Dobbs, master of fear-mongering, warns that Obama, Pelosi are "fear-mongering" to pass stimulus bill
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SUMMARY: CNN's Lou Dobbs declared that, in recent comments about the state of the economy, President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi have been "fear-mongering" and "blatantly using the politics of fear to push for even more so-called stimulus measures." But Dobbs has repeatedly engaged in "fear-mongering" of his own, including stirring up baseless fears that the economic recovery bill would provide money for undocumented immigrants and ACORN -- two frequent scapegoats of Dobbs, Republicans, and conservative media figures.
On the February 4 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, host Lou Dobbs declared that, in recent comments about the state of the economy, President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) have been "fear-mongering" and "blatantly using the politics of fear to push for even more so-called stimulus measures." But Dobbs has repeatedly engaged in "fear-mongering" of his own.
In just the past few days, for example, Dobbs has been stirring up baseless fears that the economic recovery bill would provide money for undocumented immigrants and the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) -- two frequent scapegoats of Dobbs, Republicans, and conservative media figures. Among other things, Dobbs has also defended the false claim by CNN correspondent Christine Romans that the United States has seen a dramatic increase in leprosy cases, which Dobbs said was in part because of "unscreened illegal immigrants coming into this country primarily from South Asia"; repeatedly promoted the idea that the governments of Canada, Mexico, and the United States are secretly planning to form a North American Union; and defended a report on his program that featured a map of "Aztlan," the portion of the American Southwest that purported supporters of the "reconquista" movement are said to believe belongs to Mexico, that was sourced to an organization linked to white supremacists.
From the February 4 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:
DOBBS: President Obama and other top officials are blatantly accusing -- blatantly using the politics of fear to push for even more so-called stimulus measures. They want that bill in the Senate passed without any scrutiny, without any thinking. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, today, topping Barack Obama, however -- Gordon Brown saying the world is in depression.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi had her own contribution to hyperbole today. She said 500 million Americans lose their jobs every month. She misspoke of course. The total is about a half a million in December.
And President Obama today warning about the danger of an economic catastrophe.
OBAMA [video clip]: A failure to act and act now will turn crisis into a catastrophe and guarantee a longer recession, a less robust recovery, and a more uncertain future. Millions more jobs will be lost. More businesses will be shuttered. More dreams will be deferred.
DOBBS: The Obama administration is just a little over two weeks old, and it appears already that the politics of hope have given way to the rhetoric of fear. Say, it is in my opinion, frankly, time to stop talking down our economy, for our political leaders to stop using fear-mongering to pass economic legislation, and to insist on more thinking and a lot less rhetoric.
an apples and oranges attempt by mmfa on this one. Dobbs is in the media, it's inherent in their makeup to ratchet up fear and drama in their reporting and commentary. He should hardly be held to the same standard, much less compared to, elected officials who don't live off of rhetoric, or at least they shouldn't.
No, they shouldn't. Nor should anyone who has a megaphone and is in a position to affect the debate. However, self-interest rules.
when i vote for media people and they can legislate public policy, then I will be as concerned with their rhetoric as public officials.
Meanwhile, why post here?
I may have the choice to vote for Lou in November . There's a rumor he's running for Governor of NJ.
If he runs he'll be running on the Xenophobic Party of NJ ticket.
Republican congressman Phil Gingrey dared to criticize Rush Limbaugh. The next day, Gingrey was on Limbaugh’s show kissing his *$$ and begging for forgiveness.
Obama dared to tell congressional Republicans that listening to Rush Limbaugh will not solve any problems. The next day, Republican lawmakers and right-wing media heads go ballistic, accusing Obama of “going after Limbaugh.”
If you think the buck stops with the people you may have or have not voted for, you’re a fool. The Republicans are undeniably beholden to a pill-popping sexual deviant.
your anecdotal example does not change the fact that I don't let media personalities ratings grubbing fear mongering affect me, if you do then you are the fool, not me.
I wasn't addressing your personal resistance to the influence of media personalities, which I really don't give a **** about.
I was addressing your implication that media personalities have no effect on public policy.
i never said or implied any such thing, if you have to lie in order to make your point it must be worthless. I said they don't legislate public policy, which they don't. Their influence or effect is hardly the same thing.
I believe it was an implication. We'll agree to disagree.
I got the same impression from JamesB's first post as well, Pete.
He did imply, but then backed away from it. Backpeddle, anyone?
Oh, so they do have influence and effect? And you don't find that concerning?
sure, i am quite concerned the incredible influence the leftwing liberal media has over many in this country, just not me personally.
Nice attempt at diversion, but I'm still talking about influence and effect on our elected leaders, not "many in this country."
diversion? after you out and out lie about what i said you accuse me of diversion?
I did not lie. You made an implication.
i specifically said voting and legislating, i implied nothing about influence. but nice try to tell me what I implied.
i mean limbaugh and company sure showed their amazing influence didn't they? first McCain was nominated despite their protestations, and then the Republicans suffered the worst election defeats in recent history and are now practically a party of irrelevancy. yep, sure do have a measurable influence, don't they? and now I see some recent poll where limbaugh is less popular than jeremiah wright.
Your addressing their influence on the public, not on lawmakers.
Voting and public opinion polls are not indicators of the influence and effect that media heads, like Limbaugh, have on lawmakers.
your anecdotal example does not change the fact that I don't let media personalities ratings grubbing fear mongering affect me, if you do then you are the fool, not me
I don't let "media personalities ratings grubbing fear mongering affect me" either. But I take the time to consider the fact that not everyone thinks like me and just because I see right through these MSM idiots, that it doesn't make them any less dangerous. Why, Obama's recovery plan is losing public support ever since the likes of Dobbs and Limbaugh started attacking it on a daily basis. So in conclusion, since media personalities are in a position to shape public opinions, which sometimes affects policies, then they should be help to high standards in what they put out there.
limbaugh is not mainstream media, he is a syndicated talk show host.
Limbaugh is part of mainstream media, especially now that he is the de facto leader of the Republican party.
limbaugh is not mainstream media, he is a syndicated talk show host
Grasping at straws gets you nowhwere. A nationally syndicated radio host with millions of listeners is not part of the mainstream media why? Because he is on radio and not on tv? Please.
Remember when Bush invited the talk radio liars into the OVAL OFFICE to get their new talking points?
There's some anecdotal evidence for ya, jamesb!
Here's some more anecdotal evidence.
jamesB,
I noticed the MMFA thread does not say Dobbs is wrong about the Obama and Pelosi fearmongering. They are only attacking the messenger as being equal to our beloved President and SOTH.
NO, What they are doing is pointing out hypocrisy.
Something you understand very well AA.
AA is very good at hypocrisy. He practices it daily.
You mean statements like "We can't afford for the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"?
Your post only addresses Dobb's apparent hypocrasy, but they're remains the fact that what he is saying is demonstrably false, and most people don't doubt [the words of Reid and Pelosi in this matter] that the economy is IN TROUBLE and needs BIG HELP, FAST. That doesn't make their "fearmongering" true but... What? Do you believe that the "fundamentals of the economy are strong"? Do you believe that if we do nothing it will get better on its own in the next year? Will it not be better than it otherwise would have been? If you do, you are in the minority and either willfilly ignorant or woefully misinformed.
Meanwhile, Dobbs' political party is threatening an "Insurgency" on American. Apparently, the Republican Party needs America "to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands" of the Republican Party.
Funny, because Dobbs isn't a Republican.
Right, he just votes that way. You're almost funny, what with your pointless one-liners!
how do you know how he votes? Dobbs takes Republicans to task quite often, especially on illegal immigration. once again, you post with incredible cluelessness.
He's a lifelong Republican who once gave $1,000 to Bush-Cheney. You insult yourself.
you said you know how he votes, you don't. you lied. you insult all of us.
SueEld?
you lied again, here's the truth.
Dobbs once described himself as a "lifelong Republican,"[19] but has stated that he has switched to being an unaffiliated independent populist, as he no longer openly supports any party.[20] Though he made a donation of $1,000 to the Bush-Cheney campaign in January 2001,[21] he often has described the Bush administration and the then Republican-controlled Congress as "disgraceful." He has also argued that both parties are controlled by corporate interests. Dobbs faulted Bush's 2004 presidential election opponent, Democrat John Kerry, for first criticizing outsourcing and then backing off.[22]
Dobbs is pro-choice, opposes gun control and, though he is a fiscal conservative, supports some government regulations, as revealed in a 60 Minutes interview.[23]
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you have as much trouble defining a "lie" as you do with defining "hate."
By the way, if you took the time to read your source [19] you'd have learned that Dobbs "describes himself as a lifelong Republican who remains moderate in his views." How did a lie, twice now, according to you?
lie #1) you said he votes Republican, you have no way on knowing that. period.
lie #2) you said he IS a lifelong REpublican when that is an old statement of his and he now is an independent, in fact he just wrote a book on it. he is aligned with no party.
Frankly I don't care, but you make such a point of parsing words and asking dumb questions, you deserve it.
DOBBS, LOU
State of Registration: New Jersey
Party: REPUBLICAN
Registration Date: 2/15/1991
Last Vote Date: 11/2/2004
State of Registration: New Jersey
Party: REPUBLICAN
Registration Date: 2/15/1991
Last Vote Date: 11/1/2002
Source: LexisNexis
So what,
exactly, means zip. unless he can produce actual ballots showing Dobbs' voting REpublican. he lied, he should admit it.
You're starting to amaze me.
I guess the only people that can have opinions are individuals that have a (D) next to their name. Those people would never do Fear-mongering
Perhaps you're having trouble understanding this discussion as it moves from post to post.
Not at all, you just do not get it. MMFA points out that the republicans are using fear mongering, what we have shown you today it’s that it is happening with Democrats as well. It does not matter what Dobbs is, it is that MMFA are hypocrites, you are trying to draw the conversation to attack Dobbs, you all just love to kill the messenger and forget the message that MMFA was trying to point out. Victor, look out for the tree in the forest/
MMFA points out that the republicans are using fear mongering, what we have shown you today it’s that it is happening with Democrats as well.
When did Media Matters point out that the Republicans are using fear-mongering?
i thought you just said Dobbs was a Republican? if that is the case, mmfa is pointing out that he is fear mongering, in fact they call him the master of it.
Dude, I am not Media Matters.
but mmfa accuses Dobbs of fear mongering and you said Dobbs was a Republican. So, according to you, mmfa is pointing out Republicans, as in Dobbs, are using fear mongering.
My thoughts don't change Media Matters' points, nor do they make Dobbs plural.
Logical fallacy alert!
And by your very own insistence, Dobbs is an Independent. If this discussion were at all logical, you could not possibly think that Media Matters is pointing out that republicans are using fear mongering here by citing Dobbs for being hypocritical.
Victor, I salute you for being able to respond to that complete miscarriage of logic with anything but paralyzed typing fingers. You're very disciplined.
Thanks, Col.
What are you going to do with all those 'trains' that were passed out, when you were a kid?
In an interview with Deborah Solomon of the New York Times magazine a few years ago, Dobbs admitted that he was a lifelong Republican who voted for George W. Bush in 2000. He many not technically be a Republican anymore, and he may criticize Republicans, but he still generally leans in the direction of Republicans, and he is clearly a conservative on the political spectrum. He's just like O'Reilly, who might technically be an independent, and he may criticize Republicans, but he is essentially a conservative Republican. Actually, O'Reilly was a registered Republican for many years, and falsely claimed that he was a registered Independent when he joined FOX NEWS CHANNEL at it's inception in 1996. He was actually still a Republican back then, and was confronted about it on NPR, and ended the interview. Then he went on his radio show and claimed he was a registered Republican for many years, but he didn't know it.
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Oh for christ's sake, will you people stop this?! If they VOTE republican, echo CONSERVATIVE talking points and support the REPUBLICAN agenda then they're REPUBLICANS. Whether or not they're registered as such is irrelevant. They trade the right to vote in the primary (in some states) for the ability to make bogus claims of objectivity on tehir programs. We're not falling for it, and you really shouldn't either. You've heard of "RINO"? Well there's plenty of DINO's out there as well a RFAIAP (Repub for all intents and purposes.) That's were Dobb's fits in. A Republican who too cowardly or intellectually dishonest to admit as much.
Fear-mongering most often exaggerates the threat. Like the mushroom cloud fear-mongering of the Bush Administration, or the fear-mongering about undocumented immigrants or ACORN that Dobbs uses on a regular basis.
On the other hand, Obama is legitimately using the fear of a greater catastrophe to try to get the help our nation needs.
Oh, now I see how it works. When Obama does it, it was for the great good. Blah Blah Blah.
I've seen to many noecon threat alarms. I'm still waiting for any backup on quite a few of those threats. The threat represented by our economy, as is, is very clear. At least to me. I realize you are fully capable not seeing this threat, or alternatively letting your ideology tell you who is responsible.
You stand as an excellent example of neocon thought, in all its glory, for anyone who wanders down this thread.
Stand short.
No, it's when it's TRUE that it's OK. Fearmongering with DEMONSTRABLE LIES is always bad, no matter who does it.
Fear-mongering is what the Republicans did for 7 years after 9/11, and what Cheney is still doing apparently, if you read his interview with the Politico. George Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, and many others used fear-mongering to get public support for an invasion of Iraq. The Bush White House and many leading figures who worked in it used to try to get votes. They questioned people's patriotism and love of America. A sitting U.S. Vice-President, Dick Cheney, said in 2004 that if a Democrat was elected to the White House that year, America may suffer a terrorist attack. Lou Dobbs seemed to not be as outraged over fear-mongering for 7 years after 9/11 by the Bush Administration. Although when it came to "brown people", Lou Dobbs was right there every time to act all high and mighty. He never missed a beat on that one. Gotta give him credit for that, in one sense at least. Big Lou knows which side his bread is buttered on.
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Coach - Not only did Bush W prove that lying about a bad situation does not work, but also that corporate tax cuts just create more greed and pocket money for the wealthy. But that doesn't stop the right wing nuts from still believe red is blue and up is down.
Easy for a millionaire like Dobbs to say these things, ain't it?
So, Dobbs thinks the economy ain't so bad? Is that what he's getting at?
Maybe he should ask the half million people who lost their jobs last month.
The sky might not be falling, but we're not far from it. It's not fear mongering, it's about doing something now to stem the job losses, and the losses in the economy. I think I read something today about job losses being the worst that they've been since 1982? Somewhere in there. We're in a deep recession, moving quickly towards a depression. Major corporations are laying people off left and right, and automakers are offering buyouts for almost all of their employees so they can purge the rolls. Consumer confidence is way down. Spending by consumers is way down. People are losing their jobs, and then losing their homes as a consequence, not putting any of their money into the bank, and so on and so forth. I mean, if you're not scared about what's going on, you should be.
I'm cerainly concerned about what is going on.
Obama writing that if we don't pass the stimulus now, the country may never recover is a very strong statement. It is certainly opinion not fact. It is perhaps not helpful to say that.
And I voted for him so I'm not an Obama heter by any means.
and what's even more striking is mmfa, and many here, aren't the least bit concerned by what Obama, or any elected Democrat for that matter, says, or doesn't say, it's all about getting those darn media people and holding them accountable. If they held Democrats to the same standard it'd be refreshing.
News Flash: This is a media watchdog group.
Then don't compare Dobbs to Obama or Pelosi, as mmfa is doing here.
They are very correctly pointing out that Dobbs has used the same so-called fear-mongering that he's projecting onto Obama and Pelosi.
they compared them, pure and simple. Yet when that is pointed out you say well this is a media watchdog group, so holding politicians accountable is not what mmfa does. sorry, you can't have it both ways.
They're calling out a member of the media for being a hypocite. Quiet frankly, I honestly don't understand your protest.
Neither does he, he's simply trolling.
No, MMFA is a D-cat pro website that only points out what they think is an attack on Democrats. This is why MMFA has not covered all the Tax dodgers that Obama has tried to appoint to his staff.
That must be it, yah uhuh, yew betcha,clear as the south end of a north bound hate horse.
Step away from the keyboard.
James,
You are stupider than I thought. Someone already explained to you what this website does.
If you don't like it, then you relly don't have to come here, but stop being stupid.
Skep, are you kidding me, I know what MMFA is, they are a D-cat hypocrites, which I just love to see how far they can go each day. Thanks to this website I now have a better understand of how deranged you all are.
Thank for your contribution to our daily derangement quota. You represent a high bar for all of us here to try reach, and try to pace...but it is hard.
Could someone please translate that into coherent?
If the media held the Bush Administration to the same standard in the run-up to the Iraq War, it would have also been refreshing.
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Bruce, my God, you voted for Barack Hussein Obama? What has this world come to. You and I go back many years. Even if you don't remember me, I do remember your posts for many years. We even interacted a few times, I believe. You were up there with Rrastro and Leatherhelmet at one point. Now if one of those two voted for Obama, I'll start looking for four guys on horses riding down the street.
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I remember you njguy. I remember most posters that regularly post or have posted in the past.
You're all so nice and upbeat. And objective...
For your information the Democrats need 60 votes in the Senate to pass any major bill. This is because the Republicans will do the samething they did the last 2 years and fillibuster to prevent a vote. It takes 60 votes to end a fillibuster.
Interestingly enough, Republicans never had 60 either.
How about your side grows a pair?
So Pelosi claiming we would lose 500 million jobs a month is not fear mongering? This was not a mis speak since she said it three different times yesterday. Either it was fear mongering or she is just a idiot and did not read her notes before spouting her notes.
In a country of 300 million people, that indeed would be a crisis situation.
Three times??? Damn.
If that's true, it's really got me wondering now.
I never really wanted her to be speaker, for the same reason I don't want Harry Reid to be senate majority leader.
I have seen two with my on eyes, one on You Tube during a speech. Second with Chris Wallace and he corrects her, and the third in a interview she did was a paper.
Sad.
It is quite bad. It's also a little foolish for Dobbs to cite what he admits to be misspeaking as fear-mongering. What a biased opportunist he is.
Are you being purposefully deceptive, or did you not see that she was corrected, and admitted that she mis-spoke, immediately after the gaffe?
She meant 500 thousand, a figure which is in line with our current monthly job situation. She pointed this out, but clearly you weren't listening. Take your fingers out of your ears, and open your eyes.
I tried googling it to get the straight skinny, but all I got were wingnut sites.
Kyle it would be on thing if she said it only once and was corrected then, not till she spoke with Chris Wallace on Fox did it get corrected. What the other times the people around her were to scared to say anything. Maybe you should take your thumb ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVl2nqjLVeA - she was not corrected here, and CNN did not even comment before the clip that she mis-spoke. So Kyle did I miss the correction?
Lord knows Republicans never misspeak.
The top 25 Bushisms of all time.
Yep, and the SNL (and like) took most of them and had a great time. Will the same happen here? Will this allow Ms. Fey to make a comeback?
No, not Tina, but some good material for Kristen Wiig.
http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/nancy-pelosi/43752/
A better Nancy. Will SNL use the latest "mis-speak"? Will have to see, I guess.
A thousand here, a million there, soon we will be talking about real job losses
A million here, a billion there, soon we will be talking about real money.
Lord knows Republicans always pay their taxes.
Palin and Daschle.
Craig, been lots of news about tax dodgers, but I am sure if Palin(R) did not make her payments it would have been the lead on all the news soup ABC, CBS, NBC. Daschle, is a D-cat, not sure if you were aware to that one. WOW you need to get out more
You missed the point. What a shock.
And I love your argument. Because you haven't heard about Palin's tax problems in the MSM, they can't be real. Do you really want to be a sucker your whole life?
Now I know why footinmouth sounds so stupid. He's channeling W.
I wonder if he ever found out if our children is learning...
Or, if he ever learned subject-verb agreement...
I guess this is not fear-monering " WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama warned on Thursday that failure to act on an economic recovery package could plunge the nation into a long-lasting recession that might prove irreversible, a fresh call to a recalcitrant Congress to move quickly. No, if it comes from a D-cat, it is just showing a sense of direction.
yep, never mind what the president of the United States says, that isn't nearly as important as what some talk show host says.
Did Obama say "irreversible" or something that dire? I can find a quote. To me, that would be fear-mongering.
"This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse," Obama wrote in the newspaper piece titled, "The Action Americans Need."
nope, no fear mongering dire talk there.
I disagree and think that qualifies as fear-mongering.
So we should do nothing and assume Obama's pulling it all out of his butt?
Obama painted a bleak picture if lawmakers do nothing.
"This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse," Obama wrote in the newspaper piece titled, "The Action Americans Need."
That is bleak. Not cool if you ask me.
But this Feb 5 Obama statement does free Dobbs of his Feb. 4 hypocrisy cited here by Media Matters.
Just as long as you agree that accusing Dobbs of hypocrisy is admitting that Democrats are fearmongering on this issue.
I already did.
I think it's hypocritical for a fearmonger to complain about someone else fearmongering whether that person is actually fearmongering or not.
Good point. My thinking that Dobbs is being a total hypocrite here as he cries "fear-mongering" has no bearing whatsoever on my opinion of Obama’s economic statement issued today.
Yes Victor he did, this country is not going to plunge into a depression. We will face some tough time ahead, but this stimulas package is not going to help, it will just delay the problem. We should not have bailed out the banks, we were told byt the then President (R) this was to help homeowners B.S.. It did nothing for homeowner.
You know we won't go into a Depression. You can see into the future. Maybe you should become a gambler. Or, just tell me who will win the SuperBowl next year.
I am so glad you have reliezed this, took you long enough. Dolphins.
But only if they score more points than their opponents.
People like Dobbs and Hannity, not to mention Limburger have a HUGE listening audience. When their screaming rants influence their audience to write or call their Senators or Representatives demanding policy agendas it absolutely has an effect on the decisions of our elected officials. Not that I really think they pay any attention to us citizens. I'm just sayin'....
No, they don't.
THE HIGHEST UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN DECADES, WALL ST IN A MESS,COMPANYS GOING UNDER EVERY DAY,SOCIAL SECURITY IN TROUBLE PENSION SYSTEMS GOING BROKE, LAYOFFS, FURLOUGH DAYS,FORECLOSERS, ETC ETC ETC AND DOBBS ,THIS CLOWN WHO IS MAKING MORE THE THE MINIMUM WAGE TO SAY THE LEAST IS SAYING THE PRESIDENT AND PELOSI HAVE BEEN FEAR MONGERING. THEY DONT HAVE TO FEAR MONGER. YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD BELIEVE HIM IF HE SAID THIS IS NOTHING TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.THE PRESIDENT IS TELLING IT THE WAY IT IS. GIVING IT TO US STRAIGHT AND IF YOU DOUBT HIM LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE IN THE COFFEE SHOPS AND DINERS. THERE NOT AS ELEQUENT AS THE SUITS YOU SEE TALKING ON TV BUT THERE THE ONES WHO REALLY KNOW WHATS GOING ON. JOE CAPRIO
What did you use to post that, Western Union?
The mainstream media should be called out for its one sided coverage on the critique of this package .Most coverage has been partisan,negative commentary from politicians and media pundits.You don't see much direct commentary from actual economists.Its ludicrous to imply that spending is not stimulus and that government jobs are not "real" jobs. Tell that to somebody unemployed that would take any kind of job available. I heard an explanation that the predominence of Republican commentators on news shows was because they cover the President already so it balances when they have 2 or 3 times as many Republicans as Democrats.You gotta be kidding me ..that didn't happen when Bush was in the White House..and a lot of the coverage on the President is negative anyway(Fox News,Morning Joe,Hardball lately,Dobbs,etc...)After the policy on capping exec pay for bailout Corps was presented,the "lavish" lifestyle of the Pres is suddenly an example of Hypocrisy!!!!.Where was that when BUSH spent a week a month on vacation!!!!Even criticism of a shirtsleeves work environment ..maybe they are really doing work in the Oval Office !!!
The mainstream media is just like it was during he campaign ..they cover Obama a lot but most of it is negative..esp if they are getting blasted for the positive coverage as being "in the tank for Obama".After Bittergate;Bill Ayers;Rev Wright;flag pins;He's a muslim;He's unpatiotic;now its fear mongering about the economy!!!!Maybe Dobbs needs to lose his job so he can see if its scary right now!!!!
.... huh? i dont thinki understand the problem? or maybe i just dont want to pay attention to the problems of this RECOVERY package... let's just trust obama and take the risk we need to fix our economy
I think no matter what we do it's going to effect us. Either pass the packaged...feel the effect in the future. Don't pass and continue to suffer.