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Scarborough misquoted Obama regarding Lewis remarks, then called the statement Obama didn't make "shocking" and "staggering"

October 16, 2008 4:01 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Morning Joe, Joe Scarborough falsely asserted that Sen. Barack Obama said during the October 15 presidential debate that Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) "drew appropriate comparisons" in a statement invoking George Wallace and a church bombing in criticizing "the negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign." In fact, Obama said that Lewis "inappropriately drew a comparison between what was happening [at McCain-Palin rallies] and what had happened during the civil rights movement, and we immediately put out a statement saying that we don't think that comparison is appropriate" [emphasis added].

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During the October 16 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, host Joe Scarborough falsely asserted that Sen. Barack Obama said during the October 15 presidential debate that Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) "drew appropriate comparisons" in an October 11 statement invoking George Wallace, the segregationist former governor of Alabama, and a church bombing in Birmingham, Alabama, in criticizing the "negative tone of the McCain-Palin campaign." In fact, when prompted during the debate to discuss Lewis' statement, Obama said that Lewis "inappropriately drew a comparison between what was happening there [at McCain-Palin rallies] and what had happened during the civil rights movement, and we immediately put out a statement saying that we don't think that comparison is appropriate" [emphasis added]. Indeed, co-host Willie Geist aired a clip of Obama saying Lewis' comparison was "inappropriate[]" moments before Scarborough claimed otherwise. Nonetheless, Scarborough went on to criticize Obama for a statement that he did not make, asserting: "That's a guy that doesn't want to offend his base. That was shocking to me." Scarborough also said the statement was "staggering."

As Obama noted during the debate, the Obama campaign issued an October 11 statement in which campaign spokesman Bill Burton said of Lewis' remarks:

Senator Obama does not believe that John McCain or his policy criticism is in any way comparable to George Wallace or his segregationist policies. But John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for President of the United States "pals around with terrorists." As Barack Obama has said himself, the last thing we need from either party is the kind of angry, divisive rhetoric that tears us apart at a time of crisis when we desperately need to come together. That is the kind of campaign Senator Obama will continue to run in the weeks ahead.

During the Morning Joe discussion, Scarborough further asserted:

[T]hink about this, though. ... How ironic it is that actually Barack Obama had the association with a domestic terrorist, but Barack Obama -- and John Lewis -- actually linked Sarah Palin with domestic terrorists that killed four little girls in Birmingham in a bombing -- that this event occurred before she was even born. So, Obama knows a domestic terrorist. Obama started his campaign in the living room -- his '95 political career in the home of domestic terrorist, and, yet, they're trying to link Sarah Palin with four guys who blew up a church in '63?

From the October 15 presidential debate:

OBAMA: I mean, look, if we want to talk about Congressman Lewis, who is an American hero, he, unprompted by my campaign, without my campaign's awareness, made a statement that he was troubled with what he was hearing at some of the rallies that your running mate was holding, in which all the Republican reports indicated were shouting, when my name came up, things like "terrorist" and "kill him," and that you're running mate didn't mention, didn't stop, didn't say "Hold on a second, that's kind of out of line."

And I think Congressman Lewis' point was that we have to be careful about how we deal with our supporters.

Now...

MCCAIN: You've got to read what he said...

(CROSSTALK)

OBAMA: Let -- let -- let...

MCCAIN: You've got to read what he said.

OBAMA: Let me -- let me complete...

SCHIEFFER: Go ahead.

OBAMA: ... my response. I do think that he inappropriately drew a comparison between what was happening there and what had happened during the civil rights movement, and we immediately put out a statement saying that we don't think that comparison is appropriate.

And, in fact, afterwards, Congressman Lewis put out a similar statement, saying that he had probably gone over the line.

The important point here is, though, the American people have become so cynical about our politics, because all they see is a tit- for-tat and back-and-forth. And what they want is the ability to just focus on some really big challenges that we face right now, and that's what I have been trying to focus on this entire campaign.

From the October 16 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

GEIST: Let's listen to how Barack Obama handled the question of John Lewis last night.

[begin video clip]

McCAIN: And the fact is, it's gotten pretty tough. And I regret some of the negative aspects of both campaigns. But the fact is that it has taken many turns which I think are unacceptable.

One of them happened just the other day, when a man I admire and respect -- I've written about him -- Congressman John Lewis, an American hero, made allegations that Sarah Palin and I were somehow associated with the worst chapter in American history, segregation, deaths of children in church bombings, George Wallace. That, to me, was so hurtful.

And, Senator Obama, you didn't repudiate those remarks.

OBAMA: I do think that he inappropriately drew a comparison between what was happening there and what had happened during the civil rights movement, and we immediately put out a statement saying that we don't think that comparison is appropriate.

[end video clip]

BRZEZINSKI: OK.

GEIST: How'd he handle that one.

BRZEZINSKI: Actually --

SCARBOROUGH: I think that's stunning -- that he, that John McCain was compared to domestic terrorists and the segregationist who epitomizes the evil of segregation --

BRZEZINSKI: I think, though --

SCARBOROUGH: -- and Barack Obama just said that Lewis drew appropriate comparisons. That's a guy that doesn't want to offend his base. That was shocking to me.

BRZEZINSKI: Well, there was that, possibly, political reasons for it. But I think he's also saying, your candidate -- your campaign started it; that this guy is not someone who even works for me. Meanwhile, your running mate was saying some things that were pretty hateful, and things that were inciteful, potentially --

SCARBOROUGH: But think -- think --

BRZEZINSKI: -- and what was going on at your rallies are an issue as well.

SCARBOROUGH: -- think about this, though. Hold on, though, think about this. How ironic it is that actually Barack Obama had the association with a domestic terrorist, but Barack Obama -- and John Lewis -- actually linked Sarah Palin with domestic terrorists that killed four little girls in Birmingham in a bombing -- that this event occurred before she was even born. So, Obama knows a domestic terrorist. Obama started his campaign in the living room -- his --

PAT BUCHANAN (MSNBC political analyst): Career.

SCARBOROUGH: -- '95 political career in the home of domestic terrorist, and, yet, they're trying to link Sarah Palin with four guys who blew up a church in '63?

BRZEZINSKI: OK, hold on a second. It was an Obama supporter who said that it was George Wallish-like tendencies being raised by the campaign.

SCARBOROUGH: And, and, and, hold on, though. But, Barack Obama --

BRZEZINSKI: Meanwhile, Sarah Palin, hold on --

SCARBOROUH: -- supported that.

BRZEZINSKI: -- Sarah Palin, saying that Barack Obama pals around with terrorists is bad if not worse. You have --

SCARBOROUGH: No, no. It is not even close to being worse.

BRZEZINSKI: -- a supporter who they don't -- who they didn't, or they say -- they didn't sanction, OK. And that supporter is reacting to what Sarah Palin is saying on the campaign trail.

SCARBOROUGH: But Mika -- but, but Mika, last night, Barack Obama just said he drew appropriate comparisons comparing Sarah Palin and John McCain to beasts that blew up four little black girls in a Birmingham church because the South was rising --

BRZEZINSKI: I think we need to hear it again.

SCARBOROUGH: -- he just associated --

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

SCARBOROUGH: He said he drew appropriate comparisons. That was just staggering, but you know --

BUCHANAN: He was, he was --

SCARBOROUGH: -- but hold on second, though.

BRZEZINSKI: Palling around --

SCARBOROUGN: You know, Pat, what the most staggering thing was, that John McCain didn't stop the debate right there and call him on it.

BUCHANAN: I know, I know.

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

BUCHANAN: To drive the point home, are you saying, senator, that we are like the people that incited the bombers in the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham? Is that what you're saying about Sarah Palin?

SCARBOROUGH: Yes.

BUCHANAN: Simply because she said you are a pal of William Ayers, which you have been and you haven't explained?

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    • Author by tommy (October 16, 2008 4:07 pm ET)
         

      This whole John Lewis dustup just made McCain look like a whining crybaby.  So his feelings were hurt, who cares?  For crying out loud, look at the scum that has been screaming the nastiest stuff at McCain/Palin rallies against Obama.  I was glad to hear Obama bring up the "terrorist" and "Kill Him" comments, and when he specifically mentioned "hurt feelings", good for him.

      If McCain was so hurt, then go to John Lewis and ask for an apology, instead of sniveling about it publicly.

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      • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (October 16, 2008 4:13 pm ET)
           

        The irony is that McCain was asked earlier in the campaign what people inspire him.  McCain cynically said John Lewis.  Lewis was not happy that his name was being used to promote a candidate he didn't support.  It stunk of pandering at the time, but in light of Lewis' comments seem all the more comical.

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      • Author by Victor Colorado (October 16, 2008 4:54 pm ET)
           

        Don't mean the following to be snippy, but your opinions on McCain are not very salient, nor do they have anything to do with Joe's misquote of Obama.

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        • Author by tommy (October 16, 2008 5:04 pm ET)
             

          I am indifferent to your snippiness, so meh.

          I made my point about McCain, if you disagree then state why, instead of just being contrary.

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        • Author by DorisRussell (October 16, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
             

          Victor what exactly is your point? Are we not allowed to be critical of John Mccain on these threads?

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    • Author by Victor Colorado (October 16, 2008 4:12 pm ET)
         

      There's no excuse for Joe's misquoting of Obama on this.  He did this to misinform viewers.  Plain and simple.

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      • Author by thomp.steve9098 (October 16, 2008 4:17 pm ET)
           

        I missed the debate last night, due to celebrating the hometown Phillies triumph . . . but caught Morning Joe this morning.  I thought he must have misquoted BO or just stumbled over his own words, but nobody on the set even corrected him . . .

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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 16, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
             

          Joe Scarborough is a clown...

          This is a great one here by Media Matters.

          Take a good hard look, Mr. and Mrs. America.  Joe is your "Media." 

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        • Author by worrierking (October 16, 2008 4:38 pm ET)
             

          You made the right choice last night. Your Maverick would have broken your heart like the Phillies did mine in '64.

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          • Author by thomp.steve9098 (October 16, 2008 4:41 pm ET)
               

            Broad Street was wild last night after the game . . .  I've bad feeling though that the Phil's are setting us up, yet again, for a big disappointment

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (October 16, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
           

        Desperation has set in...

        and Joe is just as desperate as Sen. George McCain.

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    • Author by FDR_democrat (October 16, 2008 4:22 pm ET)
         

      Thanks, MM for pointing out this baldest of misrepresentations on Fox News. It's just amazing, and you guys are heroes.

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      • Author by thomp.steve9098 (October 16, 2008 4:38 pm ET)
           

        Don't slander the Fair and Balanced Network.

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        • Author by wzwriter (October 16, 2008 5:53 pm ET)
             

          Don't slander the Fair and Balanced Network.

          No one HAS to slander Faux News.  They slander themselves every day they're in operation.  But that had nothing to do with this story - "Morning Joe" is on MSNBC.

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    • Author by wookie (October 16, 2008 4:29 pm ET)
         
      Isn't the whole "getting offended over something no one said" thing a Hannity trademark? Joe will owe a royalty.
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    • Author by Slade (October 16, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
         

      I just sent an email to Morning Joe about this.  Recommend others do the same.

      It's pretty clear he mis-heard Obama.  I don't think it was intentional.

      Am I being naive?

      I think he may issue clarification tomorrow.

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      • Author by Victor Colorado (October 16, 2008 4:40 pm ET)
           

        It was perhaps the central moment of the debate and it was covered by CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News after the debate.  How anyone could gather that Obama thought Lewis' comparison was somehow appropriate could not have been paying attention last night.  Maybe Joe was asleep by 9:30 since he had to get up early for work today.  If so, he should leave the debate analysis to those who watched the debate and paid attention to what was said.

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        • Author by Slade (October 16, 2008 5:17 pm ET)
             

          I guess I'm giving him benefit of the doubt.  But I see your point. 

          This kind of reminds me of the old Gilda Radner skit on SNL--"oh, nevermind".

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          • Author by Victor Colorado (October 16, 2008 5:23 pm ET)
               

            I see your point too.  Truth is, my email was more benefit of the doubt as well.  Perhaps he'll correct his mistake tomorrow.

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      • Author by jonesjax2374 (October 16, 2008 7:49 pm ET)
           

        I think emailing the program for a complete retraction and apology is an excellent idea.  Its possible he misheard him - but ALL of them misheard?   Please send link and thank you.

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    • Author by praa9497 (October 16, 2008 4:41 pm ET)
         
      Why is anyone focused on what Obama never said? Rep. Lewis is his own person and said what he thought. Obama did repudiate it, made it clear that he thought it went too far, and left it at that. How about what McCain/Palin have said, which has clearly bordered on inciting racial hatred? Why aren't more people concerned about that? Representative Lewis was warning those two against playing the race card, which they have been dangerously flirting with, using plenty of code words and insinuations. And doesn't anyone else find it breathtaking when a supposedly serious candidate for Vice President of the United States of America refuses to call the audience members at her rallies on their vitriol and hatred? McCain at least called for people to step back from that, but Sarah Palin is contemptible, despicable and an insult to every American.
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    • Author by mk3872 (October 16, 2008 4:47 pm ET)
         
      WTF, where is the MSNBC correction or the outrage over this nut (Scarborough) intentionally or unintentionally misquoting right from the video?? How can this kind of crap happen? Nobody else paid enough attention to correct that? OMG
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    • Author by SaddamHussein (October 16, 2008 4:47 pm ET)
         
      When will MSNBC pull the plug on Scarborough and his misinformation show?
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    • Author by DanEng25 (October 16, 2008 4:57 pm ET)
         

      This is kinda stupid. I think it's pretty hard to hear what Obama said, but if i actually was saying "drew appropriate comparisons" than the statement are totally without meaning. Even if you hear it wrong or Obama miss-spoke it's pretty clear what he meant. If yoy are really sertain that Obama actually said that it was appropriate, the discussion should be " why is Obama saying sentences without meaning?"

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    • Author by shaggles (October 16, 2008 6:44 pm ET)
         
      Are these people all deaf? Even Brezniwhatsit, who is trying to defend Obama, doesn't seem to pick-up on the fact that he said "inappropriately". Maybe they think inappropriately is like inflammable.
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    • Author by robrob (October 16, 2008 10:50 pm ET)
         

      Misquote all they want, the election is as good as over already. GOP = buh-bye!

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    • Author by wzwriter (October 17, 2008 11:41 am ET)
         
      I find it shocking and staggering that MSNBC still has this clown on their payroll......
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