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Wash. Post misrepresented Obama's remark to SF Chronicle editorial board about coal

November 03, 2008 1:05 pm ET

SUMMARY: The Washington Post distorted a quote by Sen. Barack Obama in reporting that Sen. John McCain "ma[de] fun of something Obama had told a reporter, 'The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster.' " In fact, Obama said during a January 2008 interview: "The only thing that I've said, with a respect to coal -- I haven't been some coal booster -- what I have said is that, for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter, as opposed to saying, if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it. You know, that I think is the right approach."

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In a November 3 Washington Post article, staff writers Shailagh Murray, Juliet Eilperin, and Robert Barnes cropped a quote by Sen. Barack Obama during a January 17 meeting with the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board to misrepresent what Obama had said about coal. Murray, Eilperin, and Barnes reported that during a speech the previous day, Sen. John McCain "ma[de] fun of something Obama had told a reporter, 'The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster.' " The article went on to quote McCain stating, "My friends, I've been a coal booster, and it's going to create jobs, and we're going to export coal to other countries and we are going to create hundreds of thousands of jobs." In fact, during the Chronicle meeting, Obama said: "The only thing that I've said, with a respect to coal -- I haven't been some coal booster -- what I have said is, that, for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter, as opposed to saying, if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it. You know, that I think is the right approach."

From Obama's January 17 meeting with the San Francisco Chronicle editorial board:

EDITORIAL WRITER: Senator, you introduced a bill promoting coal-conducted fuels, and then you said you'd only support them if they emitted fewer greenhouse gases in gasoline. Now, all the scientific evidence points to coal being dirtier than pretty much anything else, so how are you going to score your support for coal with the need to fight global warming?

OBAMA: Well, I've already - I've already done it. You know, I voted against the Clear Skies bill -- in fact, I was the deciding vote. Despite the fact that I'm a coal state, and that half of my state thought I'd thoroughly betrayed them, because I think clean air is critical, and global warming is critical. But, this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that, right now, we are getting a lot of our energy from coal, and China's building its coal-powered plant once a week. So, what we have to do, then, is we have to figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon, and how can we sequester that carbon and capture it? If we can't, then, you know, we're gonna still be working on alternatives. But --

EDITORIAL WRITER: Alternatives including coal, or what?

OBAMA: Let me sort of describe my overall policy. I mean, what I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is more - that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there. I was the first call for a 100 percent auction on the cap-and-trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases was emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted-down caps that are placed -- imposed every year.

So, if somebody wants to build a coal power plant, they can. It's just that, it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that's being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches. The only thing that I've said, with a respect to coal -- I haven't been some coal booster -- what I have said is, that, for us to take coal off the table as a ideological matter, as opposed to saying, if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it. You know, that I think is the right approach.

The same with respect to nuclear. Right now, we don't know how to store nuclear waste wisely, and we don't know how to deal with some of the safety issues that remain, and so it's wildly expensive to pursue nuclear energy. But, I tell you what, if we could figure out how to store it safely, then I think most of us would say that might be a pretty good deal. The point is, if we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, then we can allow the market to determine, and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue what's the best approach to take, as opposed to us saying, at the outset, here are the winners that we're picking, and maybe we pick wrong, and maybe we pick right.

From the Post article:

Although McCain's pitch to voters in his final days focuses primarily on the theme that he is more experienced and would manage the economy better than Obama, he has also increasingly shifted to the right in recent weeks as he courts voters in swing states.

In one of the clearest indications of that move, the candidate who once spoke repeatedly of the need to curb climate change now devotes his speeches to touting the need to boost oil and coal production, two of the biggest contributors to global warming, while campaigning in those coal-producing states.

Indeed, the one new line he unveiled Sunday -- which his aides said he would use several times during his seven-state swing in the run-up to Election Day -- was to make fun of something Obama had told a reporter, "The only thing I've said with respect to coal, I haven't been some coal booster."

Speaking before a crowd in Scranton, McCain said, "My friends, I've been a coal booster, and it's going to create jobs, and we're going to export coal to other countries and we are going to create hundreds of thousands of jobs."

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    • Author by magnolialover (November 03, 2008 1:18 pm ET)
         

      Hey, McCain. Don't look now, but you and Obama actually agree on the uses of coal. It's too bad that the United States is the Saudi Arabia of coal, but used correctly, it can be a good thing.

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (November 03, 2008 2:16 pm ET)
           

        McCain supports coal, but only if it is unsafe and harmful to the environment.

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        • Author by djasper2761 (November 03, 2008 2:43 pm ET)
             

          mickey c. the bologne pony (formerly a maverick) does not really believe NOX and CO2 causes global warming. This hyperboli is just part of his flip-flopping bologne pony rhetoric. I don't even know the real mickey c. anymore except that his word is worth less than an opinion by shyawn inshannity

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      • Author by MissDee (November 04, 2008 1:35 am ET)
           

        It's amazing how you people ignore what you dont' want to hear.Have any of you actually heard what Obama said in San Francisco, or are you just taking the left wing, Main Stream Nutbags Corporation summary of it? Obama has said that he won't invest in clean coal in lieu of technologies that are 10 years out, and that he will see to it that "if they want to build a coal plant they'll go bankrupt".

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ

        McCain wants to invest in clean coal and realizes that we need to produce all the domestic energy we can from all availabel sources. . Joe Biden has said "NO COAL".. Obama talks out of both sides of his face...now .. is this Obama saying one thing in PA and another in San Francisco again? So now they're "desperately clinging to guns, bibles AND coal in his estimation. Let's get rid of all those jobs in the coal belt- then he can make sure the underclass is even larger and a looming depression even greater. yeah.. two faced prevaricator that he is.

        Where do you think is the primary fuel source for electricity in America today? It's coal. Take that away, don't invest in nuclear plants to replace them and we'll be right where the Dem's want us to be- a third world country that cant' even light its own cities. Sounds like Baghdad of four years ago to me.

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        • Author by seahawks123 (November 04, 2008 2:04 am ET)
             

          We read the transcript.  MMFA provides it.

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        • Author by djasper2761 (November 04, 2008 11:22 am ET)
             

          What is a "you people"? I live in coal country (w. Ky.) Perhaps if you could stop smoking your own poo for a couple of minutes you might be able to comprehend this: If all viable forms of energy were "on-line" the fair market value of each one of these forms of energy would determine which one was most frequently used. The most expensive and dirty would not be used unless we mandate the gvt. step in and control energy use and this would be communism/big brother state control of energy. I realize nuance is NOT typically an ability a right wingers brain is able to utilize (billybob o'really and shyawn inshannity are examples) but keep this in mind I grew up in SoCal (the real world) and quite frankly your long winded vituperative diatribe has no point. Last nit inshannity and his looney right wing guests hucksterbee and neuter dingrich said Obama will bankrupt the coal industry. I am going: That IS NOT what Obama said! Lie, twist, distort and make shiite up and then you can call yourself a good repukelican, a patriot, an America lover and an all around good citizen. Clue: repukelicans are hypocritical, lieing goons and they need to be banished into the night along with other parrasitical diseases like small pox, dingh feaver, cholera, polio, spongiformencephalopothy and copraphagichebraphrenia. The last two are what you and other right wingers are suffering from. Euthinasia is the only answer so go jump off a cliff.

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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 03, 2008 1:32 pm ET)
         

      e-mail to WAPO

      11/3/08

      You know it’s pretty sad.  Here we are on the Election eve and you people completely distorted and smeared Obama—when you cropped his quote about “clean coal.”  Completely misrepresented what he said.

      Media Matters has the full story.  Even on Election eve you people can’t stop with the lies, can you? ….Pathetic

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      • Author by stevensm (November 03, 2008 2:22 pm ET)
           

        And the same misrepresentations with regards to Obama and coal took place on FAUX News this morning too. The F&F stooges and right wing pundits were spinning it to death. Never once did the viewers get the whole truth.

        The desperation grows and the FAUX News talking heads are willing to do anything, even lie to the viewers, to stop Obama.

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        • Author by djasper2761 (November 03, 2008 2:49 pm ET)
             

          faucks news has been lieing to the viewers since it's inception. They have a multitude of the "walking dead-between-the-ears that beleve every word. Joeseph Goebbels would be proud. Didn't he predict faucks news in the doctrines of the 1000 year reich?

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          • Author by MissDee (November 04, 2008 1:38 am ET)
               

            Wow.. you people really ARE deluded. You can't even see what's before your faces when they present the entire clip of what he said. And you have the nerve to do a Nazi comparison as far as delusional, blind loyalty to a party line? talk about the ultimate in hypocrisy or what?!

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            • Author by seahawks123 (November 04, 2008 2:05 am ET)
                 

              MMFA provided the whole transcript.  Simple as that.  Unfortunately, Obama speaks in a manner that requires comprehension above a 2nd grade level.  For those of you below that, I guess you are left behind.

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              • Author by MissDee (November 04, 2008 6:20 am ET)
                   

                Unfortunately you are right, in that he needs "special comprehension"- meaning that everything he says is carefully craftdr to allow later evasion, diversion, and deflection away from what he actually intends to do. I'm afraid that's pretty much at the same level that any malevolent megalomaniac of the past who creates a cult following has engaged in with their rhetoric. I'm just sorry that you are all the ones who can't see it for what it is.

                I'm holding my faith in the average American that they can see through all his BS and lies and make the right decision on Nov 4th to reject this sort of constant revision of what he says. Obama knows when he or one of his surrogates crosses the line from deception into truth. It's why Joe the Plumber had to be investigated and discredited when Obama showed his true plans in answering a direct question, Damage control has to occur when Murtha calls his district votors racists and rednecks, or when Joe Biden puts his foot in his mouth and suddenly corrects the liberal definition of "Middle class" or states that Obama will bring an international incident down on our heads in six months, and that he'll screw up the handling of it.  God knows why none of you have tapped into Barney Frank's latest revelations... all that except that you have been blinded by the Kool-aid the cult of Obama is slinging out.

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                • Author by seahawks123 (November 04, 2008 1:05 pm ET)
                     

                  Sorry he talks above your head.  Luckily, there are enough people who are smart that he will be elected.  For the rest of you guys, I guess you are just out luck.  We've tried a dummy in the White House for the last eight years and it didn't work.  Let some intellectuals have a crack at it.

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                • Author by djasper2761 (November 04, 2008 3:12 pm ET)
                     

                  I saw Joe being "interviewed" by shyawn inshannity and the guy is a dumb ass and did NOT know what he was talking about and didn't even know how to correctly say the BS he was uttering. What he said had absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with anything Obama ever said. It was made up crapola with inshannity front loading his pie hole. Utter nonsensical BS. These people are on a different planet speaking a different language mumbling about nothing in particular. EXACTLY the same esotiric nonsequiters with very bad English. Much like rap "music".

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            • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 04, 2008 10:51 am ET)
                 

              MissDee, you seem to be slacking off on the "LOL"s. Not that anybody's going to take your comments seriously, but you may be giving the impression that you don't consider yourself a joke.

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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 04, 2008 10:55 am ET)
                   

                And, if you consider anything above 2nd grade level comprehension "special", you may be underestimating the average American from your below average point of view.

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            • Author by djasper2761 (November 04, 2008 1:06 pm ET)
                 

              see my post above

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        • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 03, 2008 4:38 pm ET)
             

          Deborah Howell, Ombudsman for the Washington Post,

          Just e-mailed me, and said she is going to check it out.

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    • Author by Brian in FL (November 03, 2008 1:33 pm ET)
         

      I see Drudge is picking this up as his anti-Obama headline du jour. It's right above the other "big story" of Obama wiping his mouth with his middle finger, which Drudge is pretending is Obama flipping off McCain.

      Drudge is in complete meltdown at this point. I love it.

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (November 03, 2008 1:46 pm ET)
           

        Right now, Drudge has a screen grab of Obama up as his feature photo.  Obama is scratching his mouth with his middle finger, so it looks like he is inadvertently making an obscene gesture.

        The headline?  Obama Congratulates McCain

        So, has Drudge officially jumped the shark?  Will he go to work for the Enquirer when people stop checking his 'website'?

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        • Author by magnolialover (November 03, 2008 1:52 pm ET)
             

          Drudge jumped the shark a long time ago if you ask me. He's never been any good at anything, other than linking to other people's work.

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          • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (November 03, 2008 2:12 pm ET)
               

            I don't think McCain can fully extend his middle finger, after all he was tortured as a POW in Vietnam.

            Clearly, though, Drudge has no sympathy for Americans with disabilities.

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            • Author by djasper2761 (November 03, 2008 2:54 pm ET)
                 

              mickey c. flipped America off whe he picked palin and his nose. If mickey c. were to get that buggar his IQ qwould drop.

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          • Author by pete592 (November 04, 2008 1:47 am ET)
               

            He sure as hell isn't any good at web design.

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 03, 2008 1:58 pm ET)
             

          I think Drudge had a pretty good scam for a few years there, but it looks like he'll be undone by his own goals-- the overexposure and citing as a source that was designed for his agenda eventually let enough people see him that some told the truth. He's a hack.

          The funny part about Obama's coal quote is the uncropped version could have been used just as successfully with the wingnut base. He had similar remarks about nuclear, that it wasn't off the table if the waste could be handled responsibly.This was derided by the rightys as a cop-out (Hugh Hewitt, for one).

          The idea that you would think something through, make sure you can do it safely and responsibly, maybe even have an exit strategy.... I guess that's sissy stuff. 

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      • Author by JLyons (November 03, 2008 2:17 pm ET)
           

        Drudge is a right wing ahole.

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        • Author by djasper2761 (November 03, 2008 2:55 pm ET)
             

          drudge is sludge (the treatment plant kind)

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          • Author by commonsenseliberal (November 03, 2008 4:13 pm ET)
               

            It's funny.  Here in SF, there's a proposition on the ballot to rename one of the sewer treatment plants here from 'Oceanview Water Treatment Plant' to the 'G.W. Bush Waste Treatment Facility'. 

            So, do I want GWB's name attached to this facility, or shall I vote to keep the name the same...?

            Damn, what a dilemma...

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            • Author by djasper2761 (November 03, 2008 4:30 pm ET)
                 

              I heard about this. I think they shoud do it. I am an artist/signpainter and am doing a small one up in this ltlle podunk town in w. ky. A friend is going to take a picture of it with the treatment plant in the background. I am making cards up with the image and passing it out to everyone. I am also going to try and get it on the ballot here. How 'bout the dick cheaney paddle tank?  the codosleeza rice settling tank etc. Re there enough treatment plants for all of them? bunch of scumbags

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            • Author by MissDee (November 04, 2008 1:41 am ET)
                 

               Bet ya voted to dedicate a whips'n'chains brothel to Bill Clinton and a bath house to Barney Frank though. LOL

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              • Author by seahawks123 (November 04, 2008 2:06 am ET)
                   

                ...and the MissDee Memorial Institute for the Mentally Impaired.

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                • Author by djasper2761 (November 04, 2008 3:18 pm ET)
                     

                                                           Noe entering

                                                           the Miss Dee

                                                    Sewage treatment plant.

                                           caution: republicans being processed

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    • Author by ajzito (November 03, 2008 1:57 pm ET)
         

      This quote cropping malady afflicts a lot of reporters.  It is hard to believe it is not motivated by at least unconcious bias.  Friends of mine who are reporters plead deadline pressure, need for brevity, etc.  Some claim readers won't read a quote more than two column lines long.  Excuses, excuses.  If you can't file a story that doesn't mislead or outright lie to readers, why file one at all?  This WAPO story shows incompetence or hostility or both.

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 03, 2008 1:57 pm ET)
         

      Give Drudge a couple of eggs and he'll be in Heaven for a long time to come.

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    • Author by puttforever4682 (November 03, 2008 2:25 pm ET)
         

      Slightly O.T. but in the WAPO today the big headline was how both candidates were campaigning negatively.  I read the article(continued on an inside page and the only thing Obama was cited for was comparing McCain's record to W. 

      Are they totally in the tank for McCain or is the headline a deliberate misstatement?

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      • Author by nerzog (November 03, 2008 2:30 pm ET)
           

        The Republican Toadies who are showing up on the talk shows are actually claiming that Obama's campaign has been more negative than Grampy's.

        The audacity of these lying bastards knows no limits.

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 03, 2008 3:17 pm ET)
             

          What I'm running into from the republicans I talk to is that they're very disgusted with this election, the negative campaigning on both sides. I ask them for some examples of Obama's nastiest stuff, but I never get any answers. They just say it's both sides, and these are people who believe a lot of the blatant lies coming from the Gramp Camp.

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          • Author by djasper2761 (November 03, 2008 3:47 pm ET)
               

            those folks managed to escape Jim Jones. They now drink right wing coolaid They have an allergy to reality and truth filters installed in their ears.

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            • Author by MissDee (November 04, 2008 1:42 am ET)
                 

              it is true I guess. you prove that if you stare in a mirror long enough, you start to see someone else. LOL

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              • Author by seahawks123 (November 04, 2008 2:07 am ET)
                   

                Your're rubber and I'm glue.  Yep.  You stopped maturing in the 2nd grade.

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              • Author by djasper2761 (November 04, 2008 3:21 pm ET)
                   

                maybe you can get mickey c. to come over to your house engage you in some verbal intercourse. Have any 100,000 mg Viagras?

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      • Author by ajzito (November 03, 2008 3:19 pm ET)
           

        This is just the kind of false 'fairness' that Alterman talks about.  Reporters feel pressure of some kind to say that both parties are guilty, even if it's not true.  The pressure may come from the constant whining on the right about the 'liberal media.'  Even in the era of FOX News and corporate media conglomerates, this guilt rap still mesmerizes journalists.  I throw my hands in the air - they can be influenced to distort, weasel and even lie, but to tell a straight story?  Don't hold your breath.

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    • Author by williaminny (November 03, 2008 2:54 pm ET)
         

      Did you notice the part where he said he would make coal production so expensive that it would bankrupt anyone who tried to do it?

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 03, 2008 3:37 pm ET)
           

        No, I didn't. I think reading that part required a premium tier tinfoil hat with a direct hookup.

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (November 03, 2008 3:52 pm ET)
           

        William-

        I missed that part.  Was it right after the part where McCain said he would make coal production so dangerous that it would destroy the environment and make our air unbreathable?

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 03, 2008 6:44 pm ET)
             

          Kyle, I just went for a drive, and heard Willyminny's talking point kicked up a notch by Palin. She was referring to an audio clip in which Obama promised to bankrupt the coal power industry.

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      • Author by ajzito (November 03, 2008 10:31 pm ET)
           

        What he's saying, Williaminny, is that in a worst case scenario, if clean coal turns out to be a technological flop, or, on the other hand, if the technology is available but a developer refuses to invest in it - in either of those cases we will reach a point where we want to make building new coal plants economically impossible.  What we are all overlooking is the fact that 'clean coal' is right now, just an idea.  (An idea worth pursuing, as Obama makes abundantly clear, because the prospect of having to do without coal is daunting) But the technology is barely developed at this time. 

        You make it sound as though Obama has announced a plan to deliberately go out and bankrupt the coal industry at the first opportunity.  I don't believe you really think that's the case.

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 04, 2008 12:01 am ET)
             

          You make it sound as though Obama has announced a plan to deliberately go out and bankrupt the coal industry at the first opportunity.

          AJ, that's how it's being fed to them, not only by the righty media, but by  Palin in a speech I heard on the radio.

          Why is it when I hear Obama talk about coal, it's as a transitional fuel used as effectively as possible, and when McCain talks about coal, I think of this---

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    • Author by robrob (November 03, 2008 3:18 pm ET)
         

      The Republican Toadies who are showing up on the talk shows are actually claiming that Obama's campaign has been more negative than Grampy's.

      What, you don't remember all those ads Obama ran claiming McCain was a foreign born collaborator who refused to wear a flag pin?

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    • Author by princeofwheels (November 03, 2008 4:44 pm ET)
         

      The Entertainment Media folks, the Rushbo, O'Reilly and my favorite Seannie the Sissy have repeated falsehoods and lies so often about Obama that no one outside of thier goose-steppers believe them. It is thier own fault that they cannot get anything to stick. It has gotten so out of hand that Obama could rob a bank on camera in front of the MSM and when reported, people would just call it another dirty trick. What else could one think after all of the BS these entertainers have put forth to the public? I'd like to tune into Seannie tonite but the Steelers are on MNF, Saturday Night Live is on and a documentary about worm dung is on. Sorry Seannie, you are rated a tad below worm dung. Anyway, when Seannie the Sissy starts his rattling about Ayres, the minister etc etc. for the tenth time in the first 15 minutes of his show, only his minions will still be around.

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    • Author by fantagor (November 03, 2008 5:29 pm ET)
         

      Democracy has been cropped. Take it back and VOTE the GOP into the oblivion of history.

      Randy

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      • Author by djasper2761 (November 04, 2008 3:28 pm ET)
           

        conservitism=anal rententive with constipation of the brain and diarhea of the mouth. nasty people

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