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Guilty: Coulter's latest book filled with falsehoods

January 04, 2009 7:44 pm ET

SUMMARY: Media Matters has examined a copy of Ann Coulter's new book, Guilty, and presents a sampling of the book's numerous falsehoods. These falsehoods include her defense of claims made against Sen. John Kerry by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth; her assertion that "Fox News has never been caught promoting a fraud"; and her claim that President-elect Barack Obama was referring to Gov. Sarah Palin when he said "you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig."

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Media Matters for America has examined a copy of author and syndicated columnist Ann Coulter's new book, Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America, which Media Matters obtained in advance of the book's release, and presents a sampling of the book's numerous falsehoods, including misrepresentations of the sources she cites. These falsehoods come on a wide-ranging list of subjects including her defense of the claims made against Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth during the 2004 presidential campaign; her assertion that "Fox News has never been caught promoting a fraud"; her claim that President-elect Barack Obama was referring to Gov. Sarah Palin when he said "you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig"; and attacks she makes against New York Times columnist Frank Rich. Coulter has announced that she is scheduled to appear on the January 6 broadcast of NBC's Today to promote Guilty.

Media Matters has also documented that Coulter made numerous inflammatory and offensive comments in Guilty.

Below are examples of the numerous falsehoods in Guilty.

Liberals' purported "praise[]" for hoaxers for staging hate crimes

Coulter claims that two black students who engaged in a hoax by hanging a black doll from a noose were "immediately praised" by "liberals," but the sources she cites do not support this claim. Coulter writes:

In 1997, at Duke University, a black doll was found hanging by a noose from a tree at the precise spot where the Black Student Alliance planned to hold a rally against racism. Two black students later admitted they were the culprits and were immediately praised for bringing attention to the problem of racism on campus. Which is why I'm thinking about knocking over a liquor store to focus attention on the problem of big-city crime.

Rather than "institutional racism," what we are witnessing is "institutional racial hoaxism" committed by liberals. [Page 10]

Coulter cites two articles to back up her assertion that the students were "immediately praised," neither of which support such a claim. One of the sources Coulter cites is a January 8, 1999, Chronicle of Higher Education article, which does not report that the students were "praised" but rather that "[s]ome classmates defended the two students." The sole student quoted in the article discussing the incident criticized both the students and the university:

Some classmates defended the two students, whose names were not released. In a letter to The Chronicle, Duke's student newspaper, Worokya Diomande called the act "tasteless," but said "the idea behind the act ... is being overlooked."

"The idea is that the university has not changed," wrote Ms. Diomande, who graduated last spring. "Blacks are allowed to be enrolled here, but the idea is the equivalent of the transition from field slave to house slave."

Coulter's other source for her claim that the students were "immediately praised" is a January 31, 2000, article in The Weekly Standard (accessed from Nexis), which cites the Chronicle article in writing that "some at Duke defended the act, claiming it high-lighted the problem of race relations on campus."

Fox News Channel

On Page 15, Coulter writes, "Fox News has never been caught promoting a fraud -- unlike CBS (Bush National Guard story), ABC (tobacco industry report), NBC (exploding GM trucks), CNN (Tailwind), and MSNBC (Keith Olbermann)." In fact, as Media Matters has documented, on several occasions since 2004, Fox News has issued a retraction and apology for airing a news report that repeated false information, one of which led Fox News' Vice President for News John Moody to reportedly warn staff in January 2007 that "seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC."

On the April 24, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends, co-hosts Steve Doocy and Brian Kilmeade repeated as fact an online parody news report of a school prank that included fabricated quotes attributed to the superintendent. Doocy issued an on-air retraction and apology during the May 16, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends First, but the superintendent brought suit against the Fox News Channel, Doocy, and Kilmeade. In a June 3, 2008, decision dismissing the lawsuit, U.S. District Court Judge D. Brock Hornby wrote:

The facts in this case -- a morning cable news show derisively reporting events and statements obtained unwittingly from an online parody -- should provide grist for journalism classes teaching research and professionalism standards in the Internet age. But First Amendment principles developed long before the Internet still provide protection to the gullible news program hosts against this public official's claims for defamation and false light invasion of privacy. Poetic justice would subject the defendants to the same ridicule that they accorded the plaintiff. But in real life, the aggrieved school superintendent must be satisfied with their later retraction and a professional reputation sullied less than theirs.

The lawsuit was filed by Leon Levesque, a school superintendent in Lewiston, Maine. According to The Associated Press, "[t]he case was an outgrowth of an April 2007 prank in which a middle school student tossed a slab of leftover Easter ham onto a table surrounded by Somali Muslim youngsters, knowing the Muslims would be offended." Freelance writer Nicholas Plagman later published a fabricated news report about the incident at Associated Content in which he attributed numerous made-up quotes to Levesque, including one in which Levesque was alleged to have said: "These children have got to learn that ham is not a toy." On the April 24, 2007, edition of Fox & Friends, Doocy and Kilmeade reported on Plagman's story as though it were fact and repeated several of the made-up quotes attributed to Levesque. In discussing the parody report, Doocy repeatedly asserted: "We are not making this up." Indeed, when Kilmeade asserted: "You know, I hope we're not being duped," Doocy replied, "We're not being duped. I've looked it up on a couple of different websites up there."

Doocy has also retracted his false assertion on the January 19, 2007, Fox & Friends, that Barack Obama "spent the first decade of his life, raised by his Muslim father -- as a Muslim and was educated in a madrassa." According to the washingtonpost.com blog The Sleuth, Moody subsequently "issued this missive to staff in his daily editorial note on Jan. 23 [2007]: 'For the record: seeing an item on a website does not mean it is right. Nor does it mean it is ready for air on FNC.' " Moody also criticized the hosts of Fox & Friends in a January 29, 2007, New York Times article, saying, "The hosts violated one of our general rules, which is know what you are talking about. ... They reported information from a publication whose accuracy we didn't know."

Further, on October 1, 2004, Fox News issued a retraction and an apology for a news story written by chief political correspondent Carl Cameron that falsely attributed quotes to Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) in an attempt to ridicule him over a purported manicure.

John Kerry and the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

Coulter advances several falsehoods about Kerry in defending the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, an organization which spread numerous falsehoods and smears regarding Kerry's military record in the six months leading up to the 2004 presidential election.

Membership of Swift Boat Veterans

Coulter writes that "nearly three hundred veterans who served with Kerry said he was lying about his war record [Page 109]" and also states: "Only 14 Swift Boat Veterans sided with Kerry, while 294 sided with O'Neill. Let's see, would it be more difficult to get 14 people to tell the same lie or to get 294 people to tell the same lie? [Page 99]" But contrary to Coulter's assertion, among the roughly 300 she referred to, who signed a letter critical of Kerry, were people who subsequently admitted they had no firsthand knowledge of the claims they made; who contradicted their statements opposing Kerry both before and after they made them; and who reportedly said they joined with the Swift Boat Veterans not because they believed Kerry had "l[ied] about his war record" but because they disapproved of Kerry's subsequent statements opposing the Vietnam War.

Retractions by Swift Boat Veterans

Coulter falsely claims that "the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth weren't forced to retract any part of their story. [Page 100]" In fact, the organization altered its website's account of the December 2, 1968, mission for which the U.S. Navy awarded Kerry his first Purple Heart three days after Media Matters noted that the account was inconsistent with that of the group's star witness -- retired Rear Admiral William L. Schachte Jr., who claims he was the commander on that mission.

According to Schachte, Kerry did not deserve the award because the "skimmer" he supposedly commanded that night did not receive enemy fire, and Kerry's wound was the result of Kerry's own improper use of an M-79 grenade launcher. But in an April 2003 interview with The Boston Globe, "Schachte described the action as a 'firefight' and said of Kerry: 'He got hit,' " the Globe reported on August 28, 2004. According to the Globe, Schachte "did not challenge Kerry's Purple Heart" during that interview.

The original version of the account on the Swift Boat Vets website begins:

The action that led to John Kerry's first Purple Heart occurred on December 2, 1968, during the month that he was undergoing training with Coastal Division 14 at Cam Ranh Bay. While waiting to receive his own Swift boat command, Kerry volunteered for a nighttime patrol mission commanding a small, foam-filled "skimmer" craft with two enlisted men [emphasis added].

As Media Matters documented, this description matches Kerry's own account, as well as the account of Patrick Runyon and William Zaladonis, two enlisted men who have stated that: (1) Schachte was not on the skimmer; (2) Kerry was in command; and (3) Runyon and Zaladonis were the only other people besides Kerry on the small craft.

The updated version of the Swift Boat Vets account -- now consistent with Schachte's version of events -- reads:

The action that led to John Kerry's first Purple Heart occurred on December 2, 1968, during the month that he was undergoing training with Coastal Division 14 at Cam Ranh Bay. While waiting to receive his own Swift boat command, Kerry volunteered for a nighttime patrol mission on a small, foam-filled "skimmer" craft under the command of Lt. William Schachte. The two officers were accompanied by an enlisted man who operated the outboard motor [emphasis added].

Several other Swift Boat Veterans made statements during the 2004 presidential campaign that were inconsistent with their previous accounts, or subsequently reportedly retracted comments they made during that campaign, including:

  • John O'Neill. Unfit for Command (Regnery, 2004), co-authored by Swift Boat Veterans for Truth co-founder John O'Neill, asserted that "Kerry was never in Cambodia during Christmas 1968, or at all during the Vietnam War" because "[a]reas closer than 55 miles from the Cambodian border in the area of the Mekong River were patrolled by PBRs, a small river patrol craft, and not by Swift Boats." However, as Media Matters noted, according to White House recordings, in 1971 O'Neill told President Richard Nixon that he himself had been in Cambodia and answered in the affirmative when Nixon asked if it had been on a swift boat.
  • Alfred French. In the first Swift Boat ad, then-Clackamas County (Oregon) senior deputy district attorney Alfred J. French announced: "I served with John Kerry. ... He is lying about his record." In preparation for the ad, French signed a sworn affidavit for the Swift Boat Veterans asserting that Kerry had received his Purple Heart "from negligently self-inflicted wounds in the absence of hostile fire." The affidavit French signed declared, "I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge and belief" (emphasis added).

    But in an interview with The Oregonian, French admitted he was "not a witness" to the events surrounding Kerry's medals and that his information came secondhand from "friends."
  • George Elliott. In an April 12, 2004, article, USA Today reported that Lt. Cmdr. George Elliott, Kerry's division commander, said of the actions for which Kerry received a Silver Star: "This was an exemplary action. There's no question about it." Elliott subsequently appeared in a Swift Boat ad in which he asserted that "John Kerry has not been honest about what happened in Vietnam," and, according to an August 6, 2004, Boston Globe article, "sign[ed] an affidavit that suggests Kerry did not deserve the Silver Star" which the Swift Boat Veterans gave to the Globe "to justify assertions in their ad and book."

    But in an interview with the Globe for that August 6, 2004, article, Elliott said that his involvement in the Kerry attack was "a terrible mistake" and said, "I'm the one in trouble here. ... I knew it was wrong. ... In a hurry I signed [an affidavit] and faxed it back. That was a mistake." The Globe further reported that "Elliott said he regretted signing the affidavit and said he still thinks Kerry deserved the Silver Star."

    Finally, in an August 7, 2004, article, the Globe reported:

    Elliott released another affidavit yesterday backing away from his comments this week to the Globe, saying the reporter, Michael Kranish, misquoted him.

    Globe Editor Martin Baron released a statement saying "the Globe stands by the article. The quotes attributed to Mr. Elliott were on the record and absolutely accurate."

    In 1996, when Kerry was running for Senate reelection and faced questions about the circumstances in which he shot the Viet Cong fighter, Elliott came to Boston and defended Kerry, saying he deserved the Silver Star.

    In yesterday's new affidavit, Elliott said, "had I known the facts I would not have recommended Kerry for the Silver Star simply for pursuing and dispatching a single wounded Viet Cong." He added, "I do not claim to have any personal knowledge as to how Kerry shot the wounded, fleeing Viet Cong."

Media coverage of Swift Boat Veterans

Coulter also suggests that the media ignored the allegations of the Swift Boat Veterans, writing, "The only way they could have gotten less attention would have been to be interviewed on Air America Radio. [Page 101]" In fact, as Media Matters senior fellow Eric Boehlert wrote in Lapdogs: How the Press Rolled Over for Bush (Free Press, May 2006):

By the time the Swift Boat story had played out, CNN, chasing after ratings leader Fox News, found time to mention the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth --hereafter, Swifties -- in nearly 300 separate news segments, while more than 100 New York Times articles and columns made mention of the Swifties. And during one overheated 12-day span in late August, the Washington Post mentioned the Swifties in page 1 stories on Aug. 19, 20, 21 (two separate articles), 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31. [Page 177]

Boehlert further wrote:

[I]n the month of August, 2004, NBC network news alone covered the Swift Boat story on August 8, 15, 19, 20, 22, 23, 25, 26, and 29. CBS covered the story on August 8, 22, 23, 24, 25 26 and 30, while ABC devoted airtime to it on August 6, 8, 9, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 25, and 26. Some of the networks, using different morning and evening news programs, returned to the topic several times in one day. For instance on August 23, CBS reported on the Swifty controversy four different times, which of course, represented four more times than the CBS News division reported on question surrounding Bush's Guard service during the entire 2000 campaign. [Page 189]

Kerry's Bronze Star

Coulter also falsely suggests that no witnesses supported Kerry's account that his convoy came under enemy fire during the March 13, 1969, actions for which he was awarded the Bronze Star. Coulter wrote:

Larry Thurlow was the Swiftee who, according to the Times's account, "earned a medal for bravery in a gun battle he accused Mr. Kerry of concocting." But Thurlow didn't think he had won his medal for coming under enemy fire for the simple reason that there had been no enemy fire. What happened was the first boat in the five-boat convoy, PCF-3, hit a mine that blew up the boat and tossed the sailors into the water. The Swiftees fired on the shore as a precautionary measure, but stopped when they realized there was no return fire. That is according to eleven crew members and three commanders on that mission -- or all living commanders, except Kerry. [Page 105]

Coulter provided no citation for her claim that "eleven crew members and three commanders on that mission" agreed with her description of "[w]hat happened." In fact, several crew members on the convoy boats have stated that the convoy did come under enemy fire:

  • The crew of Patrol Craft Fast 94 (PCF-94). In a 2008 letter to Swift Boat Veterans funder T. Boone Pickens debunking the group's "lies," Del Sandusky, Fred Short, David Alston, Michael Medeiros, and Eugene K. Thorson -- Kerry's crewmates on PCF-94 during the Vietnam War -- wrote that "[t]he innuendo that Kerry 'put himself in' for his Bronze Star Medal on a mission where there was no hostile fire, is completely disproved ... by all of the other crew members who were actually on the boat in this ambush."
  • Jim Rassmann. In an August 10, 2004, Wall Street Journal op-ed, Rassmann wrote:

    I came to know Lt. John Kerry during the spring of 1969. He and his swift boat crew assisted in inserting our Special Forces team and our Chinese Nung soldiers into operational sites in the Cau Mau Peninsula of South Vietnam. I worked with him on many operations and saw firsthand his leadership, courage and decision-making ability under fire.

    On March 13, 1969, John Kerry's courage and leadership saved my life.

    While returning from a SEA LORDS operation along the Bay Hap River, a mine detonated under another swift boat. Machine-gun fire erupted from both banks of the river [emphasis added], and a second explosion followed moments later. The second blast blew me off John's swift boat, PCF-94, throwing me into the river. Fearing that the other boats would run me over, I swam to the bottom of the river and stayed there as long as I could hold my breath.

    When I surfaced, all the swift boats had left, and I was alone taking fire from both banks. To avoid the incoming fire [emphasis added], I repeatedly swam under water as long as I could hold my breath, attempting to make it to the north bank of the river. I thought I would die right there. The odds were against me avoiding the incoming fire and, even if I made it out of the river, I thought I'd be captured and executed. Kerry must have seen me in the water and directed his driver, Del Sandusky, to turn the boat around. Kerry's boat ran up to me in the water, bow on, and I was able to climb up a cargo net to the lip of the deck.

    But, because I was nearly upside down, I couldn't make it over the edge of the deck. This left me hanging out in the open, a perfect target. John, already wounded by the explosion that threw me off his boat, came out onto the bow, exposing himself to the fire directed at us from the jungle, and pulled me aboard.

  • Robert E. Lambert. An August 26, 2004, Mail Tribune (Oregon) article reported that Lambert, "a crew member on swift boat PCF-51" during the March 13, 1969, action, said of Thurlow, his commanding officer, "He and another officer now say we weren't under fire at that time. Well, I sure was under the impression we were." The Mail Tribune also reported that Lambert "doesn't plan to vote for John Kerry" and quoted him referring to Kerry's "opposition to the Vietnam War once he returned to the states" as "absolutely reprehensible."
  • Wayne D. Langhofer. In an August 22, 2004, article, The Washington Post reported:

    Until now, eyewitness evidence supporting Kerry's version had come only from his own crewmen. But yesterday, The Post independently contacted a participant who has not spoken out so far in favor of either camp who remembers coming under enemy fire. "There was a lot of firing going on, and it came from both sides of the river," said Wayne D. Langhofer, who manned a machine gun aboard PCF-43, the boat that was directly behind Kerry's.

    Langhofer said he distinctly remembered the "clack, clack, clack" of enemy AK-47s, as well as muzzle flashes from the riverbanks. Langhofer, who now works at a Kansas gunpowder plant, said he was approached several months ago by leaders of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth but declined their requests to speak out against Kerry.

  • Jim Russell. In an August 23, 2004, article, the Post reported:

    In Colorado, Jim Russell, who participated in Swift boat operations when Kerry did, wrote a letter to the editor of the Telluride Daily Planet to angrily dispute the claim that Kerry was not under enemy fire when he rescued Jim Rassman from the water, a feat that brought Kerry a Bronze Star and Purple Heart.

    "I was on No. 43 boat, skippered by Don Droz, who was later that year killed by enemy fire," Russell wrote in the letter. "Forever pictured in my mind since that day over 30 years ago [is] John Kerry bending over his boat picking up one of the rangers that we were ferrying from out of the water. All the time we were taking small arms fire from the beach; although because of our fusillade into the jungle, I don't think it was very accurate, thank God. Anyone who doesn't think that we were being fired upon must have been on a different river."

Coulter also writes that during the actions for which he was awarded the Bronze Star, "Kerry had nothing to do with saving the boat that had been hit because -- again according to the accounts of all three living commanding officers, except Kerry -- Kerry fled on his boat the moment the first boat hit a mine [Page 105]." But Coulter's suggestion that Kerry's boat fled while the other boats remained is inconsistent with Rassmann's firsthand account and with the account of Kerry's actions in his Bronze Star citation. Rassmann stated: "[A]ll the swift boats had left, and I was alone taking fire from both banks," before Kerry returned to rescue him from the water.

Kerry's "home-movie camera"

Coulter writes that Kerry "carrie[d] a home-movie camera to war in order to reenact combat scenes and tape fake interviews with himself" during his tour in Vietnam [Page 100]. Coulter was repeating a discredited charge previously made by Internet gossip Matt Drudge and subsequently echoed by The New York Times and numerous cable and radio outlets during the 2004 presidential election. Drudge's report cited a 1996 Boston Globe article, Unfit for Command, and Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson's book, "Reckless Disregard: How Liberal Democrats Undermine Our Military, Endanger Our Soldiers, and Jeopardize Our Security (Regnery Publishing, 2004). But in his September 7, 2002, column, the Times' current executive editor and then-columnist Bill Keller took up the issue of Kerry's wartime films and debunked the reenactment charge, which he wrote that he believed at first: "[R]elying on a report in the usually dependable Boston Globe, I mocked him for pulling out a movie camera after a shootout in the Mekong Delta and re-enacting the exploit, as if preening for campaign commercials to come."

Contrary to Coulter's assertion that Kerry "carrie[d] a home-movie camera to war in order to reenact combat scenes and tape fake interviews with himself," after spending 40 minutes watching the movies Kerry shot in Vietnam, Keller wrote:

The first thing to be said is that the senator's movies are not self-aggrandizing. Mr. Kerry is hardly in the film, and never strikes so much as a heroic pose. These are the souvenirs of a 25-year-old guy sent to an exotic place on an otherworldly mission, who bought an 8-millimeter camera in the PX and shot a few hours of travelogue, most of it pretty boring if you didn't live through it.

Keller also wrote that, according to the Swift Boat Sailors Association, "a group of veterans who manned" the kind of riverboat that Kerry commanded, "lots of enlisted men did the same." Keller further wrote: "Senator Max Cleland has hours of film from his service in the First Air Cavalry, which he has had edited into a three-minute meet-the-senator video."

As Media Matters documented, a July 30, 2004, New York Times article reporting on the Drudge charge noted that "people who have viewed his [Kerry's] film from the war have said they have seen no re-enactments," but the paper did not report that Keller had been among those "people."

Kerry and LexisNexis

After detailing retractions Kerry purportedly made in response to the Swift Vets' claims, Coulter writes: "By contrast, the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth weren't forced to retract any part of their story. There's a reason it was Kerry -- and not the Swift Boat Veterans -- who told the Washington Post, 'I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis' [Page 100]." But contrary to Coulter's suggestion, Kerry did not make that comment to the Post in response to the Swift Boat Veterans' claims. The Washington Post article which Coulter cites for the quote was a profile of Kerry published on June 1, 2003, and Kerry was not referring to LexisNexis' documenting falsehoods, but to its documenting his having "be[en] a little brash when I first got into politics":

Kerry stepped into the crowd, planting his big hands on workingmen's shoulders, quizzing students about their majors, telling a woman about the time his daughter's pet frog jumped on his nose. He waved, hugged, guffawed and sat knee to knee with a grandmother. Boland said: "This guy's not personable? What a phony issue."

Yet it has been an issue, especially with journalists, all the way back to yellowing newspaper clips of 1971, which describe Kerry in such terms as "slick," "too pretty," "ambitious," "opportunistic."

John Norris, Kerry's state director in Iowa, said he isn't worried: "The East Coast press uses the word 'aloof.' It's been an asset, because Iowans come with low expectations."

Kerry appreciates the irony. "I'll say thank you to every journalist who wrote [expletive] articles about me," he joked. Then he added, "I plead guilty to being a little brash when I first got into politics. I wish they had a delete button on LexisNexis."

Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker's Palin criticism

Coulter took conservative columnist Kathleen Parker out of context to suggest that Parker made only stylistic criticisms against Gov. Sarah Palin when Parker called for Palin to withdraw as the vice-presidential nominee. In fact, Parker criticized Palin for what Parker said was a lack of substance. Coulter wrote:

Meteoric rises are available to any Republican who claims to be disgusted with the Republican Party for one or another reason. The heretofore unknown Kathleen Parker was the media's favorite Republican in 2008, after she called on Sarah Palin to withdraw from the campaign on the grounds that: She "filibusters. She repeats words, filling up space with deadwood." This might not have been manifestly insane if Palin's Democratic counterpart had been anyone other than Joe Biden -- who filibusters, repeats words, and achieves a personal coup every time he merely fills space with "deadwood," rather than one of his usual deranged pronouncements. [Page 114]

Coulter's suggestion that Parker's' criticism of Palin was limited to style rather than substance is false. In fact, in the syndicated column Coulter cited, Parker wrote, "Palin filibusters. She repeats words, filling space with deadwood. Cut the verbiage and there's not much content there [emphasis added]." Parker further wrote:

If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she's a woman -- and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket -- we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

Lipstick on a Pig

Coulter devotes four pages of Guilty [173-176] to discussing her false assertion that "Obama himself compared Palin to a pig and then denied doing so." In fact, Obama's September 9, 2008, statement, "you know, you can put lipstick on a pig; it's still a pig," did not refer to Palin, but rather to how a "list" of Sen. John McCain's policies were, according to Obama, no different from President Bush's. Obama did not mention Palin in at least the 65 words preceding his "lipstick on a pig" comment, as Media Matters noted. Moreover, the expression "lipstick on a pig" is common political rhetoric -- Obama had reportedly used the expression in the past, and McCain used it in 2007 in reference to Sen. Hillary Clinton's health-care proposal.

Former acting Massachusetts Gov. Jane Swift -- a national member of the McCain campaign's "Palin Truth Squad" -- falsely accused Obama of making "disgraceful comments comparing our vice presidential nominee, Gov. Palin, to a pig," but later backtracked on her assertion, saying that she "can't know" if Obama's comment "was aimed at Governor Palin."

Frank Rich's column on "Jeff Gannon"

Coulter misrepresents a quote by New York Times columnist Frank Rich about former Talon News "Washington Bureau Chief" Jeff Gannon -- whose real name, James Guckert, was uncovered by bloggers in February 2005 -- to assert: "The entire scandal that Frank Rich complained was not getting enough attention was that Gannon was a gay Republican [Page 200]."

Coulter writes: "Another story that the mainstream media denounced the mainstream media for ignoring was the Jeff Gannon mystery scandal. It was a mystery scandal because it was a mystery why it was a scandal. In 2005, Frank Rich bitterly complained that the ' 'Jeff Gannon' story was getting less attention than another media frenzy -- that set off by the veteran news executive Eason Jordan.' " She continues:

Rich, who became qualified to comment on U.S. foreign policy, national security, and presidential politics after spending a childhood dancing his favorite numbers from Oklahoma! in his mother's panties and then spending twelve years reviewing theater for the New York Times, attacked Gannon for not being a "real newsman." Not only that, but, Rich breathlessly reported, there were "embarrassing blogosphere revelations linking [Gannon] to sites like hotmilitarystud.com and to an apparently promising career as an X-rated $200-per-hour 'escort.' " In Rich's estimation, $200 an hour was way too much to pay a male escort who wasn't Latino. Now, if there's anybody in this world who knows what a real man is, it's Frank Rich. But as for knowing what a real newsman is, that's another story. [Page 198]

But Rich did not say that the scandal consisted of Gannon's "embarrassing blogosphere revelations" or his status as a "gay Republican." Rather, Rich focused on the fact that Gannon was a "fake[]" journalist. In the February 20, 2005, column to which Coulter refers Rich wrote:

[F]or nearly two years the White House press office had credentialed Mr. Guckert, even though, as Dana Milbank of The Washington Post explained on Mr. Olbermann's show, he "was representing a phony media company that doesn't really have any such thing as circulation or readership."

How this happened is a mystery that has yet to be solved. "Jeff" has now quit Talon News not because he and it have been exposed as fakes but because of other embarrassing blogosphere revelations linking him to sites like hotmilitarystud.com and to an apparently promising career as an X-rated $200-per-hour ''escort [emphasis added]."

Rich added: "If Mr. Guckert, the author of Talon News exclusives like 'Kerry Could Become First Gay President,' is yet another link in the boundless network of homophobic Republican closet cases, that's not without interest. But it shouldn't distract from the real question -- that is, the real news -- of how this fake newsman might be connected to a White House propaganda machine that grows curiouser by the day."

Rich continued: " 'Jeff Gannon' is now at least the sixth 'journalist' (four of whom have been unmasked so far this year) to have been a propagandist on the payroll of either the Bush administration or a barely arms-length ally like Talon News while simultaneously appearing in print or broadcast forums that purport to be real news." Rich went on to discuss Armstrong Williams, Karen Ryan, and Alberto Garcia and wrote: "Such 'reports,' some of which found their way into news packages distributed to local stations by CNN, appeared in more than 50 news broadcasts around the country and have now been deemed illegal 'covert propaganda' by the Government Accountability Office.

Media Matters has documented several instances in which Gannon lifted text directly from Republican materials and sources.

From Frank Rich's February 20, 2005, New York Times column:

''Jeff Gannon's'' real name is James D. Guckert. His employer was a Web site called Talon News, staffed mostly by volunteer Republican activists. Media Matters for America, the liberal press monitor that has done the most exhaustive research into the case, discovered that Talon's ''news'' often consists of recycled Republican National Committee and White House press releases, and its content frequently overlaps with another partisan site, GOPUSA, with which it shares its owner, a Texas delegate to the 2000 Republican convention. Nonetheless, for nearly two years the White House press office had credentialed Mr. Guckert, even though, as Dana Milbank of The Washington Post explained on Mr. Olbermann's show, he ''was representing a phony media company that doesn't really have any such thing as circulation or readership.''

How this happened is a mystery that has yet to be solved. ''Jeff'' has now quit Talon News not because he and it have been exposed as fakes but because of other embarrassing blogosphere revelations linking him to sites like hotmilitarystud.com and to an apparently promising career as an X-rated $200-per-hour ''escort.'' If Mr. Guckert, the author of Talon News exclusives like ''Kerry Could Become First Gay President,'' is yet another link in the boundless network of homophobic Republican closet cases, that's not without interest. But it shouldn't distract from the real question -- that is, the real news -- of how this fake newsman might be connected to a White House propaganda machine that grows curiouser by the day. Though Mr. McClellan told Editor & Publisher magazine that he didn't know until recently that Mr. Guckert was using an alias, Bruce Bartlett, a White House veteran of the Reagan-Bush I era, wrote on the nonpartisan journalism Web site Romenesko, that ''if Gannon was using an alias, the White House staff had to be involved in maintaining his cover.'' (Otherwise, it would be a rather amazing post-9/11 security breach.)

By my count, ''Jeff Gannon'' is now at least the sixth ''journalist'' (four of whom have been unmasked so far this year) to have been a propagandist on the payroll of either the Bush administration or a barely arms-length ally like Talon News while simultaneously appearing in print or broadcast forums that purport to be real news. Of these six, two have been syndicated newspaper columnists paid by the Department of Health and Human Services to promote the administration's ''marriage'' initiatives. The other four have played real newsmen on TV. Before Mr. Guckert and Armstrong Williams, the talking head paid $240,000 by the Department of Education, there were Karen Ryan and Alberto Garcia. Let us not forget these pioneers -- the Woodward and Bernstein of fake news. They starred in bogus reports (''In Washington, I'm Karen Ryan reporting,'' went the script) pretending to ''sort through the details'' of the administration's Medicare prescription-drug plan in 2004. Such ''reports,'' some of which found their way into news packages distributed to local stations by CNN, appeared in more than 50 news broadcasts around the country and have now been deemed illegal ''covert propaganda'' by the Government Accountability Office.

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 04, 2009 8:05 pm ET)
         

      Great job, MMFA... At this point, though, I have to wonder how many people will actually read Ann Coulter's new book, which apparently contains a rehash of warmed over lies that nobody really cares about anymore...nobody except the remaining, but hopefully declining, lunatics on the far right. Sounds to me that Coulter's new book has a major Yaaaawn factor.

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      • Author by pete592 (January 04, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
           

        "Ann Coulter's new book, which apparently contains a rehash of warmed over lies that nobody really cares about anymore"

        A-freakin'-MEN.

        The right-wing professional liars are in desperate need of new things to say. 

        Let's hope this is a sign that Skeletor's career has reached its apex.

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        • Author by Kyle_Broflovski (January 05, 2009 11:44 am ET)
             

          Ann Coulter is right.  I am OUTRAGED over John Kerry and his wimpy liberal friends.  It's time to get all conservatives and Republicans to join together to fight against John Kerry!  Please, if you are listening and you hate liberals, focus all of your attention, time, effort and money, to opposing John Kerry!!!!

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          • Author by cyberaim (January 07, 2009 10:08 am ET)
               

            Are you kidding. I mean it when I ask that.  Quote "if you hate liberals, focus all of your attention, time, effort and money to opposing John Kerry"

            You are outraged now because Ann Coulter wrote about it. Do you even bother to look up any facts yourself?

            Now, the sensible thing to do is not spend all of your energy, time and money opposing anyone at this time. You focus should be coming up with solutions to help the ecomony - yours in this case, then the bigger problem and husbanding your time to things that make sense in your life. 

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        • Author by shoes89 (January 06, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
             

          IRONY101: "Great job, MMFA."

          Really? MM's "rebuttal" is surprisingly weak, IMHO. For example, the Swift Boat's "update" of the Silver Star incident did not change anything at all. There was absolutely no discrepancy at all between Schachte's account and the Swift Boat's, though the folks at MM want you to believe there was.

          MM is just wrong (and silly) on the Gannon episode as well.

          I think most people will see that MM's article is a really weak response, even by MM standards.

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          • Author by CoolHandNuke (January 07, 2009 11:00 am ET)
               

            Agreed. The "refutation" of Ann Coulter's "lies" about liberals praising the racism hoaxers of Duke University virtually served to reinforce Coulter's assertions. Lame article.

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (January 05, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
           

        Just a few minutes ago on Hannity and Colmes, Coulter tried to change her definition of single mothers to that of mothers of "illegitimate children," and away from divorcees. What a dishonest curr.

        Obviously, she's feeling the heat. She also spent 10 minutes whining about being a victim of NBC cutting her from Today!

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (January 05, 2009 9:51 pm ET)
             

          Here's the quote from her book on this:

          In any event, divorced mothers should be called "divorced mothers," not "single mothers." We also have a term for the youngsters involved: "the children of divorce," or as I call them, "future strippers." It is a mark of how attractive it is to be a phony victim that divorcées will often claim to belong to the more disreputable category of "single mothers." [Page 36]

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          • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 4:54 am ET)
               

            Right, because we single mothers can ONLY be identified in terms of our marital status, not whether we are simply raising a child alone. I once was married!

            I love the idea of a never-married, childless ignoramous lecturing me on what is the most "reputable" way to describe myself, or my child for that matter.

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    • Author by BillJ-MN (January 04, 2009 8:17 pm ET)
         

      Guilty?  Did she choose a title to represent what her plea would have been if she'd been tried for voter fraud?

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    • Author by snoopy (January 04, 2009 8:28 pm ET)
         

      Which of her books isn't filled with falsehoods?

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      • Author by magnolialover (January 05, 2009 12:31 pm ET)
           

        None of the above. They all are. Just opinion, and innuendo mostly, and also, she takes bits and pieces from sources, and uses them way out of context.

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      • Author by historygeek001 (January 05, 2009 4:11 pm ET)
           

        Not just her books.  Is there any hour that she is AWAKE during which she doesn't lie?  Does she even know what telling the truth means?

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    • Author by ohiocore (January 04, 2009 8:38 pm ET)
         

      Coulter has no relevance whatsoever.  A racist hoax from 1997?  Swiftboats Veterans for Truth?  Jeff Gannon?  What year does Tranny think it is?  What's next, a scathing expose on the Teapot Dome Scandal?  

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      • Author by snoopy (January 04, 2009 8:41 pm ET)
           

        Uranus - did capt. kirk really search for klingons? ;)

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      • Author by nerzog (January 05, 2009 10:37 am ET)
           

        Didn't one of her previous books extol the misunderestimated heroism of Joe McCarthy?

        The woman is a canker sore on the backside of American Punditry.

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        • Author by magnolialover (January 05, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
             

          It was either her, or Michelle Malkin who I think made Joe McCarthy out to be some sort of American hero, you know, rooting out all those bad "commies" in the acting business, the CIA, and other places.

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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 07, 2009 9:27 am ET)
               

            McCarthy did not interview the Hollywood Ten...That was HUAC...McCarthy was a Senator.  Also the bad "commies" were in the State Dept not the CIA...I can give you the "other places", but I'm sure it will fall on deaf ears...I mean the left has been deaf about this for 60 yrs! 

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      • Author by tman418 (January 05, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
           

        Amen ohiocore. Next up, how Nixon was framed for Watergate!

        Not to be too off topic, but if you ever heard of the "Politically Incorrect Guides", it's a serious of conservative books meant to "fight conventional wisdom" about things like The South, The Civil War, Global Warming & Environmentalism, even Literature. In their book "The P.I.G. Guide To American History", they also try to claim that Joe McCarthy was right. Their evidence: 2 people who were tried during the McCarthy hearings who MIGHT have been communists, but were never found to be.

        Anyone praising Joe McCarthy is insane. But in this P.I.G. Guide, they completely ignore Watergate. No Republican has ever yet proven Watergate to be a fraud.

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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 07, 2009 9:53 am ET)
             

          tman, can't opine on the validity of the book, but will take you to task on the two people "tried" during the McCarthy hearings.  Not sure it you ment it that way, but these were hearings not trials. 

          Not defending McCarthy's tactics here,  he was censured because of sharp exchanges with other Senators after all, but he exposed the infiltration of Foggy Bottom and has since been vindicated with the Venona decrypts.  

          If you don't mind, who were the two people you refer to?

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    • Author by oscar the grouch (January 04, 2009 8:52 pm ET)
         

      Well, it looks like annie may have won in the long run. It appears MMFA must have purchased a copy, which equates to a few $$ in her pocket.  Or did MMFA spuriously obtain the copy which was examined???

      Happy New Year, everyone!!!!  Looking forward with great anticipation to Spring (and the global warming it should bring).

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      • Author by snoopy (January 04, 2009 9:01 pm ET)
           

        I'm pretty sure you can get a copy for free just by subscribing to name_your_right_wing_fantasy_site_here !

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        • Author by oscar the grouch (January 04, 2009 9:07 pm ET)
             

          Who would want even a free copy?? I'd be afraid that if it were on my bookshelf, it might reproduce. Now, for a bribe of $19.95 (usual cost of a 200 page hardcover, more or less), I might be interested ;>).

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          • Author by magnolialover (January 05, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
               

            I'd like a free copy, for a good laugh. I wouldn't shell out any of my own hard earned money for this diatribe of BS.

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      • Author by juliajayne (January 04, 2009 9:01 pm ET)
           

        Oscar, MMFA got a boot leg copy with the front cover ripped off. Or maybe somebody just didn't like the cover...:-)

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (January 04, 2009 8:54 pm ET)
         

      After this expose by MMFA, I am sure Ann "venom" Coulter will represent her work as a ' joke " , I am also sure her army of adoring fans wiil buy the book and not read it.

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    • Author by robrob (January 04, 2009 9:13 pm ET)
         

      "It was a mystery scandal because it was a mystery why it was a scandal."

      Can you imagine the RW uproar would have been like if it turned out President Clinton took softball questions from a fake journalist/secret male escort with an outstanding arrest warrant? One who not only received access to White House press conferences (after being turned down for Congressional access) but signed in to the White House on a number of occasions after hours!?

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      • Author by Brabantio (January 04, 2009 9:49 pm ET)
           

        It's an interesting contrast that Coulter presents:Gannon doesn't deserve any media attention, but she herself devotes four pages to "lipstick on a pig".  So delusions of personal attacks are what should be dominating the news cycle, not the use of fake journalists being used to help insure that the President doesn't have to answer difficult, objective questioning.

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        • Author by MickD (January 04, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
             

          I always wondered why the Gannon thing was summarily dismissed by the MSM. Doesn't sex sell, especially on their ludricous 24/7 channels? Oops, it's not Dem sex, therefore it's of the icky repressed variety.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 05, 2009 10:34 am ET)
           

        Actually, you could apply that same principle to any of the scandals that bobbed up and summarily vanished during the Bush administration.  I don't care what the screechmonkeys claim,  Puddinhead George got a free ride from the MSM.

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    • Author by mk3872 (January 04, 2009 9:29 pm ET)
         

      How is this any different than Jerome Corsi? Same hate of anyone not in their camp or sharing their beliefs. No new ideas, just more hate food to turn the wheels of the right wing media machines Drudge, FoxNews, AM radio & Politico.

      What I find very interesting is that Coulter considers herself a counter to someone like Michael Moore. Yet Moore presents ideas and ways for the U.S. to improve while someone like Coulter and Corsi just spew hatred and personal attacks.

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    • Author by MickD (January 04, 2009 11:02 pm ET)
         

      Why so much on John Kerry? Hey Annie, 2004 called, they want your black cocktail dress back.

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (January 05, 2009 12:06 am ET)
           

        Maybe Ann Coulter is running out of things to say so she has to recycle John Kerry to get attention. American voters have already spoken loudly that they are tired of the predicatble Republican attacks on Barack Obama. Coulter, I suspect, is preaching to a diminishing choir. But do you think her readers really care about John Kerry today? I doubt it. I hope Ann had all those bulk sales (to conservative groups) lined up before she went to press on this one.

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      • Author by eecee (January 05, 2009 8:59 am ET)
           

        "2004 called"?  Try 1978.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 04, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
         

      ANNTHRAX COULTER and her books  deserve nothing except to be thrown into the trash heap where they all belong.

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    • Author by captfoster2 (January 05, 2009 12:09 am ET)
         

      While it is certainly a good thing to see that MMfA is on the job exposing the lies and BS of the rightwing and its resident 80 lb flamethrowing witch...

      I did not need to read this thread to find out that Ann Coultergiest is at it again with another pathetic book filled with as much crap as a GWB press conference...

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (January 05, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
           

        Or more recently ( last night ) Bob Schieffer interviewing Dick Cheney claiming he had seen reports before 9-11 that Iraq had WMD, Abd Schieffer just sat there, probably in awe, not asking for the papers or proof of these papers.

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    • Author by eecee (January 05, 2009 8:58 am ET)
         

      Coulter is typically full of it when she talks about SBVT.  For instance:

      1.  It was 254 guys who signed the SBVT letter, not 294.  And almost none of them even  knew Kerry in Vietnam, much less had anything to say about his record there.  They signed a letter, period. It was maybe 14 who made claims against him, not who defended him.

      2. The Sleaze Boaters didn't "retract" anything, much to their shame, but they did change their stories plenty of times. 

      On the other hand, not a single substantive claim they ever made about Kerry's military service has ever been proven true.  Not a single one.

      3.  Kerry "retracted" nothing.  He did acknowledge he probably wasn't five miles over the Cambodian border on Christmas Eve 1968 (as he'd claimed once back in the '70s), but he has never said he didn't cross the border that night.  He has always said - in his journal excerpt published by Brinkley and the Boston Globe, and in the Globe interview - that he was on a routine patrol going up to the border that night.  At least two crewmembers agree.  He also said he was ambushed near the border - the ambush is documented in his fitness report.  He told the Globe (among others) that he thought he crossed the border during the patrol/ambush.

      4.  Re Kerry's Bronze Star, Coulter has it backwards.  At least 11 eyewitnesses - including one on Thurlow's own boat - back Kerry's version of the story.  SBVT has maybe six or eight, including the three commanders (one of whom was knocked out during the event).

      I love her defense of Thurlow, though.  She imagines he didn't actually read his own commendation - you know, the part where it says he came under enemy fire.

      And as MMFA points out, Kerry did not leave the action, but turned back as soon as he realized the other boat had been hit and proceeded to assist in saving that boat.  Not even the SBVTers claim he left the scene without returning.

      5.  Kerry bought his movie camera at the PX in Cam Ranh Bay - that's how common they were over there.  And not a single person who was with him says he ever "re-enacted" anything, ever. 

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      • Author by DougReese (January 05, 2009 9:11 am ET)
           

        Actually, it was something like 197 guys who signed the otiginal letter in early May 2004. When all was said and done (let's say, by Oct 2004) there were 254 guys who had joined the Swift Boat Veterans for "truth".

        And yes, most of them never saw Kerry in Vietnam.

        Oh, and the number of guys eligible to join? Around 2,500-3,000. That alone should tell you something.

        Doug Reese

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        • Author by DougReese (January 05, 2009 9:14 am ET)
             

          Sorry -- forgot. About the re-enacting lie (and make no mistake about it -- it is a lie, a blatant, baldfaced lie) . . . . . kinda hard to re-enact when you never return to the location of the incident.

          Doug Reese

          PS. Happy New Year everyone -- you too, Tom, should you appear :)

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        • Author by eecee (January 05, 2009 11:27 am ET)
             

          Good points, thanks.

          So that means that despite their very best recruiting efforts, and months of national publicity, they only got about 60 more guys to join up.  Out of nearly 3,000. 

          That says a lot too.

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        • Author by bingo (January 06, 2009 1:14 am ET)
             
          Oh, and the number of guys eligible to join? Around 2,500-3,000. That alone should tell you something.

          Really? Then, perhaps, we're free to assume that the number of "Swift Boat Veterans for Kerry" might tell us something as well?

          Tell us Mr. Reese, in what phonebooth are you gathering the convocation?

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          • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 5:10 am ET)
               

            "Really? Then, perhaps, we're free to assume that the number of 'Swift Boat Veterans for Kerry' might tell us something as well?"

            Why?  Was there such a group seeking members?  Actively recruiting them?  Hiring private detectives to find 'em?  Promoting their campaign on national radio and TV, and magazine and newspapers?

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          • Author by DougReese (January 06, 2009 8:56 am ET)
               

            Thank you Mr/Ms/Miss/Mrs (whatever you are) Bingo for another opinionated, fact-free, misleading, comment.

            As for that phone booth, it would be the same phone booth the detractors of Kerry's Silver Star -- the detractors out of the 25 or so guys who were present at that incident -- would gather in.

            Oh, wait a minute. They don't even need a phone booth, cause there weren't any!

            Doug Reese

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 05, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
         

      As an observer of ANNTHRAX COULTER for several years,i've noted that all she brings to the table is fire and venom to anyone that difers from her FAR RIGHT WING beliefs. I remember when she trashed the 9/11 widows who had the gall to vote for JOHN KERRY over her precious BOY GEORGE BUSH. She never offers any positive solutions to the problems we are dealing with. She's probably not intellegent to come up with any.I would love to see her along with all her pro REPUBLICAN heros thrown  into the trashheap of history.

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      • Author by magnolialover (January 05, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
           

        True enough, and with the attacks being regurgitated on Kerry about his service record, she shows again her true colors about how she really feels about people who have served in the military. As long as they agree with her very tinted world outlook, they're "good" military people, proud and honorable, but should they disagree with her outlook (such as Kerry), they must be fake and phony, and not have served their country honorably at all.

        Imagine that.

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    • Author by magnolialover (January 05, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
         

      This sort of reminds me of the "War on Christmas" books that we were subjected to for several years, where the authors take a handful of examples of things that happened somewhere in the US, or even in other countries, to show that indeed, the whole WORLD is against Christmas. Except Ms. Coulter continues to use the same old stories over and over again (most of which, or all of which, have been disproven time and again) to make the liberals look like the bad guys. For some reason, for 6 years or so, the republicans ran the country, we were told to sit back and let the adults run things for awhile, and in that time, we took a severe nosedive, so guess what? Yep, it's democrats and liberals who are at fault. Amazing how that works eh?

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    • Author by metalhead39 (January 05, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
         

      Shouldn't booksellers just put this thing in the fiction section and be done with it?  Would save us all a bunch of time and we could go back to rooting around for real news.

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      • Author by leftinmississippi (January 05, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
           

        You're right - it should be in the fiction section, or maybe there should be a new section for delusional fantasies to make the dittohead feel better about his pathetic existence.  Maybe the self-help section, then. Like the Lifetime Movie Network for angry old white men.

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      • Author by lapsedlawyer (January 06, 2009 12:33 am ET)
           

        But not in the humor section.  Somebody remind me just why we're suppose to believe this thing is funny?

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    • Author by edrossinoelwein9669 (January 05, 2009 3:54 pm ET)
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      It's sure nice of MMFA to promote Ms. Coulter's newest book. The people who prominently promote Keith Olbermann think Coulter is lying! Must be worth reading.

      I'm reminded of a book review I read by W.F. Buckley on Jerry Rubin's "Steal This Book." I always read Buckley with a dictionary nearby, but in reviewing Rubin's inanity, Buckley didn't use a single word I needed to look up! So, I went out and got the book. (By the way, Buckley was right - it was a tragic waste of time.)

      Olbermann reminds me of a pekinese dog - lots of noise but no substance.

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (January 05, 2009 4:41 pm ET)
           

        EdRoss you remind me of a pekinese poodle...

        A lot of typing and no examples.

        Nice work to everyone here who contacted NBC.  Surprisingly, they did the right thing.

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      • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 5:26 am ET)
           

        You read the book and you didn't know it was written by Abbie Hoffman? 

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    • Author by chimpevil (January 05, 2009 4:51 pm ET)
         

      Can you even imagine for one millisecond if Jeff Gannon had surfaced as Dem hack during the Clinton administration?  My god there would have been articles, books, the blogosphere would have exploded and it would still be an active discussion to this day!  The skankiness of this freakin skank knows no bounds!

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      • Author by chimpevil (January 05, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
           

        Sorry robrob didn't see your comment before I posted.  But like you said and what I said, the scandal would have been unimaginable had it been the other way round, and seriously this is one of the major events that I saw that proved the msm was in the bag for Bush. And as for what skank (backed by the AEI et al who will buy up a buncha books to get her trash, and others, on the NYT list) is doing, Paul Waldman in his book Fraud-highly recommended-perfectly described this phenomenon as the Orwellian curve, where the right would take its most egregious offenses and bend them back on the left, and then the whole thing would be put forth in the msm as a meme to discredit said left.  Except this time it's not gonna wash becuse (a) there are more important things to deal with and (b) she's a used up dishrag that has no use for anything productive during these times.

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    • Author by redlegtruax7718 (January 05, 2009 5:04 pm ET)
         

      Wow, a flaming liberal website finds 'problems' with a conservative author and her claims.  I'm shocked.

      What's laughable is that most of MMFAs counters to Coulter is their own 'analysis and research', and not a whole lot of independent articles and sources.  What a joke.  Show me the articles that don't have an obvious bias (lib or conserv), show me the sources that aren't spin-meisters for one party (or special-interest group) or another.  Then I might believe some of what's written here.

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    • Author by copiousdissent.blogspot.com (January 05, 2009 6:04 pm ET)
         

      Also, there wasn't one False claim made by the swiftboat veterans.  Not one.

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      • Author by chimpevil (January 05, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
           

        Did you even read the artice copiousdung?  If not try this--http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/05/03/eric-boehlerts-lapdogs_n_20318.html

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      • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (January 05, 2009 6:52 pm ET)
           

        Son,

        Drinking copious amounts of kool-aid is no way to go through life.

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      • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 5:21 am ET)
           

        Actually, there were plenty of false claims.  For instance:

        http://homepage.mac.com/chinesemac/kerry_medals/truth.html

        Now how about you name a single substantive claim they made about his military service that's been proven?  A single one.

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      • Author by DougReese (January 06, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
           

        I have $1,000 to give to your favorite charity if I can NOT show you a false claim made by the Swift Boat Veterans for "truth".

        If I am able to show you a false claim (actually,several), you give $100 to one of my favorite charities?

        What say you?

        Doug Reese

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        • Author by bingo (January 06, 2009 1:50 pm ET)
             

          What say you?

          Getting a bit desperate for a soapbox are we Mr. Reese?

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          • Author by DougReese (January 06, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
               

            Not at all. Care to make a little wager, keyboard commando? I think not.

            Doug Reese

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    • Author by Goldwater (January 05, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
         

      As far as the swift boat veterans go, why has John Kerry never released his military records to settle all of this?

      He has not even released his discharge papers.

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      • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
           

        They've been online since 2004, including his discharge papers:

        http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/lit/election2004/docs.html

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    • Author by WoodHe (January 05, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
         

      The bias in these comments reveals far more about MM.org than their nit-pickings over Coulter's latest book.

      It's like an echo chamber in here.  Do any of you do your own thinking?

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      • Author by sigtek44bc1345 (January 06, 2009 7:45 pm ET)
           

        Tread carefully, woodman. You'll awaken the townfolk. It'll be like the scene in frankenstein where you're the monster and they are the torch-bearing mob. Been there, done that and it ain't pretty('ceptin' for juliajayne)

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    • Author by pamelawashburn5575 (January 05, 2009 6:21 pm ET)
         

      It seems like everyone here is fairly strongly against Ann Coulter.  She is, you must know, the most extreme of the conservative authors.  Most people read her books for amusement, not as a source of conservative doctrine.  Liberals have their own extreme authors; Michael Moore and Al Franken are Ann's liberal counterparts.  You probably don't want to get into a breakdown of their hateful comments.  Liberals and Conservatives lie.  Conservatives and Liberals insult each other.  No one has the corner on the market when it comes to race-baiting, insulting, spewing vitriol, etc.  Trying to keep a tally of who does it more is a waste of time.  The most important thing is to discuss the issues.

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    • Author by myowngrandpaw (January 05, 2009 6:42 pm ET)
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      Kerry himself has admitted he was not in Cambodia. John ONiell did not go before a senate committee and talk about US soldiers burning bodies, villages in the likes of Ghengis Kahn(sp?).  John ONiell did not submit reports awarding himself various medals. John ONiell didn't throw his medals across the fence like they were his, but keep his own medals in safe keeping.  Kerry has yet to release documents that would exonerate his claims. Why is that? Foxnews, immediately retracted their error.  Foxnews did not KNOWINGLY stage or falsify documents to get their point across.  Obama referred to Palin directly or indirectly by using her quote in a different way. He tried to steal or parody her line and got burned for it. What is the difference between defending such a racially tinged act at Duke and praising the act. It was either right or wrong.  It can't be right for some and a criminal act for others, as the N word. As for Foxnews, they reported what they thought was true based on some writers on the internet.  They did not go to great lengths as Dan Rather and NBC to make their case.  Dan Rather has still not admitted he did anything wrong. That was out and out fraud.  Ann Coulter is a lot closer to the truth than the major networks. She is a valuable asset to media matters!

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      • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
           

        "Kerry himself has admitted he was not in Cambodia. John ONiell did not go before a senate committee and talk about US soldiers burning bodies, villages in the likes of Ghengis Kahn(sp?).  John ONiell did not submit reports awarding himself various medals. John ONiell didn't throw his medals across the fence like they were his, but keep his own medals in safe keeping.  Kerry has yet to release documents that would exonerate his claims."

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        Wow, is it possible for you to paste one more SBVT lie/talking point in there?

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    • Author by bingo (January 06, 2009 12:16 am ET)
         

      In preparation for the ad, French signed a sworn affidavit for the Swift Boat Veterans asserting that Kerry had received his Purple Heart "from negligently self-inflicted wounds in the absence of hostile fire." The affidavit French signed declared, "I do hereby swear, that all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct and within my personal knowledge and belief" (emphasis added).

      Oh my. Amid all this righteous journalistic indignation, one would think that Media Mutters, after FOUR YEARS of mis-quoting (and emphases added), might actually take a moment to look at a source document of Al French's ACTUAL AFFIDAVIT and correct their now-eternal misquote.

      You guys are a laugh riot.

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      • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 5:14 am ET)
           

        Oh my, Bingo.  After FOUR YEARS of having it pointed out to you, and amid all your righteous indignation, one would think you would be willing to admit to the central lie in Al French's affidavit: that he swore that "ALL FACTS AND STATEMENTS IN THIS AFFIDAVIT ARE TRUE AND CORRECT."

        You are a laugh riot, guy.

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        • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 5:18 am ET)
             

           "all facts and statements contained in this affidavit are true and correct."

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    • Author by goodguy1 (January 06, 2009 3:50 am ET)
         

      "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 

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    • Author by eecee (January 06, 2009 4:52 am ET)
         

      Right, because we single mothers can ONLY be identified in terms of our marital status, not whether we are simply raising a child alone. I once was married!

      I love the idea of a never-married, childless ignoramous lecturing me on what is the most "reputable" way to describe myself, or my child for that matter.

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    • Author by WWWexler (January 06, 2009 8:27 am ET)
         

      All you have to do is watch Faux News for an hour or so to see numerous examples of frauds they promote.  Their entire premise is a fraud.  Their entire presentation is a fraud.

      I would have thought you could have come up with some better examples.  I'm not an expert on Faux because every time I turn them on they are reporting in a fraudulent manner and I reflexively change channels.

      -Wexler

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    • Author by ryno6920 (January 06, 2009 8:27 am ET)
         

      Swift-boating is now a verb with the definition being exposing the truth.

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      • Author by congero6189599 (January 06, 2009 12:48 pm ET)
           

        You can make up your own reality but if not based on objective truth it comes back to smack you in the face...Tell me how the last elections went for you?

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      • Author by emjayay (January 06, 2009 12:58 pm ET)
           

        No ryn6920, it's exactly the opposite.  Dictionary.com for example defines swift boating as a "strong perjorative description of some kind of attack that the speaker considers unfair or untrue, for example an ad hominem attack or smear campaign."

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    • Author by bsmdbt (January 06, 2009 10:43 am ET)
         

      Wow, media matters is obviously a partisan liberal shill group. I was reading their "attack" on Ann Coulters book and noticed their weak attempt at trying to discredit coulters facts.  for example..Coulter asserted that Fox News had never been caught promoting a fraud..as liberals would have you believe..  Media matters then pulls out a few cases in which news and pranks, not originating from Fox News was reported by Fox News...ah yeah, nice try media Matters, but all this shows is how morally bancrupt and partisan your organization is.  CBS, via Dan Rather, for example, INVENTED the now famous GEORGE BUSH NATIONAL GAURD stories.  They made up the story, they provided the bogus source materiel, and they promoted it on their NEWS SHOW...that is Fraud...and that is why the producers , Mary Mapes and the Anchor , Dan Rather were fired.  To this day CBS has not owned up to their culpability in the fraud...Now look at media matters spin on what constitutes fraud...being fooled by a "prank" news story (that other media outlets also reported and were fooled by), and then when they found out it was a bogus story...ewhat did fox news do??? did they try to hide they had been duped? did they deny they reported it as a factual story...no...they did the right thing and reported that they had erred and reported a bogus story as fact...something Media matters seems to have a problem with..but seems to have no problem with the criminally liable and fraudulent story CBS INVENRED IN HOUSE and ran with and to this day refuse to accept accountability for.  Then lets move to other networks that are on the "partisan" Obama bandwagon...oh its not innuendo and my feeling , those networks actually said during the general election that they were for Obama, several saying openly that "they were in the bag" fopr him...so much for objectivity in News...but Media matters doesnt notice this???? Hmmm that says a lot about the integrity of Media matters.  So with this I can pretty much write off everything Media Matters says, as they clearly have ZERO credibility on giving a fair and balanced assessment of anything political..they are a democrat run and funded organization, so stop pretending like your unbiased and non-partisan...to keep doing that you assume your customers are all idiots.

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    • Author by sigtek44bc1345 (January 06, 2009 11:20 am ET)
         

      At least she can be on Oprah's best seller list!

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    • Author by antifluff (January 06, 2009 11:23 am ET)
         

      falsehoods?  maybe exaggerations, maybe different definitions: perpetuating fraud (you site examples of mistaken reporting) and different versions of same story.  While this sounds great, that you have managed to display what you see as mistakes, you ignore the major points of the book.

      While pretending ignorance at obvious slams against Palin, you proclaim Obama's innocence; his audiences verified his true intent (deny that!).

      This article resembles L Ron Hubbard's works: a whole bunch of words with vaguely connected examples tied up as the "real" point of view.  It sounded like blah, blah, blah.

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    • Author by perry logan (January 06, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
         

      They've created numerous new circles of Hell to accommodate the Republicans.  I can't imagine what the punishment for smearing a Viet Nam War hero.

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      • Author by MissDee (January 06, 2009 1:48 pm ET)
           

        Maybe you can ask Irony, Snoopy or Sanders on here- they sure did enough smearing of John McCain's time in a POW camp  on here. I'm sure they'll probably find out first hand and let you know.

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      • Author by bingo (January 06, 2009 1:54 pm ET)
           

        I can't imagine what the punishment for smearing a Viet Nam War hero.

        Perhaps a byline at Media Mutters?  Ask Boehlert...who misquotes an affidavit to aid that particular process.

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    • Author by jd5502 (January 06, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
         

      The timing of Obama's "lipstick on a pig" statement was meant as a slam at Palin regardless of the context of the statement.

      For Obama to make the statement without considering that people would make the connection would make him borderline retarded.

      For anyone to realistically expect people not to make the connection would be to believe the people to be beyond retarded.

      I don't believe Obama is stupid or a retard. I do believe he is arrogant enough to think we would believe his denial though.

      Rick,

      Texas

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      • Author by adamrberry150 (January 06, 2009 10:09 pm ET)
           

        No, the joke was used as a parallel to the lipstick and a pitbull joke, but if Obama wanted to call Palin a pig he would have done so. You're jumping to conclusions Ricky.

        I watched Coulter's appearance on Fox last night. She was discussing how women should keep their legs closed until they are married. She has never been married... do you think she's a hypocrital wench or is she really 'saving herself'? Answer, Rick?

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      • Author by Brabantio (January 07, 2009 12:15 am ET)
           

        So even though the phrase is well-known in politics, even though it had a perfectly clear and consistent meaning as relating to McCain's policies, Palin owns the word "lipstick" because she used it during her speech.  Any reference to that word, no matter what it is, must be a reference to her.  When McCain uses the phrase about Hillary's policies, it's innocent.  When Obama uses it, it's a slam.

        I find it sort of funny that right-wingers expect someone to be politically correct to the point that they can't use a well-established phrase because someone might take that as being about someone who's not even being mentioned anywhere near the phrase.  Isn't that the sort of hypersensitivity that right-wingers accuse liberals of displaying?  Isn't that the sort of thing where you say "get over it, quit whining"?

        And I'm sure that if McCain had said something like "black sheep of the family" at some point during the campaign, even if he wasn't talking about Obama at all, then you would accept the assertion that he must have been making a racist reference about Obama.  When you say that the context doesn't matter, that's the sort of nonsensical criticism you open your own side up for.

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    • Author by jd5502 (January 06, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
         

      Wasn't Kerry going to release his FULL Military records and put all this to rest? I distinctly remember him making the promise, but those records are still sealed.

      Rick

      Texas

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      • Author by eecee (January 07, 2009 1:01 am ET)
           

        Exactly what would be put to rest by you being able to see Kerry's original personnel records?

        Be specific please.

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        • Author by bingo (January 07, 2009 1:29 am ET)
             

          Exactly what would be put to rest by you being able to see Kerry's original personnel records?

          Given Kerry's track record of dissembling and flat out lying on the issue, one might surmise that Kerry's political career might be put to rest.

          In the interim, page 1 of the Streuli fitness report (which he has, to this day, buried) and the "less than flattering" correspondence alluded to by Stephen Braun of the LA Times would probably be an interesting read.

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          • Author by eecee (January 07, 2009 2:20 am ET)
               

            What exactly would be contained on the first page of the Streuhli fitness report (which according to the news organization that saw it, contained a recommendation for advanced promotion) that would contradict anything on the second page, which you've seen on the Internet?   You know, the page where all the performance boxes were checked "above majority" or higher?  The page with the part asking if weaknesses had been discussed with the officer, and instead of marking the box for "yes" or "no," the CO marked the box for "no significant weaknesses noted" ?  The page with the "comments" section, where the CO was instructed to comment on any weaknesses, and no weaknesses were mentioned, nor any negative comments at all made; instead Kerry was described as, among other things, "exhibit[ing] all the traits desired of an officer in a combat envrionment" during the short time he'd been in the division.  That page.

            Kerry's letters to his girlfriend would probably be an interesting read too, but like correspondence "alluded to" by Mr. Braun, they aren't part of the personnel record.   As you are aware.

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            • Author by bingo (January 07, 2009 9:30 am ET)
                 

              What exactly would be contained on the first page of the Streuhli fitness report (which according to the news organization that saw it, contained a recommendation for advanced promotion) that would contradict anything on the second page, which you've seen on the Internet?

              I don't know...you don't know...perhaps even the "journalists" given access to it don't know (or don't care to know and/or tell). Perhaps Kerry was uncomfortable with the public revelation a particular "ding" in an aspect of his "performance of duty" or "desirability".  Who knows what might have transpired in Kerry and his campaign's image-obsessed heads at the time that might have triggered such a decision to withhold.

              That being said, Kerry has not released it for public examination and the very fact of its non-disclosure was curiously masked during the campaign...and all-but ignored by major media.

              The missing Streuli Page 1, like Hilary's Rose Law Firm records, purportedly magically reappeared in Kerry's SF180 limited release of records to 3 "journalists" known to be Kerry-friendly. Based solely upon their "analysis" of that document, we are advised that this addition to Kerry's prior and oft-characterized "complete release" is of no consequence. Given Kerry's documented history of unfulfilled pledges to release his records to public access and his outright dishonesty in frequently characterizing those already released as "complete", the apparent lack of media inquisitiveness on this document is peculiar.

              Not only is this now "discovered" Page 1 still shielded from public scrutiny, the very fact that it was missing from Kerry's original "complete release" of records was difficult to discern...perhaps intentionally so.  Kerry's presentation sequence (by date) of his 2 page fitness reports (Page 1 then Page 2) was altered commencing with the Streuli fitrep.

              You can still view the mis-sequencing here.

              Page 1 and Page 2 of Streuli's fitrep covering Kerry's period of service with Coastal 13 (sandwiched between 2 Coastal 11 assignments), should have sequentially followed Page 2 (pdf p.21) of LCDR Elliot's first of 2 Kerry fitreps.  Instead, we are next presented with Page 2 of LCDR Elliot's final Kerry fitrep (pdf p.22) (composed some 9 MONTHS after the completion of Kerry's tour), then Page 1 of that same fitrep (pdf p.23), then the orphaned Page 2 (pdf p.24) of Streuli's fitrep.  So as to be a bit more clear, here's the altered "sequence" more graphically...

              (Elliott #1 Page 1 pdf p.20) -> (Elliot #1 Page 2 pdf p.21) -> (Elliot #2 Page 2 pdf p.22)->(Elliot #2 Page 1 pdf p.23)->(Streuli Page 2 pdf p.24).

              In effect, this mis-sequencing, whether deliberate or in ignorance, makes it extremely difficult (if not nearly impossible) to mentally discern the fact that <u>Streuli's Page 2 HAD NO PAGE 1</u> as it is preceded by an out of sequence Elliot Page 1. 

              Buried? Who knows fersure...but in the offchance that some "Journalist" (large "J") might wander this bastion of unbridled truth, there's an unresolved story begging for resolution.  Surely the "Chosen 3" wouldn't deny you the opportunity for a look-see at a document whose brethren have already been publicly revealed by Mr. Kerry?

              Kerry's letters to his girlfriend would probably be an interesting read too, but like correspondence "alluded to" by Mr. Braun, they aren't part of the personnel record.   As you are aware.

              Apparently the DoD record keepers disagree with your snark...as the aforementioned "correspondence" was in Mr. Braun's hands to be "alluded to" (and assumedly those of Messrs. Kranish and Johnson) courtesy of Kerry's SF180 largesse...as you are aware. 

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              • Author by eecee (January 07, 2009 2:37 pm ET)
                   

                Wel Bingo, your entire fantasy of the page being "withheld," "not released," "buried," and then "magically reappearing" is premised pn the assumption that Kerry had it at the time he posted his other records, or even later.  Of course Kerry said he had posted everything the Navy sent him at the time; just before the election he said they were still sending him stuff.  As the news organizations said, and as anyone who has ever sought files from the government knows, inconsistent flow of information is the typical response to requests.

                Bur far be it from Bingo to build a pink stucco condo on top of a faulty assumption!

                And once again, the second page of the report specifically said there were "no significant weaknesses noted" in the report, and when instructed to list any weaknesses in the comments section, Streuli and Elliott specifically commended Kerry instead.

                But yes, please please please continue harping on the idea that the pages of the report are uhm, "mis-sequenced" in the way they were POSTSED ON THE INTERNET BY AN AIDE.  Year in, year out, dependable Bingo.  I can think of fewer examples of the utter paucity of your arguments.  It must gall you that not even the SBVTers - heck, not even Scott Swett, who will repeat anything! - picked up the call.

                By the way Bingo, your scrupulous detective work failed to note (or ignore) the dates on the reports.  The report with a signature date of 18 Dec. '69 follows on with a signature date of 16 Dec. '68.  The signatures on the second page of the Streuli/Elliott report are dated 28 Jan. '69 and 17 March '69, respectively.   It is posted just after a report with a signature dated 18 Dec. '69 and just befofre one with a signature dated 12 Aug. '69.   What's an aide to do when faced with dates like this?  Well, maybe, for one thing, go by the dates shown on the "period of report" on the first page of the reports...so a second page dated 28 Jan-17 March '69 gets stuck behind a first page for a period from 14 Dec. '68 to 26 March '69 and just before the report for the period commencing 11 April '69.   Was the guy confused by the 18 Dec. '69 date on signature line of the Elliott report?  Did he just assume it was a typo and stick the signature page behind the report dated 16 Dec. '68 and before the report for the period commencing 14 Dec. '68?  Is it sloppy?  Sure.  But logic would dictate such a possibility.  But of course I've never known logic to slow down your little train once it's going.

                And as to the "correspondence" Braun saw - actually requests for medal documentation of, according to Braun - your ignorance is stunning.  To maintain it for all these years I can only conclude it's deliberate.  It's not like this information hasn't been pointed out to you before. The DoD might have included Kerry's Christmas card list in the stuff they sent to Braun, but it doesn't mean it's part of the official personnel file.  Have you really not bothered to find out what is required to be included...really, after all this time?

                C'mon Bingo, it's a simple click of the ol' Google button.  For instance:

                http://www.navy.mil/navydata/questions/r_officer.html

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                • Author by eecee (January 07, 2009 3:09 pm ET)
                     

                  PS, since I know you can't be depended on to  click on a link at the bottom of a page, I'll go ahead and give you the link to the second page of that item here:

                  http://www.navy.mil/navydata/questions/l_officer.html

                  On the other hand, it would be sort of fun to watch you sputter away about all the stuff that's been "withheld" from that site.  I hate to admit how entertaining your ignorance can be sometimes.

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    • Author by arty328790 (January 07, 2009 3:33 am ET)
         

      I find it interesting that MM founds parity between the Fox morning weather man and Dan Rather the CBS evening news anchorman.  I think we can all accept the fact that Ducey isn't the face of Fox news, but Rather formerly was the face of CBS.

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    • Author by eecee (January 07, 2009 4:16 am ET)
         

      And now a question for you, Bingo.

      That fitness report was co-signed by George Elliott, a member of SBVT who didn't hesitate to badmouth Kerry on behalf of his pals.  So why hasn't he stepped forward to expose any negative information contained on that first page? Wouldn't SBVT have wanted to broadcast that to the world?

      As far as I know, he hasn't disputed anything that's in any of those reports, but of course that's not a question.

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      • Author by bingo (January 07, 2009 10:09 am ET)
           

        That fitness report was co-signed by George Elliott, a member of SBVT who didn't hesitate to badmouth Kerry on behalf of his pals.  So why hasn't he stepped forward to expose any negative information contained on that first page? Wouldn't SBVT have wanted to broadcast that to the world?

        Gosh EECEE. Might it be that his recall of the exact content of every rating contained in every block on page 1 of a fitrep he ENDORSED almost 40 years ago just might be too vague a memory upon which to base any comment? 

        Perhaps an actual LOOK at the document might have been useful in that regard?  Even given the opportunity to SEE the document might well elicit a yawn from Cmdr. Elliot (or anyone else for that matter) and might have laid this particular issue to rest.  Instead, for whatever reason or motivation 
        (I'll go with Kerry hypersensitivity for now), it remains another unanswered question.

        As far as I know, he hasn't disputed anything that's in any of those reports, but of course that's not a question.

        OK...then I'll pose one.  What became of the original Kerry fitrep that was, almost assuredly, composed by CMDR Elliott upon Kerry's departure from Vietnam? Apparently it went missing...as CMDR Elliott was pressed to compose another some 9 MONTHS after the fact.  Odd...very odd.

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        • Author by eecee (January 07, 2009 3:02 pm ET)
             

          Actually Bingo, George Elliott did not ENDORSE (as you like to say) that fitness report.  If you'd bothered to read the signature block, you'd notice he signed it as a "regular reporting senior" just like Streuli.  The second signature line is provided for a "concurrent or special report."   We know it was a regular "first report" covering the brief period when Kerry was shuffled between areas under both men's command.

          As to what Elliott might or might not recall, he certainly had ample opportunity to review the records.  And he didn't mention the missing first page of a report with his signature on it at all, much less opine that it likely had something negative in it.  

          As to your little engine climbing that conspiracy track, once again, George Elliott never seemed to think the signature date on that Dec. '69 fitness report worth mentioning.  Why not?  If it wasn't some sort of typo (I know, impossible!) and he was "pressed to compose" some sort of replacement document long after he himself had left Vietnam (July '69), you'd think it would've stuck in his memory, wouldn't you?  At the very least, reviewing the documents would've refreshed his recollection...and as we know, he didn't hesitate to badmouth Kerry about everything else.

          But nope, not a word from the man who wrote and/or signed those reports.

          PS, of course that last report was written after Kerry left Vietnam.  It covered the period including his departure from An Thoi, remember? No, I don't suppose you do.

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    • Author by cyberaim (January 07, 2009 10:16 am ET)
         

      Here’s what Obama said. “You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. You can wrap an old fish in a piece of paper and call it change. It's still going to stink, after eight years. We've had enough of the same old thing."
       
      According to press reports, Obama has used the phrase previously in regard to President Bush’s Iraq policy, and McCain himself has used the phrase on several occasions -- once, when talking about Sen. Hillary Clinton’s health care plan, The Washington Post noted.

      No one was calling Palin a pig. The only people who thought so are the ones who want to accuse someone else of wrong doing for their own plight. Come on - call the right, or don't bother. Much "to do" about nothing.

      Hyper reactive reporting - also known as "I need to make money, so I need more conterversial events". let's all just make things up as well go, eh?

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    • Author by yountca9082 (January 07, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
         

      Undeniable truth of life (and fact):

      EVIDENCE REFUTES LIBERLISM.

      THE ONLY WAY LIBERALS WIN ELECTIONS IS TO PROVE THEY AREN'T LIBERALS. e.g. why do the rich white men in Washington deny a black man admittance into the Senate initially? Democrats have a club of rich white man syndrome. THey actually make more $$$ than Republican counterparts (which has been documented on Fox and (for you libs) on CNN. Who do they represent now? Oh yes, the uneducated and misinformed.

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