MSNBC, CNN anchors baselessly suggested Obama is prematurely "measuring the drapes" for the White House
SUMMARY: MSNBC's Alex Witt and CNN's T.J. Holmes each suggested that Sen. Barack Obama is prematurely "measuring the drapes" for the White House. In fact, Presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, and Jimmy Carter all planned for a White House transition months before the election, and Sen. John McCain has also reportedly made transition plans.
During an October 18 interview with Obama supporter Maria Cardona on MSNBC Live, anchor Alex Witt said, "Let's talk about reports, though, that Senator [Barack] Obama's team recently held a large meeting to discuss plans for a possible new administration." Witt then asked Cardona, "Do you think that Senator Obama risks looking like he's, you know, measuring the drapes just a little too early there in the East Wing?" Similarly, on CNN Saturday Morning, anchor T.J. Holmes stated, "[Sen.] Joe Biden, Barack Obama his running mate, they're both in Missouri, actually. Their transition team already meeting about postelection plans." Co-anchor Betty Nguyen responded, "Oh. They are moving forward and quickly, apparently." Holmes continued, "Measuring the drapes, as some have said." Later, during a discussion with CNN political editor Mark Preston on CNN Newsroom, Holmes similarly stated, "Also this morning, we're reporting that [Obama is] working with his transition team for what will happen postelection and whatnot. He's been accused of measuring the drapes. So are there signs in his campaign that they are just trying to run out the clock, or are they still being pretty aggressive out there?"
In fact, it is not unusual or inappropriate for presidential nominees to plan for a presidential transition, as the Obama campaign is reportedly doing. As Media Matters for America has noted, Presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, and Jimmy Carter all planned for a White House transition months before the election. Indeed, Sen. John McCain has also reportedly made transition plans. A September 12 Time magazine article reported that "[a] prominent Washington lobbyist who has worked for every Republican President since Richard Nixon has been tapped by the McCain campaign to conduct a study in preparation for the presidential transition should John McCain win the election, according to sources familiar with the process."
Additionally, Witt teased the MSNBC segment with Cardona by stating, "The GOP is hitting Barack Obama hard on his 'redistribute the wealth' comments in the last debate," as on-screen text read, "'Redistribute' how exactly?"

During the segment, Witt said, "Actually, you know, I misspoke. That wasn't during the debate. It was actually to Joe the Plumber that that statement was made." However, Obama did not use the word "redistribute" to define his economic plans during the October 15 presidential debate or during his conversation with Samuel "Joe" Wurzelbacher ("Joe the Plumber").
From the 10 a.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on October 18:
WITT: The GOP is hitting Barack Obama hard on his "redistribute the wealth" comments in the last debate. So what did he really mean by that? We're going to ask Obama supporter and former senior Clinton adviser Maria Cardona about that here on MSNBC, the place for politics. Wow, those guys were good, huh?
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WITT: So for a look right now from the Obama campaign, here with us is Maria Cardona, former senior Clinton adviser and now Obama supporter. And a good morning to you.
CARDONA: Hey, Alex, great to be here again.
WITT: And I'm glad you're here, Maria. Let's talk about Senator Obama's opponents, who've been talking a lot about a comment that the senator made during Wednesday's debate. Let's take a listen to it.
GOV. SARAH PALIN [video clip]: Senator Obama said that he wants to spread the wealth, and he wants government to take your money and decide how to best redistribute it, according to his priorities. And Joe suggested that that sounded a little bit like socialism.
WITT: Actually, you know, I misspoke. That wasn't during the debate. It was actually to Joe the Plumber that that statement was made. However, that was a reference to the now-famous Joe the Plumber -- or infamous, depending on whom you ask -- and some other --
CARDONA: Right.
WITT: -- small-business owners. Does Senator Obama, do you think, regret at all saying that he wants to spread the wealth around?
CARDONA: You know what, Alex? I think this whole issue about Joe the Plumber has become a little bit of a caricature of a real voter, Mr. Welzelbacher [sic], who is worried about what's going on in this economy. He's a real voter, the same as hundreds of millions of real voters out there who are really looking for real solutions to the real problems that they face.
And what Senator Obama has been saying is that to 95 percent of middle-class and working-class voters in this country, he will give real tax relief. And to 98 percent of the small businesses in this country, including Mr. Wulzelbacher's [sic], if he is going to buy that business that he talked about, he will give a tax cut.
He will also give $3,000 of a tax credit to help them hire employees. He will give them a 50 percent tax premium to help them buy health care for their employees. And he will eliminate completely capital gains taxes.
So under Senator Obama's plan, Mr. Welzelbacher [sic] will actually fair very, very well, as will the majority of working-class, middle-class voters in this country and the majority of small businesses. That is the underscoring theme of Senator Obama's campaign, and it is why the majority of Americans are responding to him.
WITT: OK, I guess I can't ask any more on that one. Let's talk about reports, though, that Senator Obama's team recently held a large meeting to discuss plans for a possible new administration. Do you think that Senator Obama risks looking like he's, you know, measuring the drapes just a little too early there in the East Wing?
CARDONA: No, I don't think so. And I think that we need to take Senator Obama at his word. He has been saying very publicly, telling his campaign, telling Democrats across the country, and telling all of his supporters that not only include Democrats, that we cannot sit on our laurels, that we need to make sure that we now double down. We cannot get cocky. These are his words. He talked about just two words, reminding everybody what happened in New Hampshire.
So this is a time for us to continue to focus on the -- Senator Obama's message of bringing middle-class tax relief, talking about the fact that he will be a fighter for the middle class. He will wake up every single day in the White House, trying to figure out how to bring relief to the middle class, who are the ones that have been really hurt during the eight years of failed Republican policies. This is no time to rest, he has said that. And I think that he's going to continue to make sure these last 17 days in the campaign he's going to work incredibly hard. Seventeen days is 17 lifetimes in politics, Alex. And we're going to continue to make sure we work very, very hard for every single vote on November 4th.
From the October 18 edition of CNN Saturday Morning:
HOLMES: Joe Biden, Barack Obama his running mate, they're both in Missouri, actually. Their transition team already meeting about postelection plans.
NGUYEN: Oh. They are moving forward and quickly, apparently.
HOLMES: Measuring the drapes, as some have said. The election nears, the candidates are certainly firing more attacks at each other. And yesterday, John McCain criticized Obama's plan to raise taxes for people making more than $250,000. Obama, meanwhile, accused McCain of planning to cut Medicare funding to pay for his health-care proposal.
From the 10 a.m. ET hour of CNN Newsroom on October 18:
HOLMES: Also this morning, we're reporting that he's working with his transition team for what will happen postelection and whatnot. He's been accused of measuring the drapes. So are there signs in his campaign that they are just trying to run out the clock, or are they still being pretty aggressive out there?
PRESTON: No, they're absolutely being aggressive. We know that Barack Obama is in Missouri today campaigning with a couple of events. He'll head into North Carolina tomorrow, where, of course, John McCain is today.
Look, they can't rest on their laurels right now. They are up in the national polls. They are winning in most of the battleground states. But there are still 17 days left, and let's not forget back in the summer of 2007, T.J., John McCain's campaign was left for dead, and he rallied to win the Republican nomination. There's still enough time left.















The media had better wake up. Whoever is elected on November 4 had better be able to hit the ground running.
We haven't hit the bottom yet and whoever is president they're going to have one hell of a mess to try to clean up.
Any candidate who isn't making plans for day one doesn't deserve to win.
Not only that, but our esteemed president is making plans for a world summit with foreign leaders and who knows what kind of bomb he is leaving for his successoor ? I hope those leaders know GW is a lame duck and probably not worth the paper those deals are printed on.
You are right. We know obama, should he win, will just tear up any treaty he doesn't like. nafta for example.
NAFTA should be reexamined. It was good for Mexicans who now build Ford's, but horrible for America.
I'm surprised they haven't jumped on Obama's subcampaign of getting people to vote early.
"W-w-why if I'd've known that when I cast my vote! --...."
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I'm surprised they haven't jumped on Obama's subcampaign of getting people to vote early.
most likely because there ius no " subcampaign "
bush tried to measure the drapes, but he ran out of fingers and toes.
That's Dr. Strangelove funny!
Ooooh, drape-gate!
Future white house residents might have to auction their drapes on e-bay to scrape up some lunch money, considering the deficit and money pit bail-out, Iraq & Afghanistan spending, future collapses, etc. Meanwhile the trivia filled media spouts off stream of unconsciousness nonsense about nothing.
There once was a man named Barack
He talks the talk, AND walks the walk
He is measuring drapes
While he plans our escape
From the big blunder we call Iraq
Hey news media. Mr. Obama can multi task :-0)
Grampy wheezes to blow the drapes down
He smirks and he blinks like a clown
The clock keeps on ticking
He's due for a licking
Hope the voters are smarter this round.
McCain must be really upset, like these were the Drapes of Wrath or something...
Drapes of Wrath...I love it. Should McBush put a freeze on any drape buying in his 8 homes?
In between Grampy's wild rants
He's got enough to do changing his pants
Between interior decorating
And unexpected urinating,
How far can he plan in advance?
Now urine trouble, Col...
I got an obscenity flag for p*ssed off, but I wrote something like --- don't get p'ed off at my steady stream of nonsense, and void it if you want.
I also mentioned that the fake solon troll is posting under my name (obviously, I spanked him better than anybody else)on the Sunday threads.
I really wish Jasonl33 had been able to spend as much time with real friends or girls as he has with his keyboard, it may have kept him from this sad little parasite thimg he has going on.
This again? Didn't we go through this already a couple of months or so ago?
I also love how they put "redistribute" in quotes. Doesn't that usually mean that it's, you know, a quote? I guess maybe they were quoting the guy who wrote the caption.
"redistribute" is in the top 10 of wingnut buzzwords. It's been connected to Communism, and successfully used to convince working Americans that welfare recipients and illegal aliens are stealing their money.
While those average Americans are busy getting angry at Mexicans and imaginary welfare queens, the GOP can quietly take their money and give it to their friends.
Unfortunately, almost half of those Americans are dumb enough to vote GOP to keep their money away from those freeloading Mexicans and poor people.
I heard a minister, who worked for the poor, being grilled by some right-wing radio host. The host asked why the minister wanted to redistribute the wealth to help those who have so little.
The minister answered that the way he sees it is that he's not attempting to redistribute wealth, but he is trying to redistribute poverty.
What would Jesus do?
I find it remarkable how many people have this knee-jerk reaction to the idea that money can't be redistributed. We seem to have what I call "exectutive worship" in this country. Of course people who are successful and make decisions should get more money - as long as they do a good job, and their pay is within reason. Why do people who are getting shafted at their jobs have such a problem with the idea that they should get more, at the expense of someone who gets a 20 million dollar bonus? The executives can lead a pampered life with much less than that, while the rank-and-file could use the extra money. It's sort of a Joe-the-Plumber attitude:if I were an executive I wouldn't want any limits on my income. It's greed based on pure fantasy, combined with an irrational fear of a misdefined concept of socialism.
...he's not attempting to redistribute wealth, but he is trying to redistribute poverty.
King, while you undersand that, and I do, and most humans do, as distributing the burden of poverty over a decent society, that's red meat for the wingnuts. One of the top tier talking points is that having the rich pitch in is "making everybody equally miserable".
It's what millions of "Joe the Plumbers" have been suckered into thinking; that taxing those making 10 or 100 times what Sam the laborer makes will push Sam into the ghetto.
On the upside, it looks like the stoopid vote may be less significant this election.
As most everyone knows the media is in the bag for McCain. Why doesn't it occur to republicans that if their leaders have this governance thing down pat they should not have to lie, cheat, and steal to remain in power. If conservative political philosophy is such a great idea why have its proponents failed America in the wars that it chooses, the foreign policies it implements, the rescue of a city, the economic theory they promote, the social changes they would force down our throats, the propaganda they mislead with, the privatization of anything they can get away with, but most importantly display such contempt and disrespect for Americans and expect to get away with it?
Their prejudices, superstitions, ideology, and more important their practices prove the current leadership to be morally, inspirationally, and pragmatically bankrupt. An important reason why they have such a terrible and tragic time attempting to lead is that at the core of the current leadership is a criminal consciousness that justifies the most heinous acts against human beings, their rights, freedom, and dignity. Their cynical view of mankind perpetuates callousness toward the rule of law, and disrespect for the principles of a democratic republic.
When they say they are fighting socialism, they are actually fighting against fairness. When they try to cause people to misunderstand liberty it is because they are at war with our freedom. When they lie about supporting a free market, what they actually want is the absolute right, without consequence, to exploit everyone they choose.
I agree with you
And I think that the reason so many "leaning towards" republican voters are now voting for Obama, is because McCain did not change the party. I would have liked to see McCain stand up and say, "certain elements in the GOP want me to move this way, I have told them that I will not wh@r* myself out for thier votes." (or something like that).
Throw the radical social anti-progressive elements out. Show us that he believes in a real economic plan (not Reaganomics or Bushanomics, the speading twice as much, while claiming to downsize government, massive tax breaks for the rich, etc. theory of economics).
I think the electorial polling maps would look a lot different than they do now (a lot more red). But far too many republican party leaders are disciples of Strauss right now. And while he had some insights into theories of propaganda and manipulating the general public, his views do not match those of the majority of Americans (in fact they match the views of Osama bin Ladin). I guess what I'm saying is, maybe the GOP should remove those members who believe in the fiction of the current agenda.
A great wish and a thoughtful analysis. The question for the Repubs if they lose will be: where will they evolve to? It will have a basis in the contentiousness they will propagate if Senator Obama gets elected. Will it be the constant attack mode a la Clinton. Or will they truly put "country first" and allow for cooperation. In my lifetime the Repubs attitude toward cooperation is that it is a sign of weakness, thus the rise of Karl Rove.
Obama: let's not get cocky.
Right wing: that uppity <insert word here> is measuring the drapes!
OMG! Now republicans are beating the crap out of canvassers for Obama. Real classy act you created, McCain.
http://www.wisn.com/politics/17754232/detail.html
Thank you GOP for giving us the opportunity to get to know your base's ugly mind. During coverage of Mickey's campaign friday I heard the angry mob. Their singular and group voice will get more exposure. So far the average american seems replused by it. Not alot of independent media work this time arround. The traditional bankrolls for it find themselves 20-30% less than they did a few weeks ago.
An Obama administration looks very likely today, so these folks look to be frustrated after the election. You can say many things about them, formost in my mind this that they are not good losers.
OMG! Now republicans are beating the crap out of canvassers for Obama. Real classy act you created, McCain.
Snoopy, unfortunately, this is nothing. It's going to get really, really ugly.
My daughters asked that I stop wearing my "Obama Momma" t-shirt and buttons. There afraid some nut may hurt me. Little do they know, I carry pepper spray and a stun gun in my purse. Bring it on!
Hope you never meet any of these goons Pearlene. If you do, I trust you do it up right. And a futile wish to be there. If for nothing else but to hold your coat.
:)
I suppose you missed the female McCain supporter beaten with her own sign.
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/obama-supporter-assaults-female-mccain-volunteer-in-new-york/
Anybody else remember pajamasmedia. They were created to pay people to be a conservative presence on the web. The story is short on details. Wonder why?
As they were peacefully talking to each other,
Eweston, I've never heard of these folks.
I seriously doubt they were "peacefully talking to each other" as the article says.
Some McCain supporter seem only capable of yelling out the code word of the week. This week, the word is socialist, which, when yelled in one's ear, would cause even the most sane person to break that damn stick and beat the moron yelling "socialist" upside the head.
HEY MSNBC, NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN AND FOX NEWS WILL YOU BE TALKING ABOUT A REAL HEROS ON YOUR SHOW AND ON YOUR NEWS WEB SITES 24/7 LIKE YOU DID THE SO CALLED JOE THE PLUMBER? THAT REAL HERO WHO IS NO LONGER WITH US KAREEM RASHAD SUITAN THE MAN WHO MR. POWELL WAS TALKING ABOUT TODAY WHO AS A MUSLIM LOST HIS LIFE FIGHTING FOR OUR COUNTRY? IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE PICTURE OF HIS MOTHER AT HIS GRAVE SITE JUST GO TO THE HUFFINGTON POST!!!
You really should get a real ISP and upgrade from WebTV.
Very coherent post, Netsez.Really.
Some MSM are obviously Pro Obama/Biden. Some MSM are obviously Pro McCain/Palin.
More print media has come out in support of Obama.
Fox is all McCain all the time.
CNN is more positive toward McCain than it is towards Obama (maybe 75% M/P and 25% O/B)
MSNBC is probably 40% McCain/60% Obama (McCain gets the daytime boradcasts/Obama gets the nighttime broadcasts)
I'm still waiting for a link to the study that MMfA did which claimed newspaper endorsements were an indication of media bias. When did they do that?
I remember when Gore was running and progressives and liberals where in the streets protesting in the thousands in NY , against Bush and the Iraq Occupation , Witt interviewed one person and just happended to be a NADER supporter , out of the 99 % Gore supporters she finds virtually the only NADER supporter , who bashed Gore , how absurd and fixed .
As a joe six pack HUNGRY for information and SERIOUS news , it ticks me off big time that we are bombarded with the same formula and agenda from so called " news" networks .
1. repeat ever right wing accusation , no matter HOW abrurd or incorrect it is . ie Flag Pin , Hair cuts , " is he black enough " " terrorists links " and inject it in the news in form of some fabricated discussion , between the same tired faces you see on Cable every day , represented by only people from the establishment .
2. When McCain makes specious accustations and distortions or out right LIES, frame as a tactic and " will it work " ..is it a good move " blah blah blah. And NEVER condem his ads or comments .
3. And if BIDEN was found guilty of " ABUSE of POWER " you see it as a top story every day , yet some how Cable and networks seem to have ignored it completely or down played and limited the coverage of the SCANDAL so much, if you blinked you'd miss the whole story . " - Kahoneez
"Gore running" and "protestors against Bush and Iraq Occupation"?
Gore ran in 2000 and the occupation started after 2002.
Can you clarify what you're trying to say.
They were smart protesters who anticipated Bush's Iraq fetish in advance. :)
The comment about drapes doesn't bother me. It just proves the Repubs know they're screwed.
"The Nice Democrats," starring me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYxqSipov5E