Myths and falsehoods surrounding the economic recovery plan
During their coverage and discussion of the economic recovery bill supported by President Obama, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, media figures have advanced several myths and falsehoods relating to the details and effects of the plan. These myths and falsehoods include: the assertion that a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) "study" found that the majority of the money in the bill will not be spent for a year and a half; that provisions in the bill to extend food stamps and unemployment insurance payments are "not stimulus"; that President Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal policies failed to reduce unemployment during the Great Depression; that Japan's fiscal stimulus policy during the "lost decade" of the 1990s failed to help it recover from recession; that the bill would spend at least $217,000 for every job created; that the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) would receive $4.19 billion from the bill; and that former Labor Secretary and Obama adviser Robert Reich proposed white males should be excluded from jobs created by the bill.
1. CBO analysis found the majority of stimulus won't take effect for a year and a half
Several media outlets and figures, including The Washington Post, CNN White House correspondent Ed Henry, and NBC senior White House correspondent Chuck Todd, have falsely suggested that a partial CBO analysis of the economic recovery plan -- reported by the Associated Press on January 20 -- was in fact a full analysis of the bill and falsely suggested that in that analysis, the CBO found that, in the words of the Post, "the majority of the money in the Democratic plan would not get spent within the first year and a half." In fact, the CBO report the AP highlighted initially conducted only a partial analysis and therefore did not reach a conclusion with respect to "the majority of the money" in the bill. Office of Management and Budget director Peter Orszag -- who formerly headed the CBO -- stated in a January 22 letter that the analysis addressed only "a component of the economic recovery proposal" and "did not address the overall package." CBO Director Douglas W. Elmendorf also wrote in a January 26 blog post that the "preliminary estimate that has been widely cited addressed only the budgetary impacts of an earlier version of the provisions contained in Division A, at the request of the House Committee on Appropriations."
The CBO subsequently released its "Cost Estimate" of H.R. 1, an analysis of the entire recovery plan as introduced in the House of Representatives, and concluded that 64 percent of the package would be spent by the end of the fiscal year 2010: "Combining the spending and revenue effects of H.R. 1, CBO estimates that enacting the bill would increase federal budget deficits by $169 billion over the remaining months of fiscal year 2009, by $356 billion in 2010, by $174 billion in 2011, and by $816 billion over the 2009-2019 period."
2. Food stamps, unemployment payments are not stimulus
On the January 27 edition of CNN's Campbell Brown: No Bias, No Bull, host Campbell Brown and CNN chief business correspondent Ali Velshi repeatedly claimed that provisions in the economic recovery bill that extend food stamps and unemployment insurance payments are, in Velshi's words, "not stimulus." But the same day, Elmendorf stated in congressional testimony: "Transfers to persons (for example, unemployment insurance and nutrition assistance) would also have a significant impact on GDP. Because a large amount of such spending can occur quickly, transfers would have a significant impact on GDP by early 2010." Additionally, in 2008 congressional testimony, Mark Zandi -- the chief economist and co-founder of Moody's Economy.com, who was reportedly a McCain campaign economic adviser -- stated that "extending food stamps are [sic] the most effective ways to prime the economy's pump" and cited extending food stamps and unemployment insurance payments as having a greater "Fiscal Economic Bank for the Buck" than any other potential stimulus provision he analyzed, including temporary and permanent tax cuts.
3. The New Deal did not lower unemployment
During Fox News' coverage of Obama's January 20 inauguration, anchor Chris Wallace falsely claimed that "unemployment in 1937, 1938 was higher than it was in 1933." Wallace's assertion followed statements by numerous conservative media figures, who have responded to Obama's proposals for large-scale stimulus spending by denouncing Roosevelt's New Deal policies as ineffective or damaging. In fact, unemployment fell every year from 1933 until 1938, and according to several prominent economists, the unemployment rate rose in 1938 not because New Deal stimulus spending failed but, rather, because Roosevelt did not go far enough in pursuing those policies and because his attempts to balance the budget hindered recovery. In advancing the claim, some, including Washington Post columnist George Will and syndicated columnist Mona Charen, have cherry-picked data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) -- which, at the time, counted those employed by the New Deal's emergency work programs as unemployed -- to assert that the New Deal failed to reduce unemployment. After World War II, the BLS ceased counting those in work-relief programs as unemployed. But even without including "emergency" public employment under the New Deal, the unemployment rate in 1937 and 1938 did not surpass the 1933 unemployment rate, as Wallace claimed.
Additionally, contrary to the January 7 claim of Fox News' Brit Hume that "everybody agrees ... that the New Deal failed," Nobel laureate and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman has written that the New Deal produced "long-run achievements" that "remain the bedrock of our nation's economic stability" and that Roosevelt's short-term successes were constrained because "he was eager to return to conservative budget principles."
4. Fiscal stimulus in Japan failed during the "lost decade" of the 1990s
On the January 23 edition of Fox News' Hannity, host Sean Hannity joined the ranks of media figures who have cited Japanese fiscal policy in the 1990s in arguing against a large scale-stimulus plan to combat the current recession in the United States. Hannity claimed that "the Japanese economy was suffering, in the '90s, they had eight separate stimulus packages that created, in their history, massive debt. It was unprecedented. And it didn't work." However, as Media Matters documented, according to prominent economists, economic conditions were improving in Japan before the Japanese government temporarily abandoned fiscal stimulus policies in an attempt to reduce the deficit. And Krugman, for one, points to Japan's fiscal stimulus packages as having "probably prevented a weak economy from plunging into an actual depression."
Additionally, Adam Posen, deputy director of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, wrote in his September 1998 book, Restoring Japan's Economic Growth, that "the 1995 stimulus package ... did result in solid growth in 1996, demonstrating that fiscal policy does work when it is tried. As on earlier occasions in the 1990s, however, the positive response to fiscal stimulus was undercut by fiscal contraction in 1996 and 1997." Posen also testified before the U.S. House of Representatives that the Japanese government "way overstated the amount of fiscal stimulus in which they actually engaged." Other economists and media accounts of Japan's policies agree with Posen that the positive effects of the mid-decade stimulus packages in Japan were curtailed by attempts to scale back spending and increase taxes.
5. The economic recovery bill would amount to spending more than $200K per job created
Numerous media figures, including David Brooks, Larry Kudlow, Brit Hume, and George Stephanopoulos, have asserted that the proposed economic recovery bill would amount to spending at least $217,000 for every job created, echoing a January 15 "Stimulus Quick Facts" press release issued by the Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee. The release stated that "President-elect Obama has said that his proposed stimulus legislation will create or save 3 million jobs. This means that this legislation will spend about $275,000 per job. The average household income in the U.S. is $42,000 a year." But by calculating the per-job cost by dividing the estimated total cost of the recovery bill by the estimated number of jobs created -- and thus suggesting that the sole purpose of that package is to create jobs -- these media figures ignored other tangible benefits stemming from the package, such as infrastructure improvements and investments in education, health, and public safety.
Moreover, economists, including Center for Economic and Policy Research co-director Dean Baker and Nobel laureate Paul Krugman, have presented another criticism of the claim. In a January 24 post on The American Prospect's Beat the Press blog, Baker wrote: "The Republicans have become fond of saying that President Obama's stimulus package will cost $275,000 for every job created. The media have been typically derelict in simply reporting this number without making any assessment to evaluate it -- as though readers in their spare time are supposed to determine whether it is accurate or not." Baker continued:
Okay, let's do the reporters' work for them. First, where do the Republicans get this number? They divide the the $825 billion cost of the stimulus by 3 million jobs that President Obama had originally pledged.
Their arithmetic is right but both numbers are wrong. First, the projections from the Obama team is that their package will create 4 million jobs, not 3 million. Furthermore, it is important to note that this over 2 years, not one year.
The cost is also wrong, or at least misleading. If we assume that the stimulus will work as planned, then it will boost GDP by approximately 1.5 times the amount of spending or $620 billion a year. If GDP rises by this amount, then it will translate into roughly $155 billion a year in higher taxes/lower spending than if we didn't do the stimulus. This is money that should be subtracted from the cost to the taxpayers.
So, if net out the increased revenue from the growth generated by the stimulus we end up with a 2-year cost of $515 billion which will generate roughly 8 million job-years. That comes to about $65k per job year, less than one-fourth of the Republicans' number.
Similarly, in his January 25 New York Times column, Krugman wrote, "As the debate over President Obama's economic stimulus plan gets under way, one thing is certain: many of the plan's opponents aren't arguing in good faith. ... The true cost per job of the Obama plan will probably be closer to $100,000 than $275,000 -- and the net cost will be as little as $60,000 once you take into account the fact that a stronger economy means higher tax receipts."
6. $4.19 billion of stimulus "would go to" ACORN
On January 27, the San Francisco Chronicle reported the false claim -- which the Chronicle attributed to the group Americans for Limited Government -- that $4.19 billion of the economic recovery plan "would go to the liberal housing activist group ACORN." Later the same day, nationally syndicated radio host Rush Limbaugh repeated the claim: "[I]n the Obama stimulus package, $4.19 billion is going to ACORN. Obama's community organizing -- you -- would somebody tell me what the stimulus is in that?" Limbaugh continued: "Oh, it's not called 'ACORN,' it's called 'neighborhood stabilization programs.' Now, would somebody explain to me what in the name of Sam Hill ... $4.19 billion to a voter-fraud organization has to do with stimulus?"
In fact, the bill contains no language mentioning ACORN. The false claim is based on a misrepresentation of a provision that would appropriate $4,190,000,000 "for neighborhood stabilization activities related to emergency assistance for the redevelopment of abandoned and foreclosed homes as authorized under division B, title III of the Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008." The provision requires that money will be distributed through competitive processes. It states that "not less than $3,440,000,000 shall be allocated by a competition" to "States, units of general local government, and nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities." It also provides that "up to $750,000,000 shall be awarded by competition to nonprofit entities or consortia of nonprofit entities to provide community stabilization assistance."
The Chronicle's report and Limbaugh's comments echo material released by House Minority Leader John Boehner's (R-OH) office. A January 26 "fast facts" release claimed of the stimulus bill: "The legislation could open billions of taxpayer dollars to left-wing groups like the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), which has been accused of voter fraud, is reportedly under federal investigation; and played a key role in the housing meltdown." A January 23 release to which the January 26 document links stated that "the Democrats' bill makes groups like ACORN eligible for a $4.19 billion pot of money for 'neighborhood stabilization activities.' "
7. Robert Reich proposed excluding white males from recovery plan
On January 22 and January 23, Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity falsely asserted or suggested that former Labor Secretary and Obama economic adviser Robert Reich, speaking at a congressional forum, proposed that jobs created by the economic recovery package should exclude white males. In fact, while addressing concerns from women's advocacy groups and others about the composition of the proposed stimulus, Reich said then and has repeatedly stated that he favors a stimulus plan that "includ[es] women and minorities, and the long-term unemployed" in addition to skilled professionals and white male construction workers, not one that is limited to women and minorities.
During the forum, Reich stated that the jobs created should not "simply go to high-skilled people who are already professionals or to white male construction workers." Reich continued: "I have nothing against white male construction workers. I'm just saying that there are a lot of other people who have needs as well. And therefore, in my remarks I have suggested to you, and I'm certainly happy to talk about it more, ways in which the money can be -- criteria can be set so that the money does go to others: the long-term unemployed, minorities, women, people who are not necessarily construction workers or high-skilled professionals."













I think it's a little funny now that MMFA cites Zandi as an economic genius. McCain's economic plans were no good in the fall and yet now, one of his economic advisers is a genius is predicting the economic impact of certain parts of the "stimulus" plan.
I don't see Zandi cited as "an economic genius". I believe the point being made is that if one of McCain's chief advisors accepts that the food stamp and unemployment benefits will be economic stimulants, then one must question whether detractors of these provisions believe their own rhetoric. I would lean in the direction of supposing that they are trying to stop Obama from succeeding and know that they are spouting nonsense, just as you are well aware that you have posted a cute but insubtantive throw away line.
I'm just surprised MMFA would even cite Zandi. And the way they framed the discussion makes him seem like a genius, if only because he cites figures that agree with MMFAs "position'.
The framing seems pretty matter of fact to me. Maybe it just stuck to your craw that a conservative disagrees with your "position?"
Face it, ajzito nailed you on your snark.
I never realized you were conservative.
Yeah, I caught that too after I re-read what I wrote.
Maybe it just stuck to your craw that a conservative (Zandi) disagrees with your "position?"
Better?
Now, care to demonstrate how Zandi is cited in anything other than a very matter of fact way, or would you like to just admit you got zinged for your empty snark? Show me the glowing, or even slightly elevated, MMFA language that casts Zandi as an economic genius.
Look, the truth is that it's only by the President's good grace that conservatives are even given a seat at the table concerning this recovery bill. Dems could pretty much pass whatever they want, it could be stalled, though, if Republicans are united. That would just show their pettiness in my opinion.
It's ridiculous, given the Republican record on the economy that they think their opinions are relevant to real solutions. Whatever. At least Zandi isn't a total Reaganomic nitwit. I think that's all MMFA was getting at by citing him.
Not meaning to be "snarky", but what is my position? I mentioned a tax holiday the other day, Zandi gives that a 1.29, right behind spending increases. I mentioned the tax holiday only because it could be immediate, if the government desired, where most spending is going to take some time (6-18 months or more) to get off the ground, depending on what that spending is used for. I have no problem with spending on most infrastructure (roads, water/sewer systems, electrical grid), but the bid and paperwork process, even if they are designed, will take time. I would rather see extended UI benefits be applied to training/re-training. I do personally think that anyone that earns over $20 should pay income tax, even if it is a minimal amount (1-5%), get more stakeholders into the system.
I guess I gave MMFA a greater role in defining Zandi than I should have. In reading the article, I was amused that they cited him rather than their normal sources in order to make the point. Nothing against Zandi.
Setting aside for a moment that there are partisans who are prone to cherry pick isolated expenditure proposals, distort them, and pretend that the entire package is a boondoggle, I think the rush by the administration to address the economic crisis (further) exposes the incompetence of the media. It appears to me they just don't grasp the details and intricacies of the proposed economic stimulus package. I know the bill is over 600 pages long...but if the media elect to report on the package don't they owe it to the public to learn the details better? We rely on the media to educate us such that we can intelligently decide whether what we hear from each party is spin or fact. I know MMFA is a "partisan" operation insofar as its focus is directed at conservative misinformation. However, I have come to appreciate how important MMFA is with respect to informing me of misinformation or, at least, providing me with a starting point to explore facts and issues further on my own. I don't take everything I hear from the left at face value either. My point is that we need watchdog organizations such as MMFA to monitor what and how things are reported in the media incorrectly...sadly too often.
Irony, do not ever think this way - "we rely on the media to educate us" forget the media, take the time to read it yourself, you need to educate yourself. Since both sides are going to spin this, we the public need to read and call our reps to voice our opinions.
You know, when you write something like this moments after posting a bunch of cut-and-paste right wing media spin in just the way that Irony was talking about (below, and, once again, it's plagiarized), it really makes you look like a moron.
As to Point 1:
"According to Congressional Budget Office estimates, a mere $26 billion of the House stimulus bill's $355 billion in new spending would actually be spent in the current fiscal year, and just $110 billion would be spent by the end of 2010. This is highly embarrassing given that Congress's justification for passing this bill so urgently is to help the economy right now, if not sooner.
And the red Congressional faces must be very red indeed, because CBO's analysis has since vanished into thin air after having been posted early last week on the Appropriations Committee Web site. Officially, the committee says this is because the estimates have been superseded as the legislation has moved through committee. No doubt."
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123292987008414041.html
MMFA conveniently omits this from its "evidence"
Perhaps it'll show up here theres plenty of time. As the number of threads in the last few days indicate, there's a lot of conservative missinformation floating about these days. Their hiring, mybe you coulds go to work for them to help with the work load.
The CBO refferrenced is the incomplete one. The single thing pushed in the article is tax cuts. Other ways are cut down with no backing proof. Government spending has been shown to be a multiplyer of the worth of the money spent. Even conservative think tanks have supported this using food stamps as an example.
But as Paul Krugman points out in another place, the recession/depression is expected to last for at least a year or two in its present form. So spending spread out over a couple of years is exactly what is needed. putting stimulus into the economy over the next couple of year is a good thing. All the harping? Its the right wing being intentionally petty, partisan, and obsrtuctionist (sp?). They think it will get them back in the majority, and they are sorely mistaken.
Guess MMFA forgot to talke about his as well, I do not see any of these monies going toward creating jobs, or cost that could be left out of the bill for now.
WASHINGTON - Wed, Jan. 07, 2009 -- President-elect Barack Obama vowed Tuesday to bar lawmakers' pet projects from his massive economic stimulus plan and to bring unprecedented accountability to federal spending. (Change – as in changed his mind on this statement)
- $1 billion for Amtrak, the federal railroad that hasn't turned a profit in 40 years
- $400 Million - National Endowment for the Arts;
- $4.19 billion – ACORN for “neighborhood stabilization activities.”
- $650 million on top of the billions already doled out to pay for digital TV conversion coupons.
- or less than 5% of the spending in the bill, is for fixing bridges or other highway projects.
- $600 million more for the federal government to buy new cars.
- $252 billion is for income-transfer payments -- that is, not investments that arguably help everyone, but cash or benefits to individuals for doing nothing at all.
- $81 billion for Medicaid
- $20 billion for food stamps
- $54 billion will go to federal programs that the Office of Management and Budget or the Government Accountability
- $66 billion MORE – for education
- $200 Million for Repairs to National Mall ($21m for sod).
- $350,000 for an Albuquerque, N.M., fitness center
- $94 million for a parking garage at the Orange Bowl in Miami
- $3.1 million for a swimming pool in Tulsa.
- $80,000 for a tennis facility; Savannah, Georgia
- $1.5 million to reduce prostitution with education programs
- $400 million for NASA scientists to conduct climate change research.
$100 million for the Lead Hazard Reduction Program.
Really?
I checked the places you lifted the figures from and you added $350,000,000 to the amount for the NEA. The correct figure is $50,000,000 according to the wingnut sources.
If you're going to join the ranks of the cut & pasters, you should know there's another term used to describe what you do :plagiarism.
FYI, This is also going to be place within the new Stimulus Package. With our Economy in such despair, do we really have the money to take care of 20 million more individuals? I believe in allowing individuals to come to the U.S. legally, but do not let this bill be added.
(From Ron Paul Website) Harry Reid introduced 10 bills "Economis recovery and efforts to stimulate the country" well # 9 is a two page bill called " Stronger Economy, Stronger Borders Act of 2009" "S.9" boils down to " reforming and nationalizing" avenues for immigration. This will give amnesty to 20 million "illegal"!! immigrants.
If you think you've made any good points, I don't see it. That there might be money spent on things the that you dislike is very obvious.
Trains are a very efficient means of transport.
People working in the arts offend you?
No proof on the ACORN item. The leader of ACORN has made a statement on this. They sure don't see any massive amount of money coming their way from the Stimulus Bill.
Helping our population deal with the costs of a federally mandated change in communication at a rate of $40/ person hurts us how?
You don't see the wages and their disbusments into the economy from this work and the people employed, this is invisible to you?
The cars are an ongoing expense for the government. How is this different from previous costs here?
What is the overal purpose of the income-transfer payments? To end up in a tax shelter? Otherwise this money circulates in the economy.
Medicad has been shown to be a good program. Expansion is bad because?
The figures on food stamps have the approval of even conservative think tanks as being good. You disagree because?
Oversite and regulation, the lack of this has a large part in the ongoing financial meltdown. Beefing up here is somehow an error?
Investment in education is one of the most important investments that a country can make. You like an uneducated populus?
Work on the mall equals jobs. This is bad how? 200 mil outrageous somehow for this?
The next 4 for might be pork, might be good. Some details might clarify this.
An increase in the population of young women selling their bodies to survive works for you I guess.
High light on the atmospheric study money? Clarification on the issue is something you don't want now that the political appointees can't disregard and change the work of these scientists.
Increasing toxins in our envirenment is just a silly liberal thing I guess. Do you have any idea of what lead exposure does to the developing human body?
How do illegal imigrants become legal if there are no paths to do it? You want them to become legal, but refuse to allow a path for this to happen. The illegality amounts to a speeding violation. Big freaking deal?
The first statment I said was, this money is not creating jobs.
The Arts, what you are going to pay artist to paint, do we really need to buy cars rigth now? sure it could wait till we have more money in the coffers. They do not need new cars, be like the rest of us and drive your old one. Medicare, proven to be a waste of money till it is fixed. We do not to help folks get new T.V.'s, if you can not afford a T.V. then wait till you can. If you going to give out more food stamps, let make sure the can prove they are working, or looking for work. If I was given money not to work, or food stamps to get food, why look for work. You do not need more money to see where we are wasteing money, what we need to hire more accountants to do this job? We spend so much money on education now, how about we redo the education system, they need to turn to the leader of the education in D.C., she has one of the best plans I have every seen (democrate) that did not cost the district any more money. WHAT A CONCEPT. The Washington Mall can wait, we have other things in the country that could use repair, laying sod can wait. Prositution, how about we hire more cops that is a great job, we do not need an education to know that prositution is illegal. THe Lead Program is about lead paint in houses, not in the environment, go read the bill. IT is simple, this bill should only be use to create real jobs. I am ok with a bill that builds roads, buildings, technology, and bring jobs back to the U.S. NOT PORK>
Several to most involve people working, which don't.
Several new deal projects involved the production of art. Many are now considerred national treasures. I think you are concerned that an art project might involve statements that you might consider offencive. Shall you be installed as the national censor for determining what is a proper work of art?
Where I was we worked our federally suppied vechicals very hard. They wear out they meed to be replaced. If a nuclear vessel is held up in dry dock because a truck broke down. It takes time and money to remove it by alternative means. Production of vehicals pays wages.
Waiting till we have money in our coffers can mean we can wait forever.
Your information on Medicare failures will no doubt be informative and life changing.
The tv worked till the signal changed such that it works fine,but cannot display anything. Personaly mine spends most of the day off.
So if surcomestances mean you are unable to work, you starve, so your in good shape when you are able to look for work?
Over site means I'd be able to eat peanutbutter without any qualm.
Look into the daily howler for good critques on the educational system. Ask a few teachers about how their swimming in educational funds. NCLB was never fully funded. A college education is beyond the finacial means of almost all americans.
We are steadily firing law enforcement personal due to budjet cuts. Solving the problem before it become one works very well and is cheaper to society.
That lead doesn't stay on the wall forever, someone else's problem at that point I guess.
Pardon me, but you have no idea beyond hurting people you don't like or think you probably won't like as a solution. You got nada, and I'm off line for a few hours.
I have one thought on New Deal Government spending. Learn from history.
In 1929 Marginal tax was 1/2 of one percent at bottom and 24% for top incomes.
by 1935 it was 5% low to 79% at the top. Also the excemptions were lowered so more people had to pay taxes.
This caused the top income and small business to invest in swiss banks, foriegn investment, tax excempt bonds anywhere to shelter money.
This prolonged the depression because noone was creating jobs to get us out of the depression because they had to pay 79% taxes.
So in order to get more money Rossevelt had to tax the poorer people with excise tax. You know tax on liquor, tobacco, gas ect. Hence the beginning of excise tax.
Roosevelt's secretary of treasury, Henry Morganthau is quoted as saying We have tried spending money. We are spending more than we have ever spent before and it does not work. I say after eight years of this administration, we have just as much unemployment as when we started. And enormous debt to boot.
It is a fallacy to believe that when the Government spends money for programs that the money comes from independent soucers the fact is the money comes from hardworking tax payers.
I say this to make people think before you agree to this stimulus program read history not just of this country but others and you will find that the ones who pay for Government spending are you and I the taxpayer.
Governement programs not well thought out lead to greed and corruption. Do your homework. Hence Fannie and Freddie and the community reinvestment act.. and so many more......