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Dick Morris baselessly accused ACORN of "committing voter fraud"

October 15, 2008 4:52 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Fox News' Dick Morris baselessly accused ACORN of "committing voter fraud." In fact, ACORN does not stand accused of "committing voter fraud," and Morris did not point to any allegations that ACORN has engaged in voter fraud.

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On the October 15 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor Dick Morris baselessly accused the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) of "committing voter fraud." In fact, ACORN does not stand accused of "committing voter fraud," and, during the segment, Morris did not cite a single allegation to support his assertion that ACORN has engaged in voter fraud.

Rather, according to an October 15 New York Times article, ACORN has "acknowledged cases where canvassers submitted false or duplicate registrations, but said they represented only a tiny fraction of the 1.3 million new voters the group signed up during this election cycle [emphasis added]." The Times reported that "Acorn officials said that in many states they were required by law to turn in all registration forms even if they were deemed problematic." The Times did not report that what Acorn said is true: Many states indeed require ACORN to submit all registration forms it received.

As New York University's Brennan Center for Justice stated in a 2007 report titled "The Truth About Voter Fraud," voter fraud is "fraud by voters" and "occurs when individuals cast ballots despite knowing that they are ineligible to vote, in an attempt to defraud the election system."

From the Brennan Center's report:

What Is Voter Fraud?

"Voter fraud" is fraud by voters.

More precisely, "voter fraud" occurs when individuals cast ballots despite knowing that they are ineligible to vote, in an attempt to defraud the election system.

This sounds straightforward. And yet, voter fraud is often conflated, intentionally or unintentionally, with other forms of election misconduct or irregularities.

The Brennan Center report later stated:

There have been several documented and widely publicized instances in which registration forms have been fraudulently completed and submitted. But it is extraordinarily difficult to find reported cases in which individuals have submitted registration forms in someone else's name in order to impersonate them at the polls. Furthermore, most reports of registration fraud do not actually claim that the fraud happens so that ineligible people can vote at the polls. Indeed, we are aware of no recent substantiated case in which registration fraud has resulted in fraudulent votes being cast.

Similarly, the Politico's Ben Smith noted in an October 9 post titled "Two kinds of fraud" that there is a "key distinction" between "voter fraud" and "voter registration fraud." From Smith's post:

Two kinds of fraud

"Acorn" may not exactly be a household word, but it was on the cover of one of the newspapers I read in hard copy today, so it seemed worth getting into a marginal story that the GOP is trying to make central.

The key distinction here is between voter fraud and voter registration fraud, one of which is truly dangerous, the other a petty crime.

The former would be, say, voting the cemeteries or stuffing the ballot boxes. This has happened occasionally in American history, though I can think of recent instances only in rare local races. Practically speaking, this can most easily be done by whoever is actually administering the election, which is why partisan observers carefully oversee the vote-counting process.

The latter is putting the names of fake voters on the rolls, something that happens primarily when organizations, like Acorn, pay contractors for new voter registrations. That can be a crime, and it messes up the voter files, but there's virtually no evidence these imaginary people then vote in November. The current stories about Acorn don't even allege a plan to affect the November vote.

From the October 15 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

MORRIS: But the point is that Obama is funding a group that is committing voter fraud, and that's a character question.

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): Right, so he should --

MORRIS: And --

CARLSON: So should he come out and denounce them, or will he just be able to continue to kind of half-answer the question about his involvement with it? And also, it seems to me, though -- it seems to me that Barack Obama is baiting John McCain, as well, to talk about things like ACORN and Bill Ayers tonight, because he's on record as saying, "Hey, he didn't do it. You know, he somehow didn't have enough -- whatever it takes -- to bring it up."

MORRIS: Well, McCain is going to work on trying to nail the Jell-O to the wall, and that's going to be hard, but I hope he can do it.

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    • Author by Victor Colorado (October 15, 2008 4:59 pm ET)
         

      Morris gets so much time on TV posing as some kind of expert on election matters and he does not even know what voter fraud is.  Wow!

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      • Author by captfoster2 (October 16, 2008 9:49 am ET)
           

        "Morris gets so much time on TV posing as some kind of......" STOP!

        Expert? He's on Fox Noise and Fox Noise only..... that makes him a shill, a whore, and he still is a prositute toe-sucker! Nothing more!

        ps... sorry VictorColorado.... I did not mean to snap... you were going in the right direction in your post.... but to assume that Dick Morris is anything nearing an 'expert' on anything simply for having airtime on Fox.....

        That's a lot like saying that GWB is an expert in running the country simply because he's lived in the White House the last eight years!

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        • Author by Victor Colorado (October 16, 2008 12:27 pm ET)
             

          I get your point, but he's not just on Fox News.  He was on the Today show not too long ago (intervied by Matt Lauer).  Like you, I don't see him as an expert either - he does however get time on non-Fox TV.

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    • Author by wzwriter (October 15, 2008 5:01 pm ET)
         
      Dick Morris IS a fraud.....
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      • Author by mrhebert74 (October 15, 2008 6:27 pm ET)
           

        not to mention kind of a Dick.

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        • Author by snoopy (October 15, 2008 7:48 pm ET)
             

          Just remember, this isn't about winning the election anymore. It's now about minimizing GOP losses. Wonder how well that will work...

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    • Author by princeofwheels (October 15, 2008 5:02 pm ET)
         

      Dick Morris talking about character...WOW...

      Seems that in another life, Dick wasn't so nice. I guess his character should not be questioned because he is a common tater.

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      • Author by wzwriter (October 15, 2008 5:48 pm ET)
           

        Dick Morris talking about character...WOW...

        Kinda like Gramps McCain talking about fidelity in your marriage.  Or Larry Craig talking about men's room ettiquette.....

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    • Author by nerzog (October 15, 2008 5:06 pm ET)
         

      So, is this the much anticipated "October surprise"?  The Troglodytes fear that the Grampy/Twit ticket is going down in flames, so they're manufacturing this phony controversy to cast doubt on the legitimacy of an Obama presidency.  If Obama wins, shall we expect a flurry of lawsuits and mealy-mouthed grandstanding by the shrinking Republican minority in Congress?

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      • Author by DAWUSS (October 15, 2008 5:19 pm ET)
           

        I thought the "October Surprise" was Hannity's "whitey" tape of Michelle Obama...

        Does anyone remember that one?

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (October 16, 2008 12:21 am ET)
             

          Wuss, I don't think anybody remembers that one, any more than they "remember" the positive effects of trickle-down economics or the second coming of Christ. They may remember the promises, but not so much on the delivery.

          OT, but I think Dick Morris finally came out of the closet tonight when he described Grampy's debate performance as "fabulous". 

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      • Author by pete592 (October 15, 2008 5:37 pm ET)
           

        It looks like it's going to be lots of lesser "surprises" in hopes that they add up a pile of something other than jack squat.

        Here's another one, in case you didn't see it yet.

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        • Author by nerzog (October 15, 2008 6:02 pm ET)
             

          And, there's a new one percolating among PigBoy Limbaugh's sycophants;  Some couple claims that an unauthorized $2300 charge allegedly from the Obama campaign appeared on their credit card statement.  Maybe it did, but what are the chances that it's really from the Obama campaign?  It could easily be a scam artist using Obama's name.  However, you can bet your bippy that the Troglodytes will accuse the Obama Campaign of massive credit card fraud against Republicans.  I think this promises to be another big manufactured controversy.   We'll see...

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (October 16, 2008 12:31 am ET)
               

            Nerz, I heard that, and Fatboy was warning his zombies to check their CC statements carefully- as if the average dittohead isn't contesting every $10 swipe at the liquor store they don't remember making.

            I heard another funny one on Rush today,re: the "Bill Ayers as ghost writer" sucker bait.If I'm not mistaken, a few days ago, the meme was that Obama's two books were stylistically very different from one another, and one of them was very similar to Ayers writing (including the use of the very  esoteric word "ballast"), indicating that Ayers had written one of the books.

            Today, it seems that the wingnuts came up with some new info.; Both of Obama's books were written during a lull in Ayers prolific publishing streak. Instantly, now both of Obama's books were identical in style to each other, as well as to Ayers' writing.

            The zombies got right on board.

            Next time, on Embracing Your Cognitive Dissonance....

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    • Author by wookie (October 15, 2008 5:07 pm ET)
         
      So the folks with the Sore Loserman bumper stickers are already plotting out how to contest the vote?
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    • Author by foghornleghorn (October 15, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
         
      Maybe Obama should just admit it. ACORN is a front for a wide-scale voter fraud scheme, one where they have hired hundreds, if not thousands, of poor and/or underemployed political operatives to go from polling place to polling place on election day and cast multiple votes for Obama in the names of Disney characters and Dallas Cowboys players, all so Obama can steal the election. Back to reality... That's the hard way to steal an election. The easy way is to control who COUNTS THE VOTES (Diebold) or PURGE felons or people with the same names as felons (Florida) or people who have had their homes foreclosed (everywhere).
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    • Author by JLyons (October 15, 2008 5:12 pm ET)
         
      Ok , Dick Facts please? Please provide facts
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      • Author by shaggles (October 15, 2008 5:24 pm ET)
           

        Dick Morris wouldn't know a fact if it jumped up and bit him in the, as McCain would say, you-know-what.  I'm surprised the Reps have waited so late in the game to pull the old voter fraud gag.  Of course the MSM is playing right along so it may work out for them yet.

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    • Author by SDL (October 15, 2008 5:48 pm ET)
         
      Dick'll get back to you later. He's busy sucking a hooker's toes...
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    • Author by zamfir273114 (October 15, 2008 6:15 pm ET)
         

      Actually, I don't know anybody who likes Dick Morris.  Republican, Democrat, liberals, independents and conservatives all think he is a failed-abortion.  Dick Morris should not be on television ever.  

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      • Author by Marker (October 15, 2008 7:15 pm ET)
           

        Morris is liked by repugs because repugs don't believe in abortion.

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        • Author by zamfir273114 (October 15, 2008 7:27 pm ET)
             

          I'm a Republican and I believe in abortion.  I like the idea that a woman has total control over her body.  I also believe in saving the environment, and investing in solar, wind even nuclear energy to get away from the oil companies that are raping the common people.  I am a big believer in net neutrality.  I am also a big believer in the right of anyone over 18 to form a contractual bond (i.e. marriage) with same sex.  The only time we disagree is when it comes to social welfare programs, illegal immigration and taxation.  I also want to eliminate much of the lobbying in Washington by special interest groups (including but not limited to AIPAC and CAIR).  I have always been opposed to Bush's strategies in this war, as well as the entire war inself.  You can't clump all republicans together.  You should remember, I was a big supporter of Clinton and Hilary Clinton too.

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          • Author by magnolialover (October 15, 2008 7:43 pm ET)
               

            Funny. You sound like a democrat. And if you want those things that you believe to continue, you should probably vote republican. The one thing I have to disagree with you on, is if you think CAIR has even something close to what AIPAC has in Washington, you are sorely mistaken. They don't even compare, not even close. AIPAC is a monster of an organization, and has almost every single politician in their pocket, republican, democrat, independent, all of them. Find me one politician who has endorsed CAIR. I don't think you'd probably find one speaking their name.

            Anyway, if you want less taxes, vote for Obama. 

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            • Author by zamfir273114 (October 15, 2008 7:53 pm ET)
                 

              I agree that AIPAC is way out of control and not even comparable to CAIR.  My bad.

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    • Author by nativeofsf (October 15, 2008 7:56 pm ET)
         

      DickieM's such a little stinky bug...

      wish somebody would gish him,

      like SPLAT!

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    • Author by didi (October 15, 2008 7:57 pm ET)
         
      This fixation on ACORN is verging on irrational. The effects of any misconduct by ACORN or it's hires on any election is negligible. So now it comes down to politics. Right wing talking heads have a lot of sway on the media in that they are able to drive issues for extended periods without evidence to support their position. I can't count the times I switched on a political discussion only to find ACORN being mentioned out of the blue by the GOP surrogate. They are inventing ways to get their scandal of the week out.
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      • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (October 16, 2008 1:19 am ET)
           

        It's a huge public relations campaign of the super wealthy to sell a product, the GOP and it's candidates.

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    • Author by Great American (October 15, 2008 9:48 pm ET)
         

      Its pathetic that MMFA is defending ACORN.

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      • Author by eweston8542983 (October 15, 2008 10:47 pm ET)
           

        Gonna take more than your labeling them pathetic to even slow them down.

        I'm sure that if you unpack all your evidence, it'll all be better.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (October 16, 2008 12:34 am ET)
             

          I think HK put all of his energy into dreaming up his Republican rapper name. The comments don't seem to ever get past one-line grunts.

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      • Author by eddy3957 reregistered (October 16, 2008 1:23 am ET)
           

        You're killing the Hezbollah, or you're a Hezbolla who kills?

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    • Author by TadekKorn (October 16, 2008 3:31 am ET)
         

      More is less when you're listening to Dick on  FOX.  It's punishes the mind.

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    • Author by TadekKorn (October 16, 2008 3:34 am ET)
         
      More is less when you're listening to Dick on FOX. Why punish the mind with his mind-numbing nonsense?
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