Despite Time's report that photos had been in prof's safety deposit box, Hannity, Fox & Friends ask if media sat on photos until after election
SUMMARY: Discussing 1980 photos of President-elect Barack Obama published in Time, Sean Hannity asked, "[W]hy didn't we see these pictures beforehand?" and "You think the media maybe thought, well, it might not hurt -- it might not help Barack Obama?" Similarly, Fox News hosts asked, "Was Time magazine sitting on these photos until after the election?" In fact, according to Time, the photographer, Lisa Jack, a fellow student of Obama's at the time and now a psychologist, "put the negatives in a safety-deposit box, so that they could not be used until after the election."
Referring to Time magazine's photo essay, "Obama: The College Years," a 1980 photo shoot of President-elect Barack Obama by then-fellow student Lisa Jack, Sean Hannity stated on the December 18 broadcast of his radio show: "Just take a look at this. Barack Obama has a hat, you know, pulling a drag on a cigarette." He then asked: "I wonder if they had a picture of John McCain, you know -- I wonder why -- why didn't we see these pictures beforehand?" Hannity continued: "You think the media maybe thought, well, it might not hurt -- it might not help Barack Obama?" In fact, according to Time, Jack "put the negatives in a safety-deposit box, so that they could not be used until after the election." Jack is now an assistant professor of psychology at Augsburg College in Minneapolis, not a media photographer.
Similarly, on the December 19 edition of Fox & Friends First, teasing a segment on the Time photo essay, co-host Brian Kilmeade asked: "Was Time magazine sitting on these photos until after the election?" During the ensuing segment on Fox & Friends, co-host Gretchen Carlson asked: "Would it have -- I don't know. Would it have served any purpose to release these photos before the election?" Co-host Steve Doocy responded: "Yeah, well, you know, so here you've got these pictures of the president and some of the headlines that said something about, look he was cool even back then. What if somebody else like [Sen. John] McCain had pictures like that. ... [Y]ou've got to figure that they probably would have come out before the election." Fox & Friends then aired a series of altered photos with McCain's face replacing Obama's in the pictures.
According to captions that accompany three of the photos, "[o]n a dare," Jack "decided to track down her negatives" of Obama, "dug the film out of her basement," and "[f]or a while ... put the negatives in a safety-deposit box, so that they could not be used until after the election, when there would be no chance they could be used for a political purpose." Another caption states that "Jack never realized her dream of becoming a photographer and is now a psychologist." According to an article on Augsburg College's website, Jack "wanted to share the photos but wanted to wait until after the election. That's when she contacted Time magazine to see if there was any interest in publishing the photos from Obama's past. The magazine was very interested."
From the December 18 broadcast of ABC Radio Networks' The Sean Hannity Show:
HANNITY: We actually put up on Hannity.com -- we've got a picture -- Time magazine's "Man of the Year." Where were these pictures during the campaign? Just take a look at this. Barack Obama has a hat, you know, pulling a drag on a cigarette. And, you know, the question is: I wonder if they had a picture of John McCain, you know -- I wonder why -- why didn't we see these pictures beforehand?
You think the media maybe thought, well, it might not hurt -- it might not help Barack Obama? Anyway, all right. We've got to take a break. We'll come back.
From the December 19 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends First:
KILMEADE: And the college student who would become president. Pictures of Barack Obama just released. Was the Time magazine sitting on these photos until after the election?
DOOCY: Looks like he's thinking about that.
KILMEADE: Yes.
From the December 19 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:
CARLSON: Let's talk a little bit about Time magazine because there are some very intriguing Barack Obama photos in this week's edition. They were taken a long time ago when he was actually a student at Occidental College, out in California. Maybe he's 18, 19, 20 years old here. They were taken by a friend. And up until this point in time, we never saw any of these. Look at this one. This is him smoking a cigarette, of which we have not seen --
DOOCY: Is that a cigarette?
CARLSON: Well, I don't -- I'm not sure exactly what it is.
KILMEADE: I hope so.
CARLSON: But here he's looking very dapper in a nice jacket -- and these pictures now just coming out. But would it --
DOOCY: Well, it's -- it's convenient.
CARLSON: Would it have -- yes, after the election. Would it have -- I don't know. Would it have served any purpose to release these photos before the election?
DOOCY: Yeah, well, you know, so here you've got these pictures of the president and some of the headlines that said something about, look he was cool even back then. What if somebody else like McCain had pictures like that, that -- you've got to figure that they probably would have come out before the election.
KILMEADE: Right. You know --
DOOCY: Rather than somebody who's just not --
KILMEADE: There's John McCain.
DOOCY: Yeah, that definitely would have come out --
KILMEADE: But when -- they were similar to John McCain of course was in a Vietnamese prison.
DOOCY: That almost looks like he's holding the face on that Photoshop --
CARLSON: Oh, man.
DOOCY: -- on this Photoshop picture.
CARLSON: Is that Brian's hair?
KILMEADE: Yeah, I think they borrowed it.
DOOCY: No, I think they're putting these pictures --
KILMEADE: I know mine was missing.
DOOCY: -- of the faces right on Barack Obama's body.
KILMEADE: All right.
DOOCY: I thought --
KILMEADE: So, that was different. So that was just a quick look at John McCain being cool.
And looky, they're still being used for political purposes, even though the election's over...
I actually feel sorry for the President now.
.........and the point of all of this is? (not directed to dawuss). faucks and criminals are insipid morons. Why not show the larry craig stall? Show a picture of babybush while describing the deliterious effects of alcohol and cocaine? These substances obviously melted bush's brain. To the right wing lunatics: how low and obtuse will you get?
Joe Scarborough just completed another of his scientific paralysis and he determined that if the pictures had been shown a total of 8 million votes would
have swung from Obama to McCain. The American people will simply not vote for someone who wears a fedora when they were 20 years old.
It's like this. McCain can commit adultry, leave his wife while she's in the hospital because she was disfigured in an auto accident, engage in the keating 5 scandal, lie, cheat and steal because he's a republican. Democrats aren't allowed to have youthful indescretions, they must be pure as the driven snow, and then that's still not good enough.
Mrs. Teuf,
Got any pics of John and the strippers? If so, why don't you hold on to them just in case he gets past the Primary and is elected POTUS in 2012. After he's elected then go ahead release them to Time. No doubt they'll understand and pay you in advance.
I think the point was that it shouldn't make any difference.
Brab,
I think the point is that this is another media coverup for Obama.
I haven't even seen the pictures but I am wondering why, if there is nothing embarrassing about them, were they kept hidden until now.
Do you think Time would have sat on the hypothetical McCain's pictures like they did with these of Obama? If so, there's a bridge in Brooklyn....
Why do you not believe Time magazine when they say that the pictures were in a safety deposit box? Did you read even the summary of the article?
Is there anything to support the idea that Time is left-wing?
Hey, Brabantio, how's about you, the Col. and me just b**ch-slap AA?
Barney, do you have anything to back up your implication that Time had posession of these photos before the election? Thanks.
Earth to AA,
Time Magazine didn't have the photographs. So now I guess you're going to claim that Time didn't have the photographs but knew the photographs existed and where they could get them.
You know, this is why you wingnuts have gotten trounced the last 2 elections. Voters--with the help of groups like Media Matters--see through this crap. Don't you see, you're just digging yourselves in deeper? If you're in a hole, stop digging!
correct. it was the woman who took them who did not release them until after the election. time knew nothing about them.
aa: "if there is nothing embarrassing about them". uh, could you explain exactly what is "embarrassing" about them? i mean, you're going to compare pictures of a candidate dating strippers to a candidate smoking a cigarette? this is as good as all your conjecture of how obama must be guilty of something in the blagojevich case. you can't quite explain what, but it has to be something...just you wait....any day now...
Dammit, AA, I just left you an "Attaboy" on the other thread for your catch on the Cabinet Position item, and now you follow up with this nutty bit of drivel.I thought there was some improvement going on.
Col, even a blind squirrel is bound to find a nut in the forest!
I know Snoop, and it was just some imprecise wording on MMFA's part, but I was still very proud of our Barney.
I realize that this is a tough test, but this does not bode well at all for Remedial Matters for Anutty American 1.0.0b...
I think the person who mentioned McCain dating strippers in his youth was his daughter. It was a strange moment - I think she put it in her blog, too.
Fox is becoming quite the conspiracy factory aren't they?
I don't think these pictures would have made any difference at all in the election.
Do these dolts actually thing that there was a voter anywhere in the country who said to himself, I'm tired of the endless wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and against science and the working class but after seeing Obama in a hat smoking a cigarette, I just can't vote for him?
How flocking dumb do they think we are?
>>Fox is becoming quite the conspiracy factory aren't they?
They are after all the network that gave us Alien Autopsy. I wonder what Obama's link to that was?
I believe there would have been many non-smokers who, even fans of Obama, would not have voted for him. I, on the other hand, contributed to his campaign when I found out he DID smoke. There are rabid anti-smoking folks "out there" who would ban the showing of anyone smoking in a movie. Movies like "Casablanca" and any other films would be eliminated from the catalog. The U.S. postal service was required to photo-shop the cigarette from Jackson Pollack's commemorative stamp! "How flocking dumb do they think we are?" There's your answer.
OMG! I regret voting for this man! These photos are pure eeeeviiilllll!
America, what we have done?
Where is ThePlanner when you need her? Someone alert FreeRepublic! This proves Obama is not a citizen. Again.
This proves Obama is not a citizen. - tippy
It's the hat, right? =>
Definitely the hat.
I believe he was wearing what they call a "fedora".
Sounds muslim.
It's FOX's way of saying to their audience, "Don't you just hate this guy, Obama...who thinks he's soooo cool?" That's basically it, IMO...
I saw this on HANNITY & colmes, and it was hilarious the way the wingnutz locked onto their theme.
Wingnuts: The media sat on these!
Colmes: the photographer had them. the media didn't
Wingnuts:If this had been a Republican, the media would have... (blah blah)
Colmes: The media didn't have them
Wingnuts: Why did the media not release these...?
and repeat.
FOX exists in an alternate reality...
The earliest known photograph of John McCain was taken by the Frenchman, Louis Daguerre, in 1839 (I taught photography for many years). "Boulevard du Temple" shows a Paris street, with a man getting his boots polished. The exposure took a full 10 minutes, the traffic not being visible because of it's movement. The man, however, was very still and could be caught quite nicely. We know it is McCain because only his right boot is being polished.
You sure it wasn't a Fox pundit licking it?
I would think that the two "professionals" who are having this discussion would be embarrassed by publication of a transcript that reveals not only how shallow they are but reveals their limited intelligence and ability to converse in English. The entire discussion strikes me as silly and banal.
I don't get it. The election would have turned because Obama was smoking while wearing a hat? These guys can't get over the fact they lost to Obama.
I haven't even seen the pictures but I am wondering why, if there is nothing embarrassing about them, were they kept hidden until now.
Well, you know, you could actually look at them. MMFA does provide a link. It's not like staring at the sun.
Do you think Time would have sat on the hypothetical McCain's pictures like they did with these of Obama?
Why? Does Time have pictures of McCain with a 'Fro sitting on a couch smoking a cigarette?
These guys must be getting their meds from the same place that Limbaugh gets his. It's either that, or some kind of gas is being pumped into Faux News' vents!!!!.
Desperater and desperator, and preaching to a shrinking (but still virulent) choir.
Are you kidding me? Why is this even news? Ooooh, the pictures are so shocking. A college freshman with a cigarette - I've never seen anything like that in my life.
Pulllleeeeeze. The economy is in a shambles, the Big 3 are propped up until their likely death in 2009 so W can't say it happened on his watch...and THIS is news?
Talk about a slow news cycle.
Besides the fact the "media" didn't have the picture, which picture would do more damage to Obama, this one or the one where he is dressed in Islamic garb? Yet the "liberal media" put that photo all over the airwaves. So if they were willing to disseminate that photo, wouldn't it make sense that they WOULDN'T hide this, less damaging, one?