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WSJ's Fund reported on "fraudulent voters" in Ohio, without noting prosecutor reportedly said those in question weren't "attempting to deceive anyone"

November 03, 2008 4:37 pm ET

SUMMARY: In a Politico.com piece, John Fund described "out-of-state" registrants who reportedly cast ballots in Ohio as "fraudulent voters," without noting that a Columbus Dispatch article Fund apparently cited in his piece quoted an Ohio prosecutor saying of the people: "[M]y take is that they haven't come here to deceive anyone. ... They were under the impression they were entitled to vote."

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In a November 2 Politico.com piece, Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund cited Columbus Dispatch reporting about an Ohio investigation into a group of "out-of-state registrants," some of whom reportedly voted or requested absentee ballots, and all of whom reportedly shared a house. Fund wrote that "[t]he owner of the house the fraudulent voters stayed at is also under investigation." However, although Fund apparently referred to an October 18 Columbus Dispatch article in describing the investigation, Fund omitted comments made by the state prosecutor, reported in the same article, expressing his view that the people voting illegally believed they were entitled to vote and did not intend to break the law.

Fund wrote that Franklin County prosecutor Ron O'Brien "cracked down in the case of 13 out-of-state registrants who came to Ohio to register voters in Columbus for the group Vote From Home." Fund later stated, "The Columbus Dispatch reported last month that 'none of them seems to have ties to Ohio' -- and apparently had no intention of staying there. One has even moved back to England, where he is a student. It is illegal in almost all states to vote somewhere that is not your permanent residence." Fund continued, "The owner of the house the fraudulent voters stayed at is also under investigation. He has voted in Ohio even though he has lived and worked in New York for the past four years," adding that "[m]any are concerned that other fraudulent votes could be cast in Ohio."

But Fund did not note that O'Brien also reportedly said the following: "[M]y take is that they haven't come here to deceive anyone," and, "They were under the impression they were entitled to vote. That's how they were reading the law."

From the November 2 Politico.com article:

There are already documented examples of fraudulent registrations being converted into fraudulent votes in Ohio, where ACORN and other groups were active. Darrell Nash, an ACORN registration worker, submitted an illegal form for himself and then cast a paper ballot during the state's "early voting" period.

Franklin County prosecutor Ron O'Brien also cracked down in the case of 13 out-of-state registrants who came to Ohio to register voters in Columbus for the group Vote From Home. The group all lived out of the same rented 1,175-square-foot house in Ohio, registered to vote and then most of them either cast early voting ballots or submitted applications for absentee ballots before leaving the state. They have agreed to have all of their ballots canceled in exchange for the prosecutor's decision not to file charges.

The Columbus Dispatch reported last month that "none of them seems to have ties to Ohio" -- and apparently had no intention of staying there. One has even moved back to England, where he is a student. It is illegal in almost all states to vote somewhere that is not your permanent residence.

The owner of the house the fraudulent voters stayed at is also under investigation. He has voted in Ohio even though he has lived and worked in New York for the past four years.

Many are concerned that other fraudulent votes could be cast in Ohio.

From the October 18 Columbus Dispatch article:

About 200,000 newly registered Ohio voters have been flagged by the secretary of state because their names, addresses, driver's-license numbers, and/or Social Security numbers don't match other state or federal records.

Likely among them are the 12 people who have registered to vote since August using the address of the 1,175-square-foot Brownlee Avenue house.

Some of them already have voted. Others requested absentee ballots but have yet to return them to the Franklin County Board of Elections.

None of them, however, seems to have ties to Ohio - no close relatives, no public-records trail, no obvious intention to stay in the state past the election.

Most of them grew up on the East Coast, attended colleges there and registered to vote in their home counties. It is not illegal to be registered to vote in more than one state. But it is illegal to vote in more than one or to vote in a state that is not your permanent residence.

The owner of the house also is coming under scrutiny. He has voted in Ohio even though he has lived and worked in New York since 2004.

All 13 are under investigation by Franklin County Prosecutor Ron O'Brien. None has any apparent ties to ACORN, the Association of Community Activists for Reform Now, whose voter-registration activity has come under scrutiny in Ohio and other states.

"My take is that they haven't come here attempting to deceive anyone," O'Brien said. "They were under the impression they were entitled to vote. That's how they were reading the law."

He has talked to several of the people or their attorneys. He doesn't believe they set out to intentionally thwart the law, which requires voters to live in the state at least 30 days before the election.

Daniel Tokaji, assistant director of an elections law center at Ohio State University, said residency is not always cut and dried under Ohio law. The statute says: "A person shall not be considered to have gained a residence in any county of this state into which the person comes for temporary purposes only, without the intention of making such county the permanent place of abode. ... That place shall be considered the residence of a person in which the person's habitation is fixed and to which, whenever the person is absent, the person has the intention of returning."

"My bottom line is for some of these cases, there's a gray area in the law as to whether someone's intention to remain is sufficient in circumstances where they've come here and it's not clear how long they plan to stay here," Tokaji said.

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 03, 2008 4:42 pm ET)
         

      Fund is obviously illiterate.

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    • Author by wzwriter (November 03, 2008 4:47 pm ET)
         

      John Fund deceives thousands every time he writes another piece of crap article and claims it contains facts...

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 03, 2008 5:02 pm ET)
           

        The only one attempting to deceive anyone is John Fund...

        No wonder this chowder-head is on the Fock You Channel all the time.

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      • Author by mrhebert74 (November 03, 2008 5:56 pm ET)
           

        Fund: "Many are concerned that other fraudulent votes could be cast in Ohio."

        Undoubtedly the same people who were concerned about poor black Ohioans waiting ten hours in line to vote while rich white Ohioans strolled in at their convenience to polling places with plenty of voting machines in 2004.

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        • Author by nerzog (November 03, 2008 6:03 pm ET)
             

          Whoever wins tomorrow, I hope they take on Election reform and finally fix this mess.  It is obscene that, in the richest country in the world, people have to stand in line six or eight hours to vote.

          There is simply no excuse for it.

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          • Author by mrhebert74 (November 03, 2008 6:22 pm ET)
               

            While I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, I must go further: We need protection against a whole host of threats to our votes, many of which are detailed in the article I linked to. I don't feel the least bit confident that such protection has arrived, except inasmuch as the good people of Ohio saw the wisdom of electing a Democratic candidate Secretary of State. The one before was decidedly anti-democratic.

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    • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (November 03, 2008 5:24 pm ET)
         

      Fund is neither illiterate or a chowder head.  If he can confuse a few voters and/or listeners of Faux who are making up their minds then he is a valuable member of the McCain/palin Gang.  HIs tactics are the foundation of the Republican Party.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (November 03, 2008 5:52 pm ET)
         

      John Fund works for the wall street Journal, editorial staff is a regular on FOX, owned by that Murdoch guy = what can you expect the trumpets of journalism ?

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    • Author by nerzog (November 03, 2008 6:00 pm ET)
         

      This guy is a hopeless GOP Toadie.  He was on Bill Maher a few weeks back, and he just spouted endless Republican talking points.  It got so bad that Maher called him on it, pointing a finger at him and saying "You know better!"

      To his credit, Fund was unflappable, and refused to budge an inch; he just soldiered on, robotically repeating his obvious lies.   You have to give the Troglodytes their due.... they are disciplined.

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      • Author by mrhebert74 (November 03, 2008 6:34 pm ET)
           

        They are disciplined, I'll give them that. Did anybody see Mitt Romney on Good Morning America today? In about sixty seconds, he asserted that McCain's campaign is going strong, that the American people are going to realize that McCain is the better choice for the economy, that Obama is going to tax most small businesses, that Sarah Palin was a great choice for VP (even better than he himself would have been, even considering the economic crisis), and that the Obama party in Chicago was in for a long, cold night.

        But I'll have to admit that his face said it all: "Get me out of this nightmare!"
        (click on the More+ button, and scroll down to "last look at the McCain camp."

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    • Author by snoopy (November 03, 2008 7:15 pm ET)
         

      I'll repost this from yesterday. While republicans are busy whining about perceived voter fraud, here are clear examples of republicans committing voter fraud - intentionally. Whiney little crooks...

      Ballots picked up, then disappear

      The disappearance of some absentee ballots, picked up under unusual circumstances, has raised some serious questions.

      BY LAURA FIGUEROA AND SCOTT HIAASEN

      shiaasen@MiamiHerald.com

      Three Hialeah voters say they had an unusual visitor at their homes last week: a man who called himself Juan, offering to help them fill out their absentee ballots and deliver them to the elections office.

      The voters, all supporters of Democratic congressional candidate Raul Martinez, said they gave their ballots to the man after he told them he worked for Martinez. But the Martinez campaign said he doesn't work for them.

      Juan ''told me not to worry, that they normally collected all the ballots and waited until they had a stack big enough to hand-deliver to the elections department,'' said voter Jesus Hernandez, 73. 'He said, `Don't worry. This is not going to pass through the mail to get lost.' ''

      Hernandez said he worries his ballot was stolen or destroyed. He and two other voters told The Miami Herald that the man was dispatched by a woman caller who also said she worked for Martinez. But the phone number cited by the voters traces back to a consultant working for Martinez's rival, Republican congressman Lincoln Diaz-Balart.

      Martinez's campaign manager, Jeff Garcia, has asked the Miami-Dade state attorney's office to investigate.

      Garcia has also spent the past week investigating the complaints, taking sworn statements from the three voters and mounting an ameteur sting operation at the home of an 84-year-old voter to try to catch the culprit.

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      • Author by oscar the grouch (November 03, 2008 9:20 pm ET)
           

        Assuming your post is a cut and paste, I'm very surprised the Miami Herald does not have a proof reader or at least a spell checker program to compliment their ace reporting.

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      • Author by wzwriter (November 04, 2008 12:04 pm ET)
           

        I'll repost this from yesterday. While republicans are busy whining about perceived voter fraud, here are clear examples of republicans committing voter fraud - intentionally.

        The words "Republican" and "fraud" seem to be used together quite a lot - don't they???

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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (November 04, 2008 3:39 pm ET)
           

        Well we have demorat voter intimidation in Philly this morning.  Club weilding black panthers are intimidating voters and they've thrown out Republican poll watchers in at least six Philly wards. 

        Club weilding thugs.  You dems stay classy.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (November 03, 2008 10:45 pm ET)
         

      I looked at John Fund's bio and this is all I could find relative to a journalistic degree

      "Mr. Fund attended California State University where he studied journalism and economics."

      Whenever i read " attended " without a date I assume the subject did not measure up enough for a real degree and revert to shilling the GOP for any sort of financial gain, I did see his name tied to Robert " Traitor ' Novak which kind of explains his stature in the journalistic world.

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      • Author by wzwriter (November 04, 2008 12:07 pm ET)
           

        "Mr. Fund attended California State University where he studied journalism and economics."

        That means that at some point in his college career, John Fund read a newspaper ("studied journalism") and balanced his checkbook("studied economics").

        :-)

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    • Author by williaminny (November 04, 2008 3:10 pm ET)
         

      Are you kidding me?  "They were under the imprression they were entitled to vote,"

      This prosecutor is simply repeating the lie  the fraudulent voters told, in order to

      get themselves out of trouble with the law.  A more transparent lie would be hard

      to find, outside of a Obama campaign ad.  They didn't know they weren't entitled

      to vote in a state where they were not residents,but visitors?.They did not know

      they were not allowed to vote in more than one state in the same election?

      Voting in a state in which  you are not a resident is a deception, by definition.

      They did mean to deceive.  And they did deceive, at least the one person, the

      Ohio prosecutor, who bought their story.  Unless, even he did not really believe

      such nonsense, and only said he did to let them off the legal hook.

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    • Author by robrob (November 06, 2008 2:21 pm ET)
         

      "They didn't know they weren't entitled to vote in a state where they were not residents,but visitors?." 

      They registered legally in Ohio as residents, fully within the law.

      "They did not know they were not allowed to vote in more than one state in the same election?"

      Feel free to provide any indication they voted in more than one state.

      "Voting in a state in which  you are not a resident is a deception, by definition."

      They were registered Ohio voters, living in Ohio as defined by the statute and as articulated by the prosecutor himself.

      "They did mean to deceive.  And they did deceive, at least the one person, the Ohio prosecutor, who bought their story.  Unless, even he did not really believe such nonsense, and only said he did to let them off the legal hook."

      How exactly did they "deceive"? Did they vote in more than one state? Did they not live in Ohio as defined by the statute? Are you implying the prosecutor is conspiring with them in some fashion? Given the statute relies heavily on intent, are you somehow reading their minds to know what their intent was?

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