Woodward on reported Clinton appointment: "She never goes away, she and her husband"
On the November 30 edition of CBS' Face the Nation, while discussing President-elect Barack Obama's expected nomination of Sen. Hillary Clinton as secretary of state, Washington Post assistant managing editor Bob Woodward remarked of Clinton: "She never goes away, she and her husband." Woodward then added: "It's an amazing national security team that Obama appears to have selected. It's kind of like 'Goldilocks and the Three Bears.' You've got too cool, which might be -- or at least appropriately cool -- General [James] Jones as the national security adviser; [Defense Secretary Robert] Gates is kind of just right, in the middle; and Hillary Clinton, hot." He continued: "This is going to be a whole new center of gravity for the news media, for the world. My assessment -- without having any knowledge, really -- is that the economists and the economic team around Obama convinced him that the economic crisis is so deep and going to require so much time, go ahead and give Hillary and Bill the world."
From the November 30 edition of CBS' Face the Nation:
BOB SCHIEFFER (host): Bob Woodward, the president, if all goes as expected, at 10:50 Eastern Time tomorrow will announce his new national security team, to be headed by Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of state.
WOODWARD: She never goes away, she and her husband. It's an amazing national security team that Obama appears to have selected. It's kind of like "Goldilocks and the Three Bears." You've got too cool, which might be -- or at least appropriately cool -- General Jones as the national security adviser; Gates is kind of just right, in the middle; and Hillary Clinton, hot.
This is going to be a whole new center of gravity for the news media, for the world. My assessment -- without having any knowledge, really -- is that the economists and the economic team around Obama convinced him that the economic crisis is so deep and going to require so much time, go ahead and give Hillary and Bill the world.
The Sunday news shows are more like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, starring Bob Wodward as Dopey.
I know I typed "Woodward," but MMfA apparently disagrees.
HMMMMM, liberals loved Bob Woodward when he exposes corrupt conservatives but hate him as he exposes corrupt liberals!!!!! TYPICAL!
He's not exposing any corrupt liberals, he's just making up weird stuff.That's not so difficult to understand, is it? Great use of caps and exclamation points, though, .
I love the poses that MMFA grabs for their screen shots. There must be a lot of fun and laughs in the office when it comes to choosing time...
What corrupt liberals is he exposing here? Please use specific examples... As the good Col said below, he's just making things up.
In addition to the great use of caps and exclamation points, where is your standard "LOL" in your posting?
He left the LOL back at Free Republic, the home for those of marginal IQ.
And don't forget the right was frothing at the mouth over what an insult it was to her and the voters that she was not picked as VP. Now they're complaining that she'll be SoS. Give me a break.
Listening to the R side of the royal family complaining about what the President-elect was planning to do was such enjoynment that I actually missed a football game. The same old, tired complaints about how Obama was not doing what THEY thought best..It was such a kick to keep reminding them that the "Democrat Party", a phrase they loved to use, was now in charge.
The thrill of so much fun made the fried bologna skins, the main course, taste better than usual. And those potato skins were also excellent. Can't wait until the Christmas gathering so that I can remind Princess Grandma that O'Reilly is a jerk and cannot be trusted.
Can I come too? Maybe as a royal consort, perhaps? Sounds like jolly old fun!
Great summary, magnolialover! The Clintons are hated only by the uber-wingnuts of the Republican rabble. In fact, their ideology is built on hate; hatred of the poor, hatred of progressive ideas, hatred of all of the "others".
If appointing someone U.S. Secretary of State is (in bob woodward's words) "giving them the world", then I guess Condoleeza Rice has been given and presently holds the world too, right? And Colin Powell, he formerly was "given the world" also, right?
Ye gads! What a bizarre and fictional view of the world and the U.S. Government bob woodward expresses... I guess chasing folks around and getting to the bottom of the Watergate break-in, was never an indication of an understanding of the world and the functions of the U.S. Government, and was never enough mental activity either, to prevent the guy's brain from rotting and softening with age.
I always saw that as Bernstein's job. Woodward was the stenographer.
this is the crux:
"My assessment -- without having any knowledge, really -- "
like all the other "village people", mr. woodward, after admitting he has no clue what he's talking about, proceeds to opine, and no one says anything. at that point, he should have been stopped and smacked around. instead, he's given a podium to expound on that which he knows nothing about.
who do i have to bl*w to get an easy, and well paying, gig like that?
At least he admits he doesn't know what he's talking about unlike the majority of people on this blog.
Whatever happened to that Bob Woodward?
Hmmm... how about money, moolah, success, the craving for respectability and approval, for starters....? These kind of things are VERY important to some people on the Eastern Seaboard.
Plus, the natural deteriorating effect of age... Don't forget, too, that Woodward was the WASP, the conservative. It was Bernstein who was the 'good' guy, the progressive.
I just do not understand, sounds like you all should have just voted for Clinton, your getting the Clinton Administration.
But that's exactly the point. We're NOT getting the Clinton administration back, we're getting the Obama administration. If that was the case, then with George W. Bush, we would have had a combination of Nixon, Reagan, George HW Bush administrations, but instead, we got a disaster all of its own making.
See, here's the thing. It's not the Clinton administration. It will be the Obama administration, and while he will take counsel, and advice, ultimately, he, like W before him, will be the "decider". That's why it's different.
Aside from that, Obama talked about change, change from Bush.
"My assessment -- without having any knowledge, really -- "(Woodward)
I just do not understand (Markbfoot$1.99)
Why do you people insist on proving your ignorance right after admitting it?
$1.99 Oh, so funny.
Thanx, I'm glad you enjoyed it.Good job on understanding it.
They wanted Clinton, but they had to get a black in the White House. So they chose a a "yes man" that wouldn't care if the Clinton's ran everything behind the scenes.
Dude, you really need to stop blowing the pan flute. Your constant hyperventilation is starving your brain of needed oxygen.
BaHuObam is one of the greatest politicians that I have seen in my 70 years. That is saying something, because I grew up in Pittsburgh when Davie Lawrence was in charge. He is appointing HRC, not because she is the best, but to control her. Look at who he put in charge of the State tranisition team...she HATES HRC. Don't expect this guy to come through with even one of his campaign promises, because they are ALL LIES!
Heh, good satire. You sound just like a bitter old wingnut!
I agree, pretty good. The only place I'd nitpick is in the admission that the greatest politician ever tells nothing but lies. No Republican is that honest, no matter how old and addled.The trick is to pretend to believe it's the truth.
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this seems to only happen in california, nowhere else. is it possible those california lab animals are defective, and we're getting false-positives as a result?
One day they'll find out that it's captivity that causes cancer in lab animals, no matter where they are.
The only thing you left out of your rant is, "Hey, you kids, get off my lawn!"
Dear He is not the messiah,
We are about the same age, you're 70 and I'm 73. You must remember the Fisk Tire ads. "Time to retire." Time for you and your Obama haters to "retire" the tired, worn-out "messiah" thread. Obama was elected because he was a superior candidate that offered a better alternative to the hell of the last 8 years. If you really want to see a "messiah", watch again the videos of the drooling, screaming, snarling fans of McCain and Palin. That was a close call.
The Bowl Championship Series doesn't go away either
And that's comparable how exactly?
The BCS is a disaster, year in, and year out. Clinton's, for the most part, have done good work, unlike the BCS.
I love it when you try to make analogies, as they seldom ever work.
DaWuss is trying to win the Bowel Championship Series.
"My assessment -- without having any knowledge, really"
That pretty much says it all.
I love to hear liberals giving the Clintons a "cyber Lewinski"! Liberals are SO enamoured with two of the biggest liars in political history not to mention a married couple who embody all that is wrong with America! Bill embarassed his wife and daughter in front of the whole world and members of NOW continue to support him!!! Liberals have no core values!!!......." and we were dodging sniper bullets"?????---this is the LIAR liberals love---IMAGE WITH NO SUBSTANCE!!!!!
Sigtek, How dare you suggest that I am enamored by Bush and Cheney?
Bush and Cheney are married? No wonder they want to deprive the rest of the country of the same right.
It's just like Clarence Thomas, who used every Affirmative Action plan he could, then when he got to the top, he pulled that ladder up behind him.
It's the GOP way.
First of all, what did they lie about? Excluding Lewinsky, and the dodging sniper fir thing, you've got nothing. This makes them the biggest liars in political history? You can't be serious? Oh, then again, I'm sure that you are.
Why as a married couple do they embody all that is wrong with America? Let's see. They have a sex scandal to deal with, very publicly, during the time that Clinton is President. Hillary thinks about divorcing him, they don't. They reconcile, and now their marriage is stronger than ever. So what is wrong with that? Unless of course you don't think "for better or for worse" is something that married couples should abide by. Sure, he embaressed his wife and kid during this time, and I can't disagree with that. Why does NOW support him? Because he believes in what they stand for. It's got nothing to do with his personal life. It's funny that you proclaim that liberals have no core values, and yet, Bill and Hillary are still married, they raised an incredible daughter who is smart, and making waves in the world, you have Bill taking on philanthropy throughout the world battling things that are worth battling, they attended church together almost every weekend when he was President, and somehow, the Clinton's have no core values? How do you come up with this stuff?
Let's see, under Clinton we never lost any US soldiers to hostile action. Under Bush we've lost how many soliders? How many civilians due to hostile action? A lot is the answer you're looking for.
Under Clinton, the US enjoyed a rousing economy. Under Bush? Eh, not so much...
Clinton never sold arms to terrorists. Under Reagan, he did. Not to mention sanctioning death squads in Central America, letting terrorists decide when we were going to pull out of Lebannon, meeting and selling biological and chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein. Seems as though, Clinton didn't do any of those things.
Or, do you live in a world where all of the bad things that happened under republican Presidents were somehow the fault of other democrats?
The Clintons have a good image with the general population, ie, the majority of Americans. Look at Bill's approval ratings when he left office. Let's see, they were:
• 65% approval rating, after he went through impeachment and the mud that was slung his way.
Hillary's approval rating (current):
• 72% approval rating from the voters in NY, that elected her to the Senate.
You don't use facts to back up your assertions very well do you?
Mag, you probably shouldn't hold your breath waiting for your post to be countered with facts. You may get some capital letters and unnecessary punctuation wrapped around the usual dittobot talking points, but I'd say the odds are you'll get nothing .
"Let's see, under Clinton we never lost any US soldiers to hostile action. Under Bush we've lost how many soliders? How many civilians due to hostile action? A lot is the answer you're looking for."
Yes, because Bill was too much of a wimp to face the problem at hand. So instead we lost solders sitting on their hands doing nothing. U.S.S. Cole, or how about the soldiers that lost their lives in Somilia?
It was not Mud, it was the facts, but I guess saying facts is slinging mud to a liberal.
Here I will list just a few http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/LIES.html
OK, for some reason, I had forgotten about Somalia, and USS Cole. My apologies for those mistakes.
Oh, you do remember that Clinton did try to do something over in Bosnia, and what did he get? Pushback, and no support from the, yes, Republicans in Congress. He still did it, because it was right, and he didn't need the republicans to agree to it. You remember how your republican leadership decried the use of US troops in Bosnia, and over the skies of Bosnia don't you?
If you really want to know what happened, stop looking at silly websites like the one you've got listed, and read Ghost Wars as it pertains to terrorism, and how we got to 9/11, and what led us down that path. You might be enlightened, but I doubt it.
I'm pretty sure looking at your list of lies that Clinton spouted, that hardly any of those got, you know, 5000+ US soldiers killed. I'm just saying...
Is "Somilia" a suburb of Somalia?
"Let's see, under Clinton we never lost any US soldiers to hostile action. Under Bush we've lost how many soliders? How many civilians due to hostile action? A lot is the answer you're looking for."
Magnolia....
I agree with your post... accept for this one small part... Somalia... and while you are right that no other of our military died in actual action (accept Somalia)...that in no way injures your post.
My point is... when refuting rightwing lugnuts.... be sure to be precise on all the facts... of course... the soldiers/marines that died in Somalia died for a fairly good cause... Somalia was also not a war (excursion?) of made up reasons (like Iraq)... so perhaps the only thing you could have said differently was....
that no US military personal died in a mission that was not justified under Clinton where over 4000 have under Bush.... and you would still have been spot on!
See my above mea culpa for forgetting about Somalia for some reason. I don't know why that slipped my mind, Blackhawk Down being a favorite book of mine. And actually being friends with a guy who served with Shuggart.
Good point. Let's see.... how many died in the Blackhawk Down incident? 18? That is certainly 18 too many, but does anybody remember all the mental gymnastics the Wingnuts went through to dismiss the mounting casualties in Iraq?
I think it may have been Rush Limbaugh who pointed out that more had been killed in training accidents in WWII...then he went on to claim that Baghdad was no more dangerous than Detroit. Of course, these were the same people who vilified Clinton for losing 18 Rangers.
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds. Shame is a stranger to these hacks.
See, the thing is, when the whacko wing nuts were trying to tell us that Detroit was more dangerous than Baghdad, what they didn't take into account was the fact that they weren't counting ALL deaths in the city for a certain month. As in, they weren't counting dead Iraqis and then taking a percentage of that.
What they were doing in their funny math, was taking dead American servicemen and women (God rest their souls), and then taking a percentage of those killed as compared to the entire population of Iraq (not just Baghdad), and then not counting civilians killed. They weren't even taking the death percentages based on US troops in country at the time.
I've had this stupid argument with about 100 different crazed people who still want to claim that walking down the street in Detroit is more dangerous than walking down the street in Baghdad.
It's a ridiculous argument to make. Case in point. I was listening to NPR this morning, and they were on a tour of a local shop area in Baghdad that was supposed to be "safe". They went into a kebab shop to get some lunch, talk to the locals, and what happened? Their car got blown up in the 40 minutes they were in the shop.
I'm pretty sure no matter where you go in Detroit, that's not going to happen. Your car might go missing, but someone isn't going to blow it up in front of you trying to kill you.
The only parts of your car that may get blown up in Detroit are the tires, and then, only if they're low on air.
Magnolialover, here are more, I can keep this up all day.
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2008/03/25/bill-and-hillary-clintons-top-5-lies-to-voters-on-the-campaign-trail/
And again, these are lies that are inconsequential. Tell me one thing in there that really made a difference about, well, anything.
Compare with, "Saddam is trying to gain yellow cake uranium to make an atomic bomb."
Context my friend, context...
It never ceases to amaze me that the Troglodytes will trot out the "Clinton is a liar" mantra.... even after they saddled us with 8 years of the most dishonest and corrupt administration in recent history.
And you know what? If you dig enough, and parse enough of what ANYBODY says, we're all liars. It's the degree of lying. Am I going to stand here (or in this case, sit here), and say that Clinton (either of them) never lied? No, I honestly can't say that. Am I going to sit here and tell you that their lies were either "little white lies" or lies that didn't us to war? Yes, I am going to say that.
I'd be more than happy to tell you that everyone (not just politicians mind you, but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US) is a liar at some point in time or another. It's the width and breadth of those lies that really count.
I got shot at while flying into Bosnia. Doesn't affect anyone except for the person who said it.
Saddam was trying to get yellow cake uranium. Affects, the world...
speaking of lack of substance..............................
My assessment -- without having any knowledge, really
His entire Bush-era career in a handy nutshell. Thanks Bob.
One would hope that the economists who are consulted make their assesments with knowledge.
My vote for who needs to go away are those who make assesment without knowledge, as Woodward has been doing for years.
Anyone have any idea what he means by hot, cool, just right? Sounds like a nifty insight except that it's meaningless. Rest of his comments are total bs, too.
Charlie Parker, Thelonius Monk, Miles Davis?
Works for me.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081201/ap_on_re_us/obama_aids_1
Sorry bad formating
He's been closer to the center than the left from the beginning. That "most liberal" chant has always been a load of BS.
Hey BillJ-MN.....
Long time.....how ya been? and I don't want to discuss the Vikings 34-14 smack down of my Bears... :)
Exactly, like when they were yelling and screaming about how Hillary was super ultra left wing liberal, except that she, and Obama, were not, and are not. They are both centrists, and far too moderate in my opinion. I would LOVE for them to both be as liberal as pundits claim that they are/were, because then, I would like them both even more.
and neither do you bobbie You are so old school you have reached your use before date You lucked into being at the right place and followed through but you have become like that rash that stays way longer than we would like
"Without having any knowledge, really..." Doesn't that say enough?