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February 06, 2009 10:00 am ET

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SUMMARY: CNN's Lisa Sylvester did not challenge Tony Blankley's claims on the recovery bill, including that the Congressional Budget Office said the legislation "would actually contract the economy as opposed to doing nothing," and that, according to CBO, "in 2011, they still would not have spent about a third of the money."

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On the February 5 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, guest host Lisa Sylvester did not challenge syndicated columnist Tony Blankley's claim that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) "said that the 10-year projection of [President] Obama's plan, the one coming out of the House, would actually contract the economy as opposed to doing nothing." Sylvester did not note in response that in a letter to Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH), CBO director Douglas Elmendorf wrote that the increase in government debt resulting from the recovery legislation "would reduce output slightly in the long run" by "crowding out" private investment, but also that "CBO estimates that this Senate legislation would raise output and lower unemployment for several years." Moments later, Blankley added: "According to the Congressional Budget Office, after -- in 2011, they still would not have spent about a third of the money." Sylvester again did not challenge. She could have noted in response that while CBO's cost estimate of the House version of the recovery plan estimated that approximately 64 percent of the bill would be spent by the end of fiscal year 2010 -- that is, by October 1, 2010 -- its analysis of the Senate bill found that roughly 78 percent of the bill would be spent over that same period.

While Blankley claimed, unchallenged by Sylvester, that the House-passed recovery bill "would actually contract the economy as opposed to doing nothing," Elmendorf wrote in his February 4 letter that, according to the CBO analysis, the Senate legislation would "raise output and lower unemployment for several years," specifically stating that the bill would "increase GDP relative to the agency's baseline forecast by between 1.2 percent and 3.6 percent by the fourth quarter of 2010. It would also increase employment at that point in time by 1.3 million to 3.9 million jobs."

Additionally, while Elmendorf wrote that the recovery legislation "would reduce output slightly in the long run" by "crowding out" private investment, he added:

The crowding-out effect would be offset somewhat by other factors. Some of the Senate legislation's provisions, such as funding for improvements to roads and highways, might add to the economy's potential output in much the same way that private capital investment does. Other provisions, such as funding for grants to increase access to college education, could raise long-term productivity by enhancing people's skills. And some provisions would create incentives for increased private investment.

Elmendorf concluded:

Including the effects of both crowding out of private investment (which would reduce output in the long run) and possibly productive government investment (which could increase output), CBO estimates that by 2019 the Senate legislation would reduce GDP by 0.1 percent to 0.3 percent on net. H.R. 1, as passed by the House, would have similar long-run effects. CBO has not estimated the macroeconomic effects of the stimulus proposals year by year beyond 2011.

During an earlier segment on Lou Dobbs Tonight, following a report by CNN national political correspondent Jessica Yellin, in which Yellin stated that "official Washington has already decided President Obama is losing the PR war on the stimulus," Sylvester repeatedly adopted Republican framing of the recovery bill that Elmendorf has stated is false. Sylvester called the legislation a "massive borrowing and lending plan that is largely disguised as stimulus," and a "massive so-called economic stimulus bill." Sylvester did not provide support for her suggestion that the bill would not stimulate the economy. Indeed, CBO estimates that either the House version or the proposed Senate version of the bill would "have a noticeable impact on economic growth and employment in the next few years." Additionally, as Media Matters for America documented, in his January 27 testimony before the House Budget Committee, Elmendorf said that the House version of the bill would "provide massive fiscal stimulus that includes a combination of government spending increases and revenue reductions." Elmendorf further stated: "In CBO's judgment, H.R. 1 would provide a substantial boost to economic activity over the next several years relative to what would occur without any legislation."

From the February 5 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

SYLVESTER: Good evening, everybody. President Obama today declared the time for talk on the stimulus plan is over, it's time for action. The president launching an all-out offensive to break the deadlock on the huge borrowing and spending bill. President Obama again using fear-mongering to push his agenda.

Meanwhile, a bipartisan group of senators is making a final effort to save this bill from collapse -- those senators trying to cut $100 billion from the cost of that legislation. Jessica Yellin reports from Washington.

[begin video clip]

YELLIN: A hard sell from the president --

OBAMA: If we do not act, a bad situation will become dramatically worse. The crisis could turn into a catastrophe for families.

YELLIN: -- and a photo op from his number two.

VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: The economy is in trouble and the need is urgent.

YELLIN: This team is on a belated campaign to sell the stimulus and answer charges, it's just a whole lot of pork.

SEN. JON KYL (R-AZ): There is so much wasteful Washington spending in this bill, it's hard to know where to start.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): We're on different planets. We're literally making this up as we go.

YELLIN: But with headlines like this, official Washington has already decided President Obama is losing the PR war on the stimulus.

STUART ROTHENBERG (editor and publisher of The Rothenberg Political Report): The Republicans have successfully defined the stimulus bill as too much pork.

YELLIN: It has been a rough week, dominated by stories about cabinet level tax flaps. When the president fanned out across the TV networks to combat a tax on the stimulus, the interviews were dominated by the Daschle news.

OBAMA: You know, I think this was a mistake. I think I screwed up.

YELLIN: And even on the topic of the stimulus, the president was on the defensive.

OBAMA: No, no, no. I don't think we've lost the message.

YELLIN: Funny, that doesn't sound a whole lot like this man.

OBAMA: We can change this country. In three days, you can turn the page. ... Tomorrow, at this defining moment in history, you -- each and every one of you -- can give this country the change that we need.

YELLIN: Change takes time. That's what President Obama says these days -- certainly, more than two weeks. But how patient are the American people?

ROTHENBERG: I don't think Americans are very patient on this. They want action. They want something.

[end video clip]

YELLIN: The chattering classes are quick to judge President Obama, certainly quicker than the rest of the general public. But the issue to watch is the economy. For now, the economy is a problem President Obama inherited. The question is: How long until it's a problem he owns? He's going to be continue -- he will continue to be judged by expectations he set high, Lisa.

SYLVESTER: Yeah, so how involved is President Obama then with Congress trying to work this deal out? I mean, you have this bipartisan group of senators trying to work behind the scenes. We don't even know if that's going to be successful or not. Where is the president on this?

YELLIN: He is as involved as a president can get, taking one-on-one meetings with members, both Republican and Democrat, having his team negotiating with them, talking to them regularly. He is working hard to get this passed.

SYLVESTER: All right, Jessica Yellin, thanks very much -- reporting from Washington.

And President Obama tonight will attend a House Democrats' retreat in Williamsburg, Virginia, to push his massive borrowing and lending plan that is largely disguised as stimulus. The president making his first trip on Air Force One. He arrived in Virginia just a short time ago. There you see the pictures and President Obama spoke to reporters during the flight and we'll bring you those comments as soon as they come in.

[...]

SYLVESTER: Senate Democrats are hoping for a vote on this massive so-called economic stimulus bill by the end of this week, and we're closely examining this legislation line by line in our special series we call "Lou's Line-Item Veto." Tonight, $88 million for an arctic icebreaker, but that's just the beginning. [CNN correspondent] Ines Ferré reports.

[...]

SYLVESTER: That was President Obama talking with reporters on Air Force One a short time ago. He was en route to Williams, Virginia, [sic] to push his massive -- this spending -- the stimulus package, and he says it should be of a sufficient size to create jobs. And he was talking about that -- that it was apparently his first flight on Air Force One, saying that the ride was a spiffy one.

[...]

SYLVESTER: So, do you think that we don't need a stimulus package at all, or that what --

BLANKLEY: No.

SYLVESTER: -- should be restructured -- what do you say?

BLANKLEY: No, I -- look at the -- what the Congressional Budget Office found yesterday. Now that's run by Congress. This time, the appointees are Democrats. It's not a Republican organization. They said that the 10-year projection of Obama's plan, the one coming out of the House, would actually contract the economy as opposed to doing nothing.

So, I'm in favor -- I think most people -- most Americans and Republicans are in favor of stimulating the economy. But what's happened is the stimulus bill has got taken over by a lot of people who want to put in their own policies rather than just short-term stimulus.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, after -- in 2011, they still would not have spent about a third of the money that was going to be voted on presumably in the next several hours.

So it's worth taking a little time to try to get it right ad get it -- but that's going to require Obama to weigh in against his liberal Democratic allies on the Hill, which, so far, he hasn't been willing to do.

And so, I think, he doesn't -- he seems passive. That's my sense -- is he's sort of letting things happen. He's reacting rather than leading. And I think he needs to have a better grip of what his long-term objectives are.

SYLVESTER: Here's part of the problem. You've got Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid [D-NV] taking a really strong stance, saying, we've got to do this, we've got to do it within the next 12 hours.

And then, on the other hand, you've got senators like Lindsey Graham -- and we have some sound that we can play for our viewers -- he's saying, hold on; wait a minute. So how do you find the middle ground? But let's listen to the sound first from Senator Graham.

GRAHAM [video clip]: We're about to spend 8 or $900 billion, and nobody's got a clue where we're going to land and we got to do it by tonight. So, I am telling you right now that if this is the solution to George Bush's problems, the country is going to get worse. If this is the new way of doing business, if this is the change we all can believe in, America's best days are behind her.

SYLVESTER: So where's the middle? I mean, how do you get a stimulus package that is not too expensive and that -- one that will actually stimulate the economy?

BLANKLEY: Well, I mean, I think between Senator Nelson and Senator Collins, they're trying to actually get some of the pork out and get a solid bill. The idea that we don't have a week or two to properly design a bill that, as I said, according to their own Congressional Budget Office studies, is not going to be spent out for two and three years, I think it's being a little misleading with the public.

SYLVESTER: OK. Tony Blankley, thank you very much for your insights. I know we always enjoy chatting with you.

BLANKLEY: Thank you.

SYLVESTER: Thank you very much for joining us.

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    • Author by nerzog (February 06, 2009 10:08 am ET)
         

      "He is as involved as a president can get, taking one-on-one meetings with members, both Republican and Democrat, having his team negotiating with them, talking to them regularly. He is working hard to get this passed."

      But.... wait..... according to Lindsay Graham, Obama has been totally uninvolved.  That little twerp wouldn't lie to us, would he?

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 06, 2009 10:38 am ET)
           

        And wasn't CNN on the dirty dozen list of liberal media outlets that one of the wingnuts posted here recently?

        I believe that was ANutterAntiAmerican, who also described Fox Nooz as "leaning right". Like ESPN tilts slightly towards sports.

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    • Author by anotheramerican (February 06, 2009 11:18 am ET)
         

      Sylvest did not need to challenge Blankley's claims, because what he said was accurate.  MMFA itself verifies this.

      Including the effects of both crowding out of private investment (which would reduce output in the long run) and possibly productive government investment (which could increase output), CBO estimates that by 2019 the Senate legislation would reduce GDP by 0.1 percent to 0.3 percent on net. H.R. 1, as passed by the House, would have similar long-run effects. CBO has not estimated the macroeconomic effects of the stimulus proposals year by year beyond 2011.

      I had to laugh when I read the Director of CBO tries to soften the blow and manipulate the figures by saying, " possibly productive government investment" might offset the lower output. Glad to know all things are possible but when dealing with a trillion dollar spending bill, I would also like to see the numbers crunched without that unknowable offset that might possibly not occur. 

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 06, 2009 11:40 am ET)
           

        CBO estimates that this Senate legislation would raise output and lower unemployment for several years.

        You're a "little picture" guy, AA. You also seem to have trouble getting to the end of a sentence.

        If you have a proposal, or know of anybody who has one, that addresses our current economic mess and doesn't contain any "unknowable" elements, I'd love to see it. It should not be based on the same neocon philosophy that got us into this mess.

        And Happy Saint Ronnie's Day to you. How are you celebrating?

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    • Author by DAWUSS (February 06, 2009 11:24 am ET)
         

      I keep thinking CBO stands for "Collective Buy Out" for some reason...

      But that's another topic - I also have to wonder if the media would be critical if the Obama administration decided the best way to revive the economy was to do nothing. Something about a Lazy Fair. I heard those things were fun.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (February 06, 2009 11:25 am ET)
         
      Either Dobbs whispered in her earpiece or Sylvester is in awe of blanley.
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    • Author by dangrady (February 06, 2009 12:32 pm ET)
         

      Class Warfare And They Own The Media!!

      As an American, am I less a citizen if I'm not an millionaire, and not in the top tax bracket? Doe this make me less a citizen than the millionaire?

      If I not stupid enough to believe that NAFTA/CAFTA is for America, or American, does that make me less an American.

      If I believe in fair representation of labor, and our right to represented does this make me less an American?

      If millionaires spend more in taxes than the middleclass, but we spend far more in blood on our battle fields; does this make us less an American if we just can't stomach the lies?

      Billions of tax payer dollars spent on no-bid contracts, corruption, graft, and willfull incompetance, as well as all manors of national disgraces from our government has delivered America at the brink, and they are willing to hold America's collective heads under the dirty water.

      The trillions of dollars being parked in Dubai, Switzerland, Bahamas, Cayman Islands, and places that spend nothing to re-invest in America, but see us the way a looter sees an abandoned store.

      Mr Blankley has been a festering cancer on the body politic, and is not going away until we find thinking, and speaking truth to power is as atleast as cool as Paris Hilton.

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady

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    • Author by bigc (February 06, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
         

      President Obama's economic recovery package will actually hurt the economy more in the long run than if he were to do nothing, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said Wednesday.

      CBO, the official scorekeepers for legislation, said the House and Senate bills will help in the short term but result in so much government debt that within a few years they would crowd out private investment, actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing

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      • Author by nerzog (February 06, 2009 1:13 pm ET)
           

        So, if adding to the debt is harmful, what effect will President (Numbnuts) Bush's unnecessary Iraq War have on future GDP?  Did the CBO have a prediction about that?

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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 06, 2009 1:15 pm ET)
           

        '...specifically stating that the bill would "increase GDP relative to the agency's baseline forecast by between 1.2 percent and 3.6 percent by the fourth quarter of 2010. It would also increase employment at that point in time by 1.3 million to 3.9 million jobs." '

        I think this is the part you're missing.What is the exact quote you're referring to with this?

        "..actually leading to a lower Gross Domestic Product over the next 10 years than if the government had done nothing"

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    • Author by bigc (February 06, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
         
      Here's a link to my previous posting: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (February 06, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
           

        You must be a Moonie to believe anything in the Wash. Times.

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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 06, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
             

          Ah, now I get it. I thought BigC was attributing that statement to the CBO, when it was the opinion of the Moonie Times. I retract my question.

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          • Author by magnolialover (February 06, 2009 4:36 pm ET)
               

            He did mention that it was the CBO that said it. So, he's lying in other words, or doesn't know where his original assertion came from.

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            • Author by Mrs. Teufelshunde (February 06, 2009 4:57 pm ET)
                 

              He's not 'lying'.  He cut and pasted the first two paragraphs of an article in the Washington Times.  He's plagiarizing, or in other words, stealing.

              Note to BigC: Even if you include a link, it's still plagiarizing unless you put the text in quotes.  Didn't you ever have to write a school paper?

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              • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (February 06, 2009 6:12 pm ET)
                   

                Thanks, Mag & Mrs. T. That's why I was confused. We've got another AA style copy/paster who went  to theWashington Timesfor his material.

                I know this is just comments  at a website, and formal writing rules don't needd to be followed, but it sure is strange that so many wingnuts seem to think nothing of stealing other peoples words and mixing them right in with their own, giving no indication that there's another source there.Is that just the result of years of being told what to say, and repeating things?

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    • Author by jerrycDenver (February 06, 2009 1:18 pm ET)
         
      Tony Blankley is a puppet - Rev. Moon (owns WashTimes) is the puppeteer - these folks, including Lush Rumball, Newt, Dobbs, etc., WANT AMERICA TO FAIL ! . . . have nothing whatever to offer that's constructive, or instructive. Like Bush, they'll wander away from their mess, leaving it to the grown-ups . . .
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    • Author by nerzog (February 06, 2009 1:27 pm ET)
         

      If you add in the cost of retaking Afghanistan, Puddinhead George's little Iraq Adventure will end up costing us well over a trillion dollars.  Funny that all these Republican tightwads never whined about what impact that little time bomb would have on the long term GDP.

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      • Author by anotheramerican (February 06, 2009 2:44 pm ET)
           

        Nerzog

        You forgot to mention the Democrats who also authorized war spending. Hint: Do the initials BHO and HRC ring a bell?

        "Once elected to the Senate, Obama voted for a series of war funding measures, as did chief rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.)".

        http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/739563,CST-NWS-sweet14.article

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        • Author by nerzog (February 06, 2009 3:38 pm ET)
             

          No, I didn't mention them because BHO and HRC aren't the ones whining about how much the stimulus bill is running up the deficit.

          The Republicans who are so horrified by deficit spending now had NO PROBLEM with it when their boy was wasting hundreds of billions on an unnecessary war in Iraq while giving tax cuts to people who didn't need them.

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        • Author by magnolialover (February 06, 2009 4:38 pm ET)
             

          If you remember correctly, if the democrats didn't vote for the war funding, they were traitors. They were for the terrorists. They were treasonous to the country, and completely and totally un-American. Gee, I wonder why they voted for it?

          And wasn't it your side that constantly reminded us, even hearing from Mrs. McCain herself, that Obama DIDN'T vote for war funding, and that made her frightened for her son's life who hadn't even been to Iraq yet? I seem to remember the tirade of articles about that, and I'm sure if I went back and reviewed the threads on those articles, I'm almost certain that you were in there harping about how Obama didn't support the troops because he didn't vote to fund them. Should I go back and look or do you want to just admit it now?

          And now, you're turning it around saying that he did? So, which is it?

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      • Author by worrierking (February 06, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
           

        And even if it ends tomorrow, the bills coming due will be astronomical. The long term health care costs for those wounded were estimated to be $300 to 400 billion dollars two years ago.

        And not to mention the price tag we'll continue to pay as a nation who stooped to the level of it's enemies and squandered the support of the entire world, including Iran, after 9/11

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    • Author by dangrady (February 06, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
         

      Class Warfare And They Own The Media!!

      If we spend money to fix roads, highways, bridges, a new electrical grid, a national train system interconnecting the nation cheaply, public transit in all the urban centers making it convient and affordable to travel without an automobile, not to mention a Apollo style mission for renewable energy, and global warming strategies ............

      No, not the Republicans, the BlueDog Democrats, they want to strip our citizens of thier dignity on behalf of the greed of thier rich enablers and religous fanatics welcoming in the next American fascism.Economic Darwinism for the next Dark Age could be our children's and grandchildren's legacy, and for what?? 

      As though the unholy marriage of Christian Coalition and Wall Street spawned the decline of American Democracy into the next coming. Sociopathic rich people, and religious fanatics convinced they are among the chosen few after the end of days, or atleast in the meantime.

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady

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      • Author by anotheramerican (February 06, 2009 2:46 pm ET)
           

        Dan,

        Spoken like a true liberal!  ;-)

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        • Author by magnolialover (February 06, 2009 4:39 pm ET)
             

          Yeah, because those things that he mentioned were bad how?

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        • Author by MoonbatYouBet (February 06, 2009 4:58 pm ET)
             

          As always, if you use a smileycon it isn't insulting and unproductive like all that librul claptrap.  :)

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          • Author by anotheramerican (February 07, 2009 10:36 am ET)
               

            If you think being called a true liberal is insulting, don't blame me.

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            • Author by MoonbatYouBet (February 08, 2009 10:38 pm ET)
                 

              Very passive-agressive, as always.  Well, if that is how it is to be played then:  You sir are the epitomy of clulessness.  But epitomy is a good word so don't get all bent out of shape. 

              Oh and   :)  It's all good now, right?

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      • Author by nerzog (February 06, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
           

        Sounds about right, to me.  The Republican toadies in Congress are certainly acting as if they think Jesus will come surfing down on a cloud before WE suffer the consequences of THEIR actions.

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