Quinn claims Mexicans will use subsidized Viagra to "father the next generation of illegals" in effort to "reconquer the Southwest"
SUMMARY: Discussing the Mexico City government's reported plan to begin distributing free impotence drugs to men 70 and older, Jim Quinn said, "Viva Viagra. Well -- after all, who's gonna father the next generation of illegals to come swarming across the border in their effort to reconquer the Southwest?"
n the November 18 broadcast of The War Room, discussing the Mexico City government's reported plan to begin distributing free impotence drugs to men 70 and older, co-host Jim Quinn said: "Viva Viagra. Well -- after all, who's gonna father the next generation of illegals to come swarming across the border in their effort to reconquer the Southwest?" Quinn added:
QUINN: Oh, I know, I know, I know. I'm such a xenophobe and such a hater. I mean, who would suggest that, you know, La Raza, or MALDEF [the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund], or MEChA [Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlán] were really Reconquista groups. I mean, we all know that that's just a myth that's been started by a bunch of right-wingers. And it's not really an invasion. It's not an attempt to populate the Southwest to the point where you eventually can outvote everybody else, and do pretty much whatever you want to do, including secede from the union if you wanted to, 'cause you still do have the constitutional authority to do that.
In fact, the National Council of La Raza, MALDEF and MEChA are U.S.-based civil rights and social justice organizations. Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented instances of conservative commentators, including radio host G. Gordon Liddy, columnist Michelle Malkin, and MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan, claiming that immigrants subscribe to a "Reconquista" philosophy aimed at recapturing the Southwestern United States for Mexico. "Reconquista" is a term associated with El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán, a document drafted in the early formation of MEChA, a group with affiliates at numerous college campuses and several high schools that "promotes higher education, cultura, and historia."
In a July 15, 2006, article, Los Angeles Times reporter David Kelly wrote of El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán:
MEChA leaders say it is a historical document from a more radical time distorted by critics who focus on a few lines while missing the broader picture.
"When did we say we wanted a separate nation? We never did," said Graciela Larios, who recently retired as head of the UC Riverside MEChA club. "We know about the spiritual plan for Aztlan. It reflects the time it was written in. We are not ashamed of it. We stand by it."
As Media Matters has documented, Quinn claimed on October 10 that 5 million illegal immigrants were given subprime mortgages and asserted that the Democrats "have given away your American dream, and by God, at some point, they need to be called to account for it." However, according to an October 9 Phoenix Business Journal article, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) "says there is no basis to news reports that more than 5 million bad mortgages are held by illegal immigrants" and "a HUD spokesman said ... his agency has no data showing the number of illegal immigrants holding foreclosed or bad mortgages."
Talkers Magazine lists Quinn & Rose on its "Heavy Hundred" list, which it describes as a list of the "100 most important radio talk show hosts in America." According to the show's website, it airs on 18 radio stations and XM Satellite Radio.
From the November 18 broadcast of Clear Channel's The War Room with Quinn & Rose:
BRIT HUME (Fox News host) [audio clip]: And finally, Mexico City will begin handing out free impotence drugs to men age 70 and over. The city's mayor says part of the reason is that sexuality, quote, "has a lot to do with quality of life and our happiness."
QUINN: Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Are you running out of illegals to send across the border here? Is it -- what's going on?
HUME [audio clip]: Mexico City's health secretary says the handouts of one or two Viagra, Levitra, or Cialis pills will begin December 1st. The doses will be distributed at three centers that specialize in sexual health for the elderly after the men take a medical examination. The initiative is apparently not open to tourists.
QUINN: Oh. Viva Viagra. Viva Viagra. Well -- after all, who's gonna father the next generation of illegals to come swarming across the border in their effort to reconquer the Southwest? Oh, I know, I know, I know. I'm such a xenophobe and such a hater. I mean, who would suggest that, you know, La Raza, or MALDEF, or MEChA were really Reconquista groups. I mean, we all know that that's just a myth that's been started by a bunch of right-wingers. And it's not really an invasion. It's not an attempt to populate the Southwest to the point where you eventually can outvote everybody else, and do pretty much whatever you want to do, including secede from the union if you wanted to, 'cause you still do have the constitutional authority to do that.
You know, it's interesting that in the face of the people who argue that my arguments don't hold water, we have an entire Mexican bureaucracy whose job it is to facilitate the flow of illegals across the border -- to make DVDs for them, to give them maps, to give them tips on what to do after they get here to be -- to avoid detection.
Now, if there's a government bureaucracy in the Mexican government, who is tasked with doing that, how is it not an invasion? It's one country sending their population into another country -- that's an invasion. Now, I know, I know, they're not using guns -- well, except for the drug gangs along the border. They're not, you know, killing people or kidnapping them, except of course for the drug gangs along the border. But, sorry, folks, I mean, I don't know how you avoid the essential truth that we have one country engaging in a soft invasion. And of course, this, again, this notion of Reconquista -- that they believe that the Southwest really belongs to them and always has historically, and they're going to reclaim it politically, by -- simply by populating the Southwest and literally outvoting everybody else, that is just something that right-wing fascists like me made up.















Racism sure is on the rise now that the latest data says whites will lose majority status by 2040. "Oooooh, we're losing our cultural identity!" they cried. But wait - aren't they demanding the hispanics lose their cultural identity if they want to live here? And now that doesn't appear to be enough, because they will never be white enough for the "true" americans. Nah, these idiots are just like King Edward from Braveheart - if they can't wipe them out, they'll breed them out.
Are we talking hispanics in general or just illegal immigrants?
... and as for "cultural identity", I think that's a subject that isn't just a subject for illegal immigration, but also a concern with all this "diversity" and "globalization" movement. Sure, globalization isn't new, but the level of it is with the rate of travel of ideas and people.
Both. The subtle whine is the illegal immigrants will become legal somehow.
Which is a legit complaint, but the problem is when we start treating all hispanics like illegal immigrants. Not all hispanics are illegal immigrants, not all illegal immigrants are hispanics.
How many Canadians enter this country illegally? How many Russians enter this country illegally (OK, the only one concerned about them may be The Washed-Up Hockey Mom)? They're illegal immigrants too...
I have no problem with legal immigrants, no matter what country they're from. Also, if we took care of our illegal immigration problem, the illegal immigrants who are making positive contributions to this country shouldn't have much of a problem becoming legal immigrants.
I've argued this one before, but after watching my wife go through the current system (and she had a green card) I'm of the opinion that you could make a significant reduction on what's termed "illegal" immigration just by streamlining the system. My belief is that republicans don't want that option on the table because hispanics generally vote democratic, so they created this huge red tape program to purposely turn away people who would otherwise immigrate legally.
After the Obama win, it was interesting to hear some of the repubs on the Sunday talk shows lament the loss of Hispanic votes. They acknowledged that unless they got Hispanic support, demographically they were doomed. The problem was that all this extreme anti immigrant hysteria killed them at the polls this time. They can't continue to anger the legal immigrant voters just to placate their ignorant, limbaugh infested base. I find this all ironic.
BTW my wife also went from green card to citizen. Streamlining the system is a no brainer except that the republicans would rather continue to destroy themselves on this issue. The last thing they want to do is rationally dissect the issue. Self rightousness and pitiful victimhood is all they seem to want to know.
Subsidized Viagra--I'll bet Limbaugh is packing his bags as we speak.
Where do I get in line? Vamanos! Viva Viagra!!
Now sing that with an Elvis sneer and you've got a commercial! ;)
Hey, you didn't know my abuelo. Or sus novias...
My best to them, and a continuing mutual pleasure in each others presence. Would you call them typical or a trend?
yes, but it's how they do it, mijo. Con gusto! That's the problema para los gringos.
Estan celoso, no?
What else motivates Mexican-haters like Lou Dobbs or O'Reilly?-- it must have something to do with their wierd idea (fantasies) of Latin sexuality. They want those chapparitas and can't get them!
I'm sure Jim Quinn is an expert on Viagra.
Everyone needs at least one subject where they know what they're talking about.
One must always remember that Jimmy Quinney was a good friend of Jeff Christie back in the '70s in Pittsburgh. That is by his own admission. And he idolizes Rush and wants to be just like him.
One must always remember that Jimmy Quinney was a good friend of Jeff Christie back in the '70s in Pittsburgh. That is by his own admission. And he idolizes Rush and wants to be just like him.
Hmmmm. I wonder if Jim Quinn was with Jeff Christie the night he was arrested in the company of that male prostitute in Pittsburgh back in the '70s......
I don't know about Mexicans and Viagra, but Quinns obviously using Peyote.
Sounds more like ma ma ma mescaline.
I don't know about Mexicans and Viagra, but Quinns obviously using Peyote.
I was thinking crystal meth....
But not the meth of the common people. He's using elitist Waterford Crystal Meth...
And his partner uses Crystal Light Meth - fewer calories, ya know.....
we need to reduce immigration, period. we have enough people in this country. the late liberal senator gaylord nelson of wisconsin was the father of earth day as we know. he said that attempts to paint all efforts to control immigration as racism were just an attempt to stifle a needed debate. it is clearly an environmental issue. a growing population in the southwest, which is an environmentally fragile area, cannot be sustained in the manner we have now. and that applies to other areas as well.
mefirst:
I reject the argument that immigration is primary to our (international) environmental crises. Yes, the southwestern United States is ecologically fragile, no question. But gringos have managed, quite apart from Mexican influence, to fetishize the green lawn, backyard pool identity.
If we're going to use environmental arguments as a basis for immigration reform, then we need to take it all the way. That is: environmental arguments need to shape economic policies, highway construction funding, budgetary processes - everything. Environmental concerns are a neat distraction when speaking of immigration reform because you can simultaneously tap the liberal and conservative gestalts, without actually addressing any of the underlying problems with either immigration or the environment.
So let's just pretend that we based immigration reform on environmental concerns. Immigration reform would then include the reformation of our agricultural industry, issues of environmental justice (where are our dumps?), regional vs. global production issues, including our exportation of environmental costs, overconsumption, and a host of other very large, very complex problems that absolutely need to be addressed. But they cannot be addressed with a simple "let's restrict the number of immigrants!" argument, because this argument is nonsensical in the context of larger environmental problems.
If, on the other hand, I have misread your post and you truly are arguing for a broader discussion of how we move forward, environmentally, and fold immigration reform into our larger efforts, then I'm all for it.
i'm not saying other issues should not be addressed. and i was not speaking about "international" environmental crises, although those crises are made worse by increasing population in those countries. there's no way around that fact. but we are looking at a population of over 400 million people by 2050 and that's the low estimates. most of that will be due to immigrants and their higher birth rates. hardly a "neat distraction" to point that out, nor is it "nonsensical". what's nonsensical is to pretend we can absorb that number of people and it's not going to make a difference. we can work on our own problems without having to plan for an ever growing population. and what exactly do you mean by "immigration reform"?
Maybe, now that the Troglodytes are leaving the White House, we can once again support the promotion of birth control in our foreign policy.
World population growth is a problem that has not been getting much attention lately.
i fully agree. and i think a lot of people do not want to discuss it because it's too delicate of a subject. you have countries where 40 years ago most people were able to make a living off the land. as populations have tripled and even quadrupled, there is not enough arable land to go around, so people crowd into megacities like sao paulo, cairo, and calcutta and live in abject poverty.
70 year-old Mexican dudes will father the next generation of illegals? All Mexicans are illegals, I guess?
Who is this a$$clown? This is so demeaning to me as a Mexican, I can't even articulate what a retard this guy is.
What is interesting how this non-story from Mexico City is of great interest to Quinn- and to the outer edges of the American media, the back-page, "odd news" junkies- because it has to do with their favorite recreational drug, Viagra. If only we in this country paid as close attention to the non-Viagra related vicissitudes of our international neighbors. Maybe we'd understand and make our continent stronger.
To take a semi-comical story (that's how my family in Mexico City see it) and turn it into another dark, racist, Mexicans-as-cockroaches allusion, is low.
Here's one for you Quinn, I hope a Mexican uses Viagra to make you a grandfather again. Never even heard of you, punk.
Jeez are the wing-nut boys going around the bend or is it just my imagination