WSJ, Fox News' Hume and Hannity repeated baseless "car ballot" story to suggest vote tampering by MN officials
SUMMARY: The Wall Street Journal, Sean Hannity, and Brit Hume advanced rumors that 32 absentee ballots in Minnesota's Senate election were left in a car and mishandled, suggesting that election officials may have tampered with votes in an effort to benefit Al Franken. The claims followed similar allegations by Coleman campaign lawyer Fritz Knaak. However, none of the three mentioned that Knaak reportedly said later, "It does not appear that there was any ballot-tampering, and that was our concern." Further, election officials have repeatedly said the ballots were sealed and held in a secure location until they were counted.
In recent reports on the pre-recount audit of results in Minnesota's Senate election, The Wall Street Journal, Sean Hannity, and Brit Hume advanced rumors that 32 absentee ballots from Minneapolis were mishandled, suggesting that election officials may have tampered with votes in an effort to benefit Al Franken (D), who is challenging Sen. Norm Coleman (R). The claims followed comments made on November 8 by Fritz Knaak, a lawyer representing Coleman's campaign, who reportedly said, "We were actually told ballots had been riding around in [Minneapolis director of elections Cindy Reichert's] car for several days, which raised all kinds of integrity questions." However, none of the three mentioned that Knaak reportedly said later on November 8 that he was assured the ballots weren't tampered with, and also reportedly said on November 10 that "[i]t does not appear that there was any ballot-tampering, and that was our concern." Further, Hennepin County officials have repeatedly said the ballots were sealed and held in a secure location, and Reichert has reportedly said that the claim that the ballots were in her car was false, as was the claim that the ballots sat in a car for days.
- In a November 12 editorial headlined "Mischief in Minnesota?" the Journal wrote: "You'd think Democrats would be content with last week's electoral rout. But judging from the odd doings in Minnesota, some in their party wouldn't mind adding to their jackpot by stealing a Senate seat for left-wing joker Al Franken." The Journal wrote of the absentee ballots: "[N]early every 'fix' has gone for Mr. Franken, in some cases under strange circumstances. For example, there was Friday night's announcement by Minneapolis's director of elections that she'd forgotten to count 32 absentee ballots in her car."
- During the November 11 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, host Sean Hannity said to Fox News contributor Lanny Davis: "You're missing a lot of issues here that actually matter, and one is lack of transparency. Another is a lack of uniform standards for protecting of the ballots. We have an issue of ballots showing up in a car somewhere, and then they're gonna be counted? Where were these ballots before? So there -- there's a lot of questions about -- about, you know, behavior on the part of some."
- Similarly, during the November 11 edition of Fox News' Special Report, host Brit Hume said, "The campaigns are also negotiating ballot security standards after an unsuccessful challenge by Coleman to halt the counting of 32 absentee ballots that were supposedly left for days in the trunk of an election official's car." During Hume's report, on-screen graphics read "FRAUD ALERT" and "CAR TROUBLE."


In a November 12 MinnPost.com article, reporter and Minneapolis Public Radio media analyst David Brauer explained the origins of the story that the missing ballots had been in Reichert's car: "The 'car ballot' story emerged Saturday [November 8] from the mouth of Coleman lawyer Fritz Knaak, who, according to AP, told reporters, 'We were actually told ballots had been riding around in her car for several days, which raised all kinds of integrity questions.' "
But contrary to the accusations by the Journal, Hannity, and Hume, Brauer also reported: "Knaak never provided a source and did not return two MinnPost calls for comment. However, he was already backing off his story at the same press event. As that day's [St. Paul] Pioneer Press noted, 'Knaak said he feels assured that what was going on with the 32 ballots was neither wrong nor unfair.' "
Indeed, the Star Tribune further reported in a November 11 article that Knaak said on November 10 that "we've heard enough from the city attorney to let go of this. It does not appear that there was any ballot-tampering, and that was our concern." From the article:
One dispute resolved
On Saturday, the Coleman campaign had asked for an injunction to stop the counting of 32 absentee ballots in Minneapolis that had not been delivered on Election Day. A judge declined to grant the injunction, and Knaak said Monday that "we've heard enough from the city attorney to let go of this. It does not appear that there was any ballot-tampering, and that was our concern."
Minneapolis city election officials said the 32 ballots were never "missing" and were delivered after Election Day.
Knaak said that with certified totals in, the campaign is now focused on the recount process.
A November 8 AP article also reported: "Knaak also said a Minneapolis attorney reassured Coleman's campaign that no one but an elected official had access to the 32 ballots and there was no tampering."
Regarding the integrity of the ballots, Brauer reported that Reichert made "three fundamental points":
Before getting into the details, she makes three fundamental points:
1. The ballots where never in her car.
2. The ballots were never in anyone's car for several days.
3. The ballots were never lost or forgotten, and spent Election Night until counting day in secure city facilities. [emphasis in original]
The Minneapolis Star Tribune reported on November 9 that the "32 Minneapolis ballots were part of the normal delivery of absentee ballots late in the polling day, according to Election Director Cindy Reichert. She said they were retained when they couldn't be delivered because some polling places had shut down for the day. She said the ballots were kept sealed until other election duties were completed and were being counted Saturday afternoon, with results to be delivered to the state on Monday."
Similarly, the St. Paul Pioneer Press reported on November 10 that on Election Day, officials "attempted to deliver absentee ballots that arrived as part of a late mail delivery to the appropriate precinct. But some precincts had closed by the time they got there, and the ballots were returned to a secure location before being counted according to state law."
From The Wall Street Journal's November 12 editorial:
The vanishing Coleman vote came during a week in which election officials are obliged to double-check their initial results. Minnesota is required to do these audits, and it isn't unusual for officials to report that they transposed a number here or there. In a normal audit, these mistakes could be expected to cut both ways. Instead, nearly every "fix" has gone for Mr. Franken, in some cases under strange circumstances.
For example, there was Friday night's announcement by Minneapolis's director of elections that she'd forgotten to count 32 absentee ballots in her car. The Coleman campaign scrambled to get a county judge to halt the counting of these absentees, since it was impossible to prove their integrity 72 hours after the polls closed. The judge refused on grounds that she lacked jurisdiction.
From the November 11 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:
HANNITY: You're missing a lot of issues here that actually matter, and one is lack of transparency. Another is a lack of uniform standards for protecting of the ballots. We have an issue of ballots showing up in a car somewhere, and then they're gonna be counted? Where were these ballots before?
So there -- there's a lot of questions about -- about, you know, behavior on the part of some.
From the November 11 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Brit Hume:
HUME: There are worries about what's up in that Minnesota Senate race, where Republican incumbent Norm Coleman was ahead of Democrat Al Franken by 725 votes the morning after the election.
But Franken has narrowed the gap to about 200, even though a recount has not yet been started. That is because election officials are correcting supposed typos in how the numbers were reported. Those corrections have added 435 votes to Franken while taking away 69 from Coleman. And virtually all of Franken's new votes came from just three of the more than 41,000 precincts.
The campaigns are also negotiating ballot security standards after an unsuccessful challenge by Coleman to halt the counting of 32 absentee ballots that were supposedly left for days in the trunk of an election official's car.
Republican Governor Tim Pawlenty says, quote, "These changes seem to disproportionally -- overwhelmingly favor Al Franken."















I think I'd choose to go with the person who didn't put out the false story (Reichert) over the person who did put forward the false story (Coleman campaign attorney Knaak).
Seriously, if the Coleman camp is satisfied that things are on the up and up, that's certainly good enough for me. I just thought it read funny, as if somebody's assurance without proof would ever satisfy the other side.
The problem is, even if the Coleman camp doesn't actually think there was anything wrong with the recount I don't think they're going to admit it was clean if they end up on the short end of the votes. I think Franken will accept the result either way.
I agree, but it will be easier for Franken to accept if he loses since he already lost the first count.
I just think the republicans are saying" If there is going to be any voter fraud we will do it. Not the Demos. That is what we do and you are not allowed to play in our sand box"
I'm not sure what you find so funny. By your own summary, Knaak raised a concern, it was answered in a way that he found sufficient, and so he dropped the matter. What is either strange or funny about that?
Rush limpAugh, Shyawn Hannity, or Michael Savageweiner would never concede under the weight of truth that easily.
What a sissy, Fritz...
32 counted votes are important because they may benefit a democrat. 10,000+ purged votes mean nothing because they would have benefited a democrat. Republicans really believe in that constitution, don't they?
So do 32 votes count if they benefit a Republican?
Yes, if those 32 votes had all gone to Coleman they would have counted. Several of them did go to Coleman.
It was just the way Snoopy said it, Sarcasim!! Easy everyone, just making fun of Snoopy
Don't you mean 3 of the 32? Because that is how many went to Coleman.
do 32 votes count if they benefit a Republican
1. Of course they do.
2. As an attempt the change the subject, that's pretty feeble. The point, as was surely obvious, is that these same voices dismissed out of hand, even (if memory serves) in Hannity's case openly mocked, charges about mishandled, miscounted, or trashed ballots and thousands of wrongly disenfranchised voters when those charges were raised by Democrats.
Votes should be counted regardless of party affiliation. Why we don't have a unified standard on voting rights is beyond me.
18 went to Franken, 7 went to coleman, 7 were non-votes, they had no vote registered for a Senator.
Wrong...3 went to Coleman.
Seems to me we're seeing that very "disproportionate" phenomenon in Alaska right now.
And, by the way, don't these guys ever get tired of making wrong analyses?
How do you discover votes, what they just happen to be lost? Facts; They discovered 100 votes in Pine County and 100 votes found in Mountain Iron -- all for Al Franken. So either you have voter fraud or a poll worker whom needs to be dismissed and never allowed to work a poll again. This all smells. Hey Snoopy, yes as an individual that beleives in the Consititution, I beleive all votes should be counted, but not votes that just happen to be left in a car are where ever they were left. Tell me how does a poll work forget they have votes, did they just not leave the polling center to turn them in? Like I said, smells funny to me.
MYTH ALERT
They did not "discover" votes in either of those locations. The vote totals reported to the county from the local precincts were either reported or recorded incorrectly. The error was corrected, as happens every single election all over the country, during routine checks designed to discover just such errors.
If 100 new ballots were discovered and they all went to one candidate, that would be suspicious. Since that didn't happen it's not.
The 32 absentee ballots were properly handled, received and stored. On election night when they were counting ballots those were overlooked. They were then found, still properly stored and sealed, so there was no reason not to included them. There was no chain of possession gap, no opportunity for tampering.
Another point related to this is that in almost any election there are going to be misplaced, overlooked, or otherwise uncounted ballots. But it's only in rare cases, such as this one, where the margin is small enough that there is any reason to believe that those ballots could affect the outcome.
When those situations arise, election officials typically go back and scour precincts, polling places, anywhere ballots may have been stored prior to counting to see if any were missed. Almost always, some will be found.
That is how you "discover" votes.
Notice how 400+ votes were added to Franken and 60+ were taken away from Coleman? Seems a little unbalanced.
Right - it seems a little "unbalanced" that so many votes for Franken were "misplaced" in the first place.
IN ADDITION
Those two communities where the vote recording errors were corrected are very small communities. Without those votes the totals for Franken were very out of sync with the votes for other Democrats in the region. With the adjustments that were made the vote totals became more in line with the other totals. It would have been very strange for there to have been that large a number of the total voters to have not cast a vote in the Senate race.
It was correction of an error and nothing more. Standard procedure.
Currently, the biggest unanswered question involves Two Harbors, a small town on the north shore of Lake Superior, where, as the Journal notes, 246 additional votes cropped up for Al Franken (but no other candidates) well after the election was over. So far, neither St. Louis County officials (Democrats) nor Minnesota's Democratic Secretary of State has been willing to tell the Coleman campaign where these votes came from or why the total was changed.
-John Hinderaker
Isn't Hinderaker the guy who just said that Barack Obama needs to strike to improve his "undisciplined" speaking style so that he will commit as few verbal gaffes as Dubya?
Obama thinks he is a good talker, but he is often undisciplined when he speaks. He needs to understand that as President, his words will be scrutinized and will have impact whether he intends it or not. In this regard, President Bush is an excellent model; Obama should take a lesson from his example. Bush never gets sloppy when he is speaking publicly. He chooses his words with care and precision, which is why his style sometimes seems halting. In the eight years he has been President, it is remarkable how few gaffes or verbal blunders he has committed.
-John Hinderaker (not as 'good a talker' as Obama)
"Bring it on!"
The guy gives a text-book example of projection.
Never let Hinderaker be mentioned without bringing up his seminal statement:
"It must be very strange to be President Bush. A man of extraordinary vision and brilliance approaching to genius, he can't get anyone to notice. He is like a great painter or musician who is ahead of his time, and who unveils one masterpiece after another"
The very fact that this man has an outlet proves the dysfunctionality of the media.
Hinderaker is not the best source for information. This is from the Lake County News Chronicle in Two Harbors:
Auditor Steve McMahon explained that on election night, a typo was made when staff in his office entered totals for the Minnesota Secretary of State’s website. The last digit of Franken’s vote total was dropped, temporarily leaving his tally for Ward 1 at 27 instead of 273. When the auditor’s staff reviewed the paperwork the next morning, the mistake was caught and corrected.
How hard is that explanation to believe? The wrong totals were recorded at the SOS office and the correct totals were published in the next day's local paper. The difference was quickly resolved.
Nothing suspicious happened there.
You must be getting your information from the republican conspiracy website, because every single thing you are saying is an almost exact cut and paste from this phony conspiracy site created by Norm Coleman.
Snoop - You've been here long enough to know that AA is incapable of getting information from a LEGITIMATE news source!! And the way AA sees it, the skankier the cybersewer, the better.....
boring.
"If the shoe fits...." I guess you go to sleep.
I noticed these story BillJ posted has a bylines dated today. One wonders why it took so long to get the story out?
ps. Very observant. The Hinderaker quote is a cut and paste dated yesterday.
What kind of drugs do you think Hinderaker is on? Do you know where I could get some?
Ask obama... he writes about it in his book.
According to another short news article I read, which didn't have the details this one did, the auditor in Two Harbors said no one called him for details. It's as simple as "no one asked."
Lets hope that is it.
As the author of the second article stated, "This little episode is a wonderful study of the democratic process. People are willing to jump to conclusions before they make a simple phone call to the source."
I can understand why the republicans didn't pursue it. The "suspicious" version of the story served their purposes too well. They didn't want to show that there was nothing to it. I'm a little disappointed that the DFL didn't look into it in order to demonstrate that there was nothing suspicious about it.
Not jsut 32... there has been a 500+ total swing in a 700+ loss to Franken.
I live in Oregon, but would be glad to stuff some votes for Franken in my shoe box and mail 'em to Two Harbors. ;-)
I love that town; had an uncle who lived there when I was just a wee girl.
Win the recount... after he lost the election? Really...twice as bad... late 70's early 80's double digit inflation and unemployment...hmmmm....oh yea carter...how about him? I am sure you are one of those people who think bush did you wrong like starting a war that was overwhelmingly encouraged by congress...not just bush. I would love to hear how bush did you wrong... I will base my arguments on fact, common sense and reason. Don't worry I will site all of mine and they won't come from mainstream media like msnbc.
''I would love to hear how bush did you wrong". Lets see bush, chenney, wolfowitz,rumsfield , and other NEOCONS wanted to take out SADDAM from the moment the came to office. They used 9/11 to fuel the fire for war . The congress and press should heve showed more backbone in questioning the necessity for war. Now thanks to those jerks we are stuck in a needless and unessary war in IRAQ. Add to that taking us from budget surplusees to budjet deficites, being assleep at the switch before and on 9/11,screwing up the hunt for BIN LADEN, screwing up the response to hurricane KATRINA,screwing up the economy, and virtually everything elese he touched, i'd say he did just great.
Okay. Neocons. What a cutsie name you libwhackos have coined. So your favorite villans wanted to take out Maddam. What a loss, huh? A dictator that killed many more of his own citizens than have been killed in the war to try to establish a democracy. A verifiable madman who actually did torture (as opposed to the gloves on treatment at Gitmo) untold thousands. And you have the nerve to suggest that taking him out was wrong? What a lame excuse for supporting conniving ways to elect as president a candidate that is so obviously out of his element (can you say "puppet"? Sure, I knew ya could). So, Bush et al used 9/11 to fuel the fire. And brought the battle to the terrorists in their own backyard. And now the battle is being won. Wow, have you got any more brilliant arguments? And as far as the congress and press showing backbone to further their liberal agenda, you all make me sick with your lack of support and undermining of a war effort. This war will go down in history as the one in which the progeny of the hippies of the 60's carried on the tradition of cut and run. Such a bunch of whiners I'd never thought to see the likes of. Write me when Obie finds Osama, ok? Then you can crow. Screwing up the economy. Let's talk about refusals by the Dems to re-regulate the banking industry, shall we? Jeez, what a loon!
NEN
I will base my arguments on fact, common sense and reason
Like that will ever happen.
Coleman was a lapdog for Bush. You have been asleep the last 8 years in regard to Bush. Go back to sleep and let the adults run the country once again.
Coleman campaign lawyer Fritz Knaak "It does not appear that there was any ballot-tampering, and that was our concern."
But why would FOX News want to let the facts deter their agenda?
I would like to see some legal analysis on the subject of Slander
as it might apply to: Sean Hannity.