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Coulter claimed a reportedly "fairly typical" vote shift proves MN Senate election is being "openly stolen"

January 06, 2009 5:39 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Ann Coulter asserted that "the inestimable economist" John Lott Jr. has said the "500 corrections" made to unofficial Senate election returns prior to the beginning of the recount is a "statistical impossibility." In fact, Lott -- a discredited research scholar -- wrote in a FoxNews.com column that the "sizes of the errors" in some Minnesota precincts which led to the 504-vote correction were "surprisingly large," but did not claim they were statistically impossible. Further, an election analysis by Minnesota Public Radio has shown that changes in vote totals of up to 1,000 votes after polls close are "fairly typical in Minnesota."

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Claiming the U.S. Senate race in Minnesota is "being openly stolen in front of our faces," author and syndicated columnist Ann Coulter asserted on the January 6 edition of Fox & Friends that "the inestimable economist" John Lott Jr. has said the "500 corrections" made to unofficial Senate election returns prior to the beginning of the recount is a "statistical impossibility." In fact, in a November 10 column on FoxNews.com, Lott -- a discredited senior research scholar at the University of Maryland -- wrote that the "sizes of the errors" in some Minnesota precincts that led to the 504-vote correction were "surprisingly large," but did not claim they were statistically impossible. Further, an election analysis by Minnesota Public Radio has shown that changes in vote totals of up to 1,000 votes after polls close are "fairly typical in Minnesota."

During the broadcast, Coulter stated, "The morning after the election, Coleman was ahead by 725 votes. And suddenly, two counties in Democratic areas 'discover' more corrections benefiting Al Franken than for any other election in the state." After co-host Gretchen Carlson said, "Well, I'm not so sure that [incumbent Republican Norm] Coleman didn't do anything about that, and [Minnesota Gov. Tim] Pawlenty's in a tough position because if he doesn't say that his state is run well, he is in fact the governor, so--," Coulter added, "Well, when 500 corrections, which John Lott, the inestimable economist, has said is a statistical impossibility -- I mean, for every other election -- ."

Contrary to Coulter's suggestion that the correction of 504 votes made after Election Day was evidence the election had been "stolen," Minnesota Public Radio reported on November 13, "A look at elections in the last 10 years shows that the vote totals typically change by about 1,500 votes in statewide elections in the days after the polls close":

Even the 1,200-vote lead Norm Coleman had at one point in this election might seem comfortable by now. Since the day after the Nov. 4 election, the first-term senator's margin of victory over his DFL rival Al Franken has fallen to just 206 votes.

But an analysis of election returns by Minnesota Public Radio shows a change of 1,000 votes is fairly typical in Minnesota. A look at elections in the last 10 years shows that the vote totals typically change by about 1,500 votes in statewide elections in the days after the polls close.

That average post-election change falls to just over a thousand if you don't count the 2002 U.S. Senate race. That election happened on separate, hand counted ballots that were handed out after the death of incumbent Paul Wellstone.

Coulter previously called the corrections "statistically impossible" in a December 5 column, in which she similarly cited "the inestimable economist John Lott":

In all, Franken picked up 459 votes and Coleman lost 60 votes from these alleged "corrections."

As the inestimable economist John Lott pointed out, the "corrections" in the Senate race generated more new votes for Franken than all the votes added by corrections in every race in the entire state -- presidential, congressional, state house, sanitation commissioner and dogcatcher -- combined.

And yet the left-wing, George Soros-backed secretary of state, Mark Ritchie, stoutly defended the statistically impossible "corrected" votes. There's something fishy going on in Minnesota besides the annual bigmouth bass tournament.

However, Lott's November 10 assertion that "the 504 total new votes for Franken from all the precincts is greater than adding together all the changes for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, and state house races combined," which was cited in a November 12 Wall Street Journal editorial, have been disputed by Star Tribune editor for computer-assisted reporting Glenn Howatt, who wrote: "Based on my analysis, this is wrong. I compared the precinct results for the presidential and the senate races. There are more corrections in the Obama race and the net result is bigger."

Media Matters for America previously noted that on the same day the Minnesota Canvassing Board certified the results of the November 4 election, both nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh and Fox News contributor Dick Morris baselessly claimed Franken stole the election.

From the January 6 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): Ann, let's talk about what you did talk about, right in Gretchen's home -- former home --

STEVE DOOCY (co-host): State.

KILMEADE: -- of Minnesota. Al Franken's about to win. He's got a 225-vote advantage. He was once trailing by 700 votes. What happened there?

COULTER: Right. What always happens. Unless a Republican wins an election by at least 1,000 votes, by an astounding majority, Democrats will cheat and steal, and this is exactly what happened in the gubernatorial election in Washington state -- I think it was in 2004. I've been writing about this over and over again. Bits and pieces here and there -- 100 votes here, 200 votes there, 46 votes. And each one is a theft, and the Republicans just sit back and watch it happen.

KILMEADE: Governor Pawlenty has not said a word --

COULTER: Oh yeah. Well, at the beginning when I was hysterically writing about this -- "they're stealing it, they're stealing it, they're stealing it" -- Pawlenty was on TV saying "No, everything is under control." Well, OK, it's been stolen. Congratulations, Republicans.

GRETCHEN CARLSON (co-host): Well, now Coleman's going to fight this in the courts, so what are his chances there?

COULTER: Well, it should have been fought all along. It should have been fought -- the morning after the election, Coleman was ahead by 725 votes. And suddenly, two counties in Democratic areas "discover" more corrections benefiting Al Franken than for any other election in the state.

DOOCY: Mm-hmm. Coincidence.

CARLSON: Well, I'm not so sure that Coleman didn't do anything about that, and Pawlenty's in a tough position because if he doesn't say that his state is run well, he is in fact the governor, so --

COULTER: Well, when 500 corrections, which John Lott, the inestimable economist, has said is a statistical impossibility -- I mean, for every other election --

CARLSON: Right, but who are the people in charge of the canvassing board and that sort of thing? If they're Democrats, then you would expect it to go towards Al Franken.

COULTER: Well, OK, but you shouldn't have Republicans saying, "Oh, yes, everything's fine," when it's being openly stolen in front of our faces.

CARLSON: Right.

DOOCY: Crazy.

COULTER: But that's the problem as I describe in the book with conservatives. They don't fight back, they believe -- I mean, the way the liberal victimization always works is it's such a lovely country. Americans are so charitable, shockingly charitable, that they're -- you know, when they see the crocodile tears of the left, they just collapse and, "Oh, OK, you're a victim, whatever you want, here."

DOOCY: Here's the brand new book, it is called Guilty: Liberal "Victims" and Their Assault on America.

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    • Author by tommy (January 06, 2009 5:44 pm ET)
         

      I love American politics.

      In 2000 it was the left who was crying about stolen elections, blah blah blah.  Now it's the right crying about the same thing.

      Do they all really think we are that stupid? It isn't about any of that, it's all about winning.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 06, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
           

        blah blah blah...

        Yeah, all that uproar about the Supreme Court installing a president is just crying and blah, blah, blah.  You have a very backwards view of democracy.  (No smiley face).

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      • Author by Victor Colorado (January 06, 2009 7:02 pm ET)
           

        stolen elections, blah blah blah...


        Too many dead Iraqi civilians to count.

        stolen elections, blah blah blah...


        Sorry it's all so boring to you, Tommy.  Maybe that guy you voted for in 2000 can cook up some more civilian casualties to cheer you up before he leaves office.


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      • Author by fawltylogic (January 06, 2009 8:52 pm ET)
           

        I don't know if you're deliberately trying to do your part to rewrite history or not, but the 2000 recount is not like the MN recount - the 2000 recount was never allowed to finish, remember? THAT is why it is not unreasonable to claim it was a "stolen" election.

        The MN recount has as far as I can tell followed the rules and been allowed to finish.

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      • Author by MiddleLeft (January 07, 2009 8:52 am ET)
           

        Do they all really think we are that stupid?

        YES.

        What is really stupid is Republicans claiming the election is being stolen "right in front of our eyes"..... yet half the election judges and vote counters are republicans. If it's true, why can't they see it and stop this "theft"?  Democrats didn't have that option eight years ago.

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    • Author by Marker (January 06, 2009 6:18 pm ET)
         

      Just a typical whiny repug who lost. Bush stole the election from Gore, Franken didn't steal anything.  Repugs are flawed human beings, probably from birth, at least Coulter is.

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      • Author by snoopy (January 06, 2009 7:13 pm ET)
           

        She's a real clint eastwood in drag, isn't she?

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        • Author by Marker (January 06, 2009 7:50 pm ET)
             

          True, with a much bigger adams apple.

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          • Author by djasper2761 (January 07, 2009 9:04 pm ET)
               

            coulter is really Marilyn Manson. I have NEVER seen them together. nillybob o'really is all tore-up about Franken. Last nite he said it was depressing while shaking his head. Priceless!!!!

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    • Author by MoonbatYouBet (January 06, 2009 6:29 pm ET)
         
      "COULTER: But that's the problem as I describe in the book with conservatives. They don't fight back" Ok, I officially apologize now for ever thinking that Coulter was incapable of being funny. Oh. She wasn't kidding? Nevermind.
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      • Author by mary59 (January 06, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
           

        Oh, those little Wing-Nut People:

        They got little hands
        Little eyes
        They walk around
        Tellin great big lies
        They got little noses
        And tiny little teeth
        They wear platform shoes
        On their nasty little feet

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        • Author by MoonbatYouBet (January 06, 2009 6:39 pm ET)
             

          Hey now!  As a vertically challenged American, Randy Newman scarred my childhood!  That's the merciless victimization I was subject to that made me become a liberal so my secret fascist fantasies to control the world would someday come true.  :)

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          • Author by mary59 (January 06, 2009 6:46 pm ET)
               

            Much rather have your rule, Moonbat, than the short little thinker GW & pals.

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          • Author by worrierking (January 06, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
               

            Sorry but I couldn't have lived to the age of 59 without Randy. Like Mark Twain before him, he's held a mirror up to America and forced us to confront who we really are.

            How would you like to have been a 6' 3" eighth grade basketball player who was taken out of a close game and replaced with a 5' kid? 

            We've got to work to end the victimization of the short and the tall. 

            But I refuse to give up my dislike of thin people. Or if you're reading this Colonel, the elderly too.

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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 06, 2009 7:09 pm ET)
                 

              HATEFUL AGEIST !!!

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              • Author by worrierking (January 06, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
                   

                That's me. I made a resolution to try to ride my equine of emnity every day.

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                • Author by djasper2761 (January 07, 2009 9:11 pm ET)
                     

                  just because coulter can dodge rain drops and look thru a key hole with both eyes, does not make her thin. She is, however, shameless

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              • Author by eweston8542983 (January 06, 2009 7:25 pm ET)
                   

                Gosherhutie!?

                Someone tell the FBY! Oops they're to busy lookin fer teerorists and stuff. The J.D., nah they're all working on resumes.

                That leaves....RNC, I guess, as the only legitmate authority in the the land of the free and homer of the Braves.

                %~P

                Mad am I? Well I suppose so, but I'm NOT INSANE! You betcha!

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    • Author by snoopy (January 06, 2009 7:20 pm ET)
         
      Isn't it typical? whenever you count all the votes the election is being openly stolen. Next time let's have everyone dip their finger in purple ink. republicans get off on that kind of showmanship (though they'll still be whining about the election being stolen from them).
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      • Author by peebs755 (January 06, 2009 8:31 pm ET)
           

        I know I was thinking that as well. In 2000 they STOPPED THE VOTE COUNTS. Didn't count all the votes. The right said "get over it".  In Franken's case they DID count all the votes, and the right is crying foul. So I guess for the right, inaccurate is fair, accurate is unfair.

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      • Author by Cheney2012 (January 06, 2009 10:53 pm ET)
           

        'Next time let's have everyone dip their finger in purple ink"

        Good idea except CORRUPT Secretaries of State will interpret that policy to mean Democrats get to vote 10 times.  And you and the left-wing airheads in the media will have no problem with it.

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        • Author by mary59 (January 06, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
             

          Wow!  Brilliant commentary there.  You DO feel persecuted, don't you? 

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    • Author by BillJ-MN (January 06, 2009 9:37 pm ET)
         
      In 2002 the adjustments made to the election night totals added thousands to Coleman's total. The average adjustment in a Minnesota statewide race is over a thousand. The adjustments to this race not only weren't "surprisingly large," they were surprisingly small. In statewide elections the margins of victory are usually large enough that even a 1,500 vote swing has no effect on the end result. http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2008/11/11/shifting_vote_totals_not_unusual/
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    • Author by Cheney2012 (January 06, 2009 10:59 pm ET)
         
      John Lott is a 'discredited research scholar' Why? Because Media Matters said so? Because he 'suggested' a relationship between the lifing of the assault weapons ban and a drop in the murder rate? But we're supposed to take the word of Minnesota Public Radio? Did Garrison Keillor commission that study? Media Matters wouldn't know the first thing about research and scholarly work. They are a bunch of elitist, politcal hacks bought and paid for by George Soros and the Clintons.
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      • Author by robotchubby (January 06, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
           

        BlagoBoy, go listen to a audio stream of Rush Limbaugh and leave the adults alone.

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      • Author by mary59 (January 06, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
           

        I also heard that Media Matters is run by a bunch of Frenchmen.  And like you, I don't have to prove it.  That's 'cause as a discredited research scholar, I'm immune.  

        But I'm hoping to get a grant from Hillary and George S. to prove that people who own more than 40 assault weapons have a brain disorder.  Wasn't Lott the guy that pretended to be a woman who gushed about how great Lott was in blog posts?

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      • Author by MiddleLeft (January 07, 2009 9:16 am ET)
           

        John Lott is a 'discredited research scholar' Why? Because Media Matters said so?

        Here is a summary for you.

        http://timlambert.org/lott/

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 07, 2009 1:09 pm ET)
           

        You're new here, aren't you?  Your attacks are, however, trite and ridiculous.  We've heard them before.  You bring little to the table with your petty banter.  Besides - ad hominen does not change what's true and what's not.

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    • Author by johnrlott4408 (January 06, 2009 11:08 pm ET)
         

      Here was my response to the Star Tribune editorial that Media Matters cites to attack my work.

      Last week, using the vote totals from Sunday, Nov. 9, I pointed out that Franken’s net gain washuge -- “new votes for Franken from all the precincts is greater than adding together all the changes for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, and state house races combined.” One “precinct’s corrections accounted for a significantly larger net swing in votes between the parties than occurred for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, or state house races.”

      Minnesota’s leading newspaper, the Star Tribune, ran a story by Eric Ringham evaluating my numbers. Glenn Howatt, their editor for computer-assisted reporting, was quoted as saying, “[Lott’s] numbers are simply wrong.” He went on to say, “I don’t know what statistical calculation Lott was using, but Obama clearly got more from the corrections.”

      Franken’s campaign has pointed to Ringham’s piece to defend the “typo” correction process. Other pieces at the Star Tribune attacked the “GOP bobos, starting with Fox News and some conservative columnists like John Lott.” Media outlets such as Salon.com have reiterated the newspaper's claims.

      The Star Tribune argued that Obama’s net gain was 1,121votes -- much bigger than Franken’s, and thus evidence that nothing unusual had occurred in Franken’s race.

      So what accounts for the different claims? While my work looked at the impact of correcting typos, the Star Tribune primarily relied on something quite different -- two precincts didn’t report the presidential votes for their districts until Nov. 5, the morning after the election.

      For example, precinct Richfield W-3 P-01 went from 0 to 908 votes for Obama. For McCain, it went from 0 to 474. This was not an incorrect number that was entered and later corrected, but simply the result of no numbers having been entered for either Obama or McCain or any other presidential candidate until Wednesday morning.

      In precinct Alexandria W-1 P-2, the Obama vote count went from 0 to 107. That precinct also had shown zero votes for Obama, McCain and all the other presidential candidates. So, again, it is clear that the precinct had not yet reported its totals for the presidential race.

      What is the difference between these two precincts and all the other 4,128 precincts in the state? These two precincts reported their numbers a couple of hours late.

      FOX News contacted the auditor of Douglass county, where the Alexandria precinct is located. The auditor said that they had tried to send the presidential results, but there had been a network malfunction and so the numbers were not sent until Wednesday morning. The auditor thought this change was very different from those that other counties had in correcting typos.

      Looking at the precincts that had entered in a number and then changed it between Wednesday, Nov. 5, and Monday, Nov. 10, Obama picked up 106 votes. Adding together the changes for Richfield (908), Alexandria (107), and the corrected typos (106) yields 1,121 votes, exactly the number that the Star Tribune reported.

      The fact that correcting typos increased Franken’s count by 459 votes (not counting Coleman’s lost votes) and Obama’s by 106 doesn’t prove fraud. Indeed, the Star Tribune might still be right in its claims that election officials made mistakes because they were tired.

      But my point was a simple one: Why did the “typo” corrections increase Franken’s total so much more than any other candidate’s? Indeed, so much more than all the other races for the presidency, Congress, and statehouse combined. The Star Tribune’s response was to deny the claim was true.

      Unfortunately, neither Eric Ringham at the Star Tribune nor Joe Conason at Salon.com has agreed to run corrections for their pieces. Presumably, the people at the Star Tribune just hadn’t looked at their data set to see that no numbers had been recorded in those two precincts before they ran their numbers. Yet, if these newspapermen really couldn’t figure out why our numbers were so different, why didn’t they try contacting me before they published their articles?

      With Democrats officially picking up Alaska’s Senate seat Tuesday, the anger will only increase. Democrats are only two seats away from a filibuster-proof Senate, which will enable them to completely ignore Republicans in Congress. And, with races in Georgia and Minnesota still undecided, they have a shot at winning those two seats.

      Yet, however heated the race becomes, the most important thing is that the media get the facts right.

      A version of this was also republished in the Star Tribune itself.

      http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentary/34901529.html?elr=KArksc8P:Pc:U0ckkD:aEyKUiacyKUnciaec8O7EyU

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      • Author by MiddleLeft (January 07, 2009 9:06 am ET)
           

        With Democrats officially picking up Alaska’s Senate seat Tuesday, the anger will only increase. Democrats are only two seats away from a filibuster-proof Senate, which will enable them to completely ignore Republicans in Congress.

        Why does this have any bearing on the issue?  That condition is perfectly legal and acceptable under our democracy.  Should we subvert the legal process because some don't like the results?  Adfter 8 years of causing more damge to this country than anyone could imagine, I'd like the republicans to be shut out for a time.  Let them fume in the corner with a dunce hat.  They will filibuster everything, even things good for the country because they don't want democrats to suceed. They will sacrifice the country for their ideals.

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      • Author by mary59 (January 07, 2009 9:18 am ET)
           

        So to sum up your post, you say from the date that Franken had a larger number of votes added to his total than any other candidate did after recounting and correcting errors.  And this, despite your "suspicions", doesn't prove anything.  (I'll leave it to Minnesota residents that post here to go over your claims about the data.)

        Too bad you are just making insinuations and promoting division and fear, as usual.  It's a sorry thing that you're using your intelligence to be a right-wing hack.

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        • Author by djasper2761 (January 07, 2009 9:34 pm ET)
             

          hey mary, coleman and coulter are the same people. coleman wears makeup though. I personally don't care how Franken won. Yhis one is in the bank and it is so much fun to watch and listen to the right wingers letting off gas. billybob o'really is beside himself.

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          • Author by mary59 (January 07, 2009 11:08 pm ET)
               

            Yes, it is fun, isn't it?  O'reilly must be blowing some major fuses over this.

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      • Author by BillJ-MN (January 07, 2009 9:24 am ET)
           

        You were still playing with words and numbers to create an impression that was divorced from reality.  The fact is that if you examine each individual instance where numbers were adjusted there is nothing the least bit suspicious in any of them.  The fact that the majority of the adjustments went Franken's way is simply chance and would have been extremely unremarkable in a statewide contest with a more normal margin of victory.  As I indicated in my earlier post, the size of the adjustments from election night was actually much smaller than is normal in a statewide election.  This amplified the significance of what were actually fairly small adjustments.

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      • Author by eecee (January 08, 2009 5:57 am ET)
           

        Waiting to see you correct Ann Coulter for describing you as an "inestimable economists," Ms. Rosh, er Mr. Lott.

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    • Author by Blueneck (January 07, 2009 9:45 am ET)
         
      During the broadcast, Coulter stated, "The morning after the election, Coleman was ahead by 725 votes. And suddenly, two counties in Democratic areas 'discover' more corrections benefiting Al Franken than for any other election in the state." Show a little respect Annie. That would be Senator Al Franken. But it is very entertaining to watch a hateful bleached blonde anorexic bimbo screech like a banshee whenever her delicate sensibilites are offended by things like truth, logical coherance, or justice. These things must offend you to your very depths. So by all means, don't stand on ceremony--screech and wail away. You have the soul of a maggot--so display it proudly--where we all can see it. And please get yourself some treatment. I would guess that abnormalities will be found in the quantity of gray matter in the left frontal portion of your brain. On the other hnd it could be that your amygdala is just well, undersized. If so it may be only a matter of time before your anti-social tendencies show up in the form of violent behavior. Or perhaps it is both. But do yourself and the world a favor--get some help.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 07, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
         

      The only thing "fishy'' coing on here is ANTHRAX COULTERS  big fat lying mouth.

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      • Author by djasper2761 (January 07, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
           

        it was late at night and pitch black dark. I walked by a fish market and said: Hi coulter. coulter is no different than anone on faucks news. It is so much fun to listen to the pigs screech. Outragious BS all of it. The perpetuation of neocon nonsense will die hard for sure.

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 07, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
         

      The only truth COULTER knows is WINGNUT  truth.

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    • Author by Conchobhar (January 07, 2009 12:55 pm ET)
         

      John Lott wrote:

      "Democrats are only two seats away from a filibuster-proof Senate, which will enable them to completely ignore Republicans in Congress. And, with races in Georgia and Minnesota still undecided, they have a shot at winning those two seats."

      Where are John Bolton and his Bleached Brown Shirts, to intimidate the counters and stop the recount, when you need them, eh Johnny?

      Also, you might check your "facts" before posting.  Georgia is not still in play.  It went to Sleazy Saxby.


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    • Author by shaggles (January 07, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
         
      The 2004 Washington governors election was not stolen. There were 2 recounts and the Dem came out on top. Washington leans pretty strongly to the left so it was no surprise. The head election official was a Rep so it seems unlikely anything fishy happened there. The Rep candidate tried to steal the election by saying that it was impossible to know who won (which is funny because he was calling for his rival to concede after he won the first recount by a very slim margin) and there should be a new election. He even filed a lawsuit which he lost even though the judge was essentially hand picked by the Reps. The judge said that he made his ruling with the expectation that the Rep candidate would appeal. Instead the Rep candidate whined about how he couldn't get a fair hearing in this state and crawled back under a rock for 4 years. He ran again last year and got his butt whipped.
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      • Author by bozo525a6419 (January 09, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
           

        "There were 2 recounts and the Dem came out on top. Washington leans pretty strongly to the left so it was no surprise."

        Yep, no surprise at all.  Keep recounting until the Dem wins, then stop.  It is well understood how it works.  And we will continue to operate this way since Bush rooked us out of 2000.  How dare they stop us from recounting enough times until we got the win.  We won't make that mistake again.

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      • Author by bozo525a6419 (January 09, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
           

        "There were 2 recounts and the Dem came out on top. Washington leans pretty strongly to the left so it was no surprise."

        Yep, no surprise at all.  Keep recounting until the Dem wins, then stop.  It is well understood how it works.  And we will continue to operate this way since Bush rooked us out of 2000.  How dare they stop us from recounting enough times until we got the win.  We won't make that mistake again.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (January 07, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
         
      If the Democrats REALLY cheated in this election, all I can say is I'M OKAY WITH IT. Now let's get those cheaters into Alaska and Alabama so that we really can ignore the Republicans. Seems to be a slight bit of revenge, which I'M OKAY WITH. Goes to prove that cheaters do win sometimes.
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    • Author by eecee (January 08, 2009 5:53 am ET)
         

      I always liked the Darrell Hammond as Chris Matthews description of Coulter:

      "A kneecap with hair."

      http://snltranscripts.jt.org/03/03bhardball.phtml

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