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IBD cited 1930s America, 1990s Japan as evidence that stimulus spending doesn't work, but economists disagree on both counts

January 05, 2009 12:39 pm ET
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SUMMARY: In criticizing a large-scale economic stimulus plan favored by President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats, an Investor's Business Daily editorial echoed other media by citing the New Deal and Japan's "lost decade" as purported evidence that stimulus spending is "the least effective way to give the economy a boost." However, according to prominent economists, economic conditions in 1930s America and 1990s Japan were improving following major increases in stimulus spending -- trends that were reversed only when the respective governments decided to cut spending and raise taxes in an attempt to reduce the deficit.

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In criticizing a large-scale economic stimulus plan favored by President-elect Barack Obama and congressional Democrats, a January 2 Investor's Business Daily editorial echoed other media by citing two historical examples -- the New Deal and Japan's "lost decade" -- as purported evidence that stimulus spending is "the least effective way to give the economy a boost." However, as Media Matters for America has noted, according to prominent economists, economic conditions in both 1930s America and 1990s Japan were improving following major increases in stimulus spending -- trends that were reversed only when the respective governments decided to cut spending and raise taxes in an attempt to reduce the deficit.

Criticizing the New Deal, IBD asserted:

In the 1930s, for instance, we went on an infrastructure binge, building new roads, dams and schools; electrifying the rural south and enlarging our ports, among other major tasks.

Granted, some infrastructure improvement was called for. But all that activity didn't pull the the [sic] country out of depression -- not by a long shot. Unemployment averaged 17% in the '30s, and it wasn't until 1941 -- the start of World War II -- that GDP returned to its 1929 level.

However, IBD's use of the average unemployment rate during the 1930s is misleading; historians and progressive economists have noted that unemployment fell from the time the New Deal was launched until 1937, when, according to Nobel laureate and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, President Franklin D. Roosevelt reversed course. In a November 10 Times column, Krugman wrote: "After winning a smashing election victory in 1936, the Roosevelt administration cut spending and raised taxes, precipitating an economic relapse that drove the unemployment rate back into double digits and led to a major defeat in the 1938 midterm elections."

Additionally, IBD's assertion that "[u]employment averaged 17% in the '30s" appears to be based on unemployment data that does not include government-relief employment created by New Deal programs. Indeed, former Wall Street Journal writer Amity Shlaes -- whose 2007 book, The Forgotten Man: A New History of the Great Depression, has been frequently cited by conservative media figures to dismiss the effectiveness of the New Deal -- acknowledged that her unemployment figures excluded "make-work jobs," instead relying on data compiled for the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) by economist Stanley Lebergott. In a November 29 Wall Street Journal column, Shlaes wrote, "To be sure, Michael Darby of UCLA has argued that make-work jobs should be counted. Even so, his chart shows that from 1931 to 1940, New Deal joblessness ranges as high as 16% (1934) but never gets below 9 percent" [emphasis in original]. After World War II, BLS ceased counting those in work-relief programs as unemployed, as noted by economist Gene Smiley in a 1983 Journal of Economic History article.

Of Japan's "lost decade," IBD wrote:

Japan followed the same Keynesian game plan after its real estate bust of 1989. To the applause of many American liberals, hundreds of trillions of yen were spent on infrastructure, raising outlays on big projects from 6.5% of GDP in 1990 to 8.3% in 1996 -- even more than contemplated under Obama's plan.

That didn't work either. The 1990s were a "lost decade" for Japan's economy, and the country is still stagnating. Its infrastructure boom did have one lasting legacy, however: Japan is now the most heavily indebted nation in the OECD.

However, contrary to IBD's assertion that stimulus spending "didn't work" in Japan, Adam Posen, deputy director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, wrote in his September 1998 book, Restoring Japan's Economic Growth, that "the 1995 stimulus package ... did result in solid growth in 1996, demonstrating that fiscal policy does work when it is tried. As on earlier occasions in the 1990s, however, the positive response to fiscal stimulus was undercut by fiscal contraction in 1996 and 1997." Other economists and media figures agree with Posen that the positive effects of the mid-decade stimulus packages in Japan were curtailed by attempts to scale back spending and increase sales taxes, as Media Matters has noted. Krugman, for one, points to Japan's fiscal stimulus packages as having "probably prevented a weak economy from plunging into an actual depression."

From IBD's January 2 editorial, "For Real Stimulus":

The massive new spending program that is being pushed by congressional Democrats emboldened by their newly enhanced majorities may come up as soon as Tuesday, when they return from their holiday breaks.

Unfortunately, they've picked the least effective way to give the economy a boost. Those who argue for hundreds of billions of dollars for infrastructure projects and "green jobs" have it all wrong. We've tried those remedies before and found them wanting.

In the 1930s, for instance, we went on an infrastructure binge, building new roads, dams and schools; electrifying the rural south and enlarging our ports, among other major tasks.

Granted, some infrastructure improvement was called for. But all that activity didn't pull the the [sic] country out of depression -- not by a long shot. Unemployment averaged 17% in the '30s, and it wasn't until 1941 -- the start of World War II -- that GDP returned to its 1929 level.

Japan followed the same Keynesian game plan after its real estate bust of 1989. To the applause of many American liberals, hundreds of trillions of yen were spent on infrastructure, raising outlays on big projects from 6.5% of GDP in 1990 to 8.3% in 1996 -- even more than contemplated under Obama's plan.

That didn't work either. The 1990s were a "lost decade" for Japan's economy, and the country is still stagnating. Its infrastructure boom did have one lasting legacy, however: Japan is now the most heavily indebted nation in the OECD.

If President Obama and his fellow Democrats get their way, the U.S. may soon be trudging down the same path. Next year, reckons budget expert Stan Collender, the deficit may hit $1.3 trillion, or 8% of GDP, as Congress tries to spend its way out of recession. That's roughly $13,000 for every taxpayer.

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    • Author by roundhouse (January 05, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
         

      Of course the conservative right is going to lie about New Deal economics. They're obsessed with power. They lust for total control, to the point that they would block any common sense solutions, to the detriment of all of us, just to cast blame on Progressives and regain power on the heels of their block and blame offensive.

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      • Author by bruce1ace (January 05, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
           

        When Republicans run huge deficits, it's irresponsible and immoral to burden future generations with our greed.

        When Democrats run huge deficits, it's a "common sense" solution.

        Let's get real.  Saying a "stimulus package" was working until it was stopped is a bit self evident.  The only alternative is to continue the stimulus indefinitely.

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        • Author by roundhouse (January 05, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
             

          Yes let's get real. When con jobs run huge deficits they are merely transferring our national wealth to the upper crust with their privatization schemes: huge military budgets for private contractors and sweetheart tax deals for private industries who ship work overseas. You know, typical trickle down garbage.

          And stop your lying bullsh*t. Obviously, continued spending is not the only alternative. If it were, we would have continued the New Deal indefinitely. In your thick headed conservative delusions, the finer point you missed was that, a return to ignorant, corporate conservative Hoover economics, in the middle of recovery only succeeded in prolonging the national misery.

          In contrast to the the nonsense Republicans provide, this plan is bout is getting the economy going through full employment, jump-starting the economy from the bottom up. And yes, that is common sense.

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          • Author by dexteritas0071418 (January 05, 2009 2:25 pm ET)
               

            What parts of the new deal aren't in effect today?

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          • Author by bruce1ace (January 05, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
               

            According to the summary, the trend was reversed when governments cut spending and increased taxes in an attempt to balance the budget.  You're telling me that this is corporate conservative Hoover economics?

            You either need to double your medication or cut it in half.  It's only January 5, you better pace yourself.

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            • Author by roundhouse (January 06, 2009 4:02 am ET)
                 

              What are you stupid? In their haste to gloss over the effectiveness of investment in the commons, is the CATO institute also lying to me when they state, "President Herbert Hoover's response was to push for a major tax increase. The Revenue Act of 1932 raised tax rates across the board, with the top rate rising from 25 percent to 63 percent."

              Add that to "according to Nobel laureate and New York Timescolumnist Paul Krugman, President Franklin D. Roosevelt reversed course. In a November 10 Times column, Krugman wrote: "After winning a smashing election victory in 1936, the Roosevelt administration cut spending and raised taxes, precipitating an economic relapse that drove the unemployment rate back into double digits and led to a major defeat in the 1938 midterm elections."

              Are you still going to tell me that I am wrong in casting Hoover's actions as corporate conservative Hoover economics? Your problem, my smug Republican friend, is that when it comes to economics, you believe all this, hannity-limbaugh bullsh*it about tax and spend liberals. Get over it.

              Accept the fact that Republicans only function in government is to protect the interests of the wealthy elite by writing laws that perpetuate the heinous, and historically high, rates of inequality in our country. Republicans are total frauds. You should be embarrassed that you ever voted Republican.

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              • Author by bruce1ace (January 06, 2009 8:38 am ET)
                   

                I apologize.  Raising the tax rates on the wealthy from 25% to 63% didn't sound like a conservative idea to me but clearly that's what Hoover did.  With terrible results, not surprisingly.

                I'm encouraged that Obama is not going to go that route in this case, although I know that liberals were hoping for a repeal of the Bush tax cuts sooner rather than later despite the current state of the economy.

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    • Author by shaggles (January 05, 2009 1:17 pm ET)
         

      Conservatives love to rewrite history.  That's why they keep saying history will be kind to Dubya.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 05, 2009 2:28 pm ET)
           

        I heard some Talk Radio Troglodyte last night, harping about the New Deal and WWII.  He said that if WWII stimulated the economy and ended the Depression, then W's Iraq money pit must have stimulated the economy, too.  I think he was trying to prove that any form of Government spending would not help, but his logic was so convoluted that I'm not sure.

        The problem with this comparison is that WWII and the Iraq War are not similar at all.  WWII saw a total mobilization of our workforce, massive manufacturing of munitions and other supplies.  Factories ran 24/7 turning out planes, tanks and bombs.   No such mobilization has occurred for Bush's Iraq Adventure.

         Plus, I don't think the rich got a big tax break during WWII, did they?

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        • Author by mescal (January 05, 2009 7:47 pm ET)
             

          "Plus, I don't think the rich got a big tax break during WWII, did they?" - nerzog

          No, they did not.

          Only insanely greedy neocon predators cut taxes during war time.

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        • Author by ufleirx (January 05, 2009 9:03 pm ET)
             

          That's what happens when you allow corporatists (read Neo-cons, elements of the Democrats, and corporate American) to sell off the countries manufacturing. How can there be a manufacturing boom if the country is no longer a manufacturing centered economy? It is a pocket liner for the rich at that point and nothing more and hey we gave the mega-rich a tax break also -- isn't the current adminstration generous? It's great asking leading questions like FOX -- padding my resume I am wondering if FOX can use a token Dem. now that Colmes is gone? Another leading question man I am good.

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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 05, 2009 1:24 pm ET)
         

      My brother-in-law was lamenting (in a discussion over the holdiay) that PE Obama would try to fix things with "liberal spedning, etc..." which he [my BiL] couldn't understand because "it's been proven not to work so many times in every society that's ever tried it."  I really wish these people would take an economics course before they form opinions on economics.  I didn't bother correcting him.  Not worth it - I still had to "live there" for a while. 

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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (January 05, 2009 2:24 pm ET)
         

      This is all crap partisan politics vs. scientific economics. Of course things will improve marginally if you dump money into the banks and hire a ton of people..but is that the best way to improve things long-term? And, since we DIDNT take the conservative's route in the 1930's, how do they KNOW theirs would work better? And, anyone who knows anything about Japan knows that the Japanese gov for decades has poured billions into public works projects because pork is the best way to stay in power in Japan...so OF COURSE the marginal return on gov spending during a deflationary period won't be that great.

      Nobody REALLY knows, so how about we get some better journalism than hypothetical spewage.

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    • Author by copiousdissent.blogspot.com (January 05, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
         

      Great you found one loony economist who thought was Japan did worked.

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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 05, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, that "loony" Nobel Prize in economics winner Paul Krugman.  WTF does he know?

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      • Author by snoopy (January 05, 2009 6:36 pm ET)
           

        still trolling for someone, anyone, to go to your pathetic lil poop patch I see...

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