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Wash. Times' Pruden: Clinton "suggested she has the equipment to be the manliest member" of Obama administration

December 02, 2008 11:23 am ET
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In his December 2 Washington Times column, in which he discussed President-elect Barack Obama's announcement of his "national security team," Times editor emeritus Wesley Pruden wrote that Sen. Hillary Clinton "suggested she has the equipment to be the manliest member of the entire Obama administration." Obama named Clinton as his choice to be secretary of state on December 1.

As Media Matters for America documented, on the June 9 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, contributor Michelle Bernard claimed that Clinton "ran as a man" during the 2008 presidential campaign, and in a 2007 column, The Wall Street Journal's Peggy Noonan asserted that Clinton "doesn't have to prove she's a man. She has to prove she's a woman."

From Pruden's December 2 Washington Times column:

Hillary Clinton, who suggested she has the equipment to be the manliest member of the entire Obama administration, invoked the campaign mantra right away, cheering an uneasy cult after those earlier appointments. She's not only for change, but "positive" change. She promised to work with the toy countries of the world to resolve global crises.

"The American people have demanded not just a new direction at home, but a new effort to renew America's standing in the world as a force for positive change," she said. She vowed to "reach out to the world again," to give the thirsty world a Coke after the drought of the Bush years.

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    • Author by fmbanker87 (December 02, 2008 11:36 am ET)
         

      This is so over the top.  More so than James Jones the Marine general.  I don't think so.  Her husband on foreign policy was terrible, why would she be better?

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 11:45 am ET)
           

        What are four sentence fragments that are unrelated to one another or the topic, Alex?

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        • Author by neon desert (December 02, 2008 3:31 pm ET)
             

          That is correct, Colonel.

          And the final clue...

          For $1000... Her educational accomplishments included a BA from Wellesley College for political science, and a juris doctorate from Yale law school, leading to gender-based attacks by adequacy-challenged and lesser-intellectual pundits and sycophants....

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 3:39 pm ET)
               

            Who is MissDee?

            (I always choke in the final round.)

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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (December 02, 2008 9:12 pm ET)
                 

              Who is someone who has never been in my kitchen?

              (I always seem to pull a Claven.)

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      • Author by tippy (December 02, 2008 3:23 pm ET)
           

        "Her husband on foreign policy was terrible"? WTF? Define terrible. Oh, wait - that's been defined for us pretty well over the last 8 years.

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    • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 11:36 am ET)
         

      The writing's not really bad for a junior high blog. What? The Washington Times? Oh, that's different, it's real top shelf stuff.

      Really, what's with all of these bizarre genitalia references towards Hillary from the wingnuts in the media? I consider myself a sexist pig, but  these columnists, even the women, make me feel like an Alan Alda / John Ritter hybrid. 

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      • Author by tippy (December 02, 2008 3:40 pm ET)
           

        You're right, Col. - Legions of men with little "man" complexes stand ready to jump on Hillary for her every move. They all so afraid of that big, big brain. 

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 3:48 pm ET)
             

          I noticed how many times Pruden used the word "soft" in his column. At least twice in the past few days I've heard righty talkers use the word "impotent", Dennis Prager referring to gun laws, and somebody else talking about Obama's proposed cuts to our bloated military.

          You have to wonder how much more obvious these guys would need to be in displaying their insecurities before they'd figure out what they're trying to compensate for.

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    • Author by truthseeker77 (December 02, 2008 12:02 pm ET)
         

      Is Maureen Dowd the new Washington Times Chief?

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    • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 12:06 pm ET)
         

      Side note to this thread, I'm glad as a NY taxpayer to be rid of this nitwit senator. Since she's been our jr. senator, she's done nothing, except maybe shine the seat with her ass every now and then. You can have her America. Good luck.

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 12:19 pm ET)
           

        Has the Empire State seceded, Dave?

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        • Author by neon desert (December 02, 2008 3:34 pm ET)
             

          I thawt conservatives WANTED less government...?

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          • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 3:56 pm ET)
               

            Maybe the seat-shining is unnecessary. I'm not sure about Dave's position on more/less government, I just know he likes money, and hates paying for things.

            Which is one of the bizarre fundamentals of Republo-thought that I've never been able to make sense of. Money only has one purpose, and that's to pay for stuff.For some reason, those most obsessed with accumulating it hate the idea of putting it to its intended purpose.

            I think it's just another avenue for that anal-retentive collector brain disorder, the same type who collect comic books and seal them in plastic, or who buy expensive cars and store them in a garage.

            I'm grateful I've never been afflicted with the disease, and hope that a cure is found some day. I get so tired of the whining.

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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (December 02, 2008 9:15 pm ET)
                 

              the same type who collect comic books and seal them in plastic

              I did that since junior high school, then sold them to make the down payment on our first house back in 1983.

              (We still only have one house, no McCain here, but that was the first one we bought.)

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      • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 12:54 pm ET)
           

        neo-con-tears_2fb40.jpg

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        • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 1:38 pm ET)
             

          That was pretty funny.

          I guess Libs do have a sense of humor when they're not whining about the trees, darter snails, oil, Halliburton, Bush, Rush, unions, Fairness Doctrine, profits, whales, etc. Its the whining that gets old.

          Still funny post, though.

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          • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 2:06 pm ET)
               

            Well, we do have our own song now so we can take athiesm off of that list of yours. ;)

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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 02, 2008 2:10 pm ET)
                 

              I thought Dave's comment was pretty funny, too. A long whiny list of things nobody's ever whining about, ending with a complaint about the whining  getting old. Bravo, Dave!

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              • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 2:27 pm ET)
                   

                C'mon Col. You guys on the left never whine about any of those things? That's how this website stays alive. The only thing I excluded was global warming, but only because I forgot about it....until now.

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                • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (December 02, 2008 2:50 pm ET)
                     

                  Actually it stays alive because conservative cannon fodder, like yourself are masochistic enough to raise your ugly head so that we can quickly take it off.

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                • Author by mefirst (December 02, 2008 6:29 pm ET)
                     

                  golly.  stop that whining right now about bush.  it's easy.  just ignore the fact that bush paid no attention to the warnings and we had 9-11, people drowning in new orleans while bush's homeland security chief says "we dodged a bullet because i saw the newspaper headlines", then bush lets osama go at tora bora when the reason we invaded afghanistan was to get him, then bush makes up a lot of hyped information about a nation that was not a military threat to us and invades that nation, costing us a trillion dollars for a war that was supposed to "pay for itself", and where we still find ourselves years after "mission accomplished", and our prestige has plunged world wide even among traditional allies, plus trillions more added to the credit card we call the national debt, and very mediocre job creation over eight years....   whine, whine, whine. 

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            • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 2:18 pm ET)
                 

              Atheism....not a problem. Abortion....not a problem, unless you make me pay for it. Snoop, I'm a Conservative. If it costs me money, I'm against it. Atheism, while cute, costs me nothing. Who cares. Have at it. I promise I won't try to convert you.

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              • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 2:23 pm ET)
                   

                If you're against anything that costs you money why are you supporting the war? Or a bloated military budget to build worthless gadgets reminiscent of Nazi Germany's wartime production? ;)

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                • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 2:29 pm ET)
                     

                  When have I ever been for the war? You have the wrong guy.

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                  • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (December 02, 2008 2:51 pm ET)
                       

                    Dave never leaves his gated mansion, so he doesn't care about the price of oil.  He's like Charles Foster Kane near the end.

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                  • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 2:56 pm ET)
                       

                    OK, I'll take your word on the war support but point being, you can't be against everything that costs you money. And some of the things you attribute to liberals don't cost you anything either, like darter snails or whales for instance.

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                    • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 3:06 pm ET)
                         

                      They don't save me anything, either.

                      I compare liberals to my dog. Albeit cute, he does nothing to contribute to the running of the household. He waits for free stuff and whines when he doesn't get it. Mrs. Dave likes him, though. That's why he is still here.

                      You cannot cut taxes unles you you cut spending. Is BHO ready to do so?

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                      • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 3:15 pm ET)
                           

                        Sounds like your position is in a constant state of flux. And they say liberals are wishy washy?

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                        • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 3:29 pm ET)
                             

                          What would you find "wishy-washy"? I'v e stated my case. I do not want BHO's poicy of higher taxes and handouts. I've also advised that BHO cannot reduce taxes unless he cuts spending. Where's my contridiction?

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                          • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 3:46 pm ET)
                               

                            Where in this thread did you state that? Was it in your mind when you started about saying you're glad to be rid of clinton, progressed to liberals whine about everything, diverted to say you are against anything that costs you money, and then refined your claim to include you are against something if it doesn't save you money either? Cause it sure ain't on paper for all to see here...

                            Obama Pictures and McCain Pictures

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                          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (December 02, 2008 9:19 pm ET)
                               

                            I do not want BHO's poicy of higher taxes and handouts.

                            Neither does "BHO."

                            Thanks for playing.

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                      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 02, 2008 3:30 pm ET)
                           

                        So you're saying if your wife wasn't around, you'd abandon that worthless, free-loading mongrel, kick him out on the streets?  You're a real stand-up guy.

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                        • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 3:41 pm ET)
                             

                          Yup

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                          • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 02, 2008 4:00 pm ET)
                               

                            You'd force more government spending on us by requiring the government to employ animal control officers.  Then I'm sure you'll whine about paying your taxes.

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                            • Author by dave (December 02, 2008 4:11 pm ET)
                                 

                              Not quite. I'd drop the good for nothing cocker spaniel off at the proper place. I do give money to them. Tax right off. No cost to the tax payer.

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                              • Author by OnceYouGoBarack (December 03, 2008 2:20 am ET)
                                   

                                A tax write-off does cost the rest of us taxpayers.  If you only lived in the vaccuum you seem to think surrounds you, we'd quickly be rid of you as your blood would boil and your lungs explode.

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              • Author by Brabantio (December 02, 2008 8:33 pm ET)
                   

                "Atheism, while cute, costs me nothing."

                What does "cute" mean here?  Just curious, it seems like very strange usage.

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                • Author by BillJ-MN (December 03, 2008 8:26 am ET)
                     

                  Judging by the way he applied the word to atheism and liberals, he must believe it means logical common sense.

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              • Author by commonsenseliberal (December 03, 2008 11:49 am ET)
                   

                "...I'm a Conservative. If it costs me money, I'm against it." - dave

                Well, if that's the case, when your house is burning down, the fire department shouldn't come to your rescue.  If your house has been burglarized, the police should deny you help.  Oh, and those nice smooth roads you drive on - get off of them.  These things cost you money - and evidently you're against them.  These are but a few of the things that cost ALL of us as being citizens of a civilized society.  Quit being a selfish jerk and pay your share like the rest of us.

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          • Author by Pyrrhonist (December 02, 2008 3:30 pm ET)
               

            What whining?  There's a lot of talk by Limbaugh, Hannity and their ilk about the liberal whining, but not a lot of actual whining.  The "Libs" have moved on, and the whining is coming from the wingnuts these days.  Who has time to whine? We have too much to do.

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      • Author by tippy (December 02, 2008 3:24 pm ET)
           

        And we're happy to have her.  Thanks!

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    • Author by Victor Colorado (December 02, 2008 12:29 pm ET)
         

      Um... considering that it's the male gender that's responsible for the tattered US economy and the global campaign to kill first and ask questions later, Sec. Clinton should be pointing out that she does not have equipment that her male counterparts like to whip out and wave at the world's problems.

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    • Author by DAWUSS (December 02, 2008 12:32 pm ET)
         

      Wesley Pruden wrote that Sen. Hillary Clinton "suggested she has the equipment to be the manliest member of the entire Obamaadministration."

      The next question is, how the hell did he find that out?

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    • Author by shaggles (December 02, 2008 1:15 pm ET)
         

      Like Obama (and pretty much all Democrats) Clinton is damned if she does and damned if she doesn't.  She cries and everyone is asking "Is she going to start crying in negotiations with Putin?"  But then she's too masculine too.  Give me a break.  I don't recall this type of sh!t being directed at Condi Rice and she ain't exactly miss femininity.  I'm also a little put off by the "toy countries" reference.  What does that even mean?

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (December 02, 2008 2:00 pm ET)
         

      Men men men, its a ship all filled with men.

      So throw the ladies head overboard, there's no one here but men.

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    • Author by leftinmississippi (December 02, 2008 3:19 pm ET)
         

      It's the Washington Times - of course it's garbage.

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 02, 2008 3:31 pm ET)
           

        I stopped buying it once I found out about toilet paper.  Much softer...

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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (December 02, 2008 9:23 pm ET)
             

          And it doesn't leave that orange stripe on one's ass...

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