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"Number One voice for conservatism" Rush Limbaugh wastes no time leading assault on Obama

January 28, 2009 8:34 am ET

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SUMMARY: With a Democrat back in the White House, Rush Limbaugh has wasted no time in hurling false and baseless attacks against President Obama, echoing his slanders and smears of President Clinton, his family, and his administration during the 1990s.

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During the 1990s, Rush Limbaugh became a Republican and right-wing darling by relentlessly slandering and smearing President Clinton, his family, and his administration. With a Democrat back in the White House, Limbaugh has wasted no time hurling false and baseless attacks against President Obama.

In his 1996 book Hot Air, Howard Kurtz reported that in 1989, shortly after he launched his nationally syndicated radio show, Limbaugh stated, "I'm not out to save the country. I'm out to get a large audience. I'm an entertainer first and a conservative second" [Page 229]. But, Kurtz wrote, the 1992 election "elevated Limbaugh to a loftier platform as talker-in-chief of the opposition party. He began to take himself, and his program, far more seriously. He was no longer merely an entertainer" [Pages 229-230].

Indeed, in 1992, following Clinton's election, according to National Review, Ronald Reagan sent Limbaugh a personal note thanking him for "all" he was "doing to promote Republican and conservative principles" and proclaiming him the "Number One voice for conservatism in our Country."

In the weeks and months that followed Clinton's election, Kurtz reported, Limbaugh began his programs "with a refrain about 'America held hostage' for whatever the number of days since Clinton moved into the White House" [Page 232]. Kurtz wrote that in May 1994, Clinton complained about "Rush Limbaugh and all this right-wing extremist media just pouring venom at us every day" [Page 232].

In its July 2008 profile of him, The New York Times Magazine stated that in 1994, Limbaugh "was so influential in the Republican Congressional landslide that the grateful winners made him an honorary member of the G.O.P. freshman class. He moved not only voters, but the party itself."

Recently, Limbaugh has garnered attention for his January 16 comment regarding Obama: "I hope he fails." And in a January 21 interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News, Limbaugh stated: "We are being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father was black, because this is the first black president."

During the 2008 presidential campaign, Limbaugh often invoked Obama's race in attacking him, from asserting that Obama's "only chance of winning is that he's black" to, at another time, claiming that Obama is "not black."

Limbaugh has reacted to the election and inauguration with more attacks on Obama and his policies. These attacks include accusing Obama of using and exaggerating the current economic crisis for political gain. Limbaugh has also echoed the myth -- repeated by media conservatives denouncing Obama's economic recovery plan -- that the New Deal prolonged the Great Depression. In addition, Limbaugh has repeatedly criticized Obama for his plan to close the detention facilities at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, asserting that Obama's intended action would endanger American lives, and repeating the falsehood that "it has been learned that 61 detainees" who have been released from Guantánamo have returned to terrorist activities.

In July 2008, The New York Times reported that Limbaugh signed a contract extension with his syndicator, Clear Channel Communications' Premiere Radio Networks, that would pay him "about $400 million to continue serving up his daily dose of conservative patter through 2016." If history and his comments about Obama to date are any indication, Limbaugh will continue his campaign of smears and falsehoods against the president and his administration. Media Matters has compiled several examples of Limbaugh's attacks:

Limbaugh on Obama: "I hope he fails"

During the broadcast of his January 16 show, Limbaugh noted that he was asked by "a major American print publication" to write 400 words on his "hope for the Obama presidency." Limbaugh responded to the request:

So I'm thinking of replying to the guy saying, "OK, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words. I need four: I hope he fails." Well, what are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. I mean, look at -- even my staff -- "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different? What's new? What is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it?

Limbaugh: "We are being told ... that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because this is the first black president."

In a January 21 interview with Sean Hannity, Limbaugh stated:

We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father was black, because this is the first black president.

Limbaugh attacks Obama economic recovery package as effort to "buy votes for the Democratic Party"

Following Obama's reported comments to Republican leaders that "[y]ou can't just listen to Rush Limbaugh and get things done," National Review White House correspondent Byron York asked Limbaugh for his response. According to York, Limbaugh responded:

To make the argument about me instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. Obama's plan would buy votes for the Democrat Party, in the same way FDR's New Deal established majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule, and it would also simultaneously seriously damage any hope of future tax cuts. It would allow a majority of American voters to guarantee no taxes for themselves going forward. It would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy. Put simply, I believe his stimulus is aimed at re-establishing "eternal" power for the Democrat Party rather than stimulating the economy because anyone with a brain knows this is NOT how you stimulate the economy. If I can be made to serve as a distraction, then there is that much less time debating the merits of this TRILLION dollar debacle.

Limbaugh made similar comments on the January 26 edition of his show:

Now, to make the argument about me, folks, instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. His plan, I think, is pretty much what FDR was trying to do back in the New Deal era. This is about establishing majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule. And it would also simultaneously damage any hope of future tax cuts. If Obama's version of the stimulus plan goes in, you can forget tax cuts. The deficits are going to be so huge and so numerous and so frequent that the argument for tax cuts in the standard manner can never be won.

His plan would also see to it that a majority of American voters would not pay income taxes, and therefore, a minority of people who would vote for tax cuts will always lose. His stimulus plan would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy, and I really think that what -- his stimulus plan is political. Just like these executive orders he signed last week on Guantánamo Bay and so forth. Those were not security-oriented; they were political.

His stimulus plan, likewise, is political. It is aimed at re-establishing eternal power for the Democrat [sic] Party, just as FDR did, rather than stimulating the economy. Folks, anybody with a brain knows that his stimulus plan is not how you stimulate the economy. And if he can make me a distraction, then there'd be all that much less time to debate this.

Limbaugh repeats myth that New Deal prolonged the Great Depression

Limbaugh has repeatedly advanced the myth that the New Deal prolonged the Great Depression. For example, during his November 20 broadcast, Limbaugh stated: "the New Deal did not fix the Great Depression; it made it worse. The New Deal prolonged it." As Media Matters has repeatedly noted, prominent economists have disputed this claim. Limbaugh added: "But in the process, FDR secured massive power for himself as well as his party. And Obama has indicated that his model is FDR."

Limbaugh asserts that layoffs are "casualties" of the "Obama war on prosperity"

During the January 27 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh referred to recent layoffs at major companies as "casualties" in the "Obama war on prosperity." Limbaugh stated:

Casualties are mounting across the United States. Home Depot announced that they are killing off 7,000. Sprint, killing off 8,000. Pfizer, killing off 8,000 more. Other companies, including Caterpillar, brought the total to 40,000 jobs killed in just one day.

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I wonder if the drive-by media will keep a running monthly tally of the Obama casualties in the same manner as they did war casualties under George W. Bush. Or if protesters will plant crosses on mock graves for every job killed under the Obama administration. Will we have people protesting the loss of American treasure? The loss of American jobs? Will we have people camping across the street from Obama's house in Chicago, as they camped across the street from Bush's place in Crawford? Forty thousand jobs killed in one day. The Obama administration tells us we're going to lose two million more this year even if he gets what he wants.

Now, for those of you who think this is an unfair question, perhaps an unfair analogy, let me remind you: We are talking about lives here. We are not talking about jets. We are not talking about bathroom refurbishing. We are talking about what was once entrepreneurial freedom that's being usurped. We're trying to take these incidents as teachable moments, to illustrate that what's happening here is nothing more than a giant usurpation of trillions of dollars of private-sector wealth transferred to the government and then parceled out by that government on the basis of who they think ought to have it. They will pick winners and losers. We're talking about 40,000 people's lives, in one day. Their identities, their dreams, their hopes, and their jobs. Casualties. And there is a war going on. These are casualties in war, and I'm going to tell you what the war is. This is the Obama war on prosperity -- 40,000 jobs dead in one day.

Limbaugh promotes myth of an "Obama Recession"

As Media Matters has noted, Limbaugh promoted the myth of an "Obama recession" on his show. During the November 6 broadcast of his program, Limbaugh said:

Speaking of Obama, by the way, the Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen. Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression. It's -- he hadn't done anything yet, but his ideas are killing the economy. His ideas are killing Wall Street. They need some certainty. And now everybody in the drive-bys -- we don't know who Obama is. We've got a story from Jennifer Loven at the Associated Press today -- we don't know who Obama is. All of a sudden now on Charlie Rose, they're starting to talk about his ties to Saul Alinsky.

Discussing economy, Limbaugh accuses Obama of "ramping up the crisis mentality"

On January 8, discussing a speech Obama gave that day on the economy, Limbaugh accused Obama of "ramping up the crisis mentality." Limbaugh added:

Recessions come out of their cycles in 24-month periods if you just leave them alone. Wait and see is what works. Recessions -- it's the average length of time for a recession in America. Depression is a different thing. ... I'm not suggesting benign neglect. I am suggesting that we have the undertaker in charge of the body before it's dead.

During the December 8 broadcast of his program, Limbaugh accused Obama of "stoking the fire of unrest." Limbaugh said:

And so you see, ladies and gentlemen, Obama wants nothing to do with whatever proposals are hammered out now. And, frankly, neither do the Democrats in Congress. They want to be able to hang as much of this on George Bush as they can, which means Chris Matthews and Dan Rather and Gwen Ifill -- sorry to disappoint you, but your President-elect does not want the job right now. Because he's not interested in fixing anything right now. He's comfortable with it getting worse right now, so that when he does take office in January, he'll have a smooth, clean, clear road in front of him to wave his magic wand and do whatever he wants.

And I think Chris and the rest of you better understand something. He's stoking the fire of unrest. He is turning up the heat on the notion of crisis. It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.

Limbaugh downplays the economic crisis and the need for stimulus spending

Limbaugh has also downplayed the economic crisis and the need for stimulus spending to an audience member who called in to tell Limbaugh of her own personal economic troubles. As Media Matters noted, Limbaugh responded the caller's account of her own economic troubles as a homeowner and a small business owner on his January 21 broadcast by stating, "Well, you might want to consult history." He went on to add that "[i]t was much worse than this 26 years ago, Ronald Reagan's second year" and that back then, "the country came around with policies that got government out of the way, that lowered business and personal income taxes."

Later in the January 21 broadcast, Limbaugh referred back to the caller and stated:

Now, it strikes me as sad in a way because honest, folks, if I -- if I were hurting like Marie in Discovery Bay, and about to lose my business -- and by the way, I've been broke twice in my life. I've described the circumstances. I wouldn't be sitting around waiting for somebody to tell me what I should do, wouldn't be sitting around waiting for somebody in Washington to come up with a plan that's going to start getting people to spend money. And I -- it's just something that I cannot relate to. I would be doing everything I could to make money. If that meant a different line of work, so be it. But that may sound harsh to people in today's America, because we live in an age where a great economy with burgeoning opportunity is something the American people expect. And when it's not there on a cyclical basis, then a crisis ensues. And I think poor Marie has been subjected to how many years of media attempts to create a crisis mentality where the economy is concerned. For five years, at least, the media's been trying to convince every one of you that we're already in a recession, and now, they're trying to convince you we are in a depression, that it is worse than the Great Depression, and it isn't.

We haven't even gotten close to how bad it was in the 1970s. We haven't gotten close to the recession in 1982. Yet this willingness to -- I mean, she started her own business at some point, but now she's willing to put aside whatever she did at that time to start the business and sit around and hope that there will be some change come down the pike because of a change in occupants in the White House.

Limbaugh suggests Obama to blame for layoffs

On January 12, Limbaugh said, "I want to talk for a moment to those of you who are out of work." In his subsequent comments, Limbaugh stated: "there are two kinds of people that are out of work: those who want to start working soon, and those who are content to live on extended unemployment benefits. I'm primarily speaking to those of you who want to go back to work." Later, Limbaugh stated:

And it's sad that people are out of work, and it's sad they're being laid off, but it's also very sad that some of these layoffs are happening as a preventive measure not yet necessary because of the economic downturn. These are just smart people hedging the bets, and you're the bet. They're betting taxes are going to go up. They're betting it's going to cost more to have health care for employees. They're betting it's going to have more cost to give Medicare, and so -- whatever it is. And so, none of these businesses are bottomless pits of money.

So they're getting ready for the additional costs of doing business. And the most expensive cost of doing business is labor. And the fastest way to bring the budget in line is getting rid of people. Faster than getting rid of printers. Faster than getting rid of paper clips. Faster than getting rid of the coffee machine or charging for lunch in the cafeteria, or what have you.

Limbaugh on the post-election stock market drop

On the November 6, 2008, edition of his radio show, Limbaugh, referring to the stock market's performance after the results of the November 4 election, asserted: "So on Wednesday [November 5], the Dow drops about 486 points. It's down 346 points today. But of course, according to the drive-bys, these two events have nothing to do with each other. It's just a coincidence. The market's down today because of the jobless numbers. That's how the drive-bys see it. We have the largest market plunge after an election in history. Thank you, man-child Barack Obama." In fact, as Media Matters documented, analysts on Fox News and Fox Business Network cited reasons independent of the election to explain the fall in the market in the days following the election.

Limbaugh says stock market is "giving [Obama] a failing grade"

Reacting to Obama's January 8 economic speech, Limbaugh said on his show that day:

Now, when the speech began, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was at 50 -- down 50. As we speak now, ladies and gentlemen, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is down about 95. So it has fallen 45 points, yet the business community is behind this speech, behind the plan from the get-go.

Similarly, on the January 15 broadcast of his show, Limbaugh stated that "it's entirely fair to call this Obama's stock market because it's reacting to what Obama's plans are for the economy." He added: "Financial markets are a rough predictor of future economic performance, and based upon what the markets know of Obama's plans, it's giving him a failing grade."

Limbaugh on Obama and Guantánamo Bay

After President Obama signed an executive order requiring that the detention facilities at Guantánamo Bay be closed within a year, Limbaugh proclaimed on the January 22 broadcast of his program that he would have to change the design of his "Club Gitmo" line of merchandise (Rush 24/7 membership required), and promised to add the phrase "When America was Safe" to future merchandise.

During the January 15 broadcast of his program, Limbaugh falsely claimed that "it has been learned that 61 detainees who were released from 'Club Gitmo' have returned to commit terrorist acts." In fact, as Media Matters has documented, the Pentagon said it has confirmed that 18 Guantánamo detainees -- not 61 -- have "return[ed] to the fight," and experts have challenged even the lower figure.

Limbaugh still using doctored clip as evidence that media is still "trying to figure out who Obama is"

Limbaugh has repeatedly aired badly doctored audio from the October 30, 2008, edition of PBS' Charlie Rose in which, Limbaugh claims, Rose and his guest, NBC Meet the Press host Tom Brokaw, were "trying to figure out who Obama is."

Among other things, the audio montage -- which consists of multiple out-of-context statements cobbled together from different parts of the interview -- falsely suggests that Brokaw expressed the view of Obama that "there's a lot about him we don't know," when, in fact, Brokaw attributed that assertion to "conservative commentators." Also, Limbaugh's audio falsely suggests that comments Brokaw and Rose made about their lack of familiarity with the candidates applied only to Obama when, in fact, they were referring to both Obama and his opponent, Sen. John McCain.

On January 22, after playing the clip again, Limbaugh asserted: "See, they didn't vet on purpose. They didn't want to know these things before the election. They didn't want to know the answers themselves."

From the January 16 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I got a request here, from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush, For the Obama immaculate inauguration, we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night. That would be ideal."

Now, see here -- we're caught in this trap again. The premise is what is your hope for the -- my hope, and please understand me when I say this: I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance."

Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated, the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year and a half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed. If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him.

I don't want -- look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the U.S. government as possible. From the banking business to the mortgage industry to the automobile business to the healthcare -- I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work.

So I'm thinking of replying to the guy saying, "OK, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words. I need four: I hope he fails." Well, what are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. I mean, look at -- even my staff -- "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different? What's new? What is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it?

From the January 21 broadcast of Fox News' Hannity:

LIMBAUGH: They wanted him elected because they wanted to reassert their power -- the media here -- in being able to sway public opinion to the result that they wanted. So it didn't -- they were going to cover up the Jeremiah Wright, all these things that give indication of radicalism in Obama -- cover that up, portray him as he wants to be portrayed, somebody who's not to be questioned, somebody who's not to be doubted, we're just supposed to accept and trust because most of these guys came alive and came of age in the civil rights battles of the '60s. It defines who they are. They've trained the young drive-bys to look at events through the same prism. You know, racism in this country is the exclusive province of the left. We're witnessing racism all this week that led up to the inauguration. We are being told that we have to hope he succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend over forward, backward, whichever, because his father was black, because this is the first black president. We -- we've got to accept this.

The racism that everybody thinks exists on our side of the aisle has been on full display throughout their primary campaign. So I think they've done a great job, the media has, of covering up his deficiencies. They -- he's too big to fail, and so whatever goes wrong, blame it on Bush, blame it on -- I mean, MSNBC's new life will be criticizing you and me because they can't criticize him.

From the January 26 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Now, to make the argument about me, folks, instead of his plan makes sense from his perspective. His plan, I think, is pretty much what FDR was trying to do back in the New Deal era. This is about establishing majority power for 50 years of Democrat rule. And it would also simultaneously damage any hope of future tax cuts. If Obama's version of the stimulus plan goes in, you can forget tax cuts. The deficits are going to be so huge and so numerous and so frequent that the argument for tax cuts in the standard manner can never be won.

His plan would also see to it that a majority of American voters would not pay income taxes, and therefore, a minority of people who would vote for tax cuts will always lose. His stimulus plan would burden the private sector and put the public sector in permanent and firm control of the economy, and I really think that what -- his stimulus plan is political. Just like these executive orders he signed last week on Guantánamo Bay and so forth. Those were not security-oriented; they were political.

His stimulus plan, likewise, is political. It is aimed at re-establishing eternal power for the Democrat [sic] Party, just as FDR did, rather than stimulating the economy. Folks, anybody with a brain knows that his stimulus plan is not how you stimulate the economy. And if he can make me a distraction, then there'd be all that much less time to debate this.

From the January 27 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Let's talk about casualties for just a second. Casualties are mounting -- this matters. This isn't a jet. This isn't a redecorated bathroom. Casualties are mounting across the United States. Home Depot announced that they are killing off 7,000. Sprint, killing off 8,000. Pfizer, killing off 8,000 more. Other companies, including Caterpillar, brought the total to 40,000 jobs killed in just one day.

Now, sadly, the number of casualties is expected to rise with no end in sight. Economists are warning that we're just witnessing the tip of the iceberg here. By the end of this year, 10 percent of America's workforce could be unemployed. But that doesn't matter, does it, because we're not going to let Citi have their jet, and we're going to make sure we get the money back for the redecorated bathroom, right? Ten percent of America's workforce could be unemployed even if President Obama's trillion-dollar spending program is enacted. We're told that there will be a net loss of at least 2 million jobs more by the end of the year. Even if, folks, he gets all of his trillion dollars. Even with this dire forecast, our rapidly deteriorating labor market, our new President and our Democrat Congress are planning to kill even more jobs by demanding that automakers build green cars that nobody wants, by adopting draconian fuel standards to appease radical environmentalists. At the local level, liberal state governments from California to New York to New Jersey are introducing new taxes as they refuse to rein in their budgets.

I wonder if the drive-by media will keep a running monthly tally of the Obama casualties in the same manner as they did war casualties under George W. Bush. Or if protesters will plant crosses on mock graves for every job killed under the Obama administration. Will we have people protesting the loss of American treasure? The loss of American jobs? Will we have people camping across the street from Obama's house in Chicago, as they camped across the street from Bush's place in Crawford? Forty thousand jobs killed in one day. The Obama administration tells us we're going to lose two million more this year even if he gets what he wants.

Now, for those of you who think this is an unfair question, perhaps an unfair analogy, let me remind you: We are talking about lives here. We are not talking about jets. We are not talking about bathroom refurbishing. We are talking about what was once entrepreneurial freedom that's being usurped. We're trying to take these incidents as teachable moments, to illustrate that what's happening here is nothing more than a giant usurpation of trillions of dollars of private-sector wealth transferred to the government and then parceled out by that government on the basis of who they think ought to have it. They will pick winners and losers. We're talking about 40,000 people's lives, in one day. Their identities, their dreams, their hopes, and their jobs. Casualties. And there is a war going on. These are casualties in war, and I'm going to tell you what the war is. This is the Obama war on prosperity -- 40,000 jobs dead in one day.

From the November 6, 2008, broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Now, Carl Cameron did a report on Fox last night. He was on The O'Reilly Factor, and he's now been everywhere on Fox because people have been leaking to him. But it's not just -- it's not just Fox and Carl Cameron. Newsweek -- Newsweek has a special project they call -- on Sarah Palin, the purpose of which is to destroy Sarah Palin and, of course, establish the anointed one.

Speaking of Obama, by the way, the Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen. Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression. It's -- he hadn't done anything yet, but his ideas are killing the economy. His ideas are killing Wall Street. They need some certainty. And now everybody in the drive-bys -- we don't know who Obama is. We've got a story from Jennifer Loven at the Associated Press today -- we don't know who Obama is. All of a sudden now on Charlie Rose, they're starting to talk about his ties to Saul Alinsky.

From the January 8 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: This is Obama, the President-select, ramping up the crisis mentality.

OBAMA [audio clip]: If nothing is done, this recession could linger for years --

LIMBAUGH: Stop the tape a minute. Recessions come out of their cycles in 24-month periods if you just leave them alone. Wait and see is what works. Recessions -- it's the average length of time for a recession in America. Depression is a different thing. What now, Snerdley? What's the problem? Mm-hmm. I'm not suggesting benign neglect. I'm not suggesting benign neglect. I am suggesting that we have the undertaker in charge of the body before it's dead.

Think of Washington as a giant funeral home, and we are the living. And the undertakers are not changing their jobs. Their jobs are to prepare bodies for burial. We are on a conveyor belt heading into the funeral home. Most of us are smiling like stupid idiots at the prospects for our future. All because some guy who can put 10 words together -- which say nothing -- makes them feel good.

From the December 8 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: And so you see, ladies and gentlemen, Obama wants nothing to do with whatever proposals are hammered out now. And, frankly, neither do the Democrats in Congress. They want to be able to hang as much of this on George Bush as they can, which means Chris Matthews and Dan Rather and Gwen Ifill -- sorry to disappoint you, but your President-elect does not want the job right now. Because he's not interested in fixing anything right now. He's comfortable with it getting worse right now, so that when he does take office in January, he'll have a smooth, clean, clear road in front of him to wave his magic wand and do whatever he wants.

And I think Chris and the rest of you better understand something. He's stoking the fire of unrest. He is turning up the heat on the notion of crisis. It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get worse. It's gonna get a lot worse before it gets any better.

From the January 21 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

CALLER: Well, I wanted to just phone in because I adore you, but I have to hold you account for the little person out here. I am a small business owner -- one person, home-based. I have a house that's now valued at $200,000 worth less than what we bought it for it five years ago. And up and down my street are all home-based self-employed contractors. You name it: GCs, window guys, electricians. We all do our own business, and we're hurting.

And I didn't vote for Obama. I don't believe anything -- any of the socialist policies he's got going on. But God, I need the hope. I need people to open their wallets. I need them to start spending and believing that the economy is going to get better, or myself and hundreds of other people up and down my street are going to lose our houses, are going to lose our families and everything. And that's the thing that kills me -- the thing that I really need for people to believe in. I almost -- like I really --

LIMBAUGH: OK.

CALLER: I should care. I should care more about the policy and all that stuff, but I need people to start believing that America is going to turn that corner, because we've got to get to the bottom of this and start moving up. What do I do, Rush?

LIMBAUGH: Well, you might want to consult history. I don't know how old you are, but I've got a story in the stack that I'll get to quickly. It was much worse than this 26 years ago, Ronald Reagan's second year. The 1970s were an absolute disaster: double-digit unemployment, double-digit interest rates. Nobody could borrow because they couldn't afford it. You couldn't -- and back then, you had to have 20 percent down to buy a house unless you went FHA, and even -- and that was very tough to qualify for back then. I mean, there's a reason that 20 percent down for a house -- it shows a commitment to the purchase.

At any rate, the country came around with policies that got government out of the way, that lowered business and personal income taxes. It encouraged -- you know the one word that Obama did not mention yesterday in his speech? There were many words he didn't mention -- one word key: did not mention incentive.

CALLER: Oh, that's true.

LIMBAUGH: No incentive. What do you expect Obama to do to make your customers start spending money?

CALLER: You know, I don't know, but I know -- you know, when you're watching the -- and I have to admit I agree with you that the fawning and the -- you know, I was waiting for the great golden idol to be put up in the middle of the square. You know, forget --

LIMBAUGH: But you are -- look, I've got to run here, but you are willing to put up with that if you think some of this is going to come your way. And this, unfortunately, is the trick that they are playing. They're roping in otherwise responsible people like you with policies that have put you where you are in the first place.

From the January 12 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I want to talk for a moment to those of you who are out of work. Can I have your attention please? Those of you that have been fired, those of you who have been laid off. Those of you who -- not just recently either, but maybe in the past six months or so. But particularly to those of you laid off in the past couple or three months. I want to speak brazenly, honestly with you. And extremely openly with you.

As you know, I'm an optimist and I have a philosophy that guides me most of the time. Even I, strong and committed, a rock, a spine of steel, even sometimes I slip and the negative outweighs the positive. I catch myself. One of my operating philosophies and theories is that no matter how bad something is there's always good to be found in it. There's always something good to be found in bad. And it's hard to look for the good because a lot of people wanta wallow in the bad. Wallow in the bad -- oh, woe is me. It's natural. It's human nature.

The first thing that I think those of you who are out of work -- and there are two kinds of people that are out of work: those who want to start working soon, and those who are content to live on extended unemployment benefits. I'm primarily speaking to those of you who want to go back to work.

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LIMBAUGH: So my point here is job to job, and a career is a different thing. And a career has goals, objectives, short and long-term. A career -- somebody that has a career vision more than likely has a passion for what they love to do and know what it is. So that's to me wherein the opportunity lies.

And it's sad that people are out of work, and it's sad they're being laid off, but it's also very sad that some of these layoffs are happening as a preventive measure not yet necessary because of the economic downturn. These are just smart people hedging the bets, and you're the bet. They're betting taxes are going to go up. They're betting it's going to cost more to have health care for employees. They're betting it's going to have more cost to give Medicare, and so -- whatever it is. And so, none of these businesses are bottomless pits of money.

So they're getting ready for the additional costs of doing business. And the most expensive cost of doing business is labor. And the fastest way to bring the budget in line is getting rid of people. Faster than getting rid of printers. Faster than getting rid of paper clips. Faster than getting rid of the coffee machine or charging for lunch in the cafeteria, or what have you.

From the November 6, 2008, broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: OK, so let me start at the top here connecting the dots. On Tuesday we elect a new president. New president promised even before the election, by the way, when we had a 4,000-point drop -- the president promised to increase corporate taxes, capital gains taxes, the top marginal tax rate, a massive new energy tax that will bankrupt coal, and his party is talking about a government takeover of 401(k) plans.

So on Wednesday, the Dow drops about 486 points. It's down 346 points today. But of course, according to the drive-bys, these two events have nothing to do with each other. It's just a coincidence. The market's down today because of the jobless numbers. That's how the drive-bys see it. We have the largest market plunge after an election in history. Thank you, man-child Barack Obama.

From the January 8 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I just heard something that, frankly, surprises me. I was watching a little post-speech commentary from our friends in the drive-bys, and Nina Easton, who is a Fox News contributor and analyst -- I think she's -- she writes for Fortune magazine so she writes now for business audience. She used to be the Washington bureau chief for The Boston Globe. She got out of there in the nick of time before the New York Times Company had to declare bankruptcy; they own the Boston Globe. At any rate, she said that the business community has signed onto this. The business community is all for the Obama economic plan, because of the tax cuts that are in for business in the Obama economic plan.

Now, when the speech began, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was at 50 -- down 50. As we speak now, ladies and gentlemen, the Dow Jones Industrial Average is down about 95. So it has fallen 45 points, yet the business community is behind this speech, behind the plan from the get-go.

From the January 15 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I would call this the Obama stock market. The Obama stock -- if we're gonna -- if the stocks are gonna surge in November in the drive-by media because of Timothy Geithner being chosen, then by God, the stocks plummeting for whatever reason after that is also due to Obama. The drive-bys cannot have it both ways.

So to me, this is the Obama report card. It's entirely fair to call this Obama's stock market because it's reacting to what Obama's plans are for the economy. It's not reacting to Bush. Bush isn't on anybody's mind here. Financial markets are a rough predictor of future economic performance, and based upon what the markets know of Obama's plans, it's giving him a failing grade.

I'm not being political. The markets deal in bottom lines. It takes the pulse of millions of investors both in this country and abroad to report the results unfiltered. Keynesians can spin this all day long, but the people with skin in the game aren't buying. They're selling. They don't like massive budget deficits. They don't like the omission of tax rate cuts from Obama's plan. Slashing government spending in tax rates would provide a -- like I said yesterday: He could do -- he could get the markets up 500 points tomorrow without doing a thing. Just say he's considering massive tax cuts. Just considering it. And you watch the difference. That's precisely why he won't do it.

So the markets are selling off. It's Obama's stock market. His decisions are not inspiring the country's economic activists. They have chosen to sit on the sidelines until they feel it's safe to invest again.

From the November 20, 2008, broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: You know, if you go back and you actually can find some objective history of the Great Depression and FDR, there are many indications that FDR -- I mean, the New Deal did not fix the Great Depression; it made it worse. The New Deal prolonged it. But in the process, FDR secured massive power for himself as well as his party. And Obama has indicated that his model is FDR.

From the January 22 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Apparently -- see, I have a thriving merchandise business down there, the "Club Gitmo" T-shirt, cap and other assorted -- like soap-on-a-rope and other things, little gifts and ideas people can have and walk around. Obama's executive order today has threatened my thriving merchandise business. This is an example of the kind of stimulus that we're going to get from the new president, putting one of my businesses out of business? I have one year, supposedly -- I have one year left. Therefore, I have issued an executive order to my marketing people at the EIB store.

A brand new line of "Club Gitmo" merchandise. We'll work on the individual designs, but every item, be it the soap-on-a-rope, be it the T-shirts, be it the "Club Gitmo" caps -- will have a phrase: "When America was Safe." "Club Gitmo, When America was Safe," and we're going to get this merchandise in the pipeline here. We're also, ladies and gentlemen, going to have a new little logo for "Club Gitmo." We're going to have a swimming pool, which is water, with a diving board which allows people to waterboard at "Club Gitmo" by diving into the recreation pool via our diving board. That will be one of the new logos. That executive order has gone out from me to the marketing managers at the EIB store. Here is, ladies and gentlemen: "When America was Safe."

From the January 15 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBUAGH: If I'm a worldwide terrorist and I'm watching all this, there are certain things that I have to realize here: that my task has just been made easier. My task has just been made much easier. The United States claims it's going to close Guantánamo Bay, where it has been learned that 61 detainees who were released from "Club Gitmo" have returned to commit terrorist acts.

Yeah, this is shaping up. It's -- folks, it's going to be fascinating to watch and be part of. It's going to be frustrating, too, and I understand it every bit as much as you do, but elections have consequences.

From the January 22 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: Anyway, Politico, Jim VandeHei, John Harris, "What We Don't Know About Obama." What we don't know about Obama. And here are the things they write that they don't know. Does he really think Afghanistan is winnable? Do deficits matter? How fast is too fast in Iraq? What's in the files? Do unions wear white hats? Can U.S. power save Darfur?

Now, John and Jim, you know I love you. Why didn't you ask him? You are journalists. You are reporters. Why didn't you ask him during the campaign if he thinks Afghanistan is winnable, if deficits matter. Good Lord. Why didn't you ask him? It reminds me of this.

[begin audio clip]

ROSE: I don't know what Barack Obama's worldview is.

BROKAW: No, I don't either.

ROSE: I don't know how he really sees where China is.

BROKAW: We don't know a lot about Barack Obama and the universe of his thinking about foreign policy.

ROSE: I don't really know. And do we know anything about the people who are advising them?

BROKAW: You know, that's an interesting question.

ROSE: He is principally known through his autobiography and through very aspirational speeches.

BROKAW: Now I don't know what books he's read.

ROSE: What do we know about the heroes of Barack Obama?

BROKAW: There's a lot about him we don't know.

[end audio clip]

LIMBAUGH: Tom, you work at NBC News. Assign a reporter. Or are there no reporters left at NBC? Everybody at NBC now just a commentator? An agitator? Everybody at NBC just trying to be like me? Are there no reporters left?

So here we have Brokaw and Charlie Rose. That's before -- let's see, that's October 30, that's even before the election, admitting to one another they don't know who he is. Don't forget the Newsweek guys who called him creepy after the Grant Park acceptance speech. Yes, he watches us watching him. He ascends above the stage after the speech and watches. It's creepy.

And now The Politico founders. Questions for Obama. They're reporters. Why didn't you ask him in the campaign? See, they didn't vet on purpose. They didn't even want to know these things before the election. They don't want to know the answers themselves.

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    • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 8:50 am ET)
         

      PigMan's greatest hits.

      It's often been pointed out that Rush uses projection ...  falsely accusing Liberals of doing what he in fact is doing.  His wish for Obama's failure is a perfect example, and proves that he's a lying hypocrite.

      Anyone who listens to him will remember that he repeatedly accused Democrats of hoping that Bush would fail in Iraq.  Of course, he never had any evidence of this,  no quotes from Democrats to back it up... just another one of his countless gratuitous assertions.  A big fat lie, in other words.

      Now we have the Rotund One on record hoping that Obama fails.

      What will it take to pry the lips of Conservatives off of this man's fat butt?

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      • Author by donaldmaddog5642 (January 28, 2009 9:14 am ET)
           

        Nerzog, just read the comment from "proudconservative".  Gulp!  Man, he's got us pegged, don't he?

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        • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 9:22 am ET)
             

          NarcissisticNeanderthal is a Conservative Talking Points Parrot.  I'm not surprised that he would be a Rush Limbaugh apologist.

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      • Author by leatherhelmet (January 29, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
           

        Harry Reid say the war is lost.  Murtha slandered marines accusing them of murder.  They did it to demoralize the general public and to quit..i.e. lose the war.

        Today, Rush said he wants the President to succeed. 

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        • Author by Brabantio (January 29, 2009 9:09 pm ET)
             

          Reid said the war was lost if it continued the way Bush wanted.  That's an important part of that you conveniently omitted.

          So Rush caved to public opinion, since he is so clearly on the losing side of it.  Good.

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    • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 9:04 am ET)
         

      First, he is the voice of conservatism.  He blasted republicans, including Bush, for not following conservative principles when they were in power.  They spent wastefully, like drunken democrats. He and other conservatives were sounding the clarion call that moving to the left would mean defeat for the republican party.

      Secondly, whether he says anything about liberalism or not, it is doomed to fail on its own.  Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.  Just ask the Ukrainians that were starved under Stalin.

      Thirdly, in words akin to Rev. Lowery, "If you a leftistman, expect conservatives to bodyslam!"  And everyone who loves freedom and liberty say amen!

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      • Author by PurpleState (January 28, 2009 9:14 am ET)
           

        If Rush is to be any group's voice, I implore that he does it ethically.  No more stitching together sound-bites to make the truth an untruth.  He needs to point out the plusses of conservatism, not just the minuses of liberalism.

        Construction, not destruction.

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        • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 9:45 am ET)
             

          purplenurple,

          This is the 11th signator of the petition, a democrat:

          "I’m somewhat disappointed in my party right now…

          The (edited) audio recording posted on this page:

          “If I wanted Obama to succeed, I’d be happy the Republicans have laid down.  I don’t want this to work.  So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.”

          The actual words Limbaugh said, according to the transcript on his webpage:

          “If I wanted Obama to succeed, I’d be happy the Republicans have laid down.  And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him.  Look, what he’s talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care.  I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don’t want this to work.  So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.”

          It’s somewhat discouraging to me that a fellow Democrat would think that in order to discredit a smear merchant like Limbaugh, we would have to resort to similar tactics.  Doctoring his message plays right into the Republicans’ hands.

          Posted by Adam Gieseler in Williamsburg, Virginia | 01/27/09, 12:32 PM EST" Who's doing the stitching?
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 10:01 am ET)
               

            Here's the problem: Limbaugh wants Obama to fail because he wants Obama's (alleged Socialistic) philosophy to fail. 

            Any decent American, who is more concerned about the health of his nation than the health of his philosophy, would hope that Obama succeeds.  After all, isn't the problem with Socialism that it "doesn't work?"  If it WORKS, why oppose it? 

            Also, since Limbaugh, Hannity etc are convinced that Obama's plan is Socialism, and that Socialism "doesn't work," why be concerned that Obama's plan will Succeed?  Doesn't "history" already tell us that it WON'T? 

            Could it be that Limbaugh is being more honest than his followers would like to admit- he's afraid that the time-honored arguments against Socialism are about to be exposed as LIES, and that when Obama's "socialistic" (labeled as such by the Conservatives, who will not be permitted to take it back) plans succeed, their whole reason for being ceases to exist?

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            • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 10:21 am ET)
                 

              stutteringjamele,

              Go to a library and get a basic political science book.  Read about conservatism and liberalism, or the right and the left.  I think then you will have a stronger handle on what the concepts are and who/what individuals are expousing.

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              • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2009 11:22 am ET)
                   

                Go read the constitution, one little gem you will learn doing so is that there is no litmus test as to what kind of policies can or can't be allowed. There is no litmus test as to what kind of policies defines America. There is no litmus test as to what political party is pro or anti american. And most importantly, if you lose big time in the elections, get over it. The american people as a whole have decided policies you support are bad for the country.

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                • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 3:50 pm ET)
                     

                  woodstockpal,

                  Is bailing out industry in the constitution and what of the 1st amendment?  Will we have a free press if it is beholding to government for payroll dollars?

                  I do however don't believe that socialism is what the dream of America was and should be.  The only lithmus test is whether something helps or hurts the ideals of personal responsiblilty, freedom to succeed and/or fail and that equality is expressed in terms of where we start as individuals, fairness in opportunity not the misery of demanding shared outcomes. 

                  As far as elections, you are correct.  So part of my job as a citizen is to make sure others (even nice folks like you, snoopdawg) understand why recently proposed policies are detrimental to americanism and inform and educate as to the difference between that and the gammet of leftism.

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                  • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2009 5:55 pm ET)
                       

                    Seems we have a very similar job. My job as a citizen is to make sure others understand why the last 8 years worth of policies are detrimental to americanism and inform and educate as to the difference between that and the gammet of rightism.

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              • Author by roundhouse (January 28, 2009 2:47 pm ET)
                   

                You're stuck in the big gubmint partisan bubble. The truth is Obama is looking to use what works and discard what doesn't, but the important thing is that something gets tried before it's discarded. This is where the Republicans are acting in bad faith, they want to scuttle any idea that clashes with their narrow market fundamentalist view. The right are not willing to part with the failed ideology of unrestrained capitalism. 

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                • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
                     

                  Thanks for defending my position so succinctly!  it is partisan, socialism versus conservatism, free market versus command economies.  I hope that someone stands up for this, what you describe as bad faith is the people speaking to power.

                  I think that when individual freedom is applied anywhere, including the economy, it beats the heck out of new soviet-like endeavors.

                  As far as 'unrestrained' capitalism, I don't understand the term, please explain that to me.

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                  • Author by roundhouse (January 28, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
                       

                    It's not an either/or struggle, it's not even a struggle. It's simply about making government work. 

                    So, no. I didn't prove your point. I don't see the recovery efforts as good vs evil like you do. sorry.

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                    • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 6:15 pm ET)
                         

                      I'm for making government work by making less of it!

                      What is 'unrestrained' capitalism?

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                      • Author by roundhouse (January 28, 2009 7:31 pm ET)
                           

                        You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not about making government too big or too small. It's about making it work. 

                        Unrestrained capitalism is a market fundamentalist belief that no rules are good rules. It always ends the same way. 

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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 10:23 am ET)
                 

              So JJ, you talked in so many circles you made no sense, sounds like to me you are ok with Socialism, but you are also aware that it fails, but hey give it a try and fail.

              The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.
              Thomas Jefferson

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              • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 10:53 am ET)
                   

                Well, let's see- we tried unregulated Capitalism in the late-19th century and got masses of starving people working themselves to death in factories, being buried alive in coal mines, mangled by machines, spending miserable lifetimes in rat-infested slums, all to make a tiny handful of people obscenely wealthy.

                So yes, I plead guilty- I wouldn't mind at all if we were to give Socialism a try.

                I love how "Socialist" and "Socialism" are tossed around like they are curse words and the enemies of "freedom" and "Americanism."  What a joke.  Unregulated Capitalism does NOT equal Americanism, as much as you and the "liberal" media try to tell us it does.

                We've tried unregulated Capitalism- and even when it was exposed as a miserable failure, every move to regulate it and make it more responsive and valuable to the great mass of people has been met with fierce opposition from brain-dead robots who see Reds behind every tree.  We are once again reaping the "benefits" of Capitalism right now, with a collapsing middle class.  The last time this happened, we got horrible "Socialistic" ideas like Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, and public works programs.  Oh, the horrors!  Maybe this time, we'll get national health insurance and government ownership of the banking, mortgage and health care industries.  Sign me up.

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                • Author by ex-punk (January 29, 2009 1:11 am ET)
                     

                  Unregulated capitalism leads to fascisim where business rules the country, not "We the People."   Hmmm  "We the People"  sounds socialist too me. 

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              • Author by congero6189599 (January 28, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
                   

                Excuse me if I'am not impressed with a quote from a slave owner  and a man who thought African slaves would never be the equal of a white-man,Thomas Jefferson.  With unemployment rising by the day all you have is your tired rhetoric "that people don't want to work."  The problem with high unemployment is not that people don't won't to work their being laid off!!!!

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              • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
                   

                I hate to burst your bubble, but there's no evidence that Jefferson ever said such a thing.  Most likely it was fabricated by some Trickle Down Troglodyte in the 20th Century.  

                I know how you hate citing sources, but it might be useful in this case.

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            • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:31 am ET)
                 

              I knew that your post would be too complicated for our black & white thinkers to follow.

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          • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 10:11 am ET)
               

            This Government is really starting to scare me!

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            • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:30 am ET)
                 

              The Troglodytes who've taken over the Republican Party have been scaring me for years.

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            • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
                 

              This Government is really starting to scare me!

              So typical for the cons to be scared little bedwetters.  Scared of foreigners/immigrants.  Scared of Libs.  Scared of women.  Scared of competence.

              Must be an awful way to go through life being so darned scared all the time.

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        • Author by WorldlyMrR (January 28, 2009 9:54 am ET)
             

          "He needs to point out the plusses of conservatism, not just the minuses of liberalism."

          Pot, say hi to the Kettle!

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          • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 11:52 am ET)
               

            Your post would make sense if PurpleState had a national platform to spew political rhetoric.

            Otherwise, PurpleState doesn't have the responsibility to "...point out the plusses of conservatives, not just the minuses of liberalism."

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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 28, 2009 9:15 am ET)
           

        1) Stalin was a LIBERAL? Don't make me laugh.  Liberal doesn't mean Communist.  That's just a bunch of nonses your lot promotes. 

        2) The opposite of it's intended effect?  Doomed to failed?  You might be right, but it's usually republicans who come in and underfund the hell out programs that had been working just fine, and then say they are unsustainable failures.

        Republicans always say that government can't do anything right, and they proove it every time they get elected.

        Rush has always been He's a liar and a hypocrite.  But noe he's on record HATING America.  He's now PROVEN himself to be a traitor as well.  (To use the words of his camp.)

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        • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 10:11 am ET)
             

          meandudeedward,

          1)  Liberals are leftists politically, socialized (fill in the blank) is good, government control is the best way, freedom and free market 'bad'. Marx believed that the purpose of socialism was a temporary fix on your way to 'higher' socialism, ie communism. This is where everyone basically works for and gets paid by the government.  Party leadership makes the decisions about how much you get paid(TARP funds), how people can live(#of children for couples in China), and where resources are alloted to make the economy go (food for the Ukrainians under Stalin, or abortions funded by government to make less babies for the state to have to worry about or strain the economy, just like Pelosi extolled)  Following these on the left is facism and totalitarianism, where power is held by a single or small group.  Liberalism and liberals today are not your father's liberalism.

          2) Make every have access to home mortgages, force banks by fiat to give money to high risk recipients.  This is the core of the fannie mae/freddie mac scandal and deeply involved in today's financial crisis.  Liberals say, everyone person have a home so the economy improves; reality says giving away free money will eventually harm the economy.  The left's program generated the exact opposite of what its stated intent was.                                                             

          (Sounds alot like liberal plans for the economy today and what they want to do with health care too!) 

          Rush doesn't hate America, he, like me and many others, hate what liberalism will do to America.

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          • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
               
            You're a pretty big chump if you think that Rush does what he does because he "hates what liberalism will do to America." Using "liberal" as a perjorative is a way to marginalize ideas you don't like. Have you read the Book of Acts lately? Esp. St. Peter's redistribution of wealth.
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            • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 2:35 pm ET)
                 

              Liberal is as much a perjorative as is conservatism.  It doesn't marginalize as much as it identifies.  When I use liberal, I mean leftisit politically.  I do worry about what liberalism/leftism will do to this country and what it may do to hurt the spirit of this country and its citizens, specifically the loss of individual freedom and responsibility.

              As far as the Acts of the Apostles, I think you were referencing the last few verses of the 2nd Chapter of Acts (a neat name for a christian singing group).  Christians were selling all of their possessions and giving the money away.  The number of people were added daily to the church and they were receiving blessing from the populace.  (I apologize for my weak summary of the text)  So may I remind you that this was the action of individuals motivated by love for God, response to salvation from His Son, Jesus and presence of the Holy Spirit.  This was no government enterprise and forced redistribution of wealth. but rather the work of individuals being charitable because of their individual choice to respond is such a fashion.  I think there is a difference between forced redistribution, ie increased taxation and and a personal expression of free will through charity.

              Later on in Acts, Annanias and his wife Saphhira die because they kept part of the money from a sale of land.  Their sin was not in the selling or the keeping of money but in the deception of saying they gave full price.  They died where they stood when confronted, today if they tried to hold back and keep some of the money for themselves, Obama would have probably asked them to serve as Secretary of the Treasury.

              x's & o's

              a pretty big chimp

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              • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 3:53 pm ET)
                   
                Well since I did what St. Peter suggested many years ago, I'm please to report that it's a very wonderful way to live. The "each according to need" originated in Acts, by the way. I'd say that "we the people" collectively decide our course and helping the "least among us" is a very proper course to take. It's enabled my mentally challenged brother-in-law to have a productive life all his adult years. He's held a full time job the whole time, thanks to social programs and government support.
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                • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 4:11 pm ET)
                     

                  You have ridden yourself of all earthly possessions?  Is your work now only charitable, either done for free or proceeds given fully to charitable causes?  Unless your wearing a habit, it can't so but it is part of your spirit and view of life.

                  I know someone who's adult child works with the Salvation Army and is autistic.  This again is not a government enterprise but is supported through charity.  They provide a job but he earns his keep.

                  We should take care of the least among us and obviously you and hopefully, I do try to follow that adage.  But, more is accomplished when individuals invest time, money, effort to help other individuals.  My objection is not with helping, it is with the attitude that only government should provide services.  It renders personal responsibilty null both in the recipient and giver and the removes the blessing each receives.

                  God's Peace.

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                  • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 11:19 pm ET)
                       
                    To the above, I did do that for 15 years. It was great. As far as the government vs private charity; we need to do both. The Savation Army does good work but can't possibly provide enough help for everyone in need. You forget that many of those salvation army employed depend upon government services for help with housing, medical needs, case workers to help them get help in a myriad of ways. Public/private partnerships work very well.
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                    • Author by ButteryPat (January 29, 2009 3:41 am ET)
                         

                      He also forgets that the Salvation Army, as do many non-profits and even for-profit recieve a TON of government money yearly. It's one of those of murky, "government or not government" areas that conservatives like to pretend don't exist so they can not understand how our economy works and still have an opinion on it. Here's something: see how many conservatives know and understand the term "corporate largesse". Then, if they don't (they will not), explain it to them and watch them vomit as they realize that arguing over "small goverment vs. big government" is a completely asinine argument in a country where government and private industry are so incestuously wrapped in each other.

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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (January 28, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
               

            Re 1) AMERICAN Liberals DO have a love of individual liberty.  To say otherwise is nonses.  Freedom = Bad? WHo are you, Ann Coulter?  Stalin (and otehrs) suppressed individual liberty.  Liberal = Left is a simplification at best, and only considers a broad economic underpinning.  Gov't = Good is also a simplification, and the sacrifice of freedom you are describing has nothing to do with American Liberalism (or indeed ANY liberalism! In Russia it's the CONSERVATIVES that are the communists!)

            Re 2) It was BUSH who wanted to put everyone into home ownership.  Banks were making a killing off of writing these loans (and then selling them off, slicing and dicing, etc...) and THAT'S why the lending standards went out the window.  Blaming CRA, etc... is more conservative bunk, spewed in an effort to dodge responsibility, and avoid more regulation.  SOME democrats share blame (Pres Clinton, Sen Dodd, Sen Frank) but the LIBERAL PHILOSOSHY only aimed to combat racist lending practices.  CRA did this, and was generally successfull:  Only 20% of subprime loans were even issue by institutions governed by the CRA, and CRA loans had a lower default rate that those of most other sub-prime lenders.  The BANKS (all run by Repub's) really caused this mess.  It was their greed and shortsightedness (both hallmarks of the conservative philosophy, from my POV) that made what should have been a managble problem into a world-wide disaster.  AND YOU WANT EVEN LESS OVERSIGHT?  Some philosphy you have their.

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            • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
                 

              Again find a basic poly sci textbook and understand how the political continum works.

              1) A conservative in the old USSR was someone tilted further left.  A liberal communist is one that moves toward freedom and individual liberty.  It's like looking at an image in a mirror, it's backwards and the terminology is reversed accordingly.

               2)  I will provide a link to how fannie/freddie to see who wanted less oversight of this bottomless pit of goodies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

              Liberalism today is anything but seeking colorblindness.  In fact, before anything else you are idendified as belonging to a group based on race, color, creed, religion and are categorized by that tag.  Conservatives like myself, try to look for the quality of character in an individual and judge that and not by the color of their skin.  To force by government fiat, the lending of money to individuals who were not financially able to afford a house is bad business, to do it because of the racial demographics, ie your comment about ending racist lending practices, is the epitomy of racism.  Racism being defined as you being judged by race not character or ability to repay a loan.  Those should have been given to people who finacially derserved it.  Liberals want to continue to victimize people by denying the individual's ability to acheive, succeed or fail on their own merits.

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              • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 3:21 pm ET)
                   

                "Racism being defined as you being judged by race not character or ability to repay a loan."

                That's brilliant, "brilliant" being defined as "lacking honesty and intelligence".  Racism is the belief that a race is inferior, not lending money to black people.

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                • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
                     

                  vinniebarbarino,

                  You were sooooooo close but a good effort anyway.  Racism is the belief that a race is inferior!  Choosing not to lend to people because of their race is also racism!  But, you missed the point, telling people that they are inferior and can only get money from a government handout is the worst kind of racism!

                  I said that the loans should not have been given because of finances, that's not racist, that's demanding equal treatment by the banks and lendees.  If the banks were using race as the guide, go after them, but if they were making business decisions without looking at race they were not acting with racial bias.  When the gov't said do this or else, they began to have to make decisions based on demographics not sound business policy.

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                  • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
                       

                    "Racism being defined as you being judged by race not character or ability to repay a loan."

                    "Choosing not to lend to people because of their race is also racism!"

                    Not unless the cause of it is a belief that people of that race are inferior.

                    "But, you missed the point, telling people that they are inferior and can only get money from a government handout is the worst kind of racism!"

                    Nobody's telling anyone they're inferior here.  That's your spin on it, nothing more.

                    "I said that the loans should not have been given because of finances, that's not racist, that's demanding equal treatment by the banks and lendees."

                    I didn't say you said anything racist. My point is that you can't just make up meanings for words.

                    Again, please stop with the name-mangling.  I've asked you many times, nicely, and you say you accomodate such requests.

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                    • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 9:51 pm ET)
                         

                      Actually, I don't recall you asking me, nicely or not but I will refrain from here on in.  That's how I work it.

                      I still believe that when you tell someone they don't have to measure up to a standard because of their race, you infer that they can't because of their race.  That's how liberals work it.

                      But what's with the thin skin?

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                      • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 10:11 pm ET)
                           

                        Black people are disproportionately poor, it's really that simple.  There's nothing there about implying any inability whatsoever.  Like I said, that's your spin.  You infer it because the reality of liberals addressing racial inequality is inconvenient to your politics.

                        What thin skin?  How is someone supposed to ask you to quit with the name game (again and again) without asking you to quit?  That's all I did.  If that's not what you're referring to, then be more specific.

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                • Author by Mrs. Teufelshunde (January 28, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
                     

                  Incidentally, I relistened to King's "I Have a Dream" speech earlier this week, and I find it interesting that cons always pare this speech down to "judged not by their skin but by the content of their character" - it fits into their whole "personal responsibility" mantra, but if you listen to King's whole speech, that was not the summarization I think he would have taken.  But it's always the default position - any attempts to acknowledge that race exists (at least in our current societal definitions) is met with "that's not what Dr. King would have wanted!"

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                  • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
                       

                    Right, King supported affirmative action, but by PC's logic he couldn't have because that's "judging by race".

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                    • Author by ButteryPat (January 29, 2009 4:49 am ET)
                         

                      Right. Because, to conservatives, a vague interpretation of the only Dr. King speech they were forced to listen to in school is just as concrete and well thought-out as the ACTUAL opinions King expressed on numerous subjects. So Affirmative Action? Obviously, you're not judging people by the content of their character. Now, when you contrast that idiotic point with King's actual opinion, you get this:

                      "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something for the Negro" - Martin Luther King

                      So yeah, King's opinion on Affirmative Action is sooo nebulous and difficult to interpret. :)

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          • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
               

            Rush doesn't hate America, he, like me and many others, hate what liberalism will do to America. - PC

            Rush might not hate America, but he sure doesn't put America's interests first, does he?

            You and Rush, like many others, hate what liberalism will do to America? OK.

            I and many others like me, hate what conservatism has ALREADY DONE to America.  Nice mess you folks got us into.  Thanks a million!

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            • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 5:00 pm ET)
                 

              nosuchkindofliberalpossible,

              If only conservatism had remained in place.  We feel we were let down by our president and legislators who believed that spending money without restraint would be a good thing.

              Maybe next time.

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              • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
                   
                If only...it's your philosophy that has let you down, time and again. Reagan cut income taxes for the wealthy, but at the same time raised social security taxes through the roof. Robbing the poor to pay the rich.
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      • Author by DAWUSS (January 28, 2009 9:23 am ET)
           

        "First, he is the voice of conservatism.  He blasted republicans, including Bush, for not following conservative principles when they were in power.  They spent wastefully, like drunken democrats. He and other conservatives were sounding the clarion call that moving to the left would mean defeat for the republican party."

        When did Rush do that? The only ones who did that were Neal Boortz and Michael Savage, people who aren't Republicans. (And yes, I am aware that Savage would go from calling Bush the greatest of all time to the worst of all time and back again in a period of 3 days)

        "Secondly, whether he says anything about liberalism or not, it is doomed to fail on its own.  Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.  Just ask the Ukrainians that were starved under Stalin."

        You could say some of the same things about conservatism.

        Look, the right isn't a dream world and the left isn't a fantasy land. Both sides have their flaws, and both sides have their strengths.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 9:28 am ET)
           

        ArrogantAsshat,

        Stalin was a sociopathic tyrant.  Nothing "Liberal" about him.

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        • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 10:12 am ET)
             

          eggnog,

          *See above reply to 'meandueedward'.

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          • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:24 am ET)
               

            HubristicHittite,

            You mean that Straw Man screed you posted?

            You left out the part where Wall Street took all those bad mortgages and sliced them up into phony investment vehicles and distributed them throughout the monetary system like rat poison. THAT is what brought the house down.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 10:12 am ET)
           

        ProudConservative...Liberalism always generates..etc, is the first rule of that famous Unrepentent Sexual Harrasser Jim Quinn. That and the rest of his(your) list is as less intelligent as the paper it is written on. You use the RadioNut Wing baloney and act like it is your idea. ProudConservative, please admit that you are Jim the Unrepentant Sexual Harrasser or are you the Phony Christian Radio Rosie?

        ?

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        • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 10:16 am ET)
             

          queenofflats,

          So good to hear from you again.  Alas and alack, I am neither the dear Quinn nor beautiful Rose but love to listen in when I can.  The same way you listen in to liberal radio hosts in the steel city......oops, sorry I forgot, they all have been canned because no one tuned in.

          Anywho...Go Stillers!

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          • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 10:29 am ET)
               

            Finally, you are correct about something, no talk shows for libs..although your reasoning is a little off. While you RadioNut Wingers need RUSH THE ENTERTAINER" (per Snoopy) to tell you what is going on, us dumb Liberals don't need radio ENTERTAINERS to guide us. We prefer research, common sense and thinking to get thru the day 

            I think you have just come up with the first rule of Conservatism....per Rushie..."Don't think, I'll do it for you". Must be why the Entertainers need to be on all day every day. They don't want the non-thinkers to run into walls. They certainly helped the Republicans lose the last two elections...by landslides,while their personal income grew and grew.

            But we have a common ground Mr. PC, it is a good beginning point. Go Stillers!! But beware the points.

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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 28, 2009 10:44 am ET)
                 

              us dumb Liberals don't need radio ENTERTAINERS to guide us

              Beside, most of us are at work and leading productive lives during the day when cons are sitting around on hold to say "ditto".

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              • Author by bruce1ace (January 28, 2009 11:34 am ET)
                   

                Where DO you find time to post amidst all that productivity?

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                • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 28, 2009 11:52 am ET)
                     

                  That would be the union down time he gets to use the company's computer so he can be "productive" fighting the evil conservatives that dare step into this echo chamber. 

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                  • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2009 11:55 am ET)
                       

                    Using his company's computer?

                    I guess I shouldn't be bringing up quotes from our Risen Savior about those without sin, huh?

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                    • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 28, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
                         

                      In their defense, W-king, they're probably living with their mother's and unemployed, so they're not posting on company time.

                      (Bruce & TBone-- I'm just kidding! goofing on a popular conservative theme)

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                • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 28, 2009 12:04 pm ET)
                     

                  I'm super-efficient, Bruce!   ;0)

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                • Author by Mrs. Teufelshunde (January 28, 2009 1:03 pm ET)
                     

                  you know, Col. IS on the west coast.  I notice he often posts well before the standard 9-5 workday.  Perhaps he wakes up extra early just to needle you cons?

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      • Author by c_harendza5545 (January 28, 2009 10:52 am ET)
           

        Being a "voice of conservatism" and promote conservative values is perfectly fine. 

        What is unacceptable are ad hominem attacks.  People like George Will and Joe Scarborough promote their conservative views without viscously attacking others.  I agree with many conservative views but when I hear Limbaugh, Hannity and other I just run. They have succumbed to the Howard Stern "in your face" mentality.  It is almost like Fascism!  What is worse is that Limbaugh (and Hannity) have no formal education. It has become the way "neocons" do business.  All human beings deserve to be treated in a respectful way.  What many of the conservative talk show hosts do is shameful and at times disgusting.

        I firmly beleive that one of the reasons, perhaps a big reason, conservatives lost in 2006 and 2008 is because mainstream America has run from the neocon hatred and propaganda.  This was certainly a factor in Republican losses in the Philadelphia suburbs - millions of voters went the other way because of it.

        The sooner Republicans distance themselves from Limbaugh and Hannity the sooner they will come back.

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      • Author by mrhebert74 (January 28, 2009 11:42 am ET)
           

        "They spent wastefully, like drunken democrats."

        Yes, I remember last time we had a Democratic president, when we had record deficits. Or wait. Maybe it was record surpluses? Whatever. Democrats are fiscally irresponsible, right?

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        • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 3:15 pm ET)
             

          Mr. Hebiejebie,

          Remember the economy really go humming after 1994, what happened then?  Were the promised tax cuts finally implemented?  Was there an effort to reign in government spending?  Remember how the conservatives were vilified by trying to limit the size of the 'growth' of government to inflation levels?

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      • Author by wookie (January 28, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
           

        Is there an award for most unsupported cliches in one post?

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      • Author by rms (January 28, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
           

        PC: "Liberalism always generates the exact opposite of its stated intent."  Thank you for including such a long list of example to prove your "always" point!

        You are frequently wrong, but perhaps not as totally as this inanity.

        As Joe Conason put so well in his book "Big Lies"

        "If your workplaces is safe; if your children go to school rather than being forced into labor; if you are paid a living wage, including overtime; if you enjoy a forty-hour week and you are allowed to join a union to protect your rights - you can thank the liberals.  If your food is not poisoned and your water is drinkable, you can thank liberals.  If your parents are eligible for Medicare and Social Security, so they can grow old in dignity without bankrupting your family - you can thank liberals.  If our rivers are getting cleaner and our air isn't black with pollution; if our wilderness is protected and our contryside is still green - you can thank liberals.  If people of all races can share the same public facilities; if everyone has the right to vote; if couples fall in love and marry regardless of race; if we have finally begun to transcend a segregated society - you can thank liberals.  Progressive innovations like those and so many others were achieved by long, entrenched power.  What defined conservatism, and conservatives, was their oppositoin to every one of these advances.  The country we know and love today was built by those victories for liberalism - with the support of the American people."

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    • Author by DAWUSS (January 28, 2009 9:17 am ET)
         

      When everyone else in the GOP is trying to distance themselves from you....

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      • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 10:25 am ET)
           

        . . . Just goes to show you the Repbulican Party (In Washington)  is going in the wrong direction. 

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (January 28, 2009 9:19 am ET)
         

      The other thing, aside from the habitual lying, is that Limbaugh is rarely ever correct about anything. And when he is incorrect (quite often) you never hear anything more about it. It's as though each daily show exists in a vacuum.

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      • Author by IRONY 101 (January 28, 2009 9:30 am ET)
           

        One more thing...

        LIMBAUGH: "I'm not out to save the country. I'm out to get a large audience. I'm an entertainer first and a conservative second"

        Limbaugh should be hammered relentlessly, incessantly, with this one quote. In fact, I suggest that forever hereinafter any future references to Limbaugh should read The Entertainer, Rush Limbaugh. I'm sure Limbaugh will tryt to explain it away but the point is to put him on the defensive and make him defend his bona fides. An entertainer who makes $40 million dollars is not the person I would want to listen to complaining about taxes. An entertainer who is dedicated to obtaining large audiences first is not the most reliable source for rational political thought.

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        • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 9:35 am ET)
             

          If the Press weren't so corrupt and lazy, they would expose this clown for the lying sack of sh*t that he is.  Instead, they treat him as if he's some kind of deep political thinker.

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        • Author by Cheney2012 (January 28, 2009 11:37 am ET)
             

          IRONY:

          If Limbaugh is just an entertainer why is Obama, the Demcorats and the Liberals so obsessed on him?  They have been attacking Rush for a week.  Obama brought up his name in a meeting with Congressional Republicans.   If he is crazy and so irrelevant, why not just ignore him?

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          • Author by IRONY 101 (January 28, 2009 11:48 am ET)
               

            I agree that Obama, personally, should ignore him. Obama is the leader of the free world; The Entertainer Rush Limbaugh speaks to few million people. But, if The Entertainer, Rush Limbaugh is not the voice of the Republican Party at present it appears to me that he speaks for a lot of it...which doesn't say much for The Republican Party, does it? And his meritless attacks against the President are relentless. I think it should be pointed out by the media and Obama surrogates that Limbaugh, by his own admission, is primarily an entertainer. On scrutiny, and as someone else said, he's not a deep political thinker...he's The Entertainer, Rush Limbaugh.

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          • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
               

            Rush is crazy, but he's not irrelevant.  A case could be made that he and his army of imitators had enough of an impact on the 2000 election to saddle us with the worst president in modern history.

            In case you've forgotten,  Numbnuts just barely squeaked into office.  Would the outcome have been different if Gore had not been hammered relentlessly for months by paid liars like Rush?  Who knows?

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            • Author by bruce1ace (January 28, 2009 12:14 pm ET)
                 

              Again I will say it.

              Don't blame the opposition when you lose.  Look within your own party.  Bring better candidates to the table, like our current President.  He didn't have any trouble winning.

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              • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
                   

                We're not "blaming" the opposition, just the paid lying hacks that helped them get elected.

                More "move-on" crap.  I'm not buying it and never will.

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              • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 1:12 pm ET)
                   

                So George W. Bush was a better candidate than Gore?  Better than Dole or McCain?

                I think we're talking purely in terms of charisma here, and our electoral system should be more than about that.

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              • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 1:55 pm ET)
                   

                I think that's point for consideration, but I don't buy the notion that Numbnuts Bush was a "better candidate" than Gore.

                It could be argued that Bush had a better campaign staff, but his talk radio advantage cannot be discounted.  The GOP enjoyed a defacto 24/7 unregulated infomercial on hundreds of talk radio stations across the country.  They hammered Gore unmercifully.  You can't tell me that it had no effect.

                On factor that may have helped Obama is that the Blogosphere, some shows on MSNBC and a little more Liberal Talk Radio helped balance out the Troglodyte Talk Radio barrage.

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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 28, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
               

            Because they are scared of him.  If they weren't they wouldnt waste valueable bandwith on him. 

            Here is the first dem volley in the Unfairness Doctrine:

            Petition against Rush

            Oh, and don't forget the Messiah's message to House Republicans:

            Barry picks fight with Rush

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            • Author by skeptical (January 28, 2009 3:08 pm ET)
                 

              What's your point Tbone?

              That Obama isn't afraid of a lying blowhard.

              Well that is a good point!

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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 4:50 pm ET)
                 

              So, let me ask, even though it's off-topic a smidge...

              What is so wrong with the Fairness Doctrine? (I'm not saying yes or no to the FD, but curious as to the true reason why conservatives don't like the FD.  Inquiring minds want to know).  It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that radio conservatives might have to back up their lies with facts, would it?  If so, what's so wrong with that?

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    • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2009 9:27 am ET)
         

      Is he the "voice of conservatism"? Or just a megalomaniac?

      He rails against the ACLU, yet the ACLU fought for his right to keep his medical records private.

      He has a history of desiring harsh treatment of all drug users, yet he himself is an addict. He even gets his hired help involved in his drug dealings.

      He decries Moveon.org for what he thinks is a personal insult to Gen. Petraeus, yet calls Retired General and ex-Secretary of State, Colin Powell, "Genital Powell".

      Claims to support the troops but calls any soldier who disagrees with him a "phony soldier".

      He bleats on and on about patriotism and support for a country at war, yet he himself evaded the Vietnam era draft.

      The right should check their list of heroes and saviors. Many are not who they profess to be.

      In this case, Mr. Limbaugh is a drug addicted, hypocritical, self-centered coward.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 9:31 am ET)
           

        But he is good at his job.  He's paid to spearhead the GOP propaganda blitz, and has managed to keep his audience misinformed for nearly 20 years now.

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      • Author by juliajayne (January 28, 2009 9:47 am ET)
           

        Ah, WK, you are a righteous dude. I love you in a non Jeter2 type way :-0). I think you should copy that and post it every time some poor idiot tries to defend el puerco man, the antithesis of a true American patriot. 

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        • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2009 12:00 pm ET)
             

          Thanks JJ. Glad you mentioned "in a non Jeter2 type way". I live on the East Coast and I know our favorite New Englander has a long reach.

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          • Author by juliajayne (January 28, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
               

            Thanks for understanding King, my beautiful Masshole is very territorial. He wouldn't mind me saying so. Ha! ;-) 

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    • Author by bruce1ace (January 28, 2009 9:38 am ET)
         
      Limbaugh is an entertainer. If he has any pull with people in power, shame on them.
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    • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 9:40 am ET)
         

      Just read the wonderful comments on the DCCC petition drive!

      http://dccc.org/blog/archives/stand_strong_against_rush_limbaugh/

      Ouch, that's gotta hurt!

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      • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 10:05 am ET)
           

        It is sad that the DCCC is trying to quite a public voice; they act like he is a elected official.  In Radio you have to earn your way the top, he gets on the air each and everyday and entertains (yes he entertains and informs) his audience.  If this were so easy Air America would still be on the air, what happen with them?  FAILED, lost money and now gone.   Stop telling me what to do and listen too.

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        • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2009 11:55 am ET)
             

          Oops, looks like air america is still on the air! Boy, don't let facts get in the way of your beliefs...

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          • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 2:21 pm ET)
               

            Really Air America is still on the air really, I stand corrected thanks. Wow Snoopy your right I went to the web site. They listed all 61 Stations they present their ideas, they must be so proud,  and I am so happy to say that the first market that even gets close to me is over 200 miles min.  I also live in one of the top 5 media markets in the country, which proves they really have lost their audience. 

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        • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
             

          I don't think anyone has told you what to do and to whom you should listen.  No one in the Democratic Party, anyway.

          And why bring up Air America when you're argument is bogus?  To deflect attention?  To prove that you're totally bereft of any logic or fairness?

          It's too bad.  You guys lost the election.  And now, as you told us when Bush "won" his elections,

          "Sit down and SHUT THE F&*K UP.  We're driving now.  It's our turn."

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 9:43 am ET)
         

      If Rush Limbaugh were actually the "voice of Conservatism," he would not have taken on the role of Organization Republican Party Hack by destroying John McCain during the 2000 primaries.  He would have been out in front right away with the John Ashcroft for President or Gary Bauer for President campaign, instead of being an obvious, shameless water carrier for George Bush.

      Likewise, he would have spent the better part of the last eight years trashing Bush and the House Republicans for their big spending and government-power-expanding policies.  He would have denounced the Patriot Act and wiretapping.  He would have trashed Bush for failing to veto vast increases in government spending.  What did he do instead?  Deflect, Dodge, and Blame Democrats.

      Limbaugh is no Conservative; he's an entertainer who, in spite of all his claims to the contrary, has been happy to carry water for mainstream, organization Republicanism for his entire career.  As long as there is no clear leader of his party, he'll pick up the opposition mallet and swing away at Obama, but the moment the party coalesces around a mainstream figurehead, Limbaugh will fall into line.  Like he always does. EVERY TIME.

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      • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 10:25 am ET)
           

        jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjamele,

        You need to listen to Rush yourself and not take the words of those who hate conservatism at face value. 

        If you listened, you would have heard him trash liberalism in the republican party, their spending like drunken democrats, Bush for adding to our Medicare bill,etc.  He speaks for conservatism, not the republican party and if you ever listened yourself, you would have known that.

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        • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:28 am ET)
             

          I've listened to him, and you're full of crap.  He pays lip service to "criticizing" Republicans, but he always comes home to his real masters.  He's a GOP water carrier;  you just can't admit it.

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          • Author by Cheney2012 (January 28, 2009 11:43 am ET)
               

            Nerzog,

            YOU are full of crap!   Rush has plenty od criticism for the GOP.  He HATED McCain.  Sure..when given a choice of McCain over Obama he of course chooses the lesser of 2 evils.

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            • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
                 

              Sure, he hammered McCain while the primaries were going on, but as soon as McCain was selected, he backed off and started hammering the Democrats.  

              You know it's true.... your hero is a paid shill for the GOP.  

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              • Author by Tbone Slickens (January 28, 2009 12:23 pm ET)
                   

                So he's unlike those objective middle of the roaders like, Franken used to be, Rhodes, Olberman, Maddow, and Colmes? 

                Rush is for the GOP?  Who knew?!

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                • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 12:44 pm ET)
                     
                  The people you name are nothing like Limbaugh. They have a point of view, yes; but they also base their opinion on facts. And they're not shills for a political party.
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                  • Author by juliajayne (January 28, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
                       

                    Randi Rhodes is a liberal, but she regularly critisizes Democrats. Sometimes brutally. And comparing Maddow to Rush is ludicrous. She's a smart, well informed lady and doesn't engage in useless hyper partisan hyperbole. Franken is middle of the road. He's no big liberal. Colmes is a major milquetoast and Olberman is a partisan, I agree. But he's not comparable to Rush in that he isn't trying to actively misinform people. That's what Rush does. And his listeners are mostly wilfully ignorant.

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                    • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 3:16 pm ET)
                         
                      jj, makes'em feel good to have lists. Even if their list doesn't prove their point at all...
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                    • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
                         

                      The both of you Pllllleeeasssse!

                      They use facts?  I have heard more hate and vitreol spewed by Franken and Obermann in 30 minutes than on Rush ever.  Did you ever see Franken when he would come on CNN?  Yikes!

                      I would agree that these don't compare to Rush, but it is only because so few people even care what they have to say.

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                      • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
                           
                        Hate & vitreol? I've listened to both of them for a number of years, and don't hear it. Sure they're angry at what has been done by the Bush/cheney cabal; if you were running on all cylinders, you'd be angry about it too.
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                      • Author by juliajayne (January 28, 2009 6:26 pm ET)
                           

                        Hey little feller, 

                        The sand has shifted beneath your feet and in Rush's case it's shifted mightily. But no worry. We'll pull you to safety. Even as you spit in the face of real progress and what's good for the country.   

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                • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
                     

                  "Rush is for the GOP?  Who knew?!"

                  Apparently CheneyWhenHellFreezesOver didn't.

                  Rush tells outright lies on a regular basis.  The others you listed do not.

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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 28, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
                 

              Rush has plenty od criticism for the GOP

              Spending,immigration, Harriet Meyers, Dubai ports... and repeat. Are we bipartisan yet?

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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 12:08 pm ET)
                 

              Please.  Rush Limbaugh wouldn't know true conservatism if it jumped up and bit him in the a$$.  He's out to carry water and make a buck.  He's been doing it for years - and when a leader jumps to the head of the line in the Republican party, you know Rush will be right behind him, licking his a$$.  It's what he does. 

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        • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 10:36 am ET)
             

          PC, why doesn't Rush the E-tainer do the country a world of good and run for office. I think that he would be willing to forgo his riches to guide the Conservative Party, which he should start, to save America from those Socommmilibranists. If RUSH really cared, he would do it. Until then, he is Mr. Irrelavant except to his flock.

          Although some think this is giving Rush the Eman(Entertainment Man) a platform to be heard, this is what the country needs to finally catch on to the personal nonsense he spews. His number won't grow on the plus side but surely, those hearing him for the first time will realize that this man is an Angry Barnum.

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          • Author by DAWUSS (January 28, 2009 10:48 am ET)
               

            He would probably get only 20% of the vote

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            • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 10:59 am ET)
                 

              20% of the Republican vote...maybe. He'll have to campaign and then he will be asked questions. He couldn't handle it. He'd crack under the pressure. He is Mr. Bravado behind a microphone in his bunker. He'd fold like a house of cards if he had to debate posters on the site.

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        • Author by TJ_rex (January 28, 2009 11:42 am ET)
             

          proudneocon, 

          If you thought the Shrub was going in the wrong direction and you think DC Republicans are going in the wrong direction then WHY DO YOU KEEP RE-ELECTING THEM?

          You're  a bunch of hypocrites!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Throw the bums out!

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          • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
               

            Oh! Let me answer that question! <raising hand vigorously>

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          • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
               

            I support conservatives.  I gave McCain a looksee because of Palin but couldn't support others on my ballot.  I'm hoping that the republicans get the message or we find a party that will.

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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
                 

              You gave McCain a looksee because of Palin?

              HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

              That made my day.  Thanks for the laugh. 

              Anyone taking Simple Sarah seriously deserves to be laughed at.

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              • Author by proudconservative (January 28, 2009 6:42 pm ET)
                   

                nosuchthingpossiblekindofliberal,

                Can 20,000 eskimos be wrong?  Still the most popular governor and conservatives liked her.  Many, like me would not have given McCain our attention or vote without her on the ticket.  You just hang onto 'the slip up waiting to happen' Biden, and watch the president keep distancing himself from him.

                I'm all about laughter, so enjoy one on me!

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                • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 29, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
                     

                  I'm all for Palin being the most popular governor.  Good for her.  I'm glad her constituents are getting what they want.  I disagree with her wholeheartedly - and I find that she's more entertainment than substance, but I still wish her and her family well and hope she stays up in Alaska.  If the citizens of Alaska like her that much, they can keep her.

                  But, I'm sure you would vote for her too if you were receiving petroleum dividend checks from the government, as do the citizens of the great state of Alaska.  I've not heard a peep from you about that.  Isn't that Socialism?

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        • Author by IRONY 101 (January 28, 2009 12:11 pm ET)
             

          He (The Entertainer,Rush Limbaugh) speaks for conservatism, not the republican party

          Technically, true...but blantantly false in practice.

          The Entertainer, Rush Limbaugh (TERL) constantly extols the virtues of the Republican Party, although criticizing some of its political practices and decisions which don't meet his right wing conservatism test. When Hillary Clinton lost the Democratic nomination TERL spoke to Hillary's female supporters and asked them to come to the Republican Party. In 2006, TERL ADMITTED that he had been serving as as water carrier for the Republican Party. How can you possibly say TERL doesn't speak for the Republican Party?

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    • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 9:56 am ET)
         

      What is wrong with disagreeing with Obama, as Hillary Clinton said not too long ago, "I am a American and I have every right to question my government".  I agree with Rush Limbaugh, I too hope that Obama Fails, Fails at taking this country deeper into Liberalism.  I do not believe that the Government should tell us how to live our lives, what cars we can buy, what temp to keep our house, what radio shows we can listen too.  Obama has signed more Exec Orders in so few days then any of the past 7 Presidents.  (Look it up, very easy)  If any Republican President had put on his cabinet the type of backgrounds these folks have, the airwaves would be rocking and you all would be screaming outrage. When the Bush Administration was not doing what a good conservative should be doing, I call his office and my Senators daily.  Examples, Dubai Port Deal, our Countries boarder, spending money like a drunk sailor in port, and so on.  We as Americans have every right to question, criticize and comment on our government, and when we lose that, we are not long FREE.  Take all the shots you want at me, I do not care.  Stop drinking the Kool-Aid and open your eyes, Please.  This government is telling you whom to listen to and not listen too, does that not bother you?

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      • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 10:04 am ET)
           

        Who was it who used the phrase "Bush Derangement Syndrome"?  Who was it who accused those who questioned Bush's decisions and policies of being anything from naive to terrorist sympathizers?  But now it's all about freedom of expression.  We all know that we have the right to question and criticize our government, just do it honestly and responsibly.

        The government hasn't told us whom to listen to or not listen to.  Obama told lawmakers not to listen to Limbaugh's partisan rhetoric.  That's a pretty reasonable thing to say.

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 10:06 am ET)
           

        WHO is arguing that Limbaugh or anyone else doesn't have the right to question the government or it's policies? Answer: NOBODY.

        WHO is arguing that the government has the right to tell us what kind of car to drive, or what temperature to keep our homes, or what radio shows we can listen to?  Answer: NOBODY.

        WHO is "drinking the Kool-Aid?"  Markbfoot, proudconservative, etc.  Please put it down and put the straw men back in the field where they belong.  We can have an intelligent conversation about the future of our nation but only if you are willing to cut the hyperbole.

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        • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 10:45 am ET)
             

          JJ, let me help you out here, since you have such a short memory - The DCCC with it’s petition and Obama as the President of the United States ( not a private citizen anymore) told Republicans they should stop listening to something, none of his business whom I listen to on the radio. Obama just signed an Exec order allowing each state to set automobile emission guidelines, so sounds like to me they are going to tell what kind of car I can or can not drive.  Do not be so naive that you do not think these same states are not going to set guidelines on gasoline mileage, it will be next. 

          Obama on the campaign trail that we need to keep our Temp in our house at 68 degrees.  In California they are now designing a thermostat that can be controlled electronically by the state.  http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/18/california-wants-to-control-your-thermostat/

          So Yes JJ, this is coming, so I am having a reasonable conversation about what is going on in this country, I do not like government so involved in my life.  house at 68 degrees.  In California they are now designing a thermistate that can be controlled electronly by the state.  http://www.rationalmind.net/2008/01/18/california-wants-to-control-your-thermostat/

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          • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 11:00 am ET)
               

            Conservatives hate Socialism because it takes power away from the few and gives it to the many.   Under Capitalism, the few have power over the many, which Conservatives believe is the natural order of things.

            Conservatives live in horror that people will wake up and realize that Socialism WORKS. That's the basis of the Anti-Europe blathering that makes up so much of the accepted script of right-wing radio shows.  That and "Canadians hate their health care system," which is absolutely laughable- they hate it so much that they repeatedly elect candidates who promise to expand it.  Yep, that's hate all right.

            Far better to live in a "free" society where some people get health care and others do not, because our system is based on ability to pay.  Just like, at one point in our past, some kids went to school and others did not, because it was based on ability to pay.  And some people had clean water and others did not, etc. etc.

            Oh and BTW, quoting Thomas Jefferson, owner and raper of slaves, doesn't really strengthen anyone's arguments.

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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 11:56 am ET)
                 

              JJ, he now know your true colors - when can we expect to see you moving to Canada, sounds like to me you do not love the great  U.S, and it's Capitalism market.  My suggestion and sure it will make your life much easier.  MOVE. You want the same government that has screwed up our Medicare, SS, Veterans Health Care to handle yours, I do not. 

              I will quote one of this countries greatest men as long as I live.  Thank God, for Thomas Jefferson and our Founding Fathers, with out them we as a country would not have excisted. 

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              • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 12:05 pm ET)
                   

                Um, you are the one who is doing the complaining about our current government.

                Why should I move?  The Abolitionists didn't move.  The Progressives didn't move.  Supporters of Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare didn't move.  They stayed here and worked to make the US a better place.

                You are the one who doesn't like the direction we are headed in. YOU move.

                Unregulated Capitalism is not the Default mode anymore, sorry.

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              • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 28, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
                   

                JJ, he now know your true colors - when can we expect to see you moving to Canada, sounds like to me you do not love the great  U.S, and it's Capitalism market.  ...199

                So Canada doesn't have a "Capitalism market"?  Really?

                You want the same government that has screwed up our Medicare, SS, Veterans Health Care to handle yours, I do not. ...199

                So YOU want these "socialist" programs to succeed?  Really?  Then why do conservatives do so much to try and dismantle those programs?

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          • Author by snoopy (January 28, 2009 12:07 pm ET)
               

            Specifically, Obama said if the republicans won't accomplish anything if all they do is take marching orders from Rush. And quite frankly, he's right. Besides, like it or not, Obama won big time. I'm loving watching Obama play rush like a fiddle. They leaked out that rush was gonna be at that conservative press dinner and then he didn't have an invitation, rush has been whining like a hurt little child ever since. "Waaah! I didn't get invited to Obama's meeting with the conservative press!"

            Ya gotta love it.

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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2009 12:56 pm ET)
               

            I do not like government so involved in my life

            Yet you supported an administration that could (and maybe did) spy on EVERYTHING you do without you knowing it.

            Ignorance and idiocy - the hallmarks of a good republican.

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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 2:43 pm ET)
                 

              Fog, hate to disappoint you, but Bush was not great freind of mine on several issues, starting with the boarder.  Here in Texas alone and this is a quote from one of our governmental Adminstrators "They (Illegal Immigrants) are costing Texans $4 billion a year to support ... by providing them free public school, free health care, and we just happen to be incarcerating 25,000 of them in our state and county prison systems,"  If we had not spent that type of money on these individuals we could have used that for U.S. Citizen, even provide better health care to our children of the poor.  Go figure.  Since you do not know if they did or did not SPY,I would not use that as an example of why you do not like Bush, sure you can find other issues.

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              • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
                   

                Actually, all preliminary reports indicate that the Bush Administration did spy on Americans, all without a warrant.

                I'll be waiting for the day Mr. Bush takes a vacation abroad - and he's arrested by the U.N.

                He deserves nothing less than prison for what he's done to the American people, let alone citizens of other countries, like say Iraq and Afghanistan.

                And you think that's OK?  Really?  When do you begin to hold your leaders, the ones who work for you, accountable for their actions?  At what point do you decide that the leadership has gone too far?  War based on lies?  Warrantless wiretapping?  Just where do you start?

                And no, he wasn't doing this to keep us safe.  Sorry.  That doesn't fly.

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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
                 

              President Obama's economic stimulus plan would demand that every American submit to a government program for electronic medical records without a choice to opt out, and it has privacy advocates more than a little alarmed.

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              • Author by Craig (January 28, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
                   

                First, it's interesting to see that the right has rediscovered the importance of privacy. Yes, those concerns need to be addressed.

                Second, Obama's plan, once implemented, will save money and lives.

                Last, the sentence you typed should really be in quotes, since you didn't come up with it yourself.

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              • Author by onionhead (January 28, 2009 8:01 pm ET)
                   

                Yep, and that's the only the beginning.

                Next he's going to take away all our guns, then he's going to force us to marry the gays.  After that, he will change the name from US to USSR and force us all to wear them furry Russian hats with the star on them. 

                Watch out! comrades.

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              • Author by Christie44 (January 29, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
                   

                My family happens to be involved with the medical community in a fairly big way right now, and I've been struck by the fact that, although modern American medicine is cutting-edge 21st-century in many ways (laser surgery is incredible!), it's medical records system, handling of prescriptions, and understanding of the side effects of drugs and their interactions are stuck somewhere back in the 1950s.  Maybe earlier.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:35 am ET)
           

        "This government is telling you whom to listen to and not listen too, does that not bother you?"

        No, because it's bullsh*t.... existing only in your paranoid mind.

        Unless you can provide a quote from some government official telling us we can't listen to Rush....

        I'll wait while you Google.

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        • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 10:40 am ET)
             

          Nerzog, the RadioRight have been playing the part of victims which they seem to always call out. Now, they are being called out. Watch them cower into the corner of childlike behavior. Nobody loves me...they want to take my microphone away...why did we lose? I've used this many times but the bumper music for all of their shows should be "CRY ME A RIVER".

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          • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:45 am ET)
               

            I guess it's the same when our whiney conservative friends here claim that they're being "censored" when we point out the giant holes in their "logic".

            I guess the Talk Radio Troglodytes got so used to spouting their poison without challenge for so long, they don't know what to do when someone points out that they're nothing but overpaid liars.

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          • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 11:15 am ET)
               

            Prince, you very wrong, we do not cower like a leftwingers, we stand up for our rights.  You only call us out because you are afraid of what we stand for, and what we stand against.  You all preach everyday about tolerance but you have none for others.  I accept your opinions and even accept your thoughts, but does not mean I have to accept them, but I do accept you have the right to say them.  Much like Rush Limbaugh, you may think he is the most evil man on the earth, if he is, fine.  So act upon your freedom to turn the channel, listen to someone that has your same opinion in life.  I used to come here and just read, so I would understand the other side, and learned very, very quickly you have not tolerance for anyone except those that think the same as you.  I have never called anyone a liar, or a fraud here.  I may say your wrong and will always back that up with facts. 

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            • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 11:26 am ET)
                 

              Lest we forget.. Liberals have been call UnAmerican, not patriotic, hoping our soldiers die in wars to win elections by these so-called fair minded people and you and the Republican/Conservatives just sat back and watched this hate. Don't lecture me about cowering. Where was the RIGHT when Cheney and the boys rolled out the marching orders? Did it question their supreme leaders? NO.

              I do not think Rush is the most evil man on earth. I cannot understand why people need him to speak for them. Markbfoot, we may go back and forth but I do not believe anyone here really hates you...you make many reasonable points. 

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              • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2009 11:44 am ET)
                   

                Don't forget they called us liberal vermin, I know it was always one of your favorites, Prince.

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                • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 6:20 pm ET)
                     

                  Thanx King....Being called Vermin again warms Royal my heart. (Check out the weather around Pittsburgh)

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              • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 11:56 am ET)
                   

                Prince, thanks for the honest debate as well.

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              • Author by wookie (January 28, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
                   

                >>I do not think Rush is the most evil man on earth.

                That's just right wing hyperbole to make him and his followers victims. And distract from actual issues.

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            • Author by ultrasanktpauli (January 28, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
                 

              dude, your almost total inability to communicate with the written word is forcing me to work too hard. i must now stop reading the comments.

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        • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 11:05 am ET)
             

          Nerzog this is a simple answer “FAIRNESS DOCTRINE’.   With most folks I would stop there, but since all the liberals here will not except an Opinion of a conservative, (tolerance of the left) we are ask for proof.  Once I make a comment or opinion I have to back up with examples from other locations, so yes, I have a brain and know how to use a search engine like goggle, to help your simple minds grasp these subjects.  So now, how about you take the time to learn about the Fairness Doctrine, you my expand your simple mind on what our Government would like to do with the Radio Airwave.   Here I will even give you a link to the help you find it, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine

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          • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 11:14 am ET)
               

            Did I miss something.When did they bring back the FAIRNESS DOCTRINE? Or has it returned in the minds of the persecuted RadioRighties? Oh, those BEAUTIFUL MINDS...their shows sort of remind me of that movie.

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            • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 11:25 am ET)
                 

              I gave you an example for this statement above "Unless you can provide a quote from some government official"  So let me use a quote from one of your top leaders.  On June 24, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) Asked about the Fairness Doctrine by Human Events newspaper, Pelosi said, “yes,” she supported reinstating it. Wait there is more - June 2007, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said: “I think the Fairness Doctrine ought to be there, and I also think the equal time doctrine ought to come back.  Prince there are two quotes for you, again showing you do not accept opinons, and alway want us to prove you. 

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              • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 11:27 am ET)
                   

                And many Republicans want wars to last forever..talk is cheap. Where is the paperwork to have the Fairness Doctrine brought back? When it appears, both sides will fight it..especially here.

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              • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
                   

                Here's a little quote from the link YOU provided:

                "The doctrine did not require equal time for opposing views but required that contrasting viewpoints be presented."

                Oh, the humanity!  How could we ever survive such TYRANNY?

                Well, Rush probably couldn't.... that's why he never has guests and screens his calls so carefully... he knows he'd never survive the challenge.

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              • Author by pete592 (January 28, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
                   

                "So let me use a quote from one of your top leaders." 

                You can stop hyperventilating now, Mark.

                Until they actually bring the Fairness Doctrine to the floor, you can pretty much sum this up as two lawmakers responding to questions about the Fairness Doctrine.  Another one of “our top leaders,” Barack Obama, is not in favor of it.  It is not as popular on the political left as you are being led to believe.  What you are hearing is professional right-wing liars freaking out about it and martyring themselves because of the election results.  I’m going out on a limb and predicting that the FD will never come to the House floor, even if it does, and even if it passes both houses, it still has to get past the desk of a president who is not in favor of it.

                I don’t know of one single lefty radio talker who is in favor of the Fairness Doctrine.  I have heard three of the most prominent ones, Thom Hartmann, Ed Schultz and Randi Rhodes, all routinely speaking out against it.  They don't want to be subject to it any more than the professional right-wing liars do.  In addition, they are all smart enough to recognize that the Fairness Doctrine does absolutely nothing about the current FCC licensing and ownership oligopoly that flanks radio markets with professional right-wing liars.

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                • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
                     

                  Pete, I am having more fun today then I have had in a long time, laughing at individuals like yourself.   Hyperventilating only from lack of air from laughing.

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          • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
               

            Nice try, but the Fairness Doctrine wouldn't tell anyone what they can and cannot listen to, which is what you stated above.

            I'm waiting for a citation of a government official telling me I can't listen to Rush.

            Got any?

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            • Author by pete592 (January 28, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
                 

              I guess not, he's busy suffering from a lack of air after reading my comedic post.

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      • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 28, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
           

        What is wrong with disagreeing with Obama, as Hillary Clinton said not too long ago, "I am a American and I have every right to question my government". 

        I don't believe anyone is taking away your right to disagree with Obama, but at least tell the truth when disagreeing. Since he's only been in office, you can disagree with what's he's previously said, but until he actually DOES something, you just whinning and it's painful to hear.

        The problem with folks like Rush wanting Obama to fail, is he's talking out of his a**. He's spent the last 6 years telling liberals and Democrats that because we oppose the Iraq war, tax cuts for the wealthy, corporations paying NO taxes, we hate our country and we wanted President Bush to fail. He wasn't alone in his criticism, a lot of right wing talk radio took their cues from Rush. If there was any disagreement with ANY Republican policy, we were UN-American, we didn't love our country and of course, we hated Bush.

        You don't like Obama FINE! SAY THAT! Stop this ongoing going code word bullsh*t because nobody's buying that crap.

        This country is in a mess and it d*mn sure isn't because of "liberalism"! Republican controlled EACH and EVERY branch of government for 6 of the last 8 years! They had enough power to change ANYTHING they wanted, but they did NOTHING!

        Own up to YOUR failures and STOP this insane whinning about liberals, we JUST took office and we haven't had a chance to sc*ew up as bad as Republicans have!

        I do not believe that the Government should tell us how to live our lives, what cars we can buy, what temp to keep our house, what radio shows we can listen too. 

        Tell the freaking truth! NO ONE has told you any of that and YOU know it!

        Obama has signed more Exec Orders in so few days then any of the past 7 Presidents.  (Look it up, very easy)

        You will also want to take a look at all of Bush's executive orders, before spouting that crap! http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/wbush-subjects.html

        If any Republican President had put on his cabinet the type of backgrounds these folks have, the airwaves would be rocking and you all would be screaming outrage.

        Are YOU smoking crack? "Heck of a good job" FEMA's Brownie?  Attorney General Gonzales? Harriet Miers for Supreme Court? SEC Chairman Christopher Cox? Frequent filer, never accomplished anything Secretary of State Condi Rice? Donald Rumsfied? World Bank Paul Wolfowitz?

        When the Bush Administration was not doing what a good conservative should be doing, I call his office and my Senators daily.

        Then you must have a high phone bill! Since the last 8 years have been a disaster for "conservatives", you must have made a phone call EVERY day! 

        Obama has been in office for less than 2 weeks! He hasn't started any wars, nor has he bankrupted the country. He IS however, trying to clean up the mess left by 8 years of so called "conservatism".

        To quote a famous conservative, "character counts!". Get some! Stop blaming "liberals" for the failures of conservatives! Republicans have controlled Congress from 1994 to 2006! Congress makes and passes laws, so THAT is where YOUR complaints should be directed! 

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        • Author by congero6189599 (January 28, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
             

          Pearlene your a GEM!!!

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        • Author by juliajayne (January 28, 2009 2:50 pm ET)
             

          I still say Pearlene for President. But I guess that Obama fella will do ;-)

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        • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 5:16 pm ET)
             

          P.Scott - You have so many I will start at the top.

          - Rush wants Obama to fail at Socialism/ Liberalism, if he takes our country down that course. That was the context in which Rush was speaking listen to the WHOLE story.

          I DO NOT LIKE OBAMA - Been saying it for month, but TYPED it for you P.S.

          The country seemed to be in the right direction until 2 yrs ago, seems to me when we headed south was the same time the Dems took over the House and Senate.

          Again, my point was I DO NOT WANT, which means, based on past issues, they could!!!!!!!!!!  I gave you examples.

          Bush did not sign 5 Exec orders in such a short period, that was the point, you must have missed.

          Listing the Cabinet individuals you put on your list, do not see any that had broken the law prior to being put on the cabinet.  Like your Tax Dodger and Harassing Socialist (Browner)

          It is free to call your local rep!  Try it!

          Obama has been in office and in 5 days is ready to have a economic stimulus package of $900 billion .  Dang even your Evil Bush did not do that do that much damage in two weeks.

          Have a wonderful day.

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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2009 5:40 pm ET)
               

            The country seemed to be in the right direction until 2 yrs ago

            So you think that *whammo" we all of a sudden had an economic crisis?  This was brewing for years because the repugs based their economic policies on borrowing and spending.  Eventually the bill has to be paid. (And that's on top of billions a month flushed down the crapper in Iraq) Bush's house of cards eventually collapsed, and now the Dem's have to clean up the mess.

            Bush did not sign 5 Exec orders in such a short period

            But he did use more signing statements than all other presidents COMBINED basically saying he is above the law.  Agree with that?

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            • Author by friedbergboy1422 (January 28, 2009 7:20 pm ET)
                 

              So, according to you, Mark, all the ills came when the Dems came to power in the Senate, correct?  Did all of the policies of the Bush administration/Congress cease to have any effectiveness in 2007?

              All of the bad mortgages that were entered into, in your mind, were not entered into until after 2007?

              There are so many other examples, I can't count them, but are you seriously making an assertion that there was no build up to the economic crisis and it just happened?

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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 29, 2009 3:28 am ET)
               

            Rush wants Obama to fail at Socialism/ Liberalism, if he takes our country down that course. That was the context in which Rush was speaking listen to the WHOLE story.

            At the time Rush made his "I hope Obama fails" comment, Obama WASN'T EVEN PRESIDENT! Rush had NO idea what kind of president Obama would be. He was asked to explain his opposition to Obama in 400 words but HE choose to simply reply:

            On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “

            I disagree fervently

            with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’”

            any modern President; in March 2006 Bush set a 200-year veto record. Source: US Senate.

            And YOU have the audacity to blame the Dems?

            Now I'll be the first one to say the Dems have failures, but Republicans had TOTAL control of government for 6 of the last 8 years!

            It's like the housing crisis. Republicans were well aware of the problem and promised to pass legislation, but their promises weren't worth the breath it took to lie! To hear you Republicans talk, the housing crisis is all the fault of Fannie and Freddie, but somehow you've had a brain freeze when it comes to Citicorp, Bank of America, Countrywide, Washington, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan Chase and all the other Wall Street firms who took advantage of home buyers.

            Bush did not sign 5 Exec orders in such a short period, that was the point, you must have missed.

            There wasn't a SINGLE bill passed that Bush didn't add his signing statement, allowing him to totally ignore the law he just signed. THAT was MY point!

            Obama's executive orders were requested by the majority of the American people who elected him to do exactly what he did. The majority of the country was sick and tired of Republicans, Bush and their incompetency and they gave Obama a mandate to make changes.

            Listing the Cabinet individuals you put on your list, do not see any that had broken the law prior to being put on the cabinet. Like your Tax Dodger and Harassing Socialist (Browner)

            Please don't waste my time with this juvenile bull!

            This country is in serious trouble and the cause is laid at the feet of the party that has controlled the government for 6 of the last 8 years. The party that has controlled Congress from 1994 until 2006.

            Own up to the fact that Republicans have screwed this country up! Stop trying to blame Obama when he hasn't been in office for a month! Stop the whine about Bush not being a conservative, and Republicans not holding to their "core values". YOU voted for Bush and all of the other Republicans, TWICE and you're STILL defending them!

            It is free to call your local rep! Try it!

            I prefer to e-mail my representatives. As you can see, I have an opinion and I'm more than willing to take the time to express it.

            Obama has been in office and in 5 days is ready to have a economic stimulus package of $900 billion . Dang even your Evil Bush did not do that do that much damage in two weeks

            In case you missed it:

            In December, the number of unemployed persons increased by 632,000 to 11.1 mil- lion and the unemployment rate rose to 7.2 percent. Since the start of the reces- sion in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has grown by 3.6 million, and the unemployment rate has risen by 2.3 percentage points.

            http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

            The number of foreclosures soared in 2007, with 405,000 households losing their home, according to a report released Tuesday. That's up 51 percent from the 268,532 homes that were repossessed in 2006.

            Total foreclosure filings soared 97% in December alone compared with December of 2006, according to RealtyTrac, an online seller of foreclosure properties. For the year, total filings - which include default notices, auction sale notices and bank repossessions - grew 75%.

            More than 1 percent of all U.S. households were in some stage of foreclosure during 2007, up from 0.58 percent the year before

            Now we've been cutting taxes to "give people more of their own money", but if you don't have a JOB, you can't expect to get ANY of your money back. IF you don't have a JOB, you can't may your mortgage.

            And for the last 8 years, we've been cutting taxes for corporations, so that they can hire more workers, but on January 27, 209, 55,000 workers lost their JOBS. That's just ONE day!

            There hasn't been a president in the history of this country who's been left with the mess George Bush and the Republicans left Obama with.

            Instead of giving banks more money, the stimulus package will allow states to continue to pay unemployment to workers due to the Bush economy. Medicaid will be available to workers who can't afford the outrageous COBRA health insurance, due to losing their health coverage, after losing their jobs, thanks to George Bush.

            This isn't a "stimulus" package, it's a solution for a country that's on life support. And thanks to Bush and the Republicans, it's STILL not enough.

            Now you have a wonderful Friday!

            It's typical tacky Rush.

            I suppose he was talking about Socialism/ Liberalism when he said this:

            "We're witnessing racism all this week that led up to the inauguration. We're being told that we have to hope he succeeds. That we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend forward, backward, whichever. Because his father was black, because this is the first black president."

            Try that 'liberalism' crap somewhere else. He stated, clearly, HE hopes Obama fails and for more reasons than he's a liberal.

            Rush doesn't do nuance, just trash talk designed to feed the rabid folks who listen to his show.

            I DO NOT LIKE OBAMA - Been saying it for month, but TYPED it for you P.S.

            Thanks, I thought your complaints had very little to do with facts.

            The country seemed to be in the right direction until 2 yrs ago, seems to me when we headed south was the same time the Dems took over the House and Senate.

            I bet if you asked those folks who invested with Bernie Madoff, 2 years ago, if they were happy, they'd tell you Bernie was a great investment guy and a fine humanitarian.

            It's called a Ponzi scheme.

            You don't create a single NEW industry, so when you build your economy on minimum wage, customer service jobs, that rely on folks having money to spend, the house of cards falls down. When you FAIL to address the adjustable mortgage crisis in 2005, while controlling EVERY branch of government, the house of cards falls down! When you spend money like a drunk sailor, on shore leave for 24 hours AND give tax breaks to the wealthy, while consumers prices go up and up, THE HOUSE OF CARDS FALLS DOWN! When you spend $177 MILLION per day for a war of choice, YOUR ECONOMY FAILS!

            How you can blame the Democratic congress shows a total lack of ANY common sense. Only one Presidential veto occurred before Democrats took control of Congress in January 2007. This is the fewest Presidential vetoes of

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            • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 29, 2009 3:37 am ET)
                 

              Sorry, that didn't format right. I'll try again.

              Rush wants Obama to fail at Socialism/ Liberalism, if he takes our country down that course. That was the context in which Rush was speaking listen to the WHOLE story.

              At the time Rush made his "I hope Obama fails" comment, Obama WASN'T EVEN PRESIDENT! Rush had NO idea what kind of president Obama would be. He was asked to explain his opposition to Obama in 400 words but HE choose to simply reply:

              On his radio show last Friday, Limbaugh said, “

              I disagree fervently

              with the people on our [Republican] side of the aisle who have caved and who say, ‘Well, I hope he succeeds.’”

              Limbaugh told his listeners that he was asked by “a major American print publication” to offer a 400-word statement explaining his “hope for the Obama presidency.” He responded:

              So I’m thinking of replying to the guy, “Okay, I’ll send you a response, but I don’t need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails.”

              It's typical tacky Rush.

              I suppose he was talking about Socialism/ Liberalism when he said this:

              "We're witnessing racism all this week that led up to the inauguration. We're being told that we have to hope he succeeds. That we have to bend over, grab the ankles, bend forward, backward, whichever. Because his father was black, because this is the first black president."

              Try that 'liberalism' crap somewhere else. He stated, clearly, HE hopes Obama fails and for more reasons than he's a liberal.

              Rush doesn't do nuance, just trash talk designed to feed the rabid folks who listen to his show.

              I DO NOT LIKE OBAMA - Been saying it for month, but TYPED it for you P.S.

              Thanks, I thought your complaints had very little to do with facts.

              The country seemed to be in the right direction until 2 yrs ago, seems to me when we headed south was the same time the Dems took over the House and Senate.

              I bet if you asked those folks who invested with Bernie Madoff, 2 years ago, if they were happy, they'd tell you Bernie was a great investment guy and a fine humanitarian.

              It's called a Ponzi scheme.

              You don't create a single NEW industry, so when you build your economy on minimum wage, customer service jobs, that rely on folks having money to spend, the house of cards falls down. When you FAIL to address the adjustable mortgage crisis in 2005, while controlling EVERY branch of government, the house of cards falls down! When you spend money like a drunk sailor, on shore leave for 24 hours AND give tax breaks to the wealthy, while consumers prices go up and up, THE HOUSE OF CARDS FALLS DOWN! When you spend $177 MILLION per day for a war of choice, YOUR ECONOMY FAILS!

              How you can blame the Democratic congress shows a total lack of ANY common sense. Only one Presidential veto occurred before Democrats took control of Congress in January 2007. This is the fewest Presidential vetoes of

              any modern President; in March 2006 Bush set a 200-year veto record. Source: US Senate

              And YOU have the audacity to blame the Dems?

              Now the Dems are not without fault, but you can't escape the fact that Republicans controlled EVERY branch of government for 6 of the last 8 years!

              It's like the housing crisis. Republicans were well aware of the problem and promised to pass legislation, but their promises weren't worth the breath it took to utter that lie! To hear you Republicans talk, the housing crisis is all the fault of Fannie and Freddie, but somehow you've all had a brain freeze when it comes to Citicorp, Bank of America, Countrywide, Washington, Lehman Brothers, Merrill Lynch, JP Morgan Chase and all the other Wall Street firms who took advantage of home buyers.

              Bush did not sign 5 Exec orders in such a short period, that was the point, you must have missed.

              There wasn't a SINGLE bill passed that Bush didn't add his signing statement, allowing him to totally ignore the law he just signed. THAT was MY point!

              Obama's executive orders were requested by the majority of the American people who elected him to do exactly what he did. The majority of the country was sick and tired of Republicans, Bush and their incompetency and they gave Obama a mandate to make changes.

              Listing the Cabinet individuals you put on your list, do not see any that had broken the law prior to being put on the cabinet. Like your Tax Dodger and Harassing Socialist (Browner)

              Please don't waste my time with this juvenile bull!

              This country is in serious trouble and the cause is laid at the feet of the party that has controlled the government for 6 of the last 8 years. The party that has controlled Congress from 1994 until 2006.

              Own up to the fact that Republicans have screwed this country up! Stop trying to blame Obama when he hasn't been in office for a month! Stop the whine about Bush not being a conservative, and Republicans not holding to their "core values". YOU voted for Bush and all of the other Republicans, TWICE and you're STILL defending them!

              It is free to call your local rep! Try it!

              I prefer to e-mail my representatives. As you can see, I have an opinion and I'm more than willing to take the time to express it.

              Obama has been in office and in 5 days is ready to have a economic stimulus package of $900 billion . Dang even your Evil Bush did not do that do that much damage in two weeks

              In case you missed it:

              In December, the number of unemployed persons increased by 632,000 to 11.1 mil- lion and the unemployment rate rose to 7.2 percent. Since the start of the reces- sion in December 2007, the number of unemployed persons has grown by 3.6 million, and the unemployment rate has risen by 2.3 percentage points.

              http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm

              The number of foreclosures soared in 2007, with 405,000 households losing their home, according to a report released Tuesday. That's up 51 percent from the 268,532 homes that were repossessed in 2006.

              Total foreclosure filings soared 97% in December alone compared with December of 2006, according to RealtyTrac, an online seller of foreclosure properties. For the year, total filings - which include default notices, auction sale notices and bank repossessions - grew 75%.

              More than 1 percent of all U.S. households were in some stage of foreclosure during 2007, up from 0.58 percent the year before.

              Now we've been cutting taxes to "give people more of their own money", but if you don't have a JOB, you can't expect to get ANY of your money back. IF you don't have a JOB, you can't may your mortgage.

              And for the last 8 years, we've been cutting taxes for corporations, so that they can hire more workers, but on January 27, 209, 55,000 workers lost their JOBS.

              There hasn't been a president in the history of this country who's been left with the mess George Bush and the Republicans left Obama with. Instead of giving banks more money, the stimulus package will allow states to continue to pay unemployment to workers due to the Bush economy. Medicaid will be available to workers who can't afford the outrageous COBRA health insurance, due to losing their health coverage, after losing their jobs, thanks to George Bush. Education and infrastructure.

              This isn't a "stimulus" package, it's a solution for a country that's on life support, thanks to Bush and the Republicans.

              Now you have a wonderful Friday

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      • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 4:37 pm ET)
           

        Another bedwetting conservative who's scared of EVERYTHING.  I hope you wear diapers.

        Have you sought help for your paranoia?

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      • Author by commonsenseliberal (January 28, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
           

        Interesting that suddenly you become paranoid about losing your rights when for the past eight years you've had a president who has done nothing but trample your rights every chance he could get.

        It was people in your party who told people in my party to 'shut up' when we questioned Bush's policies.  It was people in your party who called people in my party unpatriotic when we questioned Bush's motives.

        Nobody is telling you what to do or who to listen to.  If you think so, you need to work on your listening comprehension skills.  Take off the tin-foil hat.

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    • Author by AllanIsKing (January 28, 2009 10:12 am ET)
         
      I sent rushbo an email saying that if Obama fails then many Americans will suffer. Never got a response P.S. - I heard you can get John McCain buttons real cheap now
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    • Author by Caseysprings (January 28, 2009 10:14 am ET)
         
      This is the moment when Limbaugh reaches his pinnacle again. He was very popular with the Con base in the 90s as the voice against President Clinton, his ratings rose. The best way to combat Rush is to provide facts but the audience he caters to doesn't care about facts, they want hate toward Obama. Partisan hate and that is what we have here.
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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 10:26 am ET)
           

        Rush has jumped the shark numerous times.... his audience is just too stupid to notice.

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        • Author by WorldlyMrR (January 28, 2009 11:22 am ET)
             

          Everyone on here are like my kids.  My son always could wind up my daughter.  He was outrageous, out of line, exaggerating, etc. just like Rush Job.  When my daughter learned to ignore her brother and not react to his outrageousnous my son stopped.  MMFA giving the equivalent of 200 column inches to saying why the man is wrong, everyone on here jumping into the gutter to comment about him only serves to build him up and rally his supporters.  I say we ignore Rush Job and he goes away!

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          • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 11:30 am ET)
               

            WordlyDad, thanks for your insight on child rearing.

            P.S. Rush won't go away if left unchanneled. The devil always lurks in the shadows until his is exposed. Not to say Rush is the devil. Rush isn't smart enough, the Prince says in a childlike manner.

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          • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2009 11:41 am ET)
               

            When ignored, the response from the rabid right has always been to state that they must have the truth on their side since no one is contradicting them.

            Ignoring hatred hasn't worked. It's got to be torn out by the roots.

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          • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
               

            See, that analogy doesn't work, because your son is not being paid millions of dollars a year to irritate your daughter.

            Ignoring Rush won't make him go away as long as his GOP sugardaddies are willing to pump his pockets full of money.  He serves them very well, and they are glad to reward him for it.

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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 28, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
           

         He was very popular with the Con base in the 90s

        Sports bars where I lived at the time actually had Rush listening rooms during lunch time.  From what I saw it was mostly 50+ white males, you know, the kind that need to get their daily fix of hatred and fear.

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    • Author by newzhound (January 28, 2009 11:14 am ET)
         
      A hundred bucks says Ole BlunderRush can't bend over and grab his ankles. Another hundred says he hasn't seen his ankles in years...
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    • Author by pklute63 (January 28, 2009 11:48 am ET)
         

      How DARE this no good piece of sh*t sorry excuse for a human being compare WAR dead to layoffs!!!! This chicken sh*t never had the courage to serve this country and can sit his bloated face and fat ass behind the microphone and sprew his hatred only because REAL soldiers gave their life to give him this right. YOU are a disgusting human being Rush ...may you rot in hell!

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    • Author by markbfoot199 (January 28, 2009 11:57 am ET)
         

      You all have a good day, time for me to listen to Rush.

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      • Author by AllanIsKing (January 28, 2009 12:06 pm ET)
           

        Whatever happened to John McCain's slogan: Country First
        We cannot just let these false ideas to drive the narrative

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      • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (January 28, 2009 12:10 pm ET)
           
        Enjoy!
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      • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 12:12 pm ET)
           
        Great idea. On your break, a little music: http://www.oakton.edu/user/~billtong/bnsp/imanazi.htm
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      • Author by congero6189599 (January 29, 2009 11:43 am ET)
           

        Wow!! After the whipping you just got I think a sothing butt soak would be in order!!  Hahahaha!

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    • Author by Cheney2012 (January 28, 2009 12:19 pm ET)
         
      Media Matters did one heck of a clip job on Rush Limabaugh's "wanting Obama to fail" comments. Shades of the 'phony soldiers' phony controversy. Why does MMFA like to embarrass itself so often?? This is exactly what you accuse Rush, Bernie Goldberg and others of doing. You are pathetic hypocrites. Here is what he said on Jan. 16: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.member.html I got a request here from a major American print publication. "Dear Rush: For the Obama [Immaculate] Inauguration we are asking a handful of very prominent politicians, statesmen, scholars, businessmen, commentators, and economists to write 400 words on their hope for the Obama presidency. We would love to include you. If you could send us 400 words on your hope for the Obama presidency, we need it by Monday night, that would be ideal." Now, we're caught in this trap again. The premise is, what is your "hope." My hope, and please understand me when I say this. I disagree fervently with the people on our side of the aisle who have caved and who say, "Well, I hope he succeeds. We've got to give him a chance." Why? They didn't give Bush a chance in 2000. Before he was inaugurated the search-and-destroy mission had begun. I'm not talking about search-and-destroy, but I've been listening to Barack Obama for a year-and-a-half. I know what his politics are. I know what his plans are, as he has stated them. I don't want them to succeed. If I wanted Obama to succeed, I'd be happy the Republicans have laid down. And I would be encouraging Republicans to lay down and support him. Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work. MMFA starts here: So I'm thinking of replying to the guy, "Okay, I'll send you a response, but I don't need 400 words, I need four: I hope he fails." (interruption) What are you laughing at? See, here's the point. Everybody thinks it's outrageous to say. Look, even my staff, "Oh, you can't do that." Why not? Why is it any different, what's new, what is unfair about my saying I hope liberalism fails? Liberalism is our problem. Liberalism is what's gotten us dangerously close to the precipice here. Why do I want more of it? (MMFA ends here) I don't care what the Drive-By story is. I would be honored if the Drive-By Media headlined me all day long: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it. Were the liberals out there hoping Bush succeeded or were they out there trying to destroy him before he was even inaugurated? Why do we have to play the game by their rules? Why do we have to accept the premise here that because of the historical nature of his presidency, that we want him to succeed? This is affirmative action, if we do that. We want to promote failure, we want to promote incompetence, we want to stand by and not object to what he's doing simply because of the color of his skin? Sorry. I got past the historical nature of this months ago. He is the president of the United States, he's my president, he's a human being, and his ideas and policies are what count for me, not his skin color, not his past, not whatever ties he doesn't have to being down with the struggle, all of that's irrelevant to me. We're talking about my country, the United States of America, my nieces, my nephews, your kids, your grandkids. Why in the world do we want to saddle them with more liberalism and socialism? Why would I want to do that? So I can answer it, four words, "I hope he fails." And that would be the most outrageous thing anybody in this climate could say. Shows you just how far gone we are. Well, I know, I know. I am the last man standing. I'm happy to be the last man standing. I'm honored to be the last man standing. Yeah, I'm the true maverick. I can do more than four words. I could say I hope he fails and I could do a brief explanation of why. You know, I want to win. If my party doesn't, I do. If my party has sacrificed the whole concept of victory, sorry, I'm now the Republican in name only, and they are the sellouts. I'm serious about this. Why in the world, it's what Ann Coulter was talking about, the tyranny of the majority, all these victims here, we gotta make sure the victims are finally assuaged. Well, the dirty little secret is this isn't going to assuage anybody's victim status, and the race industry isn't going to go away, and the fact that America's original sin of slavery is going to be absolved, it's not going to happen. Just isn't, folks. It's too big a business for the left to keep all those things alive that divide the people of this country into groups that are against each other. Yes, I'm fired up about this. Reasons number 249 and 50 why I'm not a Republican. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel has been chosen to introduce Vice-President-elect Biden at a bipartisan dinner in Washington on the eve of the immaculation. Biden was one of Hagel's closest friends in the Senate. "Bipartisan dinners also held that night honoring McCain and Colin Powell. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina will introduce McCain at a dinner." So all these Republicans are being honored on the night before Obama is immaculately inaugurated, as though they're part of the Obama administration. Our presidential candidate is being honored. I can understand liberals honoring their losers, but I just -- (tearing up story)
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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 28, 2009 12:27 pm ET)
           

        Gee thanks, but the added bits actually don't help him IMHO and in fact buttress MMFA's point.

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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (January 28, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
           

        Cheney2012,

        I hope you are not a paid subscriber to Mr. Limbaugh's website.  If you are, you have just disbursed premium information without his permission which would probably be illegal.

        Your context does nothing to help Rush's cause here.  He explains that he doesn't like Obama's politics and that is the reason he hopes he fails.  He blames liberalism for the ills of society and us being at the precipice.  If Rush truly believes that liberalism has gotten us to a dangerous point in our history and Obama represents that, he is hoping that Obama leads us over that precipice and fails, our country fails.  He clearly says that he wants to win as a Republican, not an American.

        Its funny listening to Rush say these things.  When Bush was elected in 2000 and 2004, I prayed that I was wrong, and not Bush.  I prayed that Bush would prove me wrong and that tax cuts would lead to more revenue.  I prayed that we would find WMD's.  I prayed that Bush was right and I was wrong about so many things.  I prayed that I was wrong about government regulation, I prayed that he would fund NCLB.  I prayed for the country, not my party or my ideas.  I want this country on the right track.  If my ideas are wrong, I hope someone else's can fix the problems.  I would never wish this country fails and I am disappointed Rush disagrees.

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        • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
             

          Well, that's what I've been saying in my posts.  Limbaugh doesn't want the stimulus plan to succeed because he's labeled it Socialist, and therefore, if it succeeds, that means Socialism suceeded. 

          And at that point, he might as well call it a career, because really, what else will he have to say?

          What Limbaugh wants is for the stimulus package to fail and for the economy to go completely into the toilet, because then he can blame the Democrats and the Republicans can return to power.  That this occurs because millions of Americans are thrown out of work and misery and deprivation stalk the land is of no moment to Limbaugh and his ilk; the suffering are just Collateral Damage.  This is the mindset of Limbaugh and the Capitalism Is Our God crowd.  All that matters is that they get to hold on to power.  To hell with the country.

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          • Author by Brabantio (January 28, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
               

            This is exactly why I think Obama told Republicans not to listen to Limbaugh.  That's as much as "post-partisan" can mean in our system.  We'll always have disagreements, but what we should have is reasoned debate and compromise instead of blatant obstructionism and demonizing of your opponent.  We have real problems at hand, and while those tactics might be politically effective, they have a severe toll on the people.

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            • Author by Craig (January 28, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
                 

              Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), yesterday (from Politico):

              "I mean, it's easy if you're Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh or even sometimes Newt Gingrich to stand back and throw bricks. You don't have to try to do what's best for your people and your party. You know you're just on these talk shows and you're living well and plus you stir up a bit of controversy and gin the base and that sort of that thing. But when it comes to true leadership, not that these people couldn't be or wouldn't be good leaders, they're not in that position of John Boehner or Mitch McConnell."

              Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), today (h/t Think Progress):

              “I want to express to you [Limbaugh] and all your listeners my very sincere regret for those comments I made yesterday” and “the best possible message for this country would be for every single Republican to vote against [the economy recovery package].”

              Amazing.

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              • Author by worrierking (January 28, 2009 6:50 pm ET)
                   

                I think the congressman must have slept with one of these under his bed last night.

                http://dianemapes.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/bodysnatchers.png

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          • Author by Soldier1 (January 28, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
               

            SOCIALISM DOESN'T WORK!!!  ie...China, USSR, Cuba, Venuzula anyone lasted 200 yrs yet.   Michael Savage is right there is a "Enemy Within" 

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            • Author by mary59 (January 29, 2009 11:21 am ET)
                 
              What's happening in those countries is that someone...or group has seized power and rules in a dictatorial fashion. Sort of like Bush/Cheney would have enjoyed if they could have gotten away with it. European countries have what's called "democratic socialism" and it's working quite well for them. No system is perfect until we have perfect people.
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              • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 29, 2009 11:41 am ET)
                   

                Not to nitpick, but your description would not include Venuzula as Hugo has been freely elected sevreal times.

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        • Author by magnolialover (January 28, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
             

          I didn't pray for Bush, but I did sincerly hope that he was right, and I was wrong. Turns out, I was right (along with a host of other folks), and he was really super duper wrong about a lot of things.

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        • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
             

          Waitaminnit.... you mean Bush's tax cuts didn't lead to a booming economy and create 20 million jobs?  But the Republicans keep telling us that tax cuts are the only proven stimulus.  They wouldn't....LIE..... would they?

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 28, 2009 12:21 pm ET)
         

      This is what EL FLUSHBO lives for. HE  sees himself as the DEFENDER OF THE CONSERVATIVE CAUSE . He will say anything,lie,  half truth , slander, demigog, anyone who he believes is not in line with his  warped thinking. He will never believe that it was his CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGY (government hands off of business, no regulations on business, help the rich get richer and maybe wealth will trickel down to the lower classes, use military force first in any foerigne polocy crisis) has led to the trouble we are in now.The sad thing is is that there are thousands of people out there who hang on his every word and wont do simple rescerch to see how wrong he really is.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 2:05 pm ET)
           

        Rush Limbaugh is, essentially Archie Bunker on the radio.  The problem is that Rush's audience doesn't seem to realize that Archie Bunker was a caricature, not a role model.

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    • Author by moe (January 28, 2009 1:04 pm ET)
         

      I hope he remains the voice of conservatism for a long time.  But for all you ditto-heads, understand that Limbaugh is in no way a Bill Buckley conservative who by the way was / is his hero.  In fact I submit to you that Buckley would have found Limbaugh something of a useful idiot.

      Limbaugh, having an advertising background is very good at bumper stickers and generalities.  He understands who his customers are and he also understands that they expect their daily helping of red meat and pithy sound bites and he is more than happy to toss them some.  He has tailored his message to them, the ditto heads because if he ever loses them he is out of business and if it means stretching the truth or telling lies - who cares, his listeners love it.

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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
           

        I've never bought into the "just an entertainer" routine.  He's a willing tool of the GOP Propaganda apparatus.  There's nothing illegal or immoral about that... but he is not harmless.  He has, at times, had great influence on the Republican base;  Newt Gingrich openly gave him credit for their takeover of the House in 1994.

        Some day, the history of talk radio will be written objectively, and it will be interesting to examine the real evolution of Rush and Troglodyte Talk Radio, i.e. who is really funding it and pulling the strings.

        Meanwhile, the Democrats are finally learning to fight back.  It's about friggin' time.

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        • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 28, 2009 7:45 pm ET)
             

          NERZOG ,You are right. I dont see LIMBAUGH as an entertainer,I see him as a PROPAGANDIST for the REPUBLICAN party, like DR JOSEF GOEBBLES was for the NAZI party.

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    • Author by mary59 (January 28, 2009 3:22 pm ET)
         
      The statement that Limbaugh is the "number one voice for conservatism" tells us all we need to know about conservatism as it's being practiced today.
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    • Author by eniobob2631 (January 28, 2009 3:31 pm ET)
         
      Limbaugh is the real life"wizard of oz"
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    • Author by perry logan (January 28, 2009 5:07 pm ET)
         

      How ironic that Rush was truly speaking for his party when he made his nasty crack.  Is there any doubt every Republican in America is praying for things to go bad?

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      • Author by nerzog (January 28, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
           

        Rush's nasty crack.

        AAAAAK!

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        • Author by ButteryPat (January 29, 2009 4:02 am ET)
             

          Hey! That's a low blow! It was a polynomial cyst! A very serious illness that kept Rush away from fighting in Viet Nam! And considering how much Rush loves our military boys and wars, I can only imagine how much it must have saddened him.

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    • Author by friedbergboy1422 (January 28, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
         
      As the self-proclaimed #1 voice for conservatism, and apparently receiving affirmation from some posters on this board, which one of you posters is going to start the Rush PAC? Personally, I think if Rush is what he claims to be, its time for a White House run, no?
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    • Author by sportsguydave (January 28, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
         

      We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles...Rush Limbaugh

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      Something the former Jeff Christie apparently has some experience with????????

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (January 28, 2009 6:49 pm ET)
         

      I think its funny that the conservatives on this thread think they are making some kind of point by poking fun at the aliases of the people they disagree with.  Another offshoot of listening to Rush, Hannity, etc. I guess- attempt to marginalize the person you are arguing with by mangling his name.

      That none of us are using our real names anyway makes it even dumber.  But please, keep it up- it does briefly hide the fact that you have absolutely nothing to say.

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      • Author by eweston8542983 (January 28, 2009 7:41 pm ET)
           

        Well on the positive side, we don't have wander far see determine what the GOP policies are from day to day. The GOP unamimously supported Rush's position on the Stimulus Bill. Can he keep those frisky boys and girls in line? Whose voice can argue with him from his party? Who can argue with him at all? He don't allow that kind of nonesense

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      • Author by princeofwheels (January 28, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
           

        jjamele2880, That's not your real name? Why didn't someone tell me not to use my real name? Thanx alot...now the Fox police know who I am. 

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    • Author by cmnjjrice9461 (January 28, 2009 10:47 pm ET)
         
      I will never forget in 1993 Rush Limbaugh playing The Jefferson's theme song "Movin' On Up" to mock Ill. Sen. Carol Mosely Braun. I'm sure his racist dittoheads thought it was funny. I can tell you that it was not. It was the typical mean-spirited garbage we have come to expect from this racist scumbag. And frankly, blowhard conservatives, in general, are not funny. They lack the intelligence to be so. I'm glad to see that the DCCC has started a petition drive to take on this bully. I'm sure he will laugh at at and get his minions to clog up the DCCC's Web site. But this man cannot be ignored any longer. I fear that his vile could motivate someone to do harm to the president and his family, or even prompt some wealthy Republican to bankroll a terrorist in an attempt to paint Obama as weak on terror.
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    • Author by Timmee (January 28, 2009 10:52 pm ET)
         

      Why do you have to look back at Stalin who practiced totalitarian communism when our mixed economy Capitalism just fell apart.

      Sure "communism" "failed" in Russia...but out "capitalism" "failed" here in America...and its more recent.

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    • Author by robrob (January 28, 2009 11:18 pm ET)
         
      All I've got to say is go ahead, make our day. Rush did all he could to demonize Clinton for eight years and he left office with a 70% approval rating. That's even with "Monicagate". What's Rush going to do for an encore?
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    • Author by tiger081096 (January 28, 2009 11:59 pm ET)
         
      Rush's "I'm not being political" line was a classic! Some of those who listened to this diatribe may remember early this decade when Rush blamed the 2001 recession on Clinton and the after-effect of his policies, and how it could not possibly be attributed to Bush beacuse his policies had not taken effect yet. Now contrast that with today; it's the "Obama stock market"... where "the financial markets are a rough predictor of future economic performance", and are "not reacting to Bush". So following Rush's logic (yeah I know, that's an oxymoron), the 2001 recession was RETROACTIVE to the Clinton administration, while today's recession is PROACTIVE to the 1 week old Obama administration, and has nothing to do with the outgoing administration. Sure Rush, nothing political about that! In another inconsistency, Rush states that the economic crisis is "gonna get WORSE!!!!! (at 13:25 of the clip). Of course, a few minutes later he's "an optomist" (16:55).
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    • Author by hm1342 (January 29, 2009 12:05 am ET)
         

        Rush Limbaugh is, above all else, a highly paid entertainer - nothing more.  His main purpose is to keep the listener entertained between commercials.  By any standard he has done an outstanding job.  He has single-handedly transformed talk radio into a viable commercial product.

        He is also a private citizen with an opinion, just like everyone else.  What he is not is a politician, bureaucrat or some other government policy-maker with the power to change things.  When people decry his lack of truthfulness they also conveniently forget the countless other sources of information out there that is biased to some point of view.  Sure Rush gets facts wrong or only cites what supports his narrative.  That same rubric applies to every other commentator, reporter, network, government agency, think tank, corporation and political party.  If Democrats (and MMFA) would stop whining about what Limbaugh or conservative talk radio says and just work on their legislative agenda things might go a lot smoother.  In case they've forgotten, the Dems control Congress and the White House - it's time that they start acting like it.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (January 29, 2009 1:37 am ET)
           

        What the Conjobs fail to realize is that the Dems ARE acting like it and would like for the sheepish Republicans in the House to vote for themselves rather than to be told how to vote. In case the Conjobs have forgotten, OBAMA won the support of the people by an impressive MANDATE(for all the Dittoheads, that is not a gay thing).  And hm1342, MMFA is not whining, it is reporting the misinformation/lies that The Entertainer Rush Limbaugh states on the public airwaves. Are you suggesting that he not be questioned when he spouts lies and hate? Are you suggesting a Fairness Doctrine on people who listen to the radio so they cannot comment? That's right, he is afraid to be questioned on any subject because EVERYONE is out to get him. Sounds a little paranoid to me.

        Rush is like a ball player..highly paid, highly skilled but his salary comes from advertisers who get their money from consumers. Therefore, the fans have a right to boo Rush when they feel he is committing an error. Do you agree?  And don't worry about the Congress, they'll act.

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        • Author by hm1342 (January 29, 2009 9:21 am ET)
             

          Thank you for the reply.  I am not advocating people not voice their disagreement.  My gut reaction is that there is too much hypocrisy from both conservatives and liberals when it comes to blasting each other in regards to who is telling "the truth". Both sides are going to do and say whatever they feel is necessary to get their point across.  I know Limbaugh, Hannity, and a host of other conservative talk show hosts are not being totally honest when they put on their talking points, but neither are the Dems and many of their supporters in the media. 

          Just take the stimulus package as an example.  I for one am not sure just exactly what is meant when the term "stimulus" is used here.  But there is surely some amount of wasteful spending involved.  But are the Dems going to admit that?  Not hardly.  Many things that should be rightly debated in a normal fiscal budget are most assuredly being stuck in this bill.  The same could be said for any tax breaks - just which economists are we supposed to listen to?  It seems to me there are enough economists in each camp to argue their points as to what constitutes the "best bang for the buck".  And the finger pointing as to who exactly is to blame for the whole mess is nauseating enough as it is.  Government keeps spending more than it takes in and then borrows and prints more money; corporations feel the need to constantly increase profits and some financial firms invent new ways to make money that are just too risky; individuals increasinly want the latest goods and services without thinking long-term.  At some point it starts coming time to pay the bill.  So what's the solution?  Apparently doing the same things we have been doing that got us here in the first place: spend, borrow and print even more money.  The stimulus package is a band-aid and does not address long-term financial stability.  Neither side sees or is willing to admit this.  In my opinion, if President Obama really wants to stress bipartisanship he personally needs to look at the 600-plus pages of the stimulus package and look at what is truly necesseary.

          Sorry for the digression but the stimulus package is symptomatic of the animosity and misinformation both the GOP and the Dems are participating in: doing and saying whatever it takes to make their own side look good and to demonize the other side.  So it's not just Limbaugh being less than honest here; it's just that he has the most coherent message for conservatives (even more than any Republican) and I am sure that ticks off both the Dems and the GOP leadership.  Thanks again for the reply!

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          • Author by princeofwheels (January 29, 2009 9:58 am ET)
               

            HM, I believe most regulars here will agree that there is misinformation on both sides. I am also sure that Media Research Center is willing to point out liberal misinformation. But over here, both sides are permited to agree disagree with some frivolity thrown in and I admit, name calling.

            The stimulous package is on its way to the Senate where it will be sliced and diced in the only place it really matters. Pres. Obama has already stated that he expects changes and alterations to be discussed and made. Hopefully, the Senate will do this without politcal grandstanding. If the Dems balked, some on the left will be upset. Same goes for the Rep. But it is my understanding that is why we elect who we elect. And what Rush doesn't care about is the majority has given a mandate to the Dems. When Bush was elected, his riff was that 'we are in cahrge now'..too bad for Rush that he cannot understand that this is our political process and it works both ways.

            Many believe that Rush is in his glory, financially that is true. As someone stated earlier, now the man and his integrity are being challanged and he cannot just laugh it off. Listening to him for the longest I have ever listened, about an hour and a half, in that time he called the President a liar, a danger to our country and kept saying that this package is all about securing vote for the Dems, nonsense..  Now how is that being a good Amircan. Yes, he can disapprove of Obama but when the far-left said these things about Bush, he called them unpatriotic and treasonous. Someone has to do something for the people and Obama seems to be trying.

            It is actually, in a strange and delightful way, watching the man behind the curtain finally being exposed BY HIMSELF. The Rushego can't take it. Just listen to the pounding on his desk. Just listen for the silly little laugh. Just listen for the inflections in his voice. Something has changed in The Entertainer side of Rush. He can see himself as the hunted and it must scare him. I want him in the forefront. I want to see Republican ELECTED officals fall at his feet. I want those officials to ask The Entertainer for his advice. Then let us hear Rush talk about the Hollywood elite haing a say with Obama. No comparison. The Democratic Party is in charge and if they really chose to take on Rush, Hannity will be the star of RightNut wing radio.

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      • Author by ButteryPat (January 29, 2009 3:55 am ET)
           

        He DOES have a lot of power, though. Not actual, set-in-stone power of course, but he's incredibly influential. I mean, Jesus, you're actually saying this after I just got done reading an article about how Phil Gingrey R-GA just made a big apology after being inundated with angry letters from conservatives when he made a fairly straightforward and simple remark about the Limbaughs and Hannitys of the country not needing to work with constituencies and consider all opinions. He has three hours a day to spout out whatever opinion he wants, and that doesn't include TV appearances. As for me, well, I'd love to get on that "legislative agenda" bit, but since neither myself nor Media Matters are elected officials, we're not able to. You know how you rambled on about how Rush Limbaugh isn't in Congress? Neither am I. One interesting thing you suggest is that none of Rush Limbaugh's untrue attacks are worth caring about because, at times, other people have done the same thing. It's great. Now Barack Obama can accuse Republicans of all being convicted rapists, and if you try to take umbrage, I'll just say "Now wait a minute. If you recall, Adlai Stevenson was once unfairly called a Communist, so you just stop whining and get back to your legislative agenda!!!"

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    • Author by obamacan (January 29, 2009 12:33 am ET)
         

      Conservative. You are such a jerk!  I listened to Rush for 30 min yesterday.  The liar was saying "don't think about $1.2M for an office renovation" (for a company YOUR tax dollars had to bail out! "don't worry about private jets"  "if we don't pay these executives what they earned fairly they may not hire as many people"  etc etc etc AND MOST IMPORTANTLY "the 40,000 jobs lost were from the OBAMA ECONOMY"  REALLY?  so we blame Obama for the economy that was set up by Congress since the end of the Clinton Administration??  IF RUSH is YOUR conservative spokesperson - you are just stupid.  I don't agree with George Will, but at least he is smart.  Rush is just a charletan and anyone who believes him is just stupid.

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      • Author by Christie44 (January 29, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
           

        No, no, wait, you don't get it.  See, any and all problems with the economy during the years 2001 to 2006 were Bill Clinton's fault.  Any and all problems with the economy during 2007 and 2008 were Bill Clinton's AND the teeny-tiny-majority Democratic Congress' fault, and any and all problems with the economy from November 2008 to the present are the fault of Bill Clinton, the 2007 and 2008 Democratic-by-a-sliver Democratic Congress, AND, Barack Obama.  Hold on a minute, you say, what about the Republicans, those "responsiblity" folks and the ones with all the wonderful ideas about how things should work, you know, the ones who controlled both the presidency and Congress for six long years?  Well, doncha know?  Nothing is ever, ever their fault.  IT JUST ISN'T EVER THEIR FAULT.  Well, maybe, it is if they're acting too much like Democrats!  Like, you know, all those Democrats who really believe that cutting taxes in wartime is, well, just the best ever thing since sliced bread!  Sure, you remember, how the Democrats really pushed for cutting taxes in wartime (so Rush could have more money to buy, well, whatever it is he buys with his millions while everyone else could have a couple hundred bucks to spend) while Bush and the Republican members of Congress bravely stood up to them, proclaiming loudly, "no, we must support our troops; we must make sure they have the best equipment available to protect them in this perilous (illegal but nevertheless perilous) endeavor we are sending them on; we must make sure we have money so that any who are injured in this illegal but perilous endeavor get the best medical care possible upon their return to our shores; and, yes, we must have funds so that, as we did for the veterans of WW II, we'll be able to help those who have served honorably afford to get a college education upon their return.  But, alas, the honorable Republicans who controlled Congress could not stand up against the minority party and caved in to their demands for cutting taxes and George Bush, the man specially chosen of God for this perilous time in our nation's history also caved and cravenly failed to veto that tax-cutting bill.

        Uh, what's that you say, I've got it all wrong?  That's not the way it happened?  Perhaps not.  But is it any more of a bizarre rendering of reality than the tall tales that Rush spins out constantly for his deluded followers?  I think not!

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    • Author by swift (January 29, 2009 9:11 am ET)
         

      I remember listening to Limbaugh very well in the fall of 1992. "Day One, America Held Hostage," was his refrain. The conservative media geared up and coated the wheels of the Clinton administration with grease. Clinton had no honeymoon at all, just one ambush after another. And the press joined in. "What aout Limbaugh?" I shoulted. The press was echoing his lines without ever acknowledging it. The New York Times was running the ine idiotic Whitewater series, the scandal made up by the right that was no scandal.

      The contrast, 16 years later, is dramatic.Obama calls Limbaugh out early on. His backers start taking on the conservatives on right away. There's not going to be any 1994 ub 2010.

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    • Author by anyfreedomleft (January 29, 2009 10:20 am ET)
         

      Interesting statement I found:

      The concept that communism is a new world of liberalism is false, a trap used to catch noncommunists. The word "liberal" has a fine, upright meaning and is symbolic of a great historic tradition. That is why the communists appropriate the term for their own use.

      Communism is the very opposite of liberalism. Liberalism means increased rights for the citizen; a curb on the powers of the central government; freedom of speech, religion, and the press. Communism means fewer and fewer rights for the private citizen, curtailment of freedom of speech and press and worship of God. The state becomes all-powerful, the absolute reverse of American tradition.

      Make no, mistake, communists do not like liberalism; that is, the genuine liberalism of Western civilization. They denounce liberals ("liberal blockheads" Lenin called them) and attempt by every means to destroy them. The communists realize that true liberalism is a bitter enemy, a fighter for the things that communism opposes.

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      My statement:
      Damn, that guy sure wrote a statement which would blow a ReRushican's argument about the "liberals are commies" out of the water.

      Who was that liberal guy?

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      Well, I found this book . . . Masters of Deceit . . . page 90 . . . published first in 1958 . . . my copy from 1968 . . . the author - J. Edgar Hoover . . .

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    • Author by Christie44 (January 29, 2009 3:01 pm ET)
         

      Right, no self-interest here, folks.  Let's see--cut taxes and how much more of that be-yoo-ti-full $400 million does Rush get to keep?  So nice of him to want to contribute to our nation's defense, rebuilding of infrastructure, education, health care, police, security, etc., by making sure that taxes get cut and, as day follows night, Rush will be richer than ever (in terms of good old money--don't know about his spirit).  And then how much more will all the workers who have been laid off and can't find a new job get to keep out of their unemployment checks?  As for the people who are out of work, can't find a new job (kinda difficult to do when layoffs are happening all around you), and have exhausted their unemployment, how much more do they get to keep?  Uh, what's that I hear?  Nothing?  Oops, yeah, nothing!  Remember anything multiplied by zero is, well, zero.  Okay, that takes one player out of the game:  who's the big winner here between the other two players?  Rush or the American workers who are collecting unemployment and those who have been forced to take part-time jobs or jobs that pay less than their old ones because that's all there is?  And the winner is--ding, ding, ding, why it's Rush Limbaugh!!!!!!  Let's all give a cheer for the guy who's telling us that the way to go is to cut HIS taxes!  A-yup, he'll make out like a bandit (pardon the expression) and all the good folks here who are so noble and fiscally conservative and who have fallen for his lies will make out like, uhm, uh, the suckers that they are.  Unfortunately, so will everyone else if he gets his wish for the failure of Obama's plan.  Wow, whatta guy!

      Now, what was that about "you can fool some of the people all of the time,...?"  Sounds like whoever said that had Rush's true believers in mind!  Yee haw!

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    • Author by Looking Forward (January 29, 2009 5:27 pm ET)
         

      This was my letter to the Graet American Rush Limbaugh

      I saw that Rush Limbaugh has said he hopes President Obama Fails
      My Question to the Village Idiot aka Rush Limbaugh) is,

      Do you want America to fail?
      Do you hope that there are 100’s of millions of people out of work and homeless?
      Do you hope that there are terrorist acts in this country that results in hundreds of thousands or millions of people killed?

      Rush your are a “Great American” Thanks to you The Democrats will gain at least 100 more seats in the House and at least 10 more senate Seats!

      Thank you Rush for your service to the United Stares of America!

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    • Author by robrob (January 29, 2009 5:51 pm ET)
         
      "I remember listening to Limbaugh very well in the fall of 1992. "Day One, America Held Hostage," was his refrain." And despite doing all he could, eight years later Clinton leaves office with a 70% approval rating. Come on Rush - let's do it again.
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    • Author by imsupermom (January 29, 2009 6:00 pm ET)
         
      Rush is being made a target for the purpose of trying to convince America that we need the fairness doctrine. Maybe if people actually listened to him and stop taking his words out of context then they would be just a little more educated. He wants Obama to fail if he follows through on his socialistic agenda. I pray Obama fails with those ideas also. We need a president who cares about our country, not a celebrity who wants to control every aspect of a free and capitalistic society. If you want an Obama country, go and hang out with Chavez, leave America alone!!
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      • Author by ichaelma3601 (January 30, 2009 11:00 pm ET)
           

        You are absolutely right in your analysis!  For any president to go after a talk show radio host like Limbaugh in front of the press is just simply a way to grandstand in front of the public.  And, as you aluded it is simply a publicity stunt to sell the so-called "fairness doctrine".  Since there has never been a successful liberal radio personality (I wonder why) the left want to change the rules of the airwaves.

        If you don't like what Rush has to say then very simply, don't listen.   

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