Politico cropped Pelosi's comments on Republican participation in House bill
SUMMARY: In an article stating that the "thinnest chapter" of a book about Nancy Pelosi's term as speaker of the House might be "Bipartisanship and the 111th Congress," the Politico cropped Pelosi's statement on the passage of the House recovery bill, omitting comments supporting her statement that "we have reached out to the Republicans all along the way."
In a February 2 article stating that the "thinnest chapter" of a book about Nancy Pelosi's term as speaker of the House "just might turn out to be: 'Bipartisanship and the 111th Congress,' " the Politico cropped Pelosi's statement on the passage of the House recovery bill, omitting comments supporting her statement that "we have reached out to the Republicans all along the way."
Politico senior congressional reporters Glenn Thrush and John Bresnahan wrote:
Responding to claims that she shut Republicans out of the real decision making in the process, she shot back: "We reached out to the Republicans all along the way, and they know it. And they know it. ... They just didn't have the ideas that had the support of the majority of the people in the Congress."
However, the transcript of Pelosi's January 29 press conference shows that Politico left out the explanation Pelosi gave for her claim that "we have reached out to the Republicans all along the way." Thrush and Bresnahan excised Pelosi's statement that "[Republicans] were part of the original bill with some of the tax provisions were their suggestions. They had what they asked for in terms of committee markups. They had the vote on the floor that gave them plenty of opportunity to make change." From the transcript:
PELOSI: But we are very, very proud of the product that came out of our legislative step one and look forward to working -- we have reached out to the Republicans all along the way. And they know it. They were part of the original bill with some of the tax provisions were their suggestions. They had what they asked for in terms of committee markups. They had the vote on the floor that gave them plenty of opportunity to make change. They just didn't have the ideas that had the support of the majority of the people in the Congress.
From the Politico article:
When the book is written on Nancy Pelosi's reign as speaker of the House, the thinnest chapter just might turn out to be: "Bipartisanship and the 111th Congress."
To hear her aides and associates tell it, Pelosi entered last week on her best bipartisan behavior, hoping that billions in tax cuts would be enough to lure six to 10 Republican House members to vote for the $819 billion stimulus plan.
To Republicans, it was a typical Pelosi pose -- and they accused her of ramming one of the biggest spending bills in history down their throats while scaling back President Barack Obama's tax-cut proposal to fund 40 years' worth of liberal wish-list items.
In the end, the GOP unleashed a Rush-and-Drudge media campaign on funding for contraceptives and resodding of the National Mall tucked into the package - and Pelosi was genuinely surprised that every single Republican House member voted against it.
As a result, the speaker's public commitment to bipartisanship may quickly yield to a depressingly familiar pattern of partisan combat that comes along with her new role as Obama's human shield.
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But there were hints of pique. Pelosi cut off a reporter at her weekly press availability when asked about the role Matt Drudge and Rush Limbaugh played in her stimulus-week demonization.
"I am the speaker of the House. I don't get into that," she said, waving a dismissive hand.
"I didn't come here to be partisan, I didn't come here to be bipartisan," she added. "I came here, as did my colleagues, to be nonpartisan, to work for the American people, to do what is in their interest."
Responding to claims that she shut Republicans out of the real decision making in the process, she shot back: "We reached out to the Republicans all along the way, and they know it. And they know it. ... They just didn't have the ideas that had the support of the majority of the people in the Congress."
Now, why is it, when democrats are in control, we're supposed to be bi partisan, and yet, when the republicans were in control, it was because they won, and had a "mandate" to basically do what they wanted? How come, when we're in control, we're supposed to be bi-partisan? I don't get it. Does anyone else?
Basic Republican hypocrisy, I guess. Someone in the "Liberal Media" needs to find that clip of Rush Limbaugh telling Democrats to "Shut the hell up" until they win an election, and play it over and over and over.
magnolia...
Like nerzog.... I agree!!
Where was the 'liberal' media anger toward the Repubs when they did exactly what these clowns are accusing the Dems of doing?
Dam psycho corporate media and their talking heads... hypocrits to the very end!
I seem to recall a few hardly covered by the media stories about how the Repubs literally locked a door closed so that the Dems could not get into the Congressional chambers while the Repubs voted on stuff that they knew would never pass if the Dems or We the People knew about them...
Also, unlike any Dems that I have ever heard or seen... what also is a dam joke is that an elected Republican grovelling and begging forgiveness from Rush Limpballs... makes you wonder the media reaction if a Dems ever does that?
I wrote this in another thread today... and I'm going to keep repeating it...
Obama and the Dems....
I may be just one little guy and I can't personally speak for the nearly 70 million that voted for you...... but ------>
************** I FOR ONE... HAVE YOUR BACK!! **************
The Republicans have demonstrated again and again that they are not bipartisan despite their claims to the contrary. They voted en mass against the stimulus bill after the Democrats changed it to fit Republican demands.
IMHO, every single time this happens, the Dems should eliminate all the changes the Republicans demanded and pass the bill in its original format. Eventually, even the dumbest Republicans will realize that negotiating only works when they act in good faith.
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To Republicans, it was a typical Pelosi pose -- and they accused her of ramming one of the biggest spending bills in history down their throats while scaling back President Barack Obama's tax-cut proposal to fund 40 years' worth of liberal wish-list items. In the end, the GOP unleashed a Rush-and-Drudge media campaign on funding for contraceptives and resodding of the National Mall tucked into the package - and Pelosi was genuinely surprised that every single Republican House member voted against it."
That's right, the dem's are trying to rush this bill through at all costs. Sounds just like Bush was saying: 'we need this and we need it now'. Obama and the rest of the dems are sounding exactly like Bush/co did. Only now, the dems are whining about no support for their programs. Sorry, dems, you are in control now. Whatever happens is on you. I hope all future votes are the same way, that way everyone will know who to blame if failure happens in the democrat plan to save Averica.
Just like we know who to blame now, Phil? I think the Republicans should demand an up and down vote on the stimulus and give Obama the same respect they wanted for Bush or will the party of filibuster and obstruction rise again?
No comments on the cropped quote, Phil? It sounds pretty outrageous for Politico to do, don't you think?
Obama and the Dems did win a mandate. I love the calls of Obama being arrogant for supposedly saying "I won" to a group of Republicans. His margin of victory was far larger than the President who said:
"I earned capital in this campaign, political capital, and now I intend to spend it," Bush told reporters. "It is my style."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2004/11/05/MNGOF9MKHV1.DTL
You been smoking already, fried? The vote happened, no republican voted for it. They didn't stall or otherwise delay the democrats plan. What snide remark do you have for us now?
I didn't comment on the "cropped" quote because there is nothing to comment on. Pelosi said what she said, no matter how you crop it.
Thing is, your memory must be really short. Because when Bush said we need this, and we need it now, lots of democrats jumped on board.
It's funny you should bring up the fact that George tried to push his legislature through in a rush. I see Obama's doing the same thing. And, I see the democrats are doing the same thing again, too. Jumping on board every single issue that will pay their clients money. Personally, I like the plan to let democrats have their way. When the people see how greedy and idiotic they are, we will have another "change" in 2010.
Let's do a wing-nut test: What percentage of the stimulus package is directed toward stimulating the economy?
Philib, are you for real? Substitute right wing for democrats in your postings and you get closer to a real point.
If your only news sources are mouthpieces for ideologues, you get screwed in more ways than one. Here's an essay from the Council on Foreign Relations: http://www.cfr.org/publication/18348/ which gives a nuanced view. By redefining what is "stimulative" you can be all over the map, according to what you want to prove.
Commenting on media repeating claims that spending in the bill is not stimulus, economist and Center for Economic and Policy Research co-director Dean Baker wrote on February 3:
Thanks, Phlibber, but we already knew that Democrats will take the blame if they can't clean up George (Numbnuts) Bush's mess.
What blame will democrats expect when they take our current deficit and triple it by years end? How long are you going to hang on to your hatred of our nation and stop blaming past presidents for failures of their administration? It's time to move forward into an era of change. Where lobbyists don't get high level cabinet posts, where nominees pay taxes. An era of open-government (anyone seen the entire 257 pages of the stimulus package?).
I almost feel sorry for the Republicans, almost.
Now they're using "Joe T. Plumber as an"advisor".
“In case you weren’t planning to attend CWG tomorrow morning, you might want to reconsider because Joe the Plumber will be joining us!” Kimberly Wallner, an aide to South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, wrote in a message to her e-mail list this afternoon.
Oh, now I'm going. Who in their right mind won't get up early to go see an out of work, fake plumber give a talk about a subject he knows nothing about?
Bi-partisanship, no thanks. They're doing their best to make themselves irrelevant, they don't need help from the Democrats.
"Bi-partisan" is just one more of many words that seems to be going through a re-definition process with the new administration.You'd think the Repubs would be relieved at not being asked how to help clean up the results of their time in the driver's seat.
I think it's polite of the Dems to reach out, but the realistic and humble answer the Repubs should give is "Are you asking us? What the hell do we know, have you been paying attention for the past 8 years?"
Sam the phony plumber is the perfect symbol for today's dim-witted, ill-informed GOP.
What everyone seems to forget is the inherent dishonesty of the Democrats in calling this a "stimulus" bill.
Here's a quote from Robert J. Samuleson in Monday's WaPo.
Unfortunately, investing in tomorrow won't automatically stimulate the economy today. The $819 billion program passed by the House would only slowly provide stimulus. The Congressional Budget Office estimates that in fiscal 2009 (through this September) about 21 percent of the new spending and tax cuts would flow to the economy. For 2010, the estimate is an additional 44 percent. The total of 65 percent means that, by the CBO's estimate, about a third of the $819 billion package would be spent after fiscal 2010. That falls far short of Obama's stated goal of 75 percent in the first 18 months.
What a surprise, AA. You've copy & pasted your right wing talking points. Keep up the good work.
Indeed. And what would be the problem of helping things out down the road as well (even if this were the truth)? As in, we invest some of the money now, and if things work out, guess what? We don't need to spend it all and hence, save the tax payers some money.
Although, just about every single economist worth their salt out there says that this stimulus bill, will be just that, what are you republicans worried about? Guess what? This doesn't work out, you get to say, "We told you so..."
Spending, in this case, is stimulus.
Mags,
Sorry. You proclaiming, "just about every single economist worth their salt" as a rebuttal, (without naming one,) isn't to convincing to me, but thanks for the laugh.
Do you have anything to back up your claim that the pork spending and supposed stimulus in 2010 and 2011 and 2012 is contingent on the spending in 2009? Or is that just another one of your 'unsupported claims' that you get to make because you are a liberal? ;-)
AA, do you think that anybody here, Republicans included, thinks that you are willing or able to do anything other than spout Republican talking points?
How's this for copying and pasting?
My all time favorite Barnyism.
Posted by anotheramerican
The only play in the Democratic ticket playbook is to tie McCain to Bush. They have made no secret of this. Of course the Republicans would downplay Bush so as not to give the Democrats this line of attack.
Not being a McCain fan myself, I have grudgingly accepted the fact that his candidacy, (especially with the pure political genius selection of Palin), is the perfect GOP candidate to run in this election. There is enough difference between McCain and Bush to make the Democratic playbook ineffectual.
(It would be interesting to see how many times Bush was mentioned in conjunction with McCain at the Democratic Party Convention. )
Posted Tuesday September 9, 2008 2:19:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
I love it that he said the selection of Palin, was, "genius".
Yeah, I heard she pulled a McCain recently. Said she had inportant business to tend to in Alaske and then was seen at a posh dinner.
Har! Excellent, Worrierking. I wonder if Barney has any more "studies" in the works.
How pathetic to openly admit to falling for a political ploy like the Palin debacle. You'd think if somebody was going to give up even pretending to have principles or a concern for the country, they'd at least be able to pick a winner.
I think you are correct , sir. AA must have a boiler plate collection file in his computer where he just pulls out what he needs.
I don't think it's his computer he pulls these things from, but I could be wrong.
The Bureau of bill's Butt ?????
It's no secret, Barney openly admits to his methods. He skims over the MMFA item, and starts Googling keywords for an opposing opinion. After finding a suitably unreliable source, he pastes the entire opinion piece here. When it's pointed out it's crap, he closes with something along these lines;
"Those aren't my words, I simply posted the facts as documented by (Michelle Malkin,etc.). Great discussion, gotta run!"
and
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can't trust the media anymore. Sad state of affaris given the de facto permission given by the previous administration policies. That is why MMFA is so important to document such distortions. Certainly documents our reactions.
MMFA has the nerve to use this as a highlight, "Politico cropped Pelosi's comments on Republican participation in House bill". MMFA is the of all king of all websites at cropping comments to push an agenda.
Sir, did you read the article ?
Yes, and second note, Polosi has not reached out to Republicans, the only thing she reaches our for is $.
By the third sentence the differences are noted. the omission does change the meaning of what Pelosi said and imparts a negative view, the ultimate goal of the right wing media. When i look at the big picture i came to the conclusion misquoting and making up facts by the FOX News network is probably what pout Obama in the presidency and now the same people are licking their ears trying toi figure out what happened not realising continuance of this tactic does nothing good. And by the way, republicans don't want to be "reached out by Pelosi It is like a teenage son and his parents when confronted with peer pressure.
MMFA is the of all king of all websites at cropping comments to push an agenda (MarkBFoot)
Here's where you should post a particularly outrageous example of this, just to establish some credibility.
Careful what you wish for. Our friend Mark got his ass busted for cutting and pasting a la Barney last week.
That's the fun of it. I'm expecting a quote from Bill O'Reilly saying that MMFA is a vile far-left smear organization that takes quotes out of context to promote their hateful leftist agenda.
An actual example from this site would be much more surprising.
Colonel,
I think Mark had to run! =).
Great discussion!!!!! I didn't listen to a word anyone said!!! Yay! Did you know that an arrow can pass completely through my head without any bleeding whatsoever????
;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-0
Huh?
I don't think that was about you, Skep. I think Mary was adding to your point.
Sorry I didn't make that clear, Skep. The Colonel is right.
No need to apologize, I just thought I my conversations with MarkB and JamesB were dumbing me down to the point where I no longer understood what was going on.
If the 'B boys really wanted to do their part to advance the cause of conservativism, they should probably just be quiet.
Or VERMIN..from that lovely person..Doc Savage.Speaking of the madonw, he better come up with something really outrageous to get 'back in the ballgame'. Advertisers are going elsewhere.
Why, you would not believe it anyway.
Yes Colonel,
If Mark said it, it must be true!
And he apparently has loads of examples of MMFA taking quotes out of context, but can't be bothered to link to them because I wouldn't belive them. How could I not believe cold,hard evidence put right in front of my face?
I don't need no stinking evidence, Mark's word is good enough for me.
That is exactly why you people are in the minority! You ALL listened to Sean and Rush....that really got you somewhere, right?
There's no "believe" involved. If you provide factual evidence of MMfA cropping a quote that distorts the meaning, then no one can fail to believe it. If it's a fact, it's a fact.
MMFA crops quotes? Show us. Post links.
Typical Repubs....They'll do anything to try to win a point! They let Bush wreck the country and now they are ALL on this HIGH HORSE....What Phonies!!!
Right now I guess the rank and file GOPLers all want be Sarah P.
No coment.
Hey MMFA, how will you spin's Nancy words of 500 Million Lose Jobs?
Just like this, it is part of the stimulus bill. Let's turn the economy around by getting rid of 500 million potential job seekers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_PTqvyzwRg
Did they crop this?
Pelosi claims 500 MILLION Americans losing jobs a DAY!