On Grant's radio show, Coulter suggests Obama's "civilian national security force" will lead to "a lot more Waco raids"
SUMMARY: On Bob Grant's radio show, Ann Coulter suggested that President-elect Barack Obama's "civilian national security force" would lead to "a lot more Waco raids, Elian Gonzalez snatchings." In fact, Obama's comments about the necessity of a "civilian national security force" referred to expanding the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps.
During his November 5 broadcast, New York radio host Bob Grant played an audio clip of President-elect Barack Obama stating: "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded." Responding to the clip, Grant's guest, conservative commentator Ann Coulter, said: "Sounds like there's gonna be a lot more Waco raids, Elian Gonzalez snatchings. I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I think this -- I think Obama is a frightening candidate. We'll see." In fact, as Media Matters for America has previously noted, Obama's comments about the necessity of a "civilian national security force" -- which Grant falsely asserted came from Obama's Election Day remarks but were actually from a July 2 speech on service -- referred to expanding the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps.
From Obama's July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Colo.:
Today, AmeriCorps -- our nation's network of local, state, and national service programs -- has 75,000 slots. And I know firsthand the quality of these programs. My wife, Michelle, once left her job at a law firm and at City Hall to be a founding director of an AmeriCorps program in Chicago that trains young people for careers in public service. And these programs invest Americans in their communities and their country. They tap America's greatest resource -- our citizens.
And that's why as president, I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose. People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem -- they are the answer.
So we are going to send -- we're going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We'll call on Americans to join an Energy Corps to conduct renewable energy and environmental cleanup projects in their neighborhoods all across the country. We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, to be there for our military families. And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered, and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.
We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
We need to use technology to connect people to service. We'll expand USA Freedom Corps to create online networks where Americans can browse opportunities to volunteer. You'll be able to search by category, time commitment, and skill sets; you'll be able to rate service opportunities, build service networks, and create your own service pages to track your hours and activities. This will empower more Americans to craft their own service agenda, and make their own change from the bottom up.
From the November 5 broadcast of WABC Radio's Bob Grant Show:
GRANT: I want to play a portion of Barack Obama's speech last night, which I think is the most bizarre aspect of his program. Listen to this.
OBAMA [audio clip]: We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.
GRANT: Ann, what do you make of that?
COULTER: Sounds like there's gonna be a lot more Waco raids, Elian Gonzalez snatchings. I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I think this -- I think Obama is a frightening candidate. We'll see.
And we're supposed to be more afraid of this fabricated threat than Homeland Security... or President Numbnuts' unwarranted wire taps?
Idiots. Morons. Douchebags. Imbeciles. Cretins. Troglodytes. Nitwits. Dumbasses.
Sorry honey , but Obama is not a candidate any longer, he is your President Elect. These scumbags like Grant and Couler better get used to it.
I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I think this -- I think Obama is a frightening candidate
boo.
Could have stopped after "I don't know", nothing beyond that added a thing to the discourse.
No, that was crucial. Because then, when President Obama performs ably and she is proven wrong about her specific fears, she can always say, "I said, 'I don't know,' See, I knew even then that I might be wrong." Yes, those weasel words are absolutely crucial. Just goes to show how seriously we should take someone who uses her words in such an unserious manner.
more like " it was just a joke ".
Not sure, but I think they're telling us who we shouldn't be afraid of: child-molesting religious cult leaders who hoard massive amounts of deadly weapons.
you do know that most killed in waco were blacks
Which makes no difference to me whatsoever.
Many of Jim Jones' followers were black, and his hands are stained in blood as well.
I guess it just proves that in the end, cult followers are all human.
Namecallers!
This is a trend I'm seeing more of from the wingnuts, the future,hypothetical strawman.It's actually pretty clever by righty standards.
They're so tired off having all of their top shelf propaganda debunked that they've gone to "prediction propaganda". Rather than lie about things that are presently happening, or have happened in the past (which can be exposed as lies), they just babble on about what will "probably" happen, as imagined in the dank recesses of their shriveled little minds.
Until somebody gets a time machine, the best anybody can do is show their ideas are crazy, but not necessarily untrue, as they haven't happened yet.
Well, it works really well on the Troglodytes, because it can never be proven false.
Every time some Con Man tells them that Jeeeezzzzzuuuuuusssssss is about to return, they believe it and buy his book. Then, after it doesn't happen, they stupidly believe the next a$$hole that predicts it.
No doubt. Grant is too stupid to know the difference between the flag of Buckeye state and the flag of HisOwnImaganistan. And Coulter? She's little more than a vulgar corporate Marxist.
Fair Lady Ann; the only "ist" she is , is a coulterist. She cares only about her $$ and how to extract more $$ from the dupes who by her ever so clever publications. If McGramps had won, and he truly asked for sacrifices, to put country first, she would be the first to turn on him.
OT, but did'nt she fail with her support of Hillary? As I recall she promised to support Senator Clinton if McCain was the R nominee.
Miss Coulter's big mouth finally got her in trouble on the Hillary promise. I haven't seen her on television in quite a long time. It looks like the best that she can scare up for a media appearance now is an interview on Bob Grant's show. I thought that that fossil had finally died. I guess not. The good do indeed die young.
coulter is living proof that people that nothing to live for, that contribute nothing worthwhile for the human race and are actually a scourge on society, keep on living. She is in reality a "truth teerrorist". She is what I would call the role model for a future hater. She is like a female (I think. There is a large adams apple however) shyawn inshannity. I think she has been away to get electo shock therapy.
Yeah, she's got a book coming out, so her main purpose in agreeing with this nutcase in Cincinnati is to signal to his listeners that she is on their side: "I am one of you. So go buy my book."
Wow - I remember a time when Ann Coulter could still get on the teevee. Now she's reduced to pushing her whacko Townhall.com screeds on the walking brain-dead and cozying up to doddering old fascists. Now, that's change we can believe in.
Far right religious cranks shooting Federal agents? Unfortunately it will probably happen.
Wasn't Waco a Bush the First set-up for Clinton?
I mean, they deliberately screwed up the thing, then left it there, when they knew he was coming in. And then, they screamed and screamed about it as soon as it happened.
I always thought that it was disingenuous for the Troglodytes to totally blame Janet Reno for that incident, when it was Bush's FBI that blew it in the beginning.
Oh and the Waco Raid was in response to federal gun law violations and only got ugly after a federal officer was shot to death, as I recall. If she is still blaming some high federal official for that debacle she is out and out fabricating.
Note to trolls, save your time, I could care less about what ever "proof" you are about to post.
You mean the "flashes" that show the feds "starting" the fire? I've looked at that "evidence" they tout and it is left, umm, wanting.
What's with the right's love of shooting it out with "the government forces"? I mean if anyone says anything remotely critical of the constabulary, they get all apoplectic about respecting authority. I find it quite confusing.
See, what you forgot, is at the time, they were under Clinton's and Reno's control, so what they were REALLY trying to do, is to break into your homes, and take ALL of your guns (even though that's not remotely what they were trying to do in Waco).
And you're right. When is it OK to shoot a federal officer, serving a warrant, and not expect a response? The ATF agents were at Waco to serve a warrant, and when they approached, armed to the teeth because they knew what weapons they had inside, those d-bags opened up on the, killed an agent, and actually killed several before it was all over.
Yeah, we definitely should have just left them alone...
What's with the right's love of shooting it out with "the government forces"?
Ah, you know what's up, Ol' Ben. Just more of the righty's "Screech loudly and carry a small flaccid stick" philosophy. They love to talk about the 2nd amendment being important so they can keep the government in check, love to talk about the gov. not getting the guns until they pry them from their cold dead fingers.
You'd think that somebody who actually stopped flapping their jaw, and did something about it would be a hero to these armchair rebels, if they were honest.
Ask Bill Ayers if they're full of crap or not.
As an aside, I find it telling that they would bring up Elian Gonzalez. It's odd given their rantings about the "chickification" "castrato" or how a kid needs both a mother & a father (when discussing gay adoption) and anything else emasculating, that they would latch on to a case of a young boy being returned to his FATHER.
I always figured that if Elian Gonzlez had been from Haiti, the Republicans would have overnighted him back via Fed Ex and never blinked. They were just sucking up to Miami's Cuban voting bloc.
Ever since the Waco incident I've been trying to understand how the right wing can excuse anyone who opens fire on a law enforcement officer for any reason.
Anyone who does, reaps the whirlwind and, deserves whatever happens as a result I have no remorse for them whatsoever, none.
We should all be worried about the raids that have gone on during Clinton/Bush. Ruby Ridge, Waco, Elian Gonzalez, and the recent invasion of the Texas Mormon group. These are all fascist violations. Hopefully, Obama will muzzle the jackbooted thugs in the government. Some, though, are on a state level. He won't be able to stop it all.
I would say you are lying, but that post is filled with such stupidity that I can only come to the conclusion that you actually think it's true.
I pity you.
Oh come on Coulter. Is that all you got? You've really had a low profile this election season, and now this is all you have to say?
the waco compound was "raided" because child rapist david koresh ordered his followers to kill six federal agents serving a legal warrant. if you are in favor of letting them get away with something like that, you have some screws loose. [or your name is g. gordon liddy] and elian gonzalez was snatched from his miami family, who were defying an order to turn him over so he could be returned to his father. a six year old belongs with his father, cuba or not.
Ignore insufficient boyfriend.
Is the boyfriend insufficient in the department I think you are suggesting? Is Ann Coulter's dourness the result of lack of ... frustration? Who is her boyfriend, by the way?
I think your suposed to say those words like cooking directions. S'pose you could go to the source and ask the horse......Slap! Sorry, Phil Austin is either a quarter, or a fifth of the FireSign Theater. See chromiumswitch.blogspot for a link to the whole article.
For boyfriends, I think mostly overage frat boys. For the rest, the answers I'd put in the "Too much information!" file.
Typical Ann Coulter and Bob Grant BS, I guess they will start bringing up Elian and Waco now since they have nothing. Note to Ann Coulter- David Koresh was a child abusing disgusting psycho. But you are so concerned about the rights of a child rapist but you could care less about how our rights have been taken away in the past 8 years. Ann Coulter and Bob Grant are meant to be together. Sickos
How exactly are we going to have more Elian Gonzalez snatchings?
Is this going to be some sort of wierd international game where every time he gets to Florida from Cuba we have the Feds swoop in and toss him back? I know that it seems like almost anything can become a reality show concept these days but I don't know if audiences are going to tune in to see a show with the same contestant every week.
Seriously, does the idea of "a lot more...Elian Gonzalez snatchings" make sense in even some sort of bizarre metaphorical fashion? Because I can't see it.
Tonight on Elian Snatch, Elian is kidnapped by those wacky girls from ROCK OF LOVE CHARM SCHOOL and learns to dye his hair pink.
Is little Elian getting too old for the Giant Trebuchet ride back to Cuba? Find out when we buckle him up and start the countdown to launch on Entertainment Tonight!
I remember Ann Coulter was very active in the early part of the campaign. Who did she tick-off to get herself ignored so thoroughly?
Coulter kept calling people gay. But I have no idea why that would stop her from being a beloved pundit on the right.
Who did she tick-off to get herself ignored so thoroughly?
Functioning-Brained-Americans.
I do love reading Ann...
Jonesjax, do you get the annie-christ emails? My buddy put me on the Human Events list a while back as a joke. I know some reasonable people don't appreciate that kind of crazy, but I've never unsubscribed, as I'm fascinated by my regular email alerts from Coulter, Gingrich, Chuck Norris, Dick Morris and all of the other lunatics. HE rivals The Onion most days.
Good Colonel - no I have not yet got emails. I tried to subscribe to somethign and perhaps they found my FBI files and rejected me. Ann always amuses. She doesnt write her column that often. Morris is a classic toad villain - today he said Obama will not side with Israel when it bombs Iran. That's entertainment! Its kind of a sick addiction, isn't it? But the humor is endless...
ANNTHRAX COULTER, FAR RIGHT WING GASSBAG with the IQ of a walnut.
i see ms. coulter's been released from protective confinement. they really should find a way to keep her on her meds.
geez, how many 5,000 watt AM stations are there?
The only candidate that doesn't frighten Coultergeist is:
So... is she saying that the situation at Waco was somehow... OK? The raid may have been controversial, even bothced, but is she really saying that what David Koresh was doing was OK?
And Gonzalez? Sad as it was, wasn't he just an illegal immigrant? I thought they were all about sending them home?
Oh yeah... principals don't apply if they're incovenient and you're Republican.
Col. Sanders: The other favorite technique is the "Imagine" - as in "Imagine if a Democrat..." or "Imagine if a liberal..." I once commented on NewsBusters that they use "Imagine" more than John Lennon. This is an astonishing intellectually flabby trick because he has no boundries - and is impossible to disprove because it is made up in the first place.
Did you know Ann Falter was still around? I wonder where she voted - if she ever figured out where she lives. Since that's public information I hope some people down in Palm Beach spend a few minutes to look into out. Same for our friends in New York - or was in Connecticut? Or all three?
I thought she'd dried up and blown away. Now she's a guest on the Bob Grant show? I guess she's about fourteen and one-half minutes into her full fifteen...
Memo to Bob Grant: That's one bad rug!
That's for sure! I think that there's nothing this guy could say that would weird me out more than just looking at his hair.
You Must Stay Afraid
The conservatives will not leave power without some residue of their trademark. With one last attempt to hold their illsusion they are keeping us safe, they will, on cue, continue to play thre fear card.
Yes, the boggie man is alive and kicking. The difference now is the Republicans will soon be without any power to create a false reality. No more orange cards; no more phony claims Al Qaeda is next door ready to take down airplans with soda battles and various unknown devices. It is coming to a end.
Joseph
"Obama's comments about the necessity of a "civilian national security force" -- which Grant falsely asserted came from Obama's Election Day remarks but were actually from a July 2 speech on service -- referred to expanding the Foreign Service, AmeriCorps, and the Peace Corps."
RWnuts hate service.
And if anyone knows about Wac[k]o, it's Coulter.