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CNN's Wian, Dobbs falsely claim Obama silent on "Mexican drug cartels"

December 17, 2008 3:42 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On Lou Dobbs Tonight, CNN correspondent Casey Wian claimed that President-elect Barack Obama is "not taking ... very seriously" the issue of Mexican drug trafficking and its impact on the U.S., adding that "we couldn't find a thing" Obama "has had to say about Mexican drug cartels since he was elected, and even before that." In fact, Obama has made several statements on the subject of Mexican drug cartels.

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On the December 16 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, CNN correspondent Casey Wian falsely claimed that President-elect Barack Obama has said nothing about Mexican drug cartels "since he was elected, and even before that." Dobbs responded: "Well, you know, he's certainly not alone in his -- well, in his lack of expression on the issue, because most liberals in the country simply do not want to discuss the reality that Mexico remains the source of the drugs serving this nation's extraordinary drug habit."

Wian said: "[Y]ou talk about the Bush administration and their failure to help Mexico or convince Mexico or urge Mexico to control the drug trade across our borders. It seems as if the Obama administration, the upcoming Obama administration, is not taking it very seriously either. We looked to see what President-elect Obama has had to say about Mexican drug cartels since he was elected, and even before that -- we couldn't find a thing, Lou."

In fact, Obama has made several statements on the subject of Mexican drug cartels. In a February 20, 2008 Dallas Morning News op-ed, Obama wrote:

The hard work of comprehensive immigration reform must be done at home; we will be a nation of laws and immigrants. But we also have to work with Mexico to crack down on both illegal immigration and transnational criminal organizations that threaten people on both sides of the border.

This will take new investments and new partnerships. Here's some of what we need to do:

  • Increase technology and real-time intelligence-sharing to allow U.S. and Mexican authorities to track and dismantle drug-trafficking cartels.
  • Invest in anti-drug education on both sides of the border to reduce demand for illicit narcotics.
  • Make a concerted effort to disrupt arms smuggling and money laundering from the United States that supplies Mexican drug cartels with weapons and funds.

In addition, on May 23, Obama gave a speech titled "Renewing U.S. Leadership in the Americas," in which he said, "Mexican drug cartels are terrorizing cities and towns. [Mexican] President [Felipe] Calderón was right to say that enough is enough. We must support Mexico's effort to crack down. But we must stand for more than force -- we must support the rule of law from the bottom up. That means more investments in prevention and prosecutors; in community policing and an independent judiciary."

Further, on November 7, the Associated Press reported that Calderón's office had issued a statement saying that Obama had pledged continued support for Mexico's fight against organized crime and drug trafficking. According to the statement, Obama told Calderón that he was "conscious of the difficulty of the battle," and offered "decisive" U.S. support.

From the December 16 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

DOBBS: I disagree entirely with George Grayson at George Mason University. I mean, the idea that we can't do something about this until we stop all of the addicts in this country? That's the kind of thinking that certainly will propel us into the 21st century drug-free and addiction-free. My God. Why isn't there some urgency here?

WIAN: It's amazing, Lou, because -- I mean, you talk about the Bush administration and their failure to help Mexico or convince Mexico or urge Mexico to control the drug trade across our borders. It seems as if the Obama administration, the upcoming Obama administration, is not taking it very seriously either. We looked to see what President-elect Obama has had to say about Mexican drug cartels since he was elected, and even before that -- we couldn't find a thing, Lou.

DOBBS: Well, you know, he's certainly not alone in his -- well, in his lack of expression on the issue, because most liberals in the country simply do not want to discuss the reality that Mexico remains the source of the drugs serving this nation's extraordinary drug habit. The United States, with about just under 5 percent of the world's population, consuming about two-thirds of the world's illegal drugs, and this government and the American people, apparently without the political will to stop it, and -- continue to permit the devastation of millions of lives in this country.

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    • Author by worrierking (December 17, 2008 4:21 pm ET)
         

      Maybe it's time to decriminalize drugs. We can't police the world and most of the drugs are imported from places we'll never be able to control.

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      • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (December 17, 2008 4:32 pm ET)
           

        Agreed.  Then the Mexicans would have to worry about us bringing illegal goods into their country.

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    • Author by wookie (December 17, 2008 4:21 pm ET)
         

      It always sounds kind of lame when you accuse someone of being silent on a subject. With so many possible subjects you can always say that the politician didn't say enough.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (December 17, 2008 4:23 pm ET)
         

      -- we couldn't find a thing, Lou.

      Good help is so hard to find, eh, Lou?  An illegal alien could probably do a better job researching and reporting...

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    • Author by mr. l (December 17, 2008 4:28 pm ET)
         

      Remember the movie 'Traffic' where Michael Douglas (the new drug czar) is looking across the border and asking 'Who has my job over there?'  And the answer is 'There is no position over there.'  I wonder if that's really true?

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    • Author by FDR_democrat (December 17, 2008 4:33 pm ET)
         

      The sheer laziness and/or incompetence of these "researchers" never fails to impress me.

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    • Author by anotheramerican (December 17, 2008 4:44 pm ET)
         

      It looks to me like MMFA is ung up on the words "even before".  MMFA had to go back to May 23 to find anything Obama had to "say".

      It is apparent that Obama over the course of his campaign was indeed almost completely silent if the last time he spoke about this issue was six months before the election.

      So don't be so tough on the Dobbs people. They may have been imprecise regarding the word "even before that", but their meaning is clear and their criticism is valid

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      • Author by Mrs. Teufelshunde (December 17, 2008 4:47 pm ET)
           

        Really? Valid criticism?  He's dealing with a transition to take over the worst economic crisis in a century, and he's had to spend significant parts of all his press conferences answering questions from reporters like you who can't handle the idea that he might not be involved in the Blagojevich scandal, but it's appropriate to criticize him for not saying enough about our neighbor to the South? Seriously?

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        • Author by anotheramerican (December 18, 2008 3:42 pm ET)
             

          Mrs. Teu,

          Seriously? Are you ignorant of history or simply bad at math?  Take a look back about 79 years ago for a refresher course on that economic crisis and tell me which is worse?

          It is laughable that you think Obama has been too busy to say anything about the very serious problem of illegal immigration in over six months? 

          In case you hadn't noticed. He also isn't answering questions about Blagjevich.

          By my count you are 0-3. Seriously.

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          • Author by Mrs. Teufelshunde (December 18, 2008 5:13 pm ET)
               

            incidentally, Bush said TODAY that this could be worse than the Great Depression.  And sorry I stretched the numbers a bit, I thought 1929 was far enough away to be considered last century's economic crisis.  My bad.

            And by the way, Obama warns reporters not to waste their questions about Blago, but they just can't help themselves.

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      • Author by SFnomad (December 17, 2008 4:50 pm ET)
           

        No, they said ... "we couldn't find a thing" ... they are wrong.

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        • Author by anotheramerican (December 18, 2008 3:44 pm ET)
             

          SF, Not necessarily. Maybe the couldn't find anything. Just because MMFA found something six months ago does not mean they found it.

          Therefore you are wrong.

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          • Author by tman418 (December 19, 2008 2:08 am ET)
               

            AA, you are proving SF right. You said, it does NOT mean they found it. They said on live air that they couldn´t find any statement Obama made on this issue. But MMFA found something.

            Also, it wasn´t just something from May. He issued a Statement last month on November 7th. Read the MMFA article.

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            • Author by anotheramerican (December 19, 2008 1:39 pm ET)
                 

              tman,

              Apparently we have a communication problem. If person A says they didn't find Object X and later Person B does find object X does that make Person A wrong?  No. It just means they didn't find Object X.

              I did read the article as I explained below. That Nov. 7th statement is from Caleron, not Obama.

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              • Author by Craig (December 19, 2008 2:08 pm ET)
                   

                But Wian didn't say "didn't find." He said "couldn't find" and he obviously could have. Nice try, but I think that makes you 0 for about a million.

                However, I get your larger point. Wian and Dobbs aren't necessarily distorting the record on purpose. They may just be completely incompetent. Either way, it's a good catch by MMFA.

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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (December 17, 2008 6:18 pm ET)
           

        AA you don't read the articles do you?  It says...

        Further, on November 7, the Associated Press reported that Calderón's office had issued a statement saying that Obama had pledged continued support for Mexico's fight against organized crime and drug trafficking. According to the statement, Obama told Calderón that he was "conscious of the difficulty of the battle," and offered "decisive" U.S. support.

        Cause that would lead a reasonable person to this conclusion...

        They may have been imprecise regarding the word "even before that", but their meaning is clear and their criticism is valid - AA

        I used to think you disingenuous, but I no longer think that really covers what you do here.

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        • Author by anotheramerican (December 18, 2008 2:31 pm ET)
             

          OB,

          I do read the articles, but I read what is not there as well as what MMFA wants you to believe.

          The AP reporting of Calderon's office statement is not Obama saying it. It is Calderon saying Obama said it. Unless there is actual footage of Obama's quotes, those "quotes" could be in the form of a letter. Also Calderon's quotes may be innacurate.  Therefore it is misleading by MMFA to say that statement by Calderon is proof that Dobbs is wrong in his criticism of Obama. Using Calderon's statement proves no such thing.

          ps. In case you haven't figured it out, I do not care what you think about me. However I do enjoy our discussions even though we many times disagree.

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          • Author by Old_Benjamin (December 18, 2008 4:33 pm ET)
               

            For the record - I don't think I have ever agreed with anything you'ver posted.

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            • Author by anotheramerican (December 19, 2008 1:53 pm ET)
                 

              For the record?  Hahaha...  Okay. We can agree that you never agreed with me.

              Now that we've agreed, it makes your "never agreed" false.  

              Glad we got that settled. :-)

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (December 17, 2008 7:41 pm ET)
           

        AA, over the last 8 years, have you heard what Bush and the Republican Governor of Texas are doing to stem the drug related violence on the Texas/Mexico border? After all, Bush has not only been President for the last 8 years, he was the governor of Texas for the previous 8 years and Texas elected another Republican governor to replace Bush.

        Mexico's drug cartel have easy access to military-grad weapons on this side of the border thanks to Bush and the Governor of Texas. The required background check system has been weaken by the Bush administration, requiring all records of approved purchases to be purged within 24 hours. Now authorities have no database to find guns that shouldn't have been sold, leaving the most effective way to trace suspected buyers is to wait until a crime is committed.

        You can't muster up a whimper of criticism about the current administrations 8 year failure, but you feel criticism of Obama is valid?  

        It's getting hard not to call you a moron, AA.

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        • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (December 18, 2008 11:41 am ET)
             

          There is a simple reason why individuals like Lou Dobbs (notice how I am avoiding using insulting names and slurs for these slugs) can get away with saying whatever they want is that fewer people read blogs like Media Matters and others that call them on it.  Mr. Dobbs has an awful lot of viewers who don't have information or just don't care to find out.  Therein lies his strength.  It is the most effective means to control and misinform the populace: give them only what you want them to know, not what they should know.

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        • Author by anotheramerican (December 18, 2008 2:42 pm ET)
             

          AA,

          You make valid criticisms regarding the Bush and Perry. However discussing the current administration off topic to the points I brought up. If you want to talk about Bush and Perry's actions go right ahead. But to bring up them and then start with the name calling before I have a chance to comment is pretty much putting the cart before the horse. Therefore, in my opinion, your namecalling, besides being uncalled for, is off base.

          I find namecalling to be a wast of time and I could care less what you think of me personally.  If you want to sink to name calling go right ahead. Regardless, I do enjoy our discussions.

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          • Author by anotheramerican (December 18, 2008 2:44 pm ET)
               

            oops. The above note is a reply to Pearlene and not AA.

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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (December 19, 2008 12:59 pm ET)
               

            AA, the mess Republicans and Bush are leaving Obama IS the point.

            The increased violence is due to the failures of both Bush as governor and Perry, as governor, so how is that off topic? Unless Texas changes their gun laws, the Mexican drug cartel will still be able to come across the border, purchase military-grade weapons and go back across the border, with the records of the purchases erased within 24 hours. 

            And now you want to critize Obama for not magically having a solution to the problem?

            You my not like name calling, but moronic is the only name I can call your idea that your "criticism" should be considered valid. 

            We still have 4 more weeks of Bush and considering how badly he's screwed up,  Obama may not have a country to run by January 20, 2009. 

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            • Author by anotheramerican (December 19, 2008 1:50 pm ET)
                 

              Pearlene,

              the "mess" as you described, is "your" point. It is not the subject of this thread. I invite you to go read it again.

              You are creating another argument of your own where you say I want to criticize Obama for not "magically" having a solution to the problem.  Again I invite you to reread my posts and point out exactly where I criticized Obama for his lack of magic.

              You sound awfully angry. Why is that?

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    • Author by Mrs. Teufelshunde (December 17, 2008 4:44 pm ET)
         

      Eh, you can't even claim Casey is lying.  CNN is just admitting they can't use LexisNexis at the same level as a college student.  In fact, this seems to be the opposite of misinformation.  They're finally admitting that they aren't good at their jobs, and they're really not that interested in improvement!

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    • Author by robrob (December 17, 2008 5:51 pm ET)
         
      RWnuts apparently think not having said something lately about a subject = never having said anything about it at all.
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      • Author by eweston8542983 (December 17, 2008 6:21 pm ET)
           

        From Dobbs point of veiw, unless he's sending the Marines, he's not serious.

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    • Author by zamfir273114 (December 17, 2008 8:18 pm ET)
         

      Legalize Marijiuana; that would eliminate a lot of the Mexcian drug cartel's profits and would get a lot of people out of prison that don't deserve to be there.  Oh, we can't do that though because the alcohol lobby and the pharmaceutical lobby wouldn't be too happy (as well as the law enforcement and prison employee unions that depend on these easy offenses).

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (December 18, 2008 10:47 am ET)
           

        Sure, Zamfir, if you're ok with the streets being suddenly flooded with crazed and violent "Mary Jane Fiends". Who do you work for, the Ben & Jerry's lobby?

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    • Author by DeminTX (December 18, 2008 11:45 am ET)
         

      I agree.  Legalize it and then you can tax it.  Talk about a boost to the economy!  Takes away all profit motive too.  Drug cartels would quickly be out of business.  You could also eliminate the DEA, which would save big tax payer $$.  Monitor it the same way we do alcohol.  If you're over 21, fine, buy it.  But, if you're caught DUI/DWI you're going to be busted.  Other than that, who cares what you put in your body.

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      • Author by anotheramerican (December 18, 2008 2:47 pm ET)
           

        DeminTX,

        While your at it, lets save money by doing away with the FDA. After all, who cares what you put in our body?  ;-)

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        • Author by DeminTX (December 18, 2008 3:27 pm ET)
             

          I wouldn't be totally adverse to that.  I'm sure the FDA is paid off to let stuff "slip" in to the public's hands.  How many meds have had to have been recalled because it was killing folks?  Was adequate testing done to ensure it was safe or were corporate profits at stake to get something into the field as quickly as possible.  Plus, we've had poisonous tomatoes, contaminated beef, etc.....

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