain would touch him with a 10-foot pole. On the contrary, he should be returning his donations and shunning his show. Yet the senator shows no qualms about associating with Liddy -- or celebrating his service to their common cause.
How does McCain explain his howling hypocrisy on the subject? He doesn't. I made repeated inquiries to his campaign aides, which they refused to acknowledge, much less answer. On this topic, the pilot of the Straight Talk Express would rather stay parked in the garage.
That's an odd policy for someone who is so forthright about his rival's responsibility. McCain thinks Obama should apologize for associating with a criminal extremist. To which Obama might reply: After you.
And in an August 22 blog post about an anti-Obama ad highlighting Obama's association with Ayers, Chapman wrote:
But conservatives may not want to draw attention to the issue of ties to violent radicals -- since John McCain is longtime pals with convicted Watergate burglar Gordon Liddy, who once plotted a journalist's murder (which was never carried out) and has advocated the shooting of federal law enforcement agents.
If Obama needs to answer questions about Ayers, McCain has the same obligation regarding Liddy. How about they both get started?
From The New York Times' October 4 article "Obama and '60s Bomber: A Look Into Crossed Paths":
Their relationship has become a touchstone for opponents of Mr. Obama, the Democratic senator, in his bid for the presidency. Video clips on YouTube, including a new advertisement that was broadcast on Friday, juxtapose Mr. Obama's face with the young Mr. Ayers or grainy shots of the bombings.
In a televised interview last spring, Senator John McCain, Mr. Obama's Republican rival, asked, "How can you countenance someone who was engaged in bombings that could have or did kill innocent people?"
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Since earning a doctorate in education at Columbia in 1987, Mr. Ayers has been a professor of education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, the author or editor of 15 books, and an advocate of school reform.
"He's done a lot of good in this city and nationally," Mayor Richard M. Daley said in an interview this week, explaining that he has long consulted Mr. Ayers on school issues. Mr. Daley, whose father was Chicago's mayor during the street violence accompanying the 1968 Democratic National Convention and the so-called Days of Rage the following year, said he saw the bombings of that time in the context of a polarized and turbulent era.
"This is 2008," Mr. Daley said. "People make mistakes. You judge a person by his whole life."
That attitude is widely shared in Chicago, but it is not universal. Steve Chapman, a columnist for The Chicago Tribune, defended Mr. Obama's relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., his longtime pastor, whose black liberation theology and "God damn America" sermon became notorious last spring. But he denounced Mr. Obama for associating with Mr. Ayers, whom he said the University of Illinois should never have hired.
"I don't think there's a statute of limitations on terrorist bombings," Mr. Chapman said in an interview, speaking not of the law but of political and moral implications.
"If you're in public life, you ought to say, 'I don't want to be associated with this guy,' " Mr. Chapman said. "If John McCain had a long association with a guy who'd bombed abortion clinics, I don't think people would say, 'That's ancient history.' "















OT, but I knew it was only a matter of time...
What I think you people are missing here is that McCain's relationship with Liddy is acceptable because McCain is a former POW. By contrast, Obama's lack of military heroism leaves him open to all sorts of unrelated criticism, including things that seem directly comparable to situations McCain would find himself in, if he weren't a maverick. Also don't forget that McCain is a straight talker.
We don't know if " military heroism ' is a necessary trait to lead this nation. As a matter of fact the governance of this nation is set up to be run by civilians, not military personnel, lest it be called military dictatorship. Mr Liddy is a proven felon with a criminal history of a despicable form of home grown terrorrism. And he is now a FOX News contributor, which somehow misteriously lends credence to some form of patritism. Somehow linking Liddy's time in jail and McCain's time in a N Vietnames prison is a slap in the face of McCain.
Military heroism isn't a necessary trait to lead this nation -- it's a necessary trait to avoid criticism by the press (unless you're a Democrat). Being a maverick and a straight talker don't hurt either. BTW, did you know Senator McCain has been to Waziristan, and looked into Putin's eyes?
SNOOPY. In the event that you're not being fasicious (sp?), I don't necessarily believe McCain's relationship with Liddy means that he thinks everything that Liddy did was okay. But, military service does not give anyone a free pass on anything. If anything, that service should put that person under an additional expectation to be truthful, patriotic, law-abiding, and understanding of the human condition. You must admit, though, that if McCain is willing to take the low road, he should have to answer for his own so-called 'associations.' Don't forget that he was invited to the birthday party of an organized crime guy this year. Now, that's what I call 'palling around.'
Id MM really trying to equate Gordon Liddy and William Ayers?
They've got to be kidding.
Liddy did NOT bomb the Pentagon and other government buildings.
And for MM to imply that the NY Times is anti-Obama is downright laughable.
Many of the "mentions" that MM cites are only passing references that downplay or dismiss the Obama-Ayers association!
So are we to assume that you condone Liddy's actions? He was convicted. Ayers wasn't. Do you even know what Liddy did?
historygeek001: "So are we to assume that you condone Liddy's actions?"
How on earth do you glean that from my comment? What part of "equate" don't you understand?
Being a Military hero didn't get John Kerry a pass. They merely put out band-aids with purple hearts on them. Really supporting the troops with that one.
I also heard Liddy on some radio show in the nineties talking about using pictures of Bill and Hillary Clinton for target practice. I couldn't believe what I was hearing, and couldn't believe that there wasn't any kind of uproar. it wasn't any of the major rightie shows. I can't remember which one of the local shows it was. At the time, though there wasn't anything like Media Matters, or any of the sites we have today. I think it'd be splashed all over the news if he did something like that now.
Liddy advocated the murder of federal agents in 1992, when he called on the American domestic right wing terrorists, specfically the right wing racist white supremacist Aryan Nation terrorists, to shoot federal agents in the head. Add to that, Randi Rhodes reported that Liddy once planned for, or called for, the murder of Nixon's political enemies.
The NEA (or the FEA) is a racist organization?
LOL, no. As a member of the NEA, I can confirm that we are in fact a terrorist organization.
I knew they weren't, but I was just applying the broad brush like some others here that tend to label all of a certain group the same as idiots (for the lack of a better word at the moment) associated with that group. The fool noted above is an idiot and his actions are his alone.
As an artist/woodworker, I agree. I make (and sell to craft galleries all over the country) Exotic wood, inlay handled letter openers which under the patriot act are also considered weapons of mass destruction. I am also an America hater as I believe we should have never invaded Iraq which will soon be renamed Desertistan or It'sfreekinghotashellistan. As a Ky artist and member of the Ky. guild of artists and craftsmen, I call my letter openers "Kentucky brain testers. You stick the sharp end in your left ear and poke it thru till it comes out your right ear. If you feel no pain, you got no brain" I sent one to bush and when he put it in his left ear it fell to the bottom of his head.
It's what Rick Perlstein calls, FNB politics.
"With little to show the electorate in 2008—after six years of uninterrupted control—besides sub-standard care from a privatized workforce at Walter Reed Hospital, thrice-married “family values” presidential candidates, and a boom in home foreclosures, the conservative base’s 2008 strategy has begun to emerge: Weaken the major Democratic opponents by making their image unpalatable to the public."
I guess according to McCain and the NYT since Liddy has his own radio show it is not an issue. To me Liddy is scum and McCain is a hypocrite.
"I guess according to McCain and the NYT since Liddy has his own radio show it is not an issue. To me Liddy is scum and McCain is a hypocrite."
And the people who support Liar McCain and Violent Liar Liddy are lying hypocrites, in addition to also being violent sociopaths.
For some reason, the MSM thinks 60s bashing is sexy. And Liddy isn't. I think that explains the discrepancy. It's become the new big myth that the 60s was a failure-- especially among young people who weren't there-- and Liddy is considered to be cool and funny.
The 60's were groovy, you dig? I thought the word "cool" died in the 50's and bell bottoms had gone forever in the late 70's. This could portend bush running against Obama in 2012. Is it possible bush could scam another election and 3rd term? mickey c. could be his VP and we could go back to Nam and finish the job by cracky! Or. am I having a nightmare while awake?
Far in, right off, out of state. Report for regrooving.
what about mccain's association with the palins themselves? the palins were members of the alaska independence party...an organization whose primary goal is to destroy the union.,, where's the outrage?
as for character... mccain deserted his crippled 1st wife to marry his rich mistress.... how low is that?
here's the answer to the riddle-- McCain has Gordon Liddy in his past regarding Watergate, but Palin has Gordon Liddy in her immediate present circle in regards to drilling in Alaska
here's the article
Group hires Liddy of Watergate fame to promote Alaska petroleum drilling
http://juneauempire.com/stories/042008/sta_270391952.shtml
"ANCHORAGE - The lobbying group that uses state of Alaska money to push for petroleum drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge has hired Watergate conspirator and talk radio host G. Gordon Liddy to broadcast live from Alaska.
Arctic Power spokesman Adrian Herrera said Liddy was hired to broadcast from Alaska for five days in mid-July. His listeners are mostly blue collar and middle-aged, Herrera said."
seems like there's some vested interest in this. Palin's husband is also with BP-- so how much money goes around and into the back pocket when Palin is chanting "Drill, baby, drill" as she corrected Biden.
and does Biden have any personal interests? Seems like there's a Halliburton going on here.
The more parallels they have, the more I become disinterested in either of them.
what do you mean?
Why is the media ignoring the fact that there are 6 candidates who could win? The exclusion from the public debates is a violation of basic democratic principles! Please send this video to others: 5 Friends? Hell, tell 10 and tell them there are 6 presidential candidates who are on the ballot in enough states to win enough electoral votes to win the election: Ralph Nader, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney, Chuck Baldwin, Obama and McCain
Why is the media ignoring the fact that there are 6 candidates who could win?
Because there are not six candidates who could win.
loonz , yes there are, there are 6 presidential candidates who are on the ballot in enough states to win enough electoral votes to win the election: Ralph Nader, Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney, Chuck Baldwin, Obama and McCain
In the US, the voting goes by state and these candidates are on the ballots in the overwhelming majority of them. For example, Nader is a factor. The media is being DISHONEST.
You're missing the point. There may be 6 presidential candidates, but not 6 who could win. Unless you're referring to the possibility that Obama and McCain both die in the next 30 days. I think there'd be a better chance of my winning the lottery.
If you'd like to see more names on the ballot, I assume you're working on a grass roots level to bring run-off voting to city/county/and state elections; also working in a 3rd party to get local candidates elected.
Ralph Nader lost my respect when he played spoiler against Gore and only appeared in the aftermath of that to hawk a book or run for president.
Not only does McCain need to answer abour Liddy, but Palin needs to also answer about her association with the anit-American, separatist group in Alaska.
Why is everyone ignoring the real terrorist coddlers here? Todd Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party until 2002 and just earlier this year, Sarah Palin addressed their members by video and told them to "keep up the good work". The AIP pushes for secession from the U.S. and it's founder, Joe Volger stated that he had no use for America or her "damned institutions." The AIP also connects with other militia groups around the country and the world, including the Chechen separtists who have recently been accepting aid from Al Qaida. This is no stretch either. These are documented associations and I have no idea why the Obama camp doesn't jump on them. The AIP is a bonafide anti-American organization --- it could even be logically said to be a terrorist sponsoring organization--- and Sarah Palin and her family's ties to it should be bought up by the Obama campaign. But, nnooo, we Democrats are too nice for such gutter fighting.
Help me get this - McCain's pal Liddy is a convicted felon . . right ? And Obama's passing acquaintance Ayers hasn't been convicted (or even charged ?) Yet Palin and the NY Times try to stick Obama with leftover stink from forty years ago . . right ? Somebody's spinning some toxic fuzz here . . . to us it's like cotton candy for a hungry heart . . . please address real issues . . . this is rubber bones for starving dogs . . . do your job dammit !
The right wing conservative New York Times wants Liar McCain elected. They're more likely to attack Media Matters for mentioning McCain's being supported by Liar Liddy.
30+ year old crimes. Ayers, never convicted. Liddy, convicted, did his time. Nothing to see hear folks, let's get back to what we do about economy, Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, SSI, healthcare, etc., etc..
They are ignoring it because Liddy is not a freaking terrorist like Ayers!
Violent criminal Liar Liddy advocated the cold blooded murder of federal agents by the violent American right wing racist white supremacist terrorist Aryan Nations in 1992, when Liddy said that the right wing terrorists should shoot federal agents in the head. But since the racist white supremacist Aryan Nations are RIGHT WING AMERICAN domestic terrorists, that's just fine with you.
But Liddy is a convicted felon, unlike Ayers. A convicted felon who was sentenced to 20 years in prison. A covicted felon who was okay with subverting the electoral system. A convicted felon who wanted to kidnap and kill journalists. But I guess, in the hypocracy filled head of the republicans, that kind of stuff does not matter. Huh?
i dont know much about either candidate's history, but i do know that everyone has bad people supporting them and bad people as friends so maybe nobody should run for president.