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Levin cited "global cooling" study to dismiss efforts to "control carbon dioxide" emissions, ignoring warning by study's co-author not to do so

November 20, 2008 5:02 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On his radio show, Mark Levin cited a recent study predicting that an ice age will occur in the next 10,000 to 100,000 years as purported evidence that humans should not "try and control carbon dioxide" emissions that contribute to global climate change. But Levin did not mention that the study's co-author reportedly warned against using the study to argue that "we should stop fighting warming" and stated: "There's no excuse for saying 'we've got to keep pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.' "

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During the November 13 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Mark Levin cited a recent study (subscription required) predicting that an ice age will occur in the next 10,000 to 100,000 years as purported evidence that humans should not "try and control carbon dioxide" emissions that contribute to global climate change. But Levin did not mention that the study's co-author reportedly warned against using the study to argue that "we should stop fighting warming" and stated: "There's no excuse for saying 'we've got to keep pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.' "

During the segment, Levin read portions of a November 13 London Daily Mail article about the study, which appeared in the weekly journal Nature. In particular, Levin read the following sentence from the Daily Mail article: "Lead author Thomas Crowley from the University of Edinburgh and Canadian colleague William Hyde say that currently vilified greenhouse gases -- such as carbon dioxide -- could actually be the key to averting the chill." Levin then stated: "So, according to these two scientists, we're heading into a global chill, maybe an age of an ice age, and we're gonna try and control carbon dioxide, which is the answer to global cooling. Why the hell don't we just try and leave it alone?" Earlier, after reading the portion of the Daily Mail article that reported "the experts blame the global change on falling -- rather than climbing -- levels of greenhouse gases," Levin asserted: "Well, ladies and gentlemen, without carbon dioxide, we croak. There can be no plant life, and if there's no plant life, there's no oxygen. ... On top of that, without greenhouse gases, the Earth freezes. We should be on our knees every day praying to God, 'Thank you for carbon dioxide.' "

However, Levin did not read the following portions of the Daily Mail article in which study co-author Professor Thomas Crowley explicitly warned against using his study to dismiss the threat posed by global warming:

Professor Crowley said the stark findings do not mean we should stop fighting warming.

But he urged: "Don't push the panic button."

"There's no excuse for saying 'we've got to keep pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere,' " he told Reuters.

"Geologically it's tomorrow, but we have lots of time to argue about the appropriate level of greenhouse gases."

Indeed, several other media outlets have also reported that Crowley cautioned against using the study to argue against taking action to stop global climate change. For example, a November 12 post on the Wired Science blog reported that Crowley said that by continuing to emit greenhouse gases at the current levels, "[w]e're creating a situation at least as dangerous, only going in the opposite direction":

However, Crowley's model, published today in Nature, is not likely to come true. Along came humanity and, to be more precise, the Industrial Age. Our greenhouse gas emissions, he said, are more than enough to alter the Earth's once-frigid destiny.

What's so bad about that?

We're putting so much carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, said Crowley, that the planet's climate isn't simply veering from a curve: it's departing at right angles.

Flooding coastal regions and risking drought across much of Earth's surface "does not seem like the normal thing a society would do for self-preservation," he said. "We're creating a situation at least as dangerous, only going in the opposite direction."

A November 12 Agence France-Presse article on the study also reported:

Crowley cautioned those who would seize on the new study to say " 'carbon dioxide is now good, it prevents us from walking the plank into this deep glaciation'."

"We don't want to give people that impression," he said."(...) You can't use this argument to justify [man-made] global warming" [ellipsis in original].

And a November 12 article for National Geographic News reported:

Though this extreme ice age would be unusual, so is the climate that people are creating by emitting huge amounts of greenhouse gases, Crowley said.

"It's hard to say what's going to happen," Crowley said. "The very fact that you have this nonglacial [warming] atmosphere with polar ice caps [still present], presents a bizarre scenario."

Media Matters for America has previously documented other instances of conservative media figures using scientific studies to draw or advance conclusions about global climate change that contradict the conclusions of the researchers who conducted the studies. For instance:

  • During the August 21, 2007, edition of Fox News' Special Report, host Brit Hume cited "new research by University of Washington mathematicians [that] shows a correlation between high solar activity and periods of global warming," and asserted that "[global warming] skeptics are increasingly certain that the scare is vastly overblown." But an August 9, 2007, New Scientist article (subscription required) on the mathematicians' research warned that "[c]limate-change skeptics may seize on the findings as evidence that the sun's variability can explain global warming -- but [the report's co-author] mathematician Ka-Kit Tung says quite the contrary is true." According to the article, Tung, who is a University of Washington professor of applied mathematics and an adjunct professor in atmospheric science, says his finding, in New Scientist's words, "adds to the evidence that mainstream climate models are right about the likely extent of future human-generated warming."
  • On the January 21, 2006, edition of Fox News' The Journal Editorial Report, Wall Street Journal editorial page editor Paul A. Gigot falsely claimed that a study by researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics, which found that live plants produce 10 to 30 percent of atmospheric methane, "is turning conventional wisdom about global warming on its head." Editorial page deputy editor Daniel Henninger then claimed that "this is causing big problems for the tree-huggers," telling viewers that methane "is a greenhouse gas, the sort of stuff the Kyoto Treaty is meant to suppress." In fact, in a press release published three days before the Editorial Report aired, the study's authors pointed out that human-caused emissions -- not natural emissions -- "are responsible for the well-documented increasing atmospheric concentrations of methane since pre-industrial times." The authors added that plant emissions do not contribute to "the recent temperature increase known as 'global warming.' "
  • On the September 21, 2005, broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh selectively read from a year-old article to falsely suggest that a 2004 study by the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research found that an increase in solar brightness is the sole cause of global warming. In fact, the article, which appeared in the London Telegraph on July 18, 2004, specifically noted that the study's lead author did not believe increased solar brightness was responsible for the dramatic rise in global temperatures over the past 20 years. According to the parent organization of the group that conducted the study, solar brightness "plays only a minor role in the current global warming."

From the November 13 broadcast of ABC Radio Networks' The Mark Levin Show:

LEVIN: All right, let me hit another issue here. I was talking about global warming, right? Well, there's global cooling now. This from The Daily Mail. All this will be on MarkLevinShow.com, all of these stories. "It has plagued scientists and politicians for decades, but scientists now say global warming is not the problem. We are actually heading for the next Ice Age, they claim. British and Canadian experts warned the big freeze could bury the east of Berlin [sic: Britain] to 6,000 feet of ice. And what's more, the experts blame global change on falling -- rather than climbing -- levels of greenhouse gases."

Please listen to this. This is important. "Lead authors Thomas Crowley from the University of Edinburgh and Canadian colleague William Hyde say that currently vilified greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide." Remember that idiot legislator from Westchester County? What the hell was that fool's name? "Oh, carbon di- --." He doesn't know what it is, but he knows we have to control it. Well, ladies and gentlemen, without carbon dioxide, we croak. There can be no plant life, and if there's no plant life, there's no oxygen. On top of that -- yeah, Thomas Abinanti. Thomas is an idiot. On top of that, without greenhouse gases, the Earth freezes. We should be on our knees every day praying to God, "Thank you for carbon dioxide."

But I digress. "And what's more, the experts blame the global change on falling -- rather than climbing -- levels of greenhouse gases," such as carbon dioxide, "the currently vilified greenhouse gases -- such as carbon dioxide -- could actually be the key to averting the chill."

So, according to these two scientists, we're heading into a global chill, maybe an age of an ice age, and we're gonna try and control carbon dioxide, which is the answer to global cooling. Why the hell don't we just try and leave it alone? What do you think of that -- no, they're not going to do that. It doesn't matter. Remember that idiot who called the first hour, those of you who were listening?

The libs don't care. They don't care about science, they don't care about evidence, they don't care about truth. They are pushing this global warming thing. They're gonna push this global warming thing all the way. They don't care how much damage they do to American industry. Look at them now -- they don't care. They don't care how much damage they'll do to the environment, as a matter of fact.

"The Earth has seen dramatic climate fluctuations -- veering between cold and warm extremes -- over the past 3 million years, the researchers say. And char- -- changes in the Earth's orbit and slowly falling levels of carbon dioxide are the cause." These scientists are saying, rather than increases in carbon dioxide, we are losing carbon dioxide. And I tried to explain before -- I tried to explain before that man has minimal impact on all of this, if any.

"The team says we are approaching a turning point, in the next 10,000 to 100,000 years, which will lead to the new ice sheets smothering much of Europe, Asia and South America." Well, we won't be here for that. But, I'm just pointing out how massive this is and how absurd it is to destroy our economy, to lose our liberties and private property, because Obama is going to, by executive fiat, order the EPA to define carbon dioxide as a pollutant. As a pollutant to be controlled. And I've said it before. Carbon dioxide is a minuscule amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. It's critical amount, but it's minuscule.

The vast majority of greenhouse gases is water vapor. Water vapor. Problem is they can't regulate water vapor. There's no way to regulate water vapor. Because you can't really regulate plants; you can't really regulate condensation. And so they go after carbon dioxide, which is crucial to our survival on the face of the Earth. We'll be right back.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (November 20, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
         

      Why does anyone pay atention to the rantings and ravings of this brain dead moron? Listening to LEVIN is a waste of time and effort.

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    • Author by pithaughn (November 20, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
         
      I disagree with Mr. Levin on almost any subject, but I would guess that he would win a head to head debate. He is not a "brain dead moron?". He is competent at what he does, reflecting his audience's fears and apprehensions by placating them with victimhood. His employers are concerned only with profits. They don't care what effect he has on the country. I would venture to say that bringing back the fairness doctrine would actually increase their profits. Having opposing viewpoints without having to pay for them, and then the ranting rambling rebuttal, that is red meat for the listeners, those poor victims.
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      • Author by nerzog (November 21, 2008 8:43 am ET)
           

        Levin is a good example of an intellectual bully.  Right or wrong, he has the distinct ability to shout down anyone who disagrees with him.  As a result, people like him often appear to win debates because they are unencumbered by conventions of honesty or courtesy.

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        • Author by Readeverything (November 21, 2008 10:57 pm ET)
             

          How exactly does he shut people down?  By hanging up on them?  Levin, Rush, Bortz, Hannity, Savage, etc. never debate qualified peoples, just average callers into their show.  Their asses would be handed to them in a real debate.

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    • Author by historygeek001 (November 20, 2008 5:28 pm ET)
         

      Lying Levin is at it again.

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    • Author by wesley (November 20, 2008 5:42 pm ET)
         

       -- It's hard to say what's going to happen -- Crowley

       -- we have lots of time to argue about the appropriate level of greenhouse gases. -- Crowley

      That's pretty much a slap in the face to the algore legions of panic.

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      • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (November 20, 2008 5:50 pm ET)
           

        Wow.  You are your own misinformation machine.  Crowley is saying the opposite of what you think he is.  He's saying that we need to cut greenhouse gases as much as possible now, and then we can argue about what a "safe" level is later.  Here's the quote just before your snippet, which you conveniently left out:

        "There's no excuse for saying 'we've got to keep pumping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere,' " he told Reuters.

        Man you guys are pathetic.  I'm enjoying all the watching all the worms squirm now that their hands have been pried from all the levers of power in the country, from state legislatures all the way to the presidency.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (November 20, 2008 5:55 pm ET)
             

          Wesley's problem is very common in cons and other ideologues. They see a discussion about science, which by its nature includes many different viewpoints. These seem to be in conflict with each other, to the black & white thinker, and are interpreted as "slaps in the face".

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          • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (November 20, 2008 6:00 pm ET)
               

            Some basic logic would be helpful to them.  Unfortunately, a disturbing number of them lack basic reasoning capabilities.  Of course, you could say that if they were smart, they wouldn't be cons would they.

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            • Author by snoopy (November 21, 2008 12:13 am ET)
                 

              When all ya got is short term memory it's hard to remember three hours ago, let alone three sentances ago...

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            • Author by greatjob (November 21, 2008 5:20 am ET)
                 

              "Of course, you could say that if they were smart, they wouldn't be cons would they." Well that was ironic.

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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 21, 2008 9:34 am ET)
                   

                If they were smart, they would also know the meaning of "ironic."

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                • Author by greatjob (November 21, 2008 12:33 pm ET)
                     

                  You mean the contrast between expectation and reality? But don't take my word for it; check the dictionary.

                  "irony: 3 a (1): incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2): an event or result marked by such incongruity"

                  Let me clarify for you: I would expect someone who was insulting my intelligence with a broad brush to be able to type it coherently and properly. If he doesn't, it doesn't match my expectation. So what would that make it? Ironic.

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                  • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (November 21, 2008 12:58 pm ET)
                       

                    But you only failed to understand the result, Greatjob. so it's sort of an internal irony that only affects you.And you responding to the broad-brush accusation of dum-ness by being confused is absolutely not ironic, as anybody could have predicted it.

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                    • Author by greatjob (November 21, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
                         

                      You're right. Perhaps your undeserved haughtiness is just too confusing for me ever to come to terms with, though I never said I was confused. Blather on.

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                    • Author by greatjob (November 21, 2008 7:15 pm ET)
                         

                      Oh, by the way, Col: Why are you using a supposedly stupid person's own definition of ironic to show that he is stupid? That's pretty... stupid. Thanks for tacitly showing "Easy to refute" that he was wrong, though; I appreciate it.

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                  • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (November 21, 2008 1:14 pm ET)
                       

                    I'm sorry that you cannot understand English.  I sympathize, even if I can't empathize.

                    Perahaps the Cons are protected from understanding the depth of their own ignorance by that same ignorance.  It's like an episode of "Jay Walking".  The same stupidity that provides us such great entertainment protects them from truly comprehending why we think it's funny.

                    It looks like you are just smart enough to sense you were being made fun of, but not quite equipped to completly comprehend it.  That's pretty sad.

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                    • Author by greatjob (November 21, 2008 5:16 pm ET)
                         

                      How did you in any way refute the fact that I just proved you wrong? I guess I really am confused. Perhaps you'd like to meet up at a Mensa meeting and we can discuss this further.

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          • Author by worrierking (November 20, 2008 6:20 pm ET)
               

            You betcha!

            Where were the right's defenders of science when Gramps was droning on and on and on about the overhead projector that the Planetarium was getting from the Federal Pork barrel?

            I didn't hear a peep from them when his Alaskan prom date was insulting the entire field of genetic and autism research when she ranted about what a waste of money fruit fly research was.

            Rather than arguing science with us, maybe their time would be better spent preaching to their comrades whose answer to every scientific question is "That's how God made it or wants it.

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          • Author by wookie (November 21, 2008 10:34 am ET)
               

            Its part of their usual tendency to want unchangeable rules for every situation. This argument is like saying that winter disproves summer.

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    • Author by mefirst (November 20, 2008 6:30 pm ET)
         

      there's a carbon dioxide shortage?  who knew.

      this link discusses something i was reading in the paper about a week ago.  it's a "brown cloud" of pollution that hangs over asia and is affecting their environment adversely, but may be keeping temperatures down slightly worldwide. 

      http://www.zeenews.com/sci-tech/eco-news/2008-11-14/483422news.html

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    • Author by wesley (November 20, 2008 6:33 pm ET)
         

       -- A surreal scientific blunder last week raised a huge question mark about the temperature records that underpin the worldwide alarm over global warming. On Monday, Nasa's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), which is run by Al Gore's chief scientific ally, Dr James Hansen...

      A GISS spokesman lamely explained that the reason for the error in the Russian figures was that they were obtained from another body, and that GISS did not have resources to exercise proper quality control over the data it was supplied with. -- Telegraph UK

      My sympathies to Al Gore's legion of panic. It must be extremely difficult to make all those doom and gloom computer models come out the way the want...when they can't even perform a third grade task like correctly recording daily temperature readings.

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      • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (November 20, 2008 6:41 pm ET)
           

        You're wrong AND off topic.  A Con two-fer.

        I love how you ignored the spanking you just took above regarding your misconstruing Cowley's comments.  Alas, that's the MO of a troll.  Hit-and-run.

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      • Author by pithaughn (November 20, 2008 6:44 pm ET)
           

        Hi Wes, Here's what I think about your denialism

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        • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (November 20, 2008 7:11 pm ET)
             

          I wish there were no global warming.  However, I take guidance from the actual scientists who are in consensus regarding man's affect on the problem.  I certainly trust them a heck of a lot more than the pseudo-scientists and superstitious, witch-doctor embracing crowd.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (November 20, 2008 8:09 pm ET)
         
      Sports analogy, The gobal warming denier is like the wide reciever who's always looking for the goalline when he should be looking at the ball. It falls down a bit because in this case he'll argue way past any evidence that he did indeed catch the ball, and did get a touch down as well.
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    • Author by matrixbio2014 (November 20, 2008 9:25 pm ET)
         
      It's hard to see why the Cons concern themselves with global warming until you think of who their major funders are: corporations. Just keep harping on the evil environmentalists you radio show prostitutes. All these recordings will come back to humiliate you some day. I can't think of a single alarm sounded by environmental groups or ecologists that HASN'T proved true. Even the greatest environmental success story - the repairing of the hole on the ozone layer, occured b/c environmentalists managed to get legislation passed to ban CFCs.
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      • Author by matrixbio2014 (November 20, 2008 9:26 pm ET)
           

        PS - Levin's voice is soooooooooo irritating!

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        • Author by snoopy (November 21, 2008 12:34 am ET)
             

          If we could just get these right wing blowhards to shut up we'll make a significant contribution to reducing global warming...

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          • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (November 21, 2008 3:34 am ET)
               

            "If we could just get these right wing blowhards to  shut up we'll make a significant contribution to global warming". Right on SNOOPY, truer words were neverspoken . The GOODYEAR company can put  these clowns to good use providing HOT AIR for their fleet of blimps.

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        • Author by mefirst (November 21, 2008 6:50 am ET)
             

          that's correct, matrix.  rush has made himself extremely rich by pushing the line of corporations.  he has mocked any effort to set mileage standards on cars for years.  he says go ahead and buy that big gas hog, it's your american right.  it may be good for the oil companies, but it's not good for the country.  we keep sending billions to countries that then turn around and give it to groups that intend us harm.  personally i think a large part of this economic crisis we find ourselves in was partly a slowdown in spending due to people having to put so much money into paying for fuel.   now that prices have dropped again, i hope we take the opportunity to really start to move towards energy independence.  we've had thirty years of warning that this was coming.   rush and his corporate buddies hate the idea of solar, because after the initial costs that source is free.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (November 21, 2008 1:20 am ET)
         

      I stand behind what I believe about LEVIN , that he IS a FAR RIGHT WING LOON and a BRAIN DEAD MORON.

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    • Author by mescal (November 21, 2008 3:17 am ET)
         

      Levin's voice, if you listen closely, sounds almost exactly like the noises made by the Martians in Tim Burton's film MARS ATTACKS... only Levin's screechings make far less sense.

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      • Author by nerzog (November 21, 2008 8:49 am ET)
           

        Nightmare scenario:  A talk show co-hosted by Mark Levin and Simple Sarah. Shoot me now! Shoot me now!  AAAAAAAAAAAK!

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    • Author by crimson2 (November 21, 2008 8:09 am ET)
         

      Wow. Saying that we don't have to worry about global warming because of ice ages is like saying "I don't have to worry about the fire burning in my kitchen because it's going to rain next week."

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (November 21, 2008 9:37 am ET)
         

      I can't be going bald, the hair on the sides of my head is still growing.

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