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December 02, 2008 4:19 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Hannity & Colmes, Sean Hannity asserted that Al Franken is "trying to steal the election" because the Franken campaign "has been trying to challenge ballots that are clearly for Norm Coleman." Hannity subsequently aired several examples of ballots contested by Franken. However, Hannity did not display any of the published examples of ballots that the Coleman campaign has challenged that appear to be marked for Franken or another candidate besides Coleman.

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On the December 1 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes, co-host Sean Hannity asserted that in the Minnesota Senate recount, challenger Al Franken (D) "has been trying to challenge ballots that are clearly for [incumbent Sen.] Norm Coleman [R]," adding, "That is stealing an election." Subsequently, Hannity aired several examples of ballots that the Franken campaign has contested and said to former Rep. John Kasich (R-OH): "I'm gonna put up on the screen -- and I want Al Franken to sue me, because for him to challenge these ballots that are so clearly, you know, for Norm Coleman, I think it shows that he's trying to steal the election." However, Hannity did not display any of the published examples of ballots that the Coleman campaign has challenged that appear to be marked for Franken or another candidate besides Coleman.

Later, former Hillary Clinton campaign adviser Kiki McLean said to Hannity: "Sean, I'd like to know that you actually spent the time looking at the ballots that Norm Coleman has tried to have dismissed. Have you?" She also said: "My question to you is have you reviewed all the ballots that Norm Coleman has tried to throw out?" Hannity replied: "I've reviewed a number of them, but I don't see any that are this obvious." But Hannity again did not show his viewers any of the ballots Coleman has challenged.

As Media Matters for America has noted, a Minnesota Public Radio article, originally published November 19, provided some examples of ballots that the Coleman campaign has challenged along with reporting on the reason for the challenge:

The Coleman campaign challenged this ballot [on November 19], arguing the voter didn't intend to vote for Franken, because of the small dot inside the bubble next to Dean Barkley's name.

Ballot 1

[...]

The Coleman campaign kept this ballot from going in the 'Other' pile. They argued that while the voter filled in the bubble next to Dean Barkley, the voter had intended to vote for Coleman because of the small dot inside Coleman's bubble.

Ballot 2

Minnesota Public Radio has updated the article. As of December 1, the following ballots (and associated reported reasons for the challenges) are among those that the article provides:

The Coleman campaign challenged this ballot from Hopkins, saying the voter's intent was not clear. The voter put an "X" next to some candidates' names in some races, while filling in the oval in other races. (Secretary of State's Office)

Ballot 3

[full ballot available here]

[...]

The Coleman campaign challenged this Maple Grove ballot, saying the voter's intent was not clear. The voter circled the word "Democratic" beneath Al Franken's name and did the same in the presidential race beneath "Barack Obama and Joe Biden". (Secretary of State's Office)

Ballot 4

[full ballot available here]

[...]

The Coleman campaign challenged this ballot from Plymouth, saying the voter's ballot was "not filled out completely." The voter marked an oval to the right of the candidates' names instead of marking inside the oval outline to the left. (Secretary of State's Office)

Ballot 5

[full ballot available here]

The Franken campaign has also released examples of ballots challenged by the Coleman campaign, which include the following:

Ballot 6
Ballot 7
Ballot 8
Ballot 9
Ballot 10
Ballot 11

According to the office of the Minnesota secretary of state, as of December 1, 2008, the Coleman campaign has challenged more ballots than has the Franken campaign, with the Coleman campaign challenging 3,067 ballots, and the Franken campaign challenging 2,876 ballots.

As Media Matters has documented, Hannity asserted on November 24, "I have all of these different ballots that he's questioning that clearly are Norm Coleman ballots, clearly, and he's questioning them because he's trying to litigate his way into the Senate seat." But, as on December 1, Hannity did not note that Coleman is challenging ballots that appear to be marked for Franken.

From the December 1 edition of Fox News' Hannity & Colmes:

HANNITY: All right, let's talk about the danger, John Kasich, even though, if -- if Al Franken -- and we'll get into this in the next segment. I think Al Franken's been trying to challenge ballots that are clearly for Norm Coleman. That is stealing an election, and we'll get to that in the next segment.

[...]

HANNITY: Well, the recount is almost over, and with Republican incumbent Norm Coleman still in the lead, it looks increasingly difficult for the Democratic challenger, Al Franken, to win without some funny business. Last week the state canvassing board denied a request by the not-so-funny former funnyman to reconsider rejected absentee ballots. Franken, the failed radio host, needs to win at least 6 percent of his contested ballots, and with election officials saying it doesn't look likely, it seems the Minnesota mess might end up in court or the U.S. Senate. We continue now with our panel.

John Kasich, I'm gonna put up on the screen -- and I want Al Franken to sue me, because for him to challenge these ballots that are so clearly, you know, for Norm Coleman, I think it shows that he's trying to steal the election.

Look at that one right there. Norm Coleman, colored in full. You know, look at the ones -- Norm Coleman, you know, colored in full there. It's obvious -- here it is. Al Franken crossed out. It seems to me that, in many ways, I think that, you know, if you don't have the honor, integrity, and decency, should the United States Senate get involved? Should the courts get involved further?

KASICH: No, I think you've gotta let Minnesota law determine the way they count it, Sean, because if you don't let the law determine what you do here, it's like going out in the woods without a compass. It's easy to get lost.

And it -- it would be unbelievable if the United States Senate would refuse to seat Norm Coleman if -- if he ends up winning this recount, which it appears he will. I would predict the United States Senate will keep hands off, because, boy, you talk about -- you talk about toxicity. That would be a disaster if they were to get involved. So, what I think will happen is, ultimately, Minnesota law will be the law of the land, and -- and we'll have a fair recount.

HANNITY: And Kiki, do you want the U.S. Senate to get involved?

KIKI McLEAN (former Hillary Clinton campaign adviser): You know what? I think that what we ought to do is make sure that all the ballots are counted. I'd like to know, Sean, if you actually spent --

HANNITY: I get that. Do you -- when do you want the U.S. Senate involved?

McLEAN: Sean, I'd like to know that you actually spent the time looking at the ballots --

HANNITY: Oh, good grief.

McLEAN: -- that Norm Coleman has tried to have dismissed. Have you?

HANNITY: Kiki, I asked you a simple question. Do you want --

McLEAN: Have you looked at those?

HANNITY: Do you want the U.S. Senate involved?

McLEAN: Sean -- I want --

HANNITY: Can you just answer the question?

McLEAN: I want the law -- I want the -- Sean, I'd like the laws followed. And I'd like you to answer my question.

HANNITY: Oh, OK --

McLEAN: Did you review all the ballots that Norm Coleman has tried to throw out?

HANNITY: -- welcome to "The Kiki McLean Show." Go ahead, Kiki. What's your question?

McLEAN: My question to you is have you reviewed all the ballots that Norm Coleman has tried to throw out?

HANNITY: I've reviewed a number of them, but I don't see any that are this obvious.

McLEAN: You've reviewed a number of them?

HANNITY: For -- can I tell you?

McLEAN: You've gone -- you've gone there and you've looked? [inaudible]

HANNITY: Now, I'll go back to my question, considering the show is still called Hannity & Colmes. Do you want the United States Senate involved?

McLEAN: I think that we ought to follow the law and what the courts say.

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    • Author by SaddamHussein (December 02, 2008 4:27 pm ET)
         
      FOX hates Al Franken. But then again I think many who voted for Obama do not particularly care for someone who is so unqualified to be a senator. I for one do not want the Dems to get to 60, our nation has had enough division the past 8 years. I think that is why Obama has a real chance at making America great again.
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      • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 4:40 pm ET)
           

        Not me, 60 would be just fine. I'm for anything that will break the backs of the right wing hold on the republican party.

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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (December 02, 2008 5:19 pm ET)
             

          I would love to see 60. Specially since a discussion on a radio show highlighted a new law creating a military response team of 25000 armed soldiers dedicated to deal with terrorrism and other national disasters. the language allows for a dictatorship to be facilitaded in this country. What if the Bush/Cheney guys decide on Jan 19, 2009 there is a national disaster about to happen and military troops get deployed with M16, bazookas, RPG and other toys used to control the polpulation ? Like they did in 1972 at Kent State University !

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      • Author by deeznuts (December 02, 2008 4:46 pm ET)
           

        A filibuster-proof majority is just what we need to get some decent legislation past the obstructionist Republicans.

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    • Author by deeznuts (December 02, 2008 4:46 pm ET)
         

      Classic Hannity.

      Coleman and Franken have challenged a near-equal number of ballots between them. But according to Hannity and the rest of the Wingnut-o-sphere, it's Franken who's trying to "steal" the election.

      From what I've seen on various MN media outlets (and here on MMFA) the questionable challenges have come mostly from the Coleman camp.

      Sorry, but a completely-filled-in bubble and a tiny dot in another bubble is not a contestable-able ballot.

      Again, I direct everyone to Degausser for a breakdown of how Minnesota law defines voter intent and contestable ballots.

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    • Author by shaggles (December 02, 2008 5:09 pm ET)
         

      Nice.  I usually don't read these Hannity things to the end because it's too painful trying to follow his logic.  This time I jumped to the end and McLean was great.  You know you've got him on the ropes when he starts saying things like 'Oh is it your show now?  I thought it was my show?'  And yeah Sean.  I'm sure you reviewed ballots that haven't been published anywhere but you missed those that have been.  My question is this:  Is Sean Hannity the a) stupidest man on television, b) stupidest man in America, or c) stupidest man who ever lived?

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (December 02, 2008 5:21 pm ET)
           

        I honestly doubt whether anyone but the terminally stupid still listen to what Hannity says.

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      • Author by albertsenj (December 03, 2008 3:30 am ET)
           

        I don't really think that SEAN is stupid but, he apparently is able to fool enough folks for Fox to want to keep him on the air.

        Now, about that Fairness Doctrine

        Actually, that wouldn't apply to Fox News, only to broadcase media. But it would put the kibosh on Rush, Savage and both Hannity and O'Reilly's radio shows.

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (December 02, 2008 5:17 pm ET)
         

      Sean can certainly be hypocritical, but would Coleman be challenging these ballots if there wasn't a recount in the first place? Coleman has never trailed in this race.

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      • Author by Disputed Zone (December 02, 2008 5:27 pm ET)
           

        Are you sure Coleman has never trailed? If the first vote counted was for Franken, then he did. The only time it really matters who is ahead and who is behind is when all the votes are tallied. We'll know who won after the recount, which was required by law for such a close election, is completed.

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 02, 2008 6:10 pm ET)
             

          I think Dex's point was that Coleman would have never stooped to challenging the ballots had Franken conceded.Or something like that.

          (BTW Craig, if you didn't see my thank-u note for RWCW, thanks!)

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          • Author by Disputed Zone (December 02, 2008 7:02 pm ET)
               

            I figured that was what Dex meant. He should talk to Virgil Goode in Virginia who is requesting a recount at taxpayer expense. And he trailed by a bigger margin than Franken after the initial count. Not that I blame Goode - it probably won't be as easy for him to make a living demonizing Muslims in the private sector.

            And I did see your note. I like Batocchio's commentary too. Very knowledgeable.

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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (December 02, 2008 6:09 pm ET)
           

        Sean can certainly be hypocritical, but would Coleman be challenging these ballots if there wasn't a recount in the first place? Coleman has never trailed in this race - dex

        But there is a recount.  Which I was under the impression was automatically triggered due to the closeness of the final count after the first time round. 

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      • Author by snoopy (December 02, 2008 7:35 pm ET)
           

        Coleman was never certified either, but that didn't stop coleman from claiming Franken is trying to steal his hard won non-existant victory.

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        • Author by deeznuts (December 03, 2008 12:11 am ET)
             

          Let's not forget the wingnut meme that "Franken is wasting the taxpayers' money on this expensive recount."

          This expensive recount which is mandated by Minnesota law.

          This expensive, statutorily mandated recount over which Franken has no control.

          Honestly, do right-wingers listen to themselves?

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          • Author by shaggles (December 03, 2008 11:27 am ET)
               

            I remember Coleman calling for Franken to concede a day or two after the election.  Nice try.  I suppose if he'd conceded the recount wouldn't be required so in that sense the Reps can claim that it's Franken's doing but come on.  Would Coleman have conceded if Franken had won the initial vote count by only 200?  I think not.

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    • Author by newzhound (December 02, 2008 7:57 pm ET)
         

      Sheer Insannity is an instand expert.  He says "I've never seen a case such as this one..." as if he's been in court a thousand times.

      About these ballots he says "I have all of these different ballots that he's questioning that clearly are Norm Coleman ballots..."  Note the "I have..." like he's Woodward or Bernstein, out there pounding the pavement to get the inside story.  Does he think his audience is so stupid they can't use Google themselves?  Or read The Sludge Report or the RNC Talking Points - so he has to read 'em to them?

      Since he does it I guess he does...

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    • Author by jbraskin4786 (December 02, 2008 8:46 pm ET)
         

      And if Franken was in the lead and Coleman was challenging the results, what would Hannity be saying?  He's even more desperate now than he was before the election.  His entire political philosophy has gone up in flames, and Seanie is grasping at what few straws remain.

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    • Author by albertsenj (December 03, 2008 3:46 am ET)
         

      Two things

      First, I just went to the linked website and looked at about 6 ballots that Coleman is challenging because he claims 'voter intent' isn't clear. Most of these ballots clearly have nothing in the Coleman oval and are heavily marked in the Franken oval. Some have NO markings in the Senate race at all. Best guess: Coleman is trying to swamp the proceedings with frivolous challenges in the hopes that they will just count challenged ballots without regard to the validity of the challenges.

      Second - Sean knows that, as a public figure Franken hasn't got a shot in hell of winning a slander suit against him. Sean is 'bravely issuing a challenge' he knows can't be answered. Makes him sound tough to people who don't know any better but, in reality, it doesn't mean squat.

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    • Author by BillJ-MN (December 03, 2008 9:18 am ET)
         
      Update: 92.7% of ballots have been recounted. RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Coleman (as recounted) 1119878 41.38 RECOUNT Number of Ballots for Franken (as recounted) 1122413 41.47 RECOUNT Number of All Other Ballots (as recounted) 458290 16.93 RECOUNT COLEMAN and Other Ballots Challenged By FRANKEN 2910 0.11 RECOUNT FRANKEN and Other Ballots Challenged By COLEMAN 3093 0.11 The fact is that almost all of the challenged ballots will be counted. That would mean a gain of about another 180 for Franken. That would assume that both camps were equally frivolous in their challenges. Franken's camp claims to have been less so. The two largest counties remaining to be recounted went heavily to Coleman, so he'll gain back much of the deficit you see above. Whichever side this ends up on, it'll be close. Very possibly within 100 votes.
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      • Author by BillJ-MN (December 03, 2008 9:20 am ET)
           

        From now on, anytime I want to put in a non-reply post with formatting, I'll put in an initial dummy post that I can reply to.  Why can't we have the formatting menu available for original posts?

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (December 03, 2008 11:27 am ET)
             

          Bill, I don't think it has to do with the reply or non-rply. There just seems to be a randomness to the boxes not having he formatting tools.Since I'm ame with the HTML tags, I just type f@*%#n defect reply box! in the first one, then reply to that.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (December 03, 2008 12:19 pm ET)
         

      More garbage from the GOP's number one gagbage pedeler,SHEER INSANNITY.

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