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Ignoring Coleman's ballot challenges, Hannity claimed Franken is challenging ballots in MN to "litigate his way into the Senate seat"

November 25, 2008 10:44 am ET

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SUMMARY: Referring to the Minnesota Senate race recount on Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, Sean Hannity claimed Al Franken is challenging ballots "because he's trying to litigate his way into the Senate seat." But as of November 24, according to the office of the Minnesota secretary of state, Franken and Sen. Norm Coleman have challenged roughly the same number of ballots.

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On the November 24 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, while discussing the Minnesota Senate race between Democratic candidate Al Franken and incumbent Republican Sen. Norm Coleman, which is now in a recount, co-host Sean Hannity said of Franken: "I have all of these different ballots that he's questioning that clearly are Norm Coleman ballots, clearly, and he's questioning them because he's trying to litigate his way into the Senate seat." However, in claiming that Franken is "trying to litigate his way" into the Senate through ballot challenges, Hannity is ignoring a central fact: as of November 24, Franken and Coleman have challenged nearly the same number of ballots. According to the office of the Minnesota secretary of state, as of 8 p.m. CST on November 24, Coleman had challenged 1,400 ballots, while Franken had challenged 1,401 ballots.

Additionally, while Hannity said Franken is challenging ballots that "clearly are Norm Coleman ballots," he did not mention that Coleman is challenging ballots that appear to be marked for Franken, as Media Matters for America documented. The Bemidji Pioneer reported on November 22:

Franken recount attorney Marc Elias waved copies of 10 southeastern Minnesota ballots, citing them as examples of frivolous Coleman challenges.

Most of the ballots showed the voter marked the oval next to Republican John McCain's name in the presidential race, and then picked Democrat Franken in the Senate contest.

Coleman recount observers apparently challenged the ballots because they thought a voter would not pick both McCain and Franken.

But Elias said that in his view each of the ballots was "a textbook example of how to fill out an optical scan ballot."

When a reporter handed Coleman Campaign Manager Cullen Sheenan copies of two of the ballots, even he agreed it looked like Franken was the voters' choices.

From the November 24 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

HANNITY: There's a very important runoff December 2nd in the state of Georgia. If Al Franken -- and I argue -- and I have all of these different ballots that he's questioning that clearly are Norm Coleman ballots, clearly --

MORRIS: Right. Right.

HANNITY: -- and he's questioning them because he's trying to litigate his way into the Senate seat. And my question is: So, if Saxby Chambliss doesn't win in Georgia, this gives them their magic number of 60.

MORRIS: Yeah. The Republican Party is dead at that point. It has no role at all to play because you won't have 60. You'll have 60 votes in the Senate for the Democrats. And I've been pushing very, very hard for a group called GOPTrust.com that is running $1 million of ads in Georgia to elect Chambliss and defeat the Democrat.

Now, in the last couple of days, some of the liberals have lashed back at me, claiming that somehow I'm getting paid by this group, but the fact is that all they've done is buy ads on my website, like they buy ads in The New York Times. And I'm no more in cahoots with them than The New York Times is.

And this has all been fully disclosed in their disclosure statements. But I won't be intimidated by those groups. It is crucially important that every American who cares about the free enterprise system go online as soon as this show is over and [co-host] Alan [Colmes] makes his announcement, and get online to GOPTrust.com and give Chambliss the money he needs to win. Your whole future depends on it.

COLMES: But are you fundraising for Chambliss by doing that?

MORRIS: Yes, darned right I am, and give to Chambliss, too. When the whole future of the country is at stake on this, darned right I'm fundraising for him.

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    • Author by mary59 (November 25, 2008 10:56 am ET)
         

      It's ridiculous to challenge ballots filled out correctly as Coleman's campaign has done, but it's a head scratcher to figure what people were thinking when they picked McCain for prez, and Franken for Senate.  Maybe they liked them both as comedians?

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      • Author by oscar the grouch (November 25, 2008 11:00 am ET)
           

        Or perhaps some voters in MN need more help than we think ;>)

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        • Author by mary59 (November 25, 2008 11:04 am ET)
             

          Bring on the Norwegian jokes (i'm half)  I have family & friends there(all Dems) , & from talking to them, the over 70  folks were leery of Franken and the younger ones enthusiastic about him)

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          • Author by neon desert (November 25, 2008 12:43 pm ET)
               

            "Mama, I have da biggest feet in da third grade. Is dat becoss I'm Norvegian?"

            "No, it's because you're nineteen."

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          • Author by oscar the grouch (November 25, 2008 2:30 pm ET)
               

            My post was more a poke at my Sister and Brother-in-Law, Minnesota residents for the last 30+ years than it was at any ethnic group. We are pretty tough on each other (family) when it comes to political leanings.

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      • Author by BillJ-MN (November 25, 2008 11:10 am ET)
           

        ... it's a head scratcher to figure what people were thinking when they picked McCain for prez, and Franken for Senate. - mary59

        All it would take is someone who is generally conservative in philosophy but is turned off by a corrupt candidate like Coleman.

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        • Author by bruce1ace (November 25, 2008 9:05 pm ET)
             

          I think there were more Obama-Coleman tickets than McCain-Franken tickets.

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          • Author by BillJ-MN (November 26, 2008 8:11 am ET)
               

            Which has no relevance to my point.  I was simply indicating one good reason a voter might have for a McCain-Franken choice.

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (November 25, 2008 6:18 pm ET)
           

        but it's a head scratcher to figure what people were thinking when they picked McCain for prez, and Franken for Senate.

        Not really. They liked McCain, but thought Coleman was a crook, which he is. Makes perfect sense. There would have been more of these split votes, too, if the 3rd-party spoiler hadn't entered the scene.

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    • Author by Brabantio (November 25, 2008 11:00 am ET)
         

      "Coleman recount observers apparently challenged the ballots because they thought a voter would not pick both McCain and Franken."

      Most voters would not pick McCain and Franken.  If there was a huge percentage of that combination, that might raise a red flag.  But pointing to a handful of ballots as being invalid for this reason is about as nakedly disingenuous as one can get, even in the world of politics.

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      • Author by thomp.steve9098 (November 25, 2008 12:20 pm ET)
           

        You're right. I'm a registered dem, and always vote the ticket for the local dems, but in the past have split the ticket when casting my vote for the pres . . .  To some that probably seems ridiculous, but I'm sure it's not all that uncommon

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        • Author by snoopy (November 25, 2008 3:00 pm ET)
             

          I periodically do so too. I'm most interested in the best person for the job. But I have to admit I'm confused about the intentions of someone who picked McCain and then Franken - were they trying to make up for their 1st choice?

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    • Author by pete592 (November 25, 2008 12:36 pm ET)
         

      Alan Colmes will not be missed on the Fixed Noise prime time. 

      An intern at MMFA can navigate to the Minnesota SOS's website and find the facts that refute the allegation, but an alleged liberal who's paid an insane salary to appear on television cannot??  

      Colmes knows that Franken is on the Fixed Noise **** list, but instead of informing himself as to what's going on, he's content to go into a debate completely unarmed like the cross-eyed moron he is.

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      • Author by mr. l (November 25, 2008 12:57 pm ET)
           

        But..., but..., he's a LIBERAL!!!  We must love and protect him during his exposure to my good fellow American, Hannity the Greatest! 

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    • Author by konchster (November 25, 2008 2:13 pm ET)
         

      How do I hate thee let me count the ways.

      Hannity an ex-bartender speaks for the drunks and misfits on the (snark alert) excellent news organization fox news 

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    • Author by sigtek44bc1345 (November 25, 2008 3:26 pm ET)
         
      I'm reading all these posts and EVERYONE is missing the point! Norm Coleman is a well respected senator by BOTH parties and Al Franken is an ex-Air America drone and an alumni of SNL, neither of which qualify him for the senate! Apart from that, the allegations of fraud and mis-use of contributions to Air America should raise a multitude of red flags but since he is a conservative hating liberal, he gets a pass! The Franken candidacy is a JOKE and everyone knows it! He thought he could ride the coattails of Obama and now, because of embarrassment, he MUST litigate his chances. When I was growing up, people aspired to higher office. Sadly, with clowns like Franken vying for office, young, intelligent people realize higher office has become akin to the Jerry Springer show!
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      • Author by Brabantio (November 25, 2008 4:01 pm ET)
           

        And Reagan was an actor.  So was Schwartzenegger.  How did either of them get to be Governor without conservatives giving them a pass?

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      • Author by BillJ-MN (November 25, 2008 4:11 pm ET)
           

        Norm Coleman is a well respected senator by BOTH parties ... - sigtek44bc1345

        Norm Coleman is a wishy-washy unprincipled corrupt embarrassment for the state.  He flips parties and positions according to what he thinks will advance his own prospects at the drop of a hat.  I'm not a big Franken fan but he would be a huge upgrade for the state as Senator as far as principles, ethics and positions on issues.  (Maybe I shouldn't say positions on issues.  Norm has demonstrated that he's willing to shift those quite casually.)

        And Norm was the first to introduce litigation into the recount process.

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      • Author by military_husband (November 25, 2008 5:08 pm ET)
           

        Please tell me you are joking. There is so much crazy in your post I have no idea where to begin. Frankin thought he could ride Obama's coattails? How did he think that when he started running long before Obama was the nominee? What has Franken's campaign done that Coleman's camp hasn't when it comes to "litigating his chances"? Coleman has quite a bit of corruption hanging around his neck now so I can't see that either party thinks of him as a "Respected Senator". And the crazy just keeps on going...

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (November 25, 2008 6:20 pm ET)
             

          Right-- and I think Franken was a bit of a Hillary fan, too....at least at first.

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    • Author by Handsome Pete (November 25, 2008 3:54 pm ET)
         
      "he's trying to litigate his way into the Senate seat." Yeah, we all know how Republicans would never stand for tone of their own suing to get into office. Can you imagine if someone running for President had sued to stop a recount just to get elected? oops... I've seen some of the Coleman challenged ballots, it's absolutely ridiculous. So no one who voted for McCain could have voted for Franken? Not everyone is a partisan idealogue, Norm, and votes straight ticket, I've split a few ballots in my time, before Republicans went mad with power, and I may again someday. Some people want split government, which usually works to check the party in power, but current elected Republicans have shown themselves incapable of working with the Democrats (104 filibuster threats?), so they deserve what they get right now.
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    • Author by carlileb5935 (November 25, 2008 6:16 pm ET)
         

      When the whole future of the country is at stake on this, darned right I'm fundraising for him.

      Well then, why is FOX giving you free time in order to do this? That's the question of the month regarding this tack.

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    • Author by jmmartin3402 (November 26, 2008 12:50 am ET)
         

      Isn't it deliciously ironic, Seany Pooh bitching about someone trying to "litigate his way into the Senate seat"?  What does he think George W. Bush did in 2000?

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    • Author by Kiwi (November 26, 2008 8:25 am ET)
         

      Yeah!!

      How dare he try to use democracy in this country!

      The horror!

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