Fox News' Kelly mocked ACORN for accurate statement about Florida registration law
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SUMMARY: Fox News' Megyn Kelly mocked ACORN's statement that it was required under Florida law to submit a voter registration form filed under the name "Mickey Mouse" to the Orange County, Florida, board of elections. In fact, Florida law calls for entities withholding voter registration forms to face a fine of $1,000 for each registration they withhold.
On the October 14 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Megyn Kelly mocked the statement by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) that it was required under Florida law to submit a voter registration form filed under the name "Mickey Mouse" to the Orange County, Florida, board of elections. After co-host Bill Hemmer noted that the board of elections had rejected the form in question, and that "ACORN says they are required to turn in every application that is filled out, even if it says Mickey Mouse," Kelly asserted: "I love that, they've got the obligation to submit it no matter what it says. Mickey Mouse, Jive Turkey, which we saw yesterday. How are we to know?" An October 14 St. Petersburg Times article reporting on the "Mickey Mouse" registration form quoted Brian Kettenring, whom the Times identified as "ACORN's head organizer in Florida," as asserting: "We must turn in every voter registration card by Florida law, even Mickey Mouse." Indeed, under Florida law, entities withholding voter registration forms face a fine of $1,000 for each registration they withhold.
According to Florida statutes governing third-party registrations, "A third-party voter registration organization that collects voter registration applications serves as a fiduciary to the applicant, ensuring that any voter registration application entrusted to the third-party voter registration organization, irrespective of party affiliation, race, ethnicity, or gender shall be promptly delivered to the division or the supervisor of elections." If the third-party voter registration organization fails to submit a voter registration application, it is liable for "[a] fine in the amount of $1,000 for any application not submitted if the third-party registration organization or person, entity, or agency acting on its behalf acted willfully." From the 2008 Florida statutes:
(3) A third-party voter registration organization that collects voter registration applications serves as a fiduciary to the applicant, ensuring that any voter registration application entrusted to the third-party voter registration organization, irrespective of party affiliation, race, ethnicity, or gender shall be promptly delivered to the division or the supervisor of elections. If a voter registration application collected by any third-party voter registration organization is not promptly delivered to the division or supervisor of elections, the third-party voter registration organization shall be liable for the following fines:
(a) A fine in the amount of $50 for each application received by the division or the supervisor of elections more than 10 days after the applicant delivered the completed voter registration application to the third-party voter registration organization or any person, entity, or agent acting on its behalf. A fine in the amount of $250 for each application received if the third-party registration organization or person, entity, or agency acting on its behalf acted willfully.
(b) A fine in the amount of $100 for each application collected by a third-party voter registration organization or any person, entity, or agent acting on its behalf, prior to book closing for any given election for federal or state office and received by the division or the supervisor of elections after the book closing deadline for such election. A fine in the amount of $500 for each application received if the third-party registration organization or person, entity, or agency acting on its behalf acted willfully.
(c) A fine in the amount of $500 for each application collected by a third-party voter registration organization or any person, entity, or agent acting on its behalf, which is not submitted to the division or supervisor of elections. A fine in the amount of $1,000 for any application not submitted if the third-party registration organization or person, entity, or agency acting on its behalf acted willfully.
The aggregate fine pursuant to this subsection which may be assessed against a third-party voter registration organization, including affiliate organizations, for violations committed in a calendar year shall be $1,000. The fines provided in this subsection shall be reduced by three-fourths in cases in which the third-party voter registration organization has complied with subsection (1). The secretary shall waive the fines described in this subsection upon a showing that the failure to deliver the voter registration application promptly is based upon force majeure or impossibility of performance.
From the October 14 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:
HELLER: Well, you know how to spell it, don't you? M-I-C-K-E-Y, that's right. That's how Mickey Mouse was spelled on a voter application handed in in Florida. Apparently Mickey wants to do his civic duty. That's right. His registration form had an ACORN stamp on it. It was quickly rejected by the county board of elections. They saw it, threw it out. ACORN says they are required to turn in every application that is filled out, even if it says Mickey Mouse. No word on whether or not he registered as a Republican or a Democrat. In the meantime, we are six minutes away from an ACORN press conference live at the National Press Club here in Washington. Their defense for all the stories that have been swirling out about there for the past week or 10 days, we will take you there live when it starts, Megyn, at 10:30 Eastern Time, expected start here.
KELLY: I love that, they've got the obligation to submit it no matter what it says. Mickey Mouse, Jive Turkey, which we saw yesterday.
HELLER: Jive Turkey.
KELLY: How are we to know?
If FOX had its way, only White , wealthy Republican men would vote.
GOP-Fox is not only a lying right wing Republican propaganda center, they are stanuchly racist and whte supremacist! Racist White Supremacist Republican Hate Hag Megyn Kelly is just ONE of GOP-Fox's many right wing racists.
The only blacks that right wing racists like Megyn Kelly "likes" are the ones who say "Yes, ma'am, boss" or "No, ma'am, boss" to her.
Of Course. ACORN registers Mickey Mouse, so republicans must be racist. Dont you guys know any other song to sing? If Obama does win, I can wait to see how you blame each and every failure of his adminstration on race.
ACORN submits suspect registration forms in a separate pile for the state governments, to make them easier for the state governments to throw out.
But ACORN is required by law to submit suspect registration forms they receive.
Of course, the state government throws out "Mickey Mouse" and so no names are added to the voter rolls in that case.
Eric Foser says their are two Mickey Mouses living in Florida. Nation wide eight Luke Skywalkers. The way parents torture their children, sheesh.
You really don't know how to pay attention in class..... do you POV?
The Florida law specifically states that every single registration form/application that ACORN recieves..... MUST be turned in.... even if it says Mickey Mouse as the name!
In other words.... it is not up to ACORN to decide whether the Mickey Mouse name is legitimate..... it is the state of Florida!
By Megyn Kelly telling the story the way she did.... she is lying/misleading about the context to which the ACORN representative spoke.... which falls under the catagory of "Conservative/rightwing misinformation".....
The very thing that MMfA exposes!
As for 'if' Obama wins.... I think you can drop the pretext on that thought and simply go with 'after'
Obama has the potential to being the next FDR.... I hold hope that he will.... and his being black with have nothing to do with it in any way shape or form.... it will be because he may well end up being one of the greatest presidents we will have ever had!
Man she's hot. I don't ever watch Fox News. It's bad for my blood pressure and sanity, but I must say that they do know their eye candy. The other news channels only have a smattering of babeosity.
There's a simple fact here that the rabid right is missing. Even if the registrations were to miraculously get through, who's going to vote on Mickey Mouse's behalf? If this were a scheme to throw an election, it would be the most ineffectual and inefficient scheme ever conceived. It's much smarter to alter the way that votes are counted after the fact because you can do it at large scale and leave little evidence.
KELLY: I love that, they've got the obligation to submit it no matter what it says. Mickey Mouse, Jive Turkey, which we saw yesterday
Well, if Mickey or Jive show up at the polls, then I guess you can say there's a problem. The only problem I see is people saw an opportunity to make some cash by filling out fake forms. These people will never go to the polls!
Well, if Mickey or Jive show up at the polls, then I guess you can say there's a problem.
That reminds me of a place I worked back in the '70s.
The company had a bunch of attractive 20-something females working as receptionists, and guys would hang out in the lobby and try to make them laugh when they were paging someone. So one day. Management reassigned all the 20-somethings to positions in other departments and brought in a crew of 50-somethings and 60-somethings to serve as our new receptionists.
The first day, people were dialing "0" and asking for all sorts of bizarre pages to be made over the PA, such as "Rhoda Dendron" and "Annie Pasta". They even slipped in a few celebrity names they figured the older ladies wouldn't recognize, siuch as "Paul McCartney" and "John Travolta".
We had one guy in the computer department whose name was "Ed Sullivan". People tried to page him, but the receptionists refused - they thought it was a made-up name. Ed had to go down to the lobby and prove he was a live person, and THEN they started paging him.
:-)
You think Ed had it bad - I used to work with a guy named (this is no lie) Jack Goff. Try to get that name paged.
I've known a Holly Woods, and a Charlie Brown amongst others. The latter makes me wonder why the guy doesn't simply go by Charles Brown.
My all-time favorite name of this nature, however is the professional baseball player Mike Colangelo. Say it fast. I was watching a Mariners-Padres spring training game and he came up to bat. I thought it was joke.
You think Ed had it bad - I used to work with a guy named (this is no lie) Jack Goff. Try to get that name paged.
Another place I worked at had a guy named "Paul Hunt". One day a bunch of guys went to the lobby, told the young blonde receptionist that Paul Hunt's brother Mike was somewhere in the factory, and they were all supposed to go out to luch - could she please page him?
Imagine what happened when she keyed up the microphone and said "Will Mike Hunt please come to the lobby?" :-)
Way back in my restaurant management days I could always tell when there was a broadcast of Porky's on TV. I could almost guarantee that we'd get a caller looking for Mike Hunt. One waitress who took one of those calls couldn't believe the rude comment I made to the caller when I heard the message. I had to explain it to her, which was awkward when she didn't catch on to the joke very quickly.
I wonder if Megyn Kelly could get a job as a snotty mom on The Hills. The role wouldn't be a stretch for her.
-- ACORN says they are required to turn in every application that is filled out --
The St. Petersburg Times has added a little clarity to the statement about the law:
-- Florida does have a law saying third-party voter registration groups must turn in every form without regard to things like party affiliation, race, ethnicity or gender. So far, however, the state has not written the rules to implement it. -- Jennifer Krell Davis, spokeswoman for the Florida Department of State
Ah. Another distinction without a difference. Spin spin spin, you beautiful monster.
So between ACORN's registration fraud, and the GOP's illegal voter purges in swing states, this election will be decided by Mickey Mouse, Jive Turkey, and Ann Coulter?
I predict Obama wins, 2-1
So between ACORN's registration fraud
It's not ACORN's registration fraud unless the organization told workers to commit fraudulent activity. And if the County Boards were doing their jobs, no one was fraudulently registered. "The GOP is making a mushroom cloud out of a mole hill" (I saw this comment on another website).
"The GOP is making a mushroom cloud out of a mole hill" (I saw this comment on another website)."
Well, we all know what the Bush regime says about 'mushroom clouds' being the first sign of the end, so I'd be a little careful in wanting to use it.....
Hey Wes, no Poll updates today?
I've been wondering about the status of the poll surge myself.
Hey Wes, no Poll updates today?
Here's today's update from Electoral-Vote.com -
Obama 357
McCain 181
http://www.electoral-vote.com/
Hey Wes,
What does Ms. Davis' statement mean? The state hasn't written the rules to implement a law? I've never heard of such a thing. A law is a law, it doesn't need rules to implement it!
Unfortunately, Ms. Davis is another in a long line of GOP hacks working in the State of Florida's Department of State.
She just made that up.
-- Florida does have a law saying third-party voter registration groups must turn in every form without regard to things like party affiliation, race, ethnicity or gender. So far, however, the state has not written the rules to implement it. -- Jennifer Krell Davis, spokeswoman for the Florida Department of State
Yes, they have the rules-- the law itself.
-- Indeed, under Florida law, entities withholding voter registration forms face a fine of $1,000 for each registration they withhold. --mmfa
-- The aggregate fine pursuant to this subsection which may be assessed against a third-party voter registration organization, including affiliate organizations, for violations committed in a calendar year shall be $1,000. -- mmfa
Can any of our resident lawyers clear this up?
I'm not a lawyer (I'm just a union electrician) but I'll try to answer it anyway. The law has a list of fines ranging from $50 to $1000. The aggregate total of these fines assessed to a third party organization shall not exceed $1000 in a calendar year. In others words, the organization is liable for a maximum of $1000.
-- ACORN says they are required to turn in every application that is filled out --
They also say, "ACORN flags in writing incomplete, problem, or suspicious cards when we turn them in".
I don't know if the form was incomplete...but it sure fits the definition of problematic or suspicious...did Acorn indeed flag Mickey's registration as they claim?
Do you have a point?
I don't know if the form was incomplete...but it sure fits the definition of problematic or suspicious...did Acorn indeed flag Mickey's registration as they claim?
It doesn't matter. The county Board of Elections is suppose to make sure Mickey Mouse doesn't get registered unless Mickey Mouse has a valid SS# and/or driver's license #.
How fitting. Bill Hemmer and Megyn Kelly are covering the Mickey Mouse scandal, and even then they are in over their heads.
One of my school mates was named Kenny Beater...his uncle's name was Peter.
You're exactly right. The lying, fascist, racist, theocratic, whit supremacist, violent right will blame ACORN, they will blame poor people, they will blame Latinos, they will blame blacks, they will blame black talk radio, or any combination of them, plus some other people and things they don't like.
Thing is, if it's not even close, they won't be able to trot out the old "democrats stole the election" canard. Which is why I want to see OBama CRUSH McCain in November.
ACORN is a non partisan organization. Obama has no control over them.
Obviously neither racist Republican hate hag Kelly, nor the lying right wing Republican Liar Bill Hemmer, have anything to say about Ol' Liar Ann Coulter's voter fraud, and why the right wing corrupt conservative oligarchic fascist U.S. Attorney is allowing criminal Coulter's votr fraud. ACORN wasn't involved in that.
Knowing hate hag Kelly, in her sister hate hag Coulter's voting fraud case, she will demand that Coulter's accusers be investigated and prosecuted instead.
Maybe ACORN stands for
Ann Coulter's Occupied Residence Nothwithstanding
Say...you might be on to something there.
YOU SEE ROVE SENT OUT THE NEW TALKING POINT MEMO FOR MCCAIN TOO THE NETWORKS AND RIGHT-WINGERS BRING UP ACORN AND LOOK WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT ON CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS, ABC, CBS AND NBC. THE RACE ATTACKTS DIDN'T DO IT NOW LET'S SCARE THEM WITH THEY ARE GOING TOO STEAL THE ELECTION!!!! I ALSO SEE ROVE TOLD MCCAIN HEY WE ARE DOWN IN THE POLLS BECAUSE THE OLDER WHITE PEOPLE WHO WERE FOR US ARE GOING TOO OBAMA BECAUSE OF WALL STREET SO WE BETTER TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY.
Let's talk about the shift key, right-winger - and its proper usage.....
I think the investigation was squelched by the GOP.
I did a Google search on Nathan Sproul this morning, He's still a big muckity-muck in the Arizona GOP. The investigation into his voter fraud in Oregon back in 2004 was stopped due to lack of evidence - I guess NAthan threw all the evidence out.....
Where does FOX get these Hannity clones and the blond bimbos who echo their oral flatus?
I'm not a lawyer either, but I would explain it slightly differently. The longer they wait to turn in the registration, the more fines are added. If the registration is never turned in, the fines add up to $1000. This is applied to every single registration. so if they fail to turn in 100 forms, the fines would add up to $100,000.
The pattern they use is to turn a "molehill" into a big evil "mountain" regarding a Democratic party accusation. There is little evidence of voter fraud. But the Media trumps it up and also blows it out of porportion. The next election cycle it will be the Republicans who genuinely carryout mass voter fraud, but when the Media is called to task on reporting it, they will say "It's old news", or "People are burned out on that subject". The Republicans have used election fraud and are planning to use voter fraud. But first they will desensitize the Media about it by using the Democrats as target practice.
Kelly is a jive turkey and she doesn't even know it!
If Fox didn't use a seatbelt, Kelly would float right out of her chair, being such a huge AIR-HEAD!