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Declaring GOP winner in "stimulus message war," media oblivious to their cohort's role in skewing debate

February 06, 2009 7:44 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Many in the media have proclaimed the GOP the winner in the "stimulus message war" over President Obama and congressional Democrats. But they often do so with no self-reflection or acknowledgment of their cohort's role in advancing the Republicans' side in the debate through the credulous repetition of falsehoods and other Republican talking points.

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Many in the media have proclaimed the GOP the winner in the "stimulus message war" over President Obama and congressional Democrats. But they often do so with no self-reflection or acknowledgment of their cohort's role in advancing the Republicans' side of the debate through the credulous repetition of falsehoods and other Republican talking points.

Jeanne Cummings, the Politico's chief lobbying and money correspondent, wrote that Obama is "losing [the] stimulus message war." She is far from alone:

  • In a February 4 news analysis in The Los Angeles Times, Peter Wallsten asserted that "[a] surprisingly unified GOP has taken control of the debate" about the stimulus plan.
  • The Wall Street Journal's Jonathan Weisman and Naftali Bendavid referenced in a February 6 article "Republicans' remarkable success during the past two weeks ... shaping a public image of the bill as pork-laden and ineffective."
  • Newsweek senior editor Michael Hirsh wrote in a February 4 piece that Obama "has allowed the GOP to turn the haggling over the stimulus package into a decidedly stale, Republican-style debate over pork, waste and overspending." Hirsh continued: "Team Obama and his party are losing the debate" about the stimulus plan.
  • On the February 5 broadcast of MSNBC's 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Newsweek senior White House correspondent Richard Wolffe claimed the Democrats' "messaging has not worked." Wolffe also stated of the administration: "What they haven't done is say, hey, it's not just about spending. It's about mitigating, softening the blow of this recession for regular, working Americans. That's the bit they've failed on. They've let it be hijacked by all this extraneous spending programs."
  • On the February 5 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight, congressional correspondent Jessica Yellin asserted that "official Washington has decided Obama is losing the PR war on the stimulus." She went on to air a clip of Stuart Rothenberg, editor of The Rothenberg Political Report, asserting, "The Republicans have successfully defined the stimulus bill as too much pork."

Yet in declaring the Republicans the victors of the stimulus debate, and in some cases attributing that victory to Republican achievements or Democratic failures, none of the above media figures acknowledged the role their colleagues played in promoting the GOP's often-skewed representations of the bill.

Indeed, Media Matters for America has documented numerous examples of media echoing, repeating, or advancing variations of Republican talking points about the economic stimulus plan, many of which are false or misleading. For instance:

The bill will not stimulate the economy

Government spending in the bill is not stimulus

There is no reason for stimulus after a turnaround begins

Corporate tax rate cuts and capital gains tax rate cuts could provide substantial stimulus

Undocumented immigrants without Social Security numbers would be eligible for the "Making Work Pay" tax credit

CBO analysis found the majority of stimulus won't take effect for at least a year and a half

Food stamps and/or unemployment payments are not stimulus

The economic recovery bill would amount to spending more than $200K per job created

Up to $4.19 billion of stimulus bill "would go to" ACORN

Family planning provision is like China's "one-child policy"; could allow government "to regulate the amount of kids people might be in the moods for"

It "may take years before the stimulus plan spurs real job growth" or the plan may not "create any new jobs"

From the February 5 edition of MSNBC's 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue:

DAVID SHUSTER (host): We've heard from so many Democrats over the last couple of days that they felt this was getting away in terms of message -- in terms of controlling the message, owning the media right of this story. And, in fact, it does seem that the easier punch lines are being delivered by Republicans.

Here's Congressman [Roger] Wicker [R-MS], who was talking about how big this package is, and trying to put it into a context that might be easier for people to understand than the context that the Obama White House has been offering. Here's the representative. Watch.

WICKER [video clip]: If you began spending $1 million per day on the day Jesus was born, and you spent $1 million per day every day since that time until today, you would still not have spent anywhere near $1 trillion.

SHUSTER: It's hard to -- it's hard to battle against that stuff.

WOLFFE: Back to the baby Jesus. You know, yes, it's hard because they haven't explained a convincing narrative for why the stimulus works the way it does. So, you know, that's what I mean by having the scattergun approach that has taken them to pieces.

Having the president at this stage, wheeling him out so often and so early, is a sign of how the messaging has not worked. He is still their best card. He is still popular. But look how his popularity has declined. They cannot afford to lose 10 points a week, because by the time they get to the six-month stage, they really won't have that much left to go.

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SHUSTER: Richard, Senator John McCain took issue at the Obama White House today, saying that this was not a bipartisan effort to get this bill crafted.

Here's Senator McCain from the Senate floor earlier today.

McCAIN [video clip]: And we ought to change the way that we are conducting this legislation in a partisan, nonconsultative fashion. And if the -- if the leadership can peel off two or three Republicans, that's an accomplishment they will make. But it's not bipartisanship.

SHUSTER: Is he right, and does it matter?

WOLFFE: I think he's going to find it very hard -- I think Republicans are going to find it very hard to argue about being consulted here.

The president has had them over for cocktails and cookies. He's gone an extra mile or five to try and get Republican votes here.

The fact that this isn't going to be a really bipartisan vote -- there are just going to be a handful -- is clearly a disappointment to the White House. But in terms of the messaging, that's the one thing this White House has got right.

What they haven't done is say, hey, it's not just about spending. It's about mitigating, softening the blow of this recession for regular, working Americans. That's the bit they've failed on. They've let it be hijacked by all this extraneous spending programs. But when it comes to working with the other party, I mean, the president has gone much further than President Bush.

From the February 5 edition of CNN's Lou Dobbs Tonight:

(begin video clip)

YELLIN: A hard sell from the president.

OBAMA: If we do not act, a bad situation will become dramatically worse. Crisis could turn into a catastrophe for families.

YELLIN: And a photo-op from his number two.

VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: The economy is in trouble, and the need is urgent.

YELLIN: This team is on a belated campaign to sell the stimulus and answer charges it's just a whole lot of pork.

SEN. JON KYL (R-AZ): There is so much wasteful Washington spending in this bill, it's hard to know where to start.

SEN. LINDSEY GRAHAM (R-SC): We're on different planets. We're literally making this up as we go.

YELLIN: But with headlines like this, official Washington has already decided President Obama is losing the PR war on the stimulus.

STUART ROTHENBERG (editor, The Rothenberg Political Report): The Republicans have successfully defined the stimulus bill as too much pork.

YELLIN: It has been a rough week, dominated by stories about Cabinet-level tax flaps. When the president fanned out across the TV networks to combat attacks on the stimulus, the interviews were dominated by the Daschle news.

OBAMA: You know, I think this was a mistake. I think I screwed up.

YELLIN: And even on the topic of the stimulus, the president was on the defensive.

OBAMA: No, no, I don't think we've lost the message.

YELLIN: Funny, that doesn't sound a whole lot like this man.

OBAMA: We can change this country. In three days, you can turn the page. Tomorrow, at this defining moment in history, you, each and every one of you, can give this country the change that we need.

YELLIN: Change takes time. That's what President Obama says these days. Certainly more than two weeks. But how patient are the American people?

ROTHENBERG: I don't think Americans are very patient on this. They want action. They want something.

(end video clip)

YELLIN: The chattering classes are quick to judge President Obama, certainly quicker than the rest of the general public. But the issue to watch is the economy. For now, the economy is a problem President Obama inherited. The question is, how long until it's a problem he owns. He's going to be continue -- he will continue to be judged by expectations he set high, Lisa.

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    • Author by snoopy (February 06, 2009 8:06 pm ET)
         

      If anything puts the nail in the coffin about that claim of a liberal press, this would be it. But rest assured some moron will come along soon enough claiming the GOP finally forced the press to be "fair".

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      • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 1:09 am ET)
           

        Extremist. Well put. Love it. Liberal: "Hater of good, hater of God, Lover of democrat distortion and lies, you get the point dontcha Nanny?

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        • Author by snoopy (February 09, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
             

          I knew someone would come along fitting the bill, I'm just surprised it took 3 days this time.

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      • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 1:22 am ET)
           

        Snoopy, they won't print mine, nice comment. Mine was to dirty because it was only honest. Something diametrically (that's opposite or Radical Right {as in correct} Wing Radical, for you librals) opposed to allowing the stimbil to fail. And not quite "no,we can't.

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    • Author by foghornleghorn (February 06, 2009 8:09 pm ET)
         

      Many in the media have proclaimed the GOP the winner in the "stimulus message war"

      And, as always when the GOP wins anything, the loser is the American public.

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    • Author by carlileb5935 (February 06, 2009 9:32 pm ET)
         

      WICKER [video clip]: If you began spending $1 million per day on the day Jesus was born, and you spent $1 million per day every day since that time until today, you would still not have spent anywhere near $1 trillion.

      SHUSTER: It's hard to -- it's hard to battle against that stuff.

      Only if you're a moron. And besides, just think how much good stuff you'd have by now!

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      • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 1:27 am ET)
           

        To Shuyster:

        Since when is stuff good shyster? If that's all you think is important in this world, you'll never see the Really Good one that's coming, probably before "this administration" is finished. !!! on finished. ( at the very least hE will initiate the Trib.) You know who hE are.

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        • Author by commonsenseliberal (February 09, 2009 11:55 am ET)
             

          WTF are you talking about?

          What is it with you righties and your inability to post anything coherent?  Didn't you learn how to form proper sentences?

          It must be that right-wing disdain for anything related to education.

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    • Author by Galaticfederation (February 06, 2009 9:54 pm ET)
         

      Do you want would stimulate the economy? Giving it to younger people, What happens when young people get thier hands on money? they dont save most of it, they spend most of it. Older adults on the other hand save the money because they are afraid of being laid off or someone in thier families getting sick. Younger people will spend even if they have terrible credit or debt.

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    • Author by photomota (February 06, 2009 11:52 pm ET)
         

      It is no surprise at all that the agenda for the Republicans is to enrich their backers ln industry and media, rather than to allow their nemisis, Barack Obama, to effectively stem the downward spiral of the economy.  Tax cuts were foolishly enabled by the ever spineless Democrats.  I wish they would wise up and realize they are not dealing with "gentlemen of the opposition."

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (February 07, 2009 12:01 am ET)
         
      The republicans are delusional. Obama won the elections and knows why he won. Obama is well grounded with a strong rock steady support group of 65 million people that voted for him. The media can talk up the obstructionist prepublicans all they want and I am sure the electorate knows better.
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      • Author by MickD (February 07, 2009 12:20 am ET)
           

        That is unfortunately not the point. As long as the Repubs get 90% air time versus any solid information on this complex bill the overwhelming propaganda will chip away at the electorate (or at least the Repubs hope so). An informed electorate would have never voted for BushieCo if they were indeed "informed."

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        • Author by SteevK (February 07, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
             

          I watch (with the aid of my DVR) all 3 cable-news nets, and the Sabbath Gasbags, Sunday Mornings, on broadcast channels.

          What I have seen lately reminds me so much of 1993 (only WORSE, with the addition of FoxNewz and the expansion of RW hate-radio):

          1) From the moment Inauguration Week started (MUCH earlier on Fox), CNN & MSNBC have vowed/threatened "intense scrutiny" of Obama and the Democrats' agenda - this, after Bush's SEVEN-YEAR media honeymoon - and the constant meme that "Obama will have more trouble from his own party than from Republicans" - laying the groundwork for Repubs to blame Dems/Obama for everything the GOP does...
           
          2) The media above has been parroting  the RNC spin (sometimes directly, sometimes via Drudge, or AM hate-jocks) about the "Obama Stimulus plan." The pundits, talk-show hosts & guests (I swear I saw EVERY senate Repub given 5-10 minutes in the last 2-3 days, on MSNBC & CNN, while only allowing Democratic CRITICS - Ben Nelson, Kent Conrad.. - of the bill, to have their say) are all pointing to the same TINY expenditures - $20B for contraceptives & re-sodding the DC mall (1/40th of 1% each) which have been removed, but are still being bashed, $5M for the NEA (1/160th of 1%), etc. If the Dems concede these points and remove the above items, the GOP/RNC/Drudge will just come up with a new list of TINY items to ridicule. They've been playing this like an election campaign - the media has allowed the RW to define both the Obama/Dems' plan (BAD!), and their own plan(s) (GOOD!) 

          In addition, the media has been repeating GOP attacks on almost EVERY person Obama has named to his cabinet - except the Republican ones. The media pile-on is like nothing I've seen before! They've thrown a year's worth of attacks and smears - with a large dollop of ridicule - in just TWO WEEKS!

          The trillion-dollar question is WHY? In 6 words - our media is too well paid! Back in '93, Clinton & his Democratic majorities passed a recovery bill that raised taxes on the top 1% (which includes MOST media types). The media allied with Gingrich, DeLay, Lott, Limbaugh, the RNC, Luntz, et al, to bring Clinton down - by saddling him with far-RW GOP majorities in both houses, culminating with the impeachment/coup, and the savaging of Gore.

          When Bush unveiled his tax plan - with its massive breaks for the top 1% - back in '99, the media went into full swoon. Bush could do no wrong, Gore could do no right. He passed his plan (Funny, you didn't hear the media/GOP bitching about THAT $1.3 TRILLION, as they're currently screaming about the current ($819B) plan) and followed up with another massive give-away to the wealthiest, and still more, via cap gains and dividend taxes.

          If you take some of the media's high-flying news/pundits, for example, the late Tim Russert, who was making almost $30M salary at NBC. He was getting $1.38 MILLION shoved back into his pocket, every year Bush was in office - just from the income-tax cuts, I can't fathom how much he saved from cap-gains/dividend tax cuts...

          They've gotten used to all this extra money, and they don't want to get off the gravy train. Notice how the "liberal" media got behind McCain - once he stated, in a GOP debate, that, even though he had originally voted against them, he was in favor of making the Bush tax cuts permanent. Also, notice that EVERY interview of Obama or any Democrat, features - prominently - the question "You're not going to raise [MY!] taxes, are you? You CAN'T raise taxes on anyone [ME!] during an economic slowdown"

          Then, where does it go from here? Nobody knows, but I'll speculate: Obama was at almost 80%. Just the bashing he's been taking from the GOP/media has brought him down to 63%. So, they keep up the bashing - to tank Obama's numbers. The Repubs will filibuster virtually EVERY bill the Dems put up for a vote (house Repubs will just vote "NO", unanimously - then run against "an unpopular president and his do-nothing congress" and the media (in their dreams) gets to keep their massive tax breaks, and even add MORE high-end tax cuts!

          When America's in trouble, the wealthy can always be counted on to step up and fill their own pockets, with the "remedy." 

          Steev

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          • Author by historygeek001 (February 09, 2009 11:19 am ET)
               

            Nice post.  I couldn't have written anything like it without resorting to profanity.

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            • Author by commonsenseliberal (February 09, 2009 11:58 am ET)
                 

              Agreed, with both points - other than the profanity I was thinking of as I was reading the post!

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        • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 2:45 am ET)
             

          name your sources for that idiotic 90% number. Have you been watching nothing but FoxNews, you traitor to the MSNBC lies and slanders? They don't even get 75% air time on talk radio you liar. Would just 1 of you in the bag no matter how bad a bill is, And this is the worst one ever, tell anyone your sources? Of course not, that would surely find you out to be a liar. Cowards of a mag 12 on the Richter.

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          • Author by commonsenseliberal (February 09, 2009 11:59 am ET)
               

            Another incoherent post from a right-wing idiot.

            I thought MMFA had standards?

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    • Author by captfoster2 (February 07, 2009 2:52 am ET)
         

      Sad.... isn't it.... Schuster and Wolfe are always on Olbermann and Maddows show and yet... these two seems to find their way into MMfA line of sight every so often...

      But I digress... as Keith and Rachel become more popular...

      well.... time will tell

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    • Author by recoveringrepub (February 07, 2009 8:19 am ET)
         

      We are now up to 42% of the stimulus bill as tax cuts.  If tax cuts work, how did we get here?  Republicans combined tax cuts with other maleficent economic policies and 'mis'regulation to open the abyss that is now threatening to swallow up our country.  We need to do a 180 turn away from that ideology of greed.

      Why should the country ever listen to republicans about economic policy since they propelled us into this worst economic mess of our lifetime.  It is amazing that they still offer tax cuts as the answer to every problem even when it is irrelevant.

      I do not see the media seriously questioning the relative value of cutting taxes to spending as stimulus.  Why, even though economists consistently demean the impact of tax cuts.

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      • Author by oscar the grouch (February 07, 2009 9:55 am ET)
           

        Tax cuts, in and of themselves, will not solve the problem.  Haven't heard the final details, but there seems that there will be targeted tax credits for things like home buyers and maybe even car buyers.  How about a tax credit ($ amount to be determined) to every business/company/corporation for every net job increase in the US over a rather extended period of time (12, 18 or 24 months)? Just a thought, throwing it out for discussion.

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        • Author by recoveringrepub (February 07, 2009 11:11 am ET)
             

          Oscar,

          I don't know if they are characterizing tax credits as tax cuts.  Tax credits can be stimulative because it motivates people to spend on homes and cars.  This greatly leverages the tax money which is the best possible thing to do.  For example, if a car tax credit of $5,000 motivates a buyer to buy a $30,000 car, the buyer and/or a lender spends $25,000.  This then stimulates production requiring workers.  The buyer pays less and has lower payments, the lender has a better secured loan. win win win.

          I developed a complete auto stimulus plan along these lines and have sent it to 36 senators and the Obama public response website.  No apparent results.

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          • Author by fmbanker87 (February 07, 2009 11:24 am ET)
               

            don't expect any, those guys in d.c. have their heads up their butts.

            3 years and 50 weeks to go. 

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            • Author by snoopy (February 07, 2009 3:58 pm ET)
                 
              it's actually 1 year and 50 weeks. If you think the Dems are in charge now, wait until you see the supermajority we create in the senate by getting rid of even more dirtbag republicans.
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          • Author by SMTDL (February 07, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
               

            You are correct in pointing out the difference in the impact of tax credits versus tax cuts..I suspect there is so much excess inventory that tax credits would take time to actually stimulate production and require new workers. As you suggest they should be part of a stimulus package for the longer term impact.

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          • Author by oscar the grouch (February 07, 2009 12:53 pm ET)
               

            I don't know about the credit/cut characterization either. But a credit works out to be a cut in one form or another, except the hiring idea could put taxpayers back on the employment rolls and create some tax revenues. An auto tax credit may work in the short term, but the unsold inventory is so high it would take awhile to work that back to the production line, housing much the same at the moment.  I realize hiring has it drawbacks if there is no one out there to do the buying, we would just be building more inventory.  Outside a short term, quickly enacted payroll tax holiday, is there any way of getting money circulating again quickly?

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            • Author by fmbanker87 (February 07, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
                 

              tax cuts are the fastest wlay.  there really is no such thing as a shovel ready project.  sounds good, but it's b.s.  you need engineering, environmental reports, permits, etc.  obama is lying, and he knows he is lying about this crap.

              as for the energy grid, the nyt had an article today about the problems in constructing a new grid, such as environmental concerns and private property owners' objections.  also, it will lead to more coal use and drive out moreexpensive energy, like that made from nat gas.

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              • Author by eweston8542983 (February 07, 2009 3:24 pm ET)
                   

                Golly a tax cut fan. Who'd of thought it.

                Considering your history lesson a few threads back and other statements. I think you can be safely put into the population that has been wrong about nearly every important thing in the  last eight years.

                A good indicator of what not to do in nearly any situation.

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              • Author by oscar the grouch (February 07, 2009 3:32 pm ET)
                   

                I think you misunderstood what I said.  "A short term, quickly enacted payroll tax holiday" is a bit different than tax cuts, immediately puts around 7.5% of everybody's earned income into their pockets. This would allow time for the infrastructure projects to get to the shovel ready state, although I'm sure there are a few in each state that are close, that have been slid back due to the downturn. There would be a time limit on this holiday.

                You are right that we are far from the days of the 1930s when it was 6 months from FDR's inauguration until the first shovelful of dirt was turned on the Grand Coulee Dam (as was pointed out to me a week or so ago). If a project, such as an upgrade to the electrical grid, is proposed, it will probably be 18-24 months or more before construction can begin.  By that time, normal economic corrections will probably be in place. This is not to say the grid does not need upgraded, that and a lot of infrastructure work needs to take place in the next decade, no matter what.

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                • Author by GotKids (February 08, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
                     

                  My Grandpa worked on construction of the Coulee Dam. He is the only person I've ever heard speak of it before now. Oh.........OSCAR! (yeh, I watched)

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              • Author by snoopy (February 07, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
                   
                Considering the last round of tax cuts were used to outsource our jobs to China and India I'd say you don't really understand what you are asking for.
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                • Author by fmbanker87 (February 07, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
                     

                  how exactly does a tax cut result in outsourcing?  have you been drinking this early in the day?

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                  • Author by oscar the grouch (February 07, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
                       

                    Exactly how does a tax cut result in guaranteed job growth in the good old USA?

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                  • Author by snoopy (February 07, 2009 10:43 pm ET)
                       

                    Let's see, Michael Dell gets a bunch of tax cuts which frees up money. He uses that money to buy a new plant in india and another one in china, hires a foreign company to staff them up with foreign workers, and then gets them trained on building the same products. Once they are up to speed he closes down his plants in america and ramps up production overseas. That's one way I personally know of...

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      • Author by SteevK (February 08, 2009 11:48 pm ET)
           

        I do not see the media seriously questioning the relative value of cutting taxes to spending as stimulus.  Why, even though economists consistently demean the impact of tax cuts.

        One simple reason: people in the media are paid way too well. Those with 7 or 8-figure incomes have pocketed 6 and 7-figure tax cuts, during the rule of Bush & his neocons. I'm sure most of them start their day with a kiss for their GWB portrait - in thanks for all those top 1% tax cuts.

        Not only that, but I've been hearing Repubs & their media enablers exclaiming that this is the largest bill EVER. Have they forgotten their beloved $1.3T tax cut? Even adding prospective interest doesn't elevate this bill above the 1st Bush tax cut (which, if you add interest, cost more than $2.5T)

        .

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    • Author by jay_diamond (February 07, 2009 9:43 am ET)
         

      The central thing to understand aobut most "reporters" is that they tend to be lazy.  Mostly, in a radio station they read the newspaper (tabloids only!).  And in most newspaper newsrooms they grab whatever is on top of the pile of PR crap in the fax machine.

      SO.....They have talk radio on in the office and in their cars.....and the low-brow rightwing swill they hear on their radios finds its way into their "reporting".

      Low-brow rightwing swill radio has the power of a tsunami in creating a meme that rolls over the country and drowns sanity out in a torrent of crude rightwing lies.

      That is why the Fairness Doctrine is so threatening to the radio gargoyles.

      I say fine....no Fairness Doctrine.....BUT.....The first instance of political lying should be punsihable by a substantial fine.  The second instance of overt lying should be a ten=fold fine.  And the THIRD instance of political lying must be punishable by a prison sentence of not less than life imprisonment, as due punishment for corrupting the lives of every American citizen.

      Do the above and it will fix the currently abysmal non-ethics of low-brow, rightwing, talk radio instantly.

      And to paraphrase the right wing gargoyles...."What do they have to worry about unless they are lying".

      Now in reality....what they are worried about is the fact that limbaugh, hannity, beck, etc...(and all the little local lowlifes trying to be the next fat national rat) depend on rightwing lies as the red meat they toss out to the troglodytes who comprise a reliable listenership for their sordid crap radio.

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    • Author by goodguy1 (February 08, 2009 1:25 am ET)
         

      "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, THE TRUTH IS THE GREATEST ENEMY OF THE STATE." -- Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 

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    • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 1:05 am ET)
         

      Who is the "fearmogerer now? "We cannot afford this stimulus package failure". (paraphrase: mine) Yes. We Can! Mr. President.

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    • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 1:12 am ET)
         

      These people are too cowardly to post my comment because I am right. This stimuli CAN fail, Mr. Obama. "We can't allow it to fail" (paraphrase mine). Yes We Can Mr. President.

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    • Author by FrankLeeScarlett (February 09, 2009 1:17 am ET)
         

      I dare the author of this "news article" to namne 1 single "falsehood" any Republican has spoken about this totally foolish "bill". It's about as honest a "Bill" as clinton is is? Huh? is is? IS that the stoopitist thang a prezdint evr sed? We cannot allow this stimulus bill to fail".  YES WE CAN.  mr. president.

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    • Author by spitzermonger3981 (February 09, 2009 2:34 pm ET)
         

      David Schuster has been bucking for a spot on FOXnoise were he could double is salary since before he said that the Clinton campaign had "pimped out" Chelsea on the campaign trail.
       

      His parroting the Likud Party line last month while the IDF used white phosphorus and bunkerbusters on UN facilities in GAZA, is another example of his eagerness to transition into AIPAC's disinformation propaganda business.
       

      If he ever mentions this, I be a monkey uncle.

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