Heads still in the "clouds": Media continue to use term to baselessly link Obama to Blagojevich scandal
SUMMARY: In the absence of any allegations of wrongdoing by President-elect Barack Obama or his staff in connection with the scandal involving Gov. Rod Blagojevich, media figures continue to warn that a "cloud" hangs over Obama or assert that the scandal threatens to cast a "cloud" over Obama's presidency.
On December 14, Media Matters for America compiled a list of media figures who have warned that a "cloud" hangs over President-elect Barack Obama because of the scandal involving Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich (D) or asserted that the scandal threatens to cast a "cloud" over Obama's presidency, despite the absence of any actual allegations of wrongdoing by Obama or his staff. On December 14 and 15, numerous other media figures made similar "cloud" references, even while, in some cases, acknowledging there is no evidence that Obama or members of his staff have done anything wrong.
For example:
- On the December 15 edition of MSNBC Live, anchor Andrea Mitchell asked New York Times correspondent Jeff Zeleny, concerning Illinois House Speaker Mike Madigan's announcement that the state Legislature is forming a bipartisan committee to consider possibly impeaching Blagojevich: "Jeff, how does this affect, first of all, the president-elect, and all of the controversies that are now swirling around the Illinois governor? Does it create a cloud just because it's, you know, more confusion about the situation in terms of who will succeed him?"
- On the December 15 edition of MSNBC Live, co-host Contessa Brewer played a clip from MSNBC's Morning Joe in which former White House chief of staff Andy Card said, "Hopefully the transparency will come quickly so that Rahm Emanuel can do the job of chief of staff without having a cloud following around, or hanging over his head." Brewer then commented, "But it just seems like -- you know, the cloud is not just over Rahm Emanuel. If there -- if there were more to these contacts than meets the eye, isn't the whole cloud on the incoming administration?"
- On the December 15 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe, MSNBC contributor Pat Buchanan discussed the possibility that Emanuel has been instructed to remain silent about the Blagojevich scandal, and said, "You don't tell -- with due respect, you're chief of staff to the president of the United States. You say, 'Look, I understand your imperatives; we've got them, too. There's a cloud of suspicion over the president-elect that doesn't belong there, and I'm going to clear it up whether you like it or not.' " As Media Matters noted, on the December 12 edition of MSNBC's 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Buchanan similarly asserted: "I think there's a real cloud developing over the Obama team. You've got three top advisers -- Valerie Jarrett, [David] Axelrod, and Rahm Emanuel -- whom you would think would be in touch or might be in touch with the governor about this -- who's going to replace -- who's going to replace Barack Obama in the Senate."
- On the December 14 edition of Fox News' Hannity's America, Sean Hannity said of the Blagojevich scandal, "All right, it's not an easy thing when you start out an administration -- and now we've got this ethical cloud hanging over the head of not only Senator Obama -- or President-elect Obama, but, you know, all of those people around him."
- During the December 14 edition of CNN's Reliable Sources, host Howard Kurtz asked Chicago Tribune correspondent John McCormick, "[S]hould the press be pursuing a lot of the unanswered questions here about these interconnections among these Democratic politicians?" McCormick responded, "Mr. Emanuel's been under a cloud all week. He may be -- he may just be, you know, absolutely innocent of anything. But yes, I think we've got to chase the political -- the same story, by the way, reported that that list of acceptable candidates didn't include Jesse Jackson Jr., another interesting -- another interesting theme. Why not?"
- On December 14, The Washington Times' Donald Lambro reported: "Mr. Obama has said that no one in his transition team was in involved [sic] in the scandal engulfing Mr. Blagojevich and has begun an internal investigation to see whether anyone else connected with his campaign may have spoken to the governor or his staff about filling his Senate seat. ... But last week, Republicans were not waiting for Mr. Obama's report and stepped up a drumbeat of statements about the scandals that have created a dark cloud over the Democrats as they prepare to take the reins of power next month."
As Media Matters has noted, U.S. attorney Patrick Fitzgerald stated during a December 9 press conference that the criminal complaint against Blagojevich "makes no allegations about the president-elect whatsoever -- his conduct," and Fitzgerald cautioned the press to "not cast aspersions on people for being named or being discussed or if you learn they're being interviewed."
From the December 15 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:
MARK HALPERIN (Time senior political analyst): The other thing that is true is there's no indication that Fitzgerald thinks there's anything legally wrong with what Rahm Emanuel or any of the other Obama aides did. There might be some political issues, but there's no legal jeopardy there.
BUCHANAN: Why, then, can't he do as Jesse Jackson did, come forward and say, "Yeah, I had eight or 10 conversations with the staff guy, we talked about who we preferred, some we might not have preferred. I don't want to get into the details of it. There was no deal offered. There was no deal made. We wouldn't be part of a deal."
MIKA BRZEZINSKI (co-host): Yeah. That would be so easy to say.
BUCHANAN: And that's it. Let the prosecutor go forward.
HALPERIN: Obama has said the first part, there wasn't any deal --
BUCHANAN: I know, but where's Rahm?
HALPERIN: Well, I think Obama's statement covers what Rahm said. The problem is, the guy's about to be running the government, in charge of the Justice Department that's going to be investigating this, and I'm sure that every lawyer that work for the U.S. Attorney's office, including Patrick Fitzgerald, and every lawyer who works for the transition is telling Obama and Rahm and the other people there, "You cannot speak out and not become part of the investigation."
BUCHANAN: You don't tell -- with due respect, you're chief of staff to the president of the United States. You say, "Look, I understand your imperatives; we've got them, too. There's a cloud of suspicion over the president-elect that doesn't belong there, and I'm going to clear it up whether you like it or not."
HALPERIN: If the facts are as they have suggested they are, that all that happened was that they had political conversations about, "here's who we like to see, who are you thinking about?" If that eventually comes out, which is what some people think is gonna eventually come out, then this is not a big problem.
BUCHANAN: Why doesn't it come out now?
HALPERIN: Because they have to get the facts, and they have to make sure Fitzgerald is comfortable.
JOE SCARBOROUGH (co-host): OK, OK, that's where -- here's the --
From the 1 p.m. ET hour of the December 15 edition of MSNBC Live:
MITCHELL: Mike Madigan, the House Speaker in Illinois announcing that he is creating a bipartisan impeachment committee. Jeff Zeleny, political correspondent with The New York Times who's been tracking all of this and the new administration, the transition as well. Jeff, how does this affect, first of all, the president-elect, and all of the controversies that are now swirling around the Illinois governor? Does it create a cloud just because it's, you know, more confusion about the situation in terms of who will succeed him?
ZELENY: Well, at the very least, it creates just one more sort of bump in the road as the Obama side is trying to announce the rest of the members of their Cabinet. Initially, President-elect Obama thought being in Chicago would be a good home base for them, would take them out of Washington. Now, there's no question: They cannot get to Washington soon enough, to leave this sort of scandal, if you will, behind them in the dust.
From the 9 a.m. hour of the December 15 edition of MSNBC Live:
BREWER (anchor): You know, they were talking about -- a lot of these politicos, Chuck, talking about how Emanuel was a perfect fit for the job of chief of staff because you have to be willing to play some hardball. You have to go in, you have to strong-arm some people in order to get what the president wants done. That being said, here's what former White House chief of staff Andy Card said on Morning Joe specifically regarding these reported contacts between Emanuel and Blagojevich.
CARD [video clip]: I hope that there will be more transparency as we go forward. Hopefully the transparency will come quickly so that Rahm Emanuel can do the job of chief of staff without having a cloud following around, or hanging over his head. But I'm confident that Rahm Emanuel understands what this means in terms of credibility, and that he's going to do everything he can to make sure the sun will shine rather than the cloud rain.
BREWER: But it just seems like -- you know, the cloud is not just over Rahm Emanuel. If there -- if there were more to these contacts than meets the eye, isn't the whole cloud on the incoming administration?
CHUCK TODD (NBC News political director): Well, I think that's -- we're --- we can't jump to -- excuse me, jump to a conclusion like that, because we still don't know exactly what the conversation was between Rahm Emanuel and Blagojevich. I mean, if there was anything to it that somehow they -- they -- the Obama folks knew that Blagojevich was trying to do something like this and they turn the other way, even passively deciding, "You know what? We're not dealing with this, we're not playing ball with him because he's going to do something crazy with this, illegal. We might as well wait until he's out of there to start dealing with him." You know, that -- that could bring the Obama administration under some criticism.
From the December 14 edition of Fox News' Hannity's America:
HANNITY: And welcome to Hannity's America. We get right to our top story this evening: The state of Illinois is finding themselves at the center of a political corruption scandal again. Governor Rod Blagojevich was arrested earlier this week and is currently out on bail for allegedly trying to sell Barack Obama's Senate seat. Now, Obama has said that he never had any discussions with the governor about who should fill the seat, but is this just another example of an Illinois politician and political scandal, which President-elect Obama is gonna have to distance himself from?
And joining us now with reaction is former Bush adviser Karl Rove. Welcome back to Hannity's America, sir. Glad you're with us.
KARL ROVE (Fox News contributor): Great to be with you.
HANNITY: All right, it's not an easy thing when you start out an administration -- and now we've got this ethical cloud hanging over the head of not only Senator Obama -- or President-elect Obama, but, you know, all of those people around him. And we've got the contradictory remarks between him and Axelrod as it relates to whether he spoke to the governor of Illinois or not. How big an issue is this gonna be as they make their way to the White House?
ROVE: Yeah. Well, look, I have to assume when they come out, as they said, definitively on Wednesday that Axlerod did -- misspoke, they were so definitive in that, that's gotta be something that they stand by. But, look, let's be clear: No evidence whatsoever that President Obama was involved in this, but do remember this: Rod Blagojevich ran for governor of Illinois with Senator -- then-state Senator Barack Obama's very strong, enthusiastic, upfront and out-front support.
From the December 14 edition of CNN's Reliable Sources:
KURTZ: John McCormick in Chicago. Is the press and should the press be pursuing a lot of the unanswered questions here about these interconnections among these Democratic politicians?
McCORMICK: A fascinating thing is going on in the legal realm, but also in the political realm. The Tribune had a story Saturday morning, Friday night, talking about FBI recordings of Rahm Emanuel speaking with, I believe, John Harris, the governor's chief of staff, delivering a list of candidates who would be acceptable to the president-elect as replacements.
Well, as far as that goes, that's fine. But, you know, was there anything -- you know, Mr. -- Mr. Emanuel's been under a cloud all week. He may be -- he may just be, you know, absolutely innocent of anything. But yes, I think we've got to chase the political -- the same story, by the way, reported that that list of acceptable candidates didn't include Jesse Jackson Jr., another interesting -- another interesting theme. Why not?















Quick, name a scandal that the media elites speculated would "taint" George W. Bush, especially while it was happening. I can't either.
Illegal wiretapping? Nope
Torture? Nope
Going to war under false pretenses? Nope
Katrina? Nope
Valerie Plame? Nope
Apparently "taint" doesn't apply to Republicans.
And now 45% of voters believe that Barack Obama has something to do with Blagojevich's scandal...despite no evidence linking him to it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/15/obama-blagojevich-scandal_n_151124.html
Amazing...just freakin' amazing!
OMG.
Thank you for the link
What is next now, Obama is related to the shoe being tossed at Bush.
The American people are so damm stupid.
This will pass, but what residual effect might there be? I know Obama can handle himself, but do we really need perpetual political fighting at this juncture? I seem to recall we have a looming financial crisis and two wars in progress.
This will pass, but what residual effect might there be? I know Obama can handle himself, but do we really need perpetual political fighting at this juncture? I seem to recall we have a looming financial crisis and two wars in progress.
Not all of them are stupid, just the ones who continually vote republican.
Jeter, Oscar and Wes excluded.
Strange poll, Irony. asking people if they think it's "likely" that Obama is involved. Sort of a fact-free "feelings" survey, and probably saying more about what the media is doing than what people who are paying attention believe.
Bottom line is that while some of these folks are doctrinaire right-wingers look for a way to cut down anybody to the left of Dick Cheney, for most of them they're just bored, like little children in a house full of toys on a sunny day whining "There's nothing to do!"
Scandals are fun and they make reputations. So media folks are always ready and willing to sniff out scandals even where they by all appearances don't exist - because god forbid someone should "get out in front of them" on a story, since being in front is more important than being right.
A footnote because I meant to say this as well: Even a cloud is made of something.
They sure passed up a plethera of scandals over the last eight years.
I think most folks have enough trouble looking at them up close and personal, to have much time for this overly hyped inuendo. Ve shall see if the jello sticks, yah?
No kidding. How many times did we hear about mislaid sensative data, laptops et al and not a single peep from the right wing? I swear they could kill babies on national tv and morons like Hannity would find some excuse for them.
charlie'spuppy,
Yeah, and that was only part of what was found in Sandy Berger's pants!
Oh PC, we ain't talkin bout the Clinton years. We're discussing the bush years where issues like this outnumbered Sandy pants...
Dear President-elect,
Please release your report before next week. The clouds will only gather more strength in the meantime.
Dear all of a sudden demand for transparency,
Please clean up your own house first. And put all those crooked @sses you voted for behind bars. There is far more corruption in your back yard than you will ever find in Obama's.
redbaronnemisis,
Evidence please.
PC, you first.
beagleboy,
If it is good enough for his lawyer to say it, why does he delay his own explanation?
http://news.aol.com/article/obama-vows-quick-probe-of-contacts-with/274552?cid=39
I showed you mine, now you show me yours!
because the prosecutor asked him to delay releasing it, and "fitzgerald confirmed the request". seen enough?
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/12/obama-names-environment-team.html
Thats supposed to be "took such a drubbing".
The "Preview" button is sorely missed.
Foxnews.com--5 minutes ago.
Headline on homepage--
Obama Says He's Withholding Review of Blago Contacts
Headline on article page--
Obama Says He's Withholding Internal Review of Blagojevich Contact at Attorney's Request
1st paragraph of article--
President-elect Barack Obama said Monday that he is withholding, for now, an internal review of his staff's contact with the office of Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich at the request of the U.S. attorney handling the governor's corruption case.
No doubt Obama is hoping to delay this report long enough so that it'll get lost in the Christmas faldera.
Blagojevich's refusal to step down as Gov. is going to allow the Republicans to investigate all connections, including Rahm Emanuel's dealings with Blagojevich and Illinois politics. My guess is this is the tip of the iceBlag.
that's all you do is "guess".
I disagree. There is no conspiracy to get Obama. His race has nothing to do with it.
My feeling is that Fitzgerald brought charges against Blagojevich now because he wanted to shut down Blagojevich before he appointed a new Senator, who would then be tainted once the chargers were filed and feels he has enough evidence to get a conviction.
JJJr was simply caught up in Chicago style politics and trying to play the game the way his father taught him and the way Blago, Obama, Emanuel, and Daley all play it. Again, nothing to do with race, just old style Chicago politics seeing the light of day.
It looks to me like Obama was tipped off by someone about the Blago investigation with his about face on Jarrett. How else do you explain why hardball players like Emanuel on Obama's team not pursue a Senate appointment in Obama's own State? Blagojevich is in deep doodoo and the Obama team ran from it post haste. However the spotlight will be on the transition team member who was negotiating with the Gov. Maybe they got out in time with only their shoes dirty.. .but maybe they are also in it up to their necks like JJJr.
Thanks for the laughs, AA. I realize you're doing a tinfoil-hat wacko parody but, believe it or not, your satire isn't too far off from the rantings of Hannity and Hewitt.
Respectfully I totally disagree with you. Fitzgerald brought charges because it was convenient and timely. He knew Chicago politics was corrupt and he had Blago under investigation for years. But now he wants to charge him with something? I bet you any money Fitzgerald have plenty scandalous statements on tape, statements Blago made long before the Senate seat scandal. What about all those years leading up to the present?
Fitzgerald felt free to call Chicago corrupt only because he was aware Obama was from Chicago. If Chicago is so corrupt why this one incident warrant charges? Is it because he was feeding the media what they wanted. We know what the media wants. They want to taint or discredit Obama, hell, I know that. I wouldn't put it past him. Fitzgerald is a man without integrity or credibility and we all know he doesn't want another black man in the Illinois Senate seat.
You are free to believe what you want, but I know it is a reason why people do things that doesn't make sense, especially professional people in key position. Fitzgerald could shut the media down if he wants; since he said Obama is not under investigation. All he has to do is make it perfect clear that the investigation has nothing to do with Obama and that his focus is on the man he charged with a crime. But this is what a professional do knowing a man's career and reputation is on the line. Does he do that? No, he would rather keep the saga going knowing as long as it goes on it will reflect on Obama negatively. That's why he told Obama not to relief his internal report for another week. In the meantime the cloud of suspicion will continue to follow Obama and his administration. Fitzgerald knows this and I know it and those who don't are playing dumb.
One of the reasons a link makes no sense is that there's absolutely nothing in it for Obama. What possible advantage could Obama have for letting Blagojevich extort money for himself from the appointment?
He'd be making the appointment a crapshoot; he'd be lessening his personal power; he'd be alienating the other Senatorial hopefuls even if it had never gone public.
The only possible reason anybody would sit still for something like this would be to reward a friend--and Blagojevich did next to nothing for the Obama campaign and was definitely not one of the team.
One of the reasons this won't catch on is that nobody can explain what Obama would get out of this whole thing.
It's the same thing as with Spitzer: one man's personal corruption, which only he profits by.
There, I got rid of the bad box.
pbg, this is one of the most frustrating (ok, and a little amusing) things to me when trying to discuss an issue with far right wingnuts , or any other zealots / ideologues. You'd think that with all of the cop & lawyer shows the average American must see on tv by the time they reach adulthood, everybody would have a grasp of the idea of "motive".
The right wing media seems to get by with suggesting some sort of vague "control" or "power" by the government or special interest groups as an end in itself, and I guess that's enough for the people who but their advertisers products.