NY Times uncritically quoted Jindal's misrepresentation of Obama remarks
SUMMARY: The New York Times uncritically repeated Gov. Bobby Jindal's misrepresentation of a quote from President Obama, and quoting from an advanced excerpt of Jindal's speech, wrote: " 'A few weeks ago, the president warned that our nation is facing a crisis that he said "we may not be able to reverse," ' Mr. Jindal said. 'But don't let anyone tell you that we cannot recover -- or that America's best days are behind her.' " In fact, Obama stated that if his economic recovery plan were not passed, "we may not be able to reverse" the current economic crisis.
In reporting on the Republican response to President Obama's February 24 address to a joint session of Congress, The New York Times' David Stout uncritically repeated the misrepresentation of an Obama quote by Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, who delivered the response. In a February 24 online article, Stout reported that Jindal "sought to turn President Obama's recent words against him on the subject of optimism," and then quoted from an advanced excerpt of Jindal's speech: " 'A few weeks ago, the president warned that our nation is facing a crisis that he said "we may not be able to reverse," ' Mr. Jindal said. 'But don't let anyone tell you that we cannot recover -- or that America's best days are behind her.' " In fact, in the January 8 speech and the February 5 Washington Post op-ed in which Obama used the phrase "we may not be able to reverse," he did not suggest that "we cannot recover" or that "America's best days are behind her." Instead, he stated that if his economic recovery plan were not passed, "we may not be able to reverse" the current economic crisis.
Indeed, during his speech, Obama said that if his plan were not passed, "we may not be able to reverse" the crisis: "That is not the country I know, and it is not a future I will accept as President of the United States."
In his January 8 speech, Obama stated:
It is time to set a new course for this economy, and that change must begin now. We should have an open and honest discussion about this recovery plan in the days ahead, but I urge Congress to move as quickly as possible on behalf of the American people. For every day we wait or point fingers or drag our feet, more Americans will lose their jobs. More families will lose their savings. More dreams will be deferred and denied. And our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse.
That is not the country I know, and it is not a future I will accept as President of the United States. A world that depends on the strength of our economy is now watching and waiting for America to lead once more. And that is what we will do.
In his February 5 op-ed, Obama wrote:
What Americans expect from Washington is action that matches the urgency they feel in their daily lives -- action that's swift, bold and wise enough for us to climb out of this crisis.
Because each day we wait to begin the work of turning our economy around, more people lose their jobs, their savings and their homes. And if nothing is done, this recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse.
That's why I feel such a sense of urgency about the recovery plan before Congress. With it, we will create or save more than 3 million jobs over the next two years, provide immediate tax relief to 95 percent of American workers, ignite spending by businesses and consumers alike, and take steps to strengthen our country for years to come.
As Media Matters for America noted, Politico and MSNBC.com also advanced Jindal's false attack based on released excerpts of his response.
From Stout's February 24 article:
Not only has Mr. Obama indicated his willingness to tackle several problems at once, he has also pledged to cut the yearly budget deficits in half by the end of his first term. This will be accomplished, he said, by poring over federal spending ''line by line'' to eradicate wasteful or ineffective programs in areas as diverse as the Iraq campaign and aid to American agriculture. In his rebuttal, Governor Jindal said Republicans had lost the trust of the people -- ''and rightly so'' -- by forsaking party principles of limited government, fiscal discipline and personal responsibility. But he sought to turn President Obama's recent words against him on the subject of optimism.
''A few weeks ago, the president warned that our nation is facing a crisis that he said 'we may not be able to reverse,''' Mr. Jindal said. ''But don't let anyone tell you that we cannot recover -- or that America's best days are behind her.''
















Maybe Jindal and the media are using Hannity's wacky Lib-er-al Trans-la-tion machine.
I thought that - despite the input - the Hannity machine always returned the same result: "Harry Reid called our soldiers losers". Is this the Lib-er-al Trans-la-ti-fon 1.0.2b?
Oh oh, republicans, listen up. Your leader has spoken. Fall in line or face the wrath of rush!
Limbaugh Defends Jindal, Warns Conservatives They Are ‘Making A Real Mistake If They Go After’ Him
Har! That's great,Snoopy. The Oxymoron warning his fellow conservatives to resist reality. "Careful, you fools! You may not become quite as irrelevant as I am!"
I don't dismiss Rush's influence on the bottom rung of American voters, or the indirect effect of his BS through second-string radio hacks and wingnut email carpet bombing, but it looks like even some of the fringiest neocons are having uncomfortable collisions with the planet earth.
Pretty soon it'll just be Rush, Jindal, Hannity, Philib, Anutteramerican, and 6 or 7 old ladies from the Bible belt. All locked in the same rubber room.
I hope Rush leaves his Viagra at home or they will ALL be in trouble.
The bobble-heads over at Faux didn't seem impressed with Jindals speech. thinkprogress.org had this piece :
Fox Panel’s Verdict On Jindal’s Speech: ‘Childish,’ ‘Amateurish,’ ‘Not Exactly Terrific’
Lousiana Gov. Bobby Jindal’s (R) response to President Obama’s speech tonight received a universal thumbs down from the Fox News panelists, who are traditionally conservatives’ most gentle critics:
It will be interesting to hear what FatBoy has to say about it, if he mentions it at all.
I just posted the response above. Fall in line, comrade!
Wolf Kotenberg: Gov Jindal was pathetit, unitelligible and had very little to do with the actual pres Obama's remark.
That seems to be the consensus.
Obama's comment was not his finest moment despite the misrepresentation by Jindal.
Why?
Because it was fearmongering in my opinion.
Kind of like "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"?
yes exactly.
The difference is the "smoking gun" was based on lies. Obama's "fear-mongering" is based on the truth. Apples/oranges.
I don't disagree with you but Jindal still twisted it to mean something entirely different than what was said.
Rather than saying what he said, Obama should have said: "I along with my team of economic advisors has determined that this stimulus package is our best course of action for the American economy at the present time".
Saying that doing or not doing something may have permanent ramifications is not advisable, in my opinion. I believe Bush was guilty of doing that a few times as well.
It surely would be better to say that it would take much longer for the situation to fix itself than to say we may not be able to reverse it. I agree the impression of permanence that phrasing gives is over the top.
Okay!
Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), the longest serving Democratic senator, is criticizing President Obama’s appointment of White House “czars” to oversee federal policy, saying these executive positions amount to a power grab by the executive branch.
Why won't anybody on the right realize that nobody on the left cares about what Robert Byrd thinks? He's a racist, crusty old remnant of a Democratic Party that doesn't exist anymore.
He's one senate vote against anything that reeks of Republican policy. That's about all I have to say about him.
Obama was being realistic. He was painting a picture of urgency that assuems that we are adults; can handle the news; think ab out it and act according to our own analysis.
Bush's fearmongering was based on LIES. He insulted our intelligence by thinking he could frighten into going along with something that didn't make ANY SENSE AT ALL, and ultimately brought great harm to this country.
Well... there wereapparenlty enough people with so little intelligence than he coudl manage to do that. Thankfully those people's view has been supplanted by a better one.
Another day, another one of brucie's patented "blame the misquoted, not the misquoter" moments.
Gee, what are the odds.
I think Jindal the Exorcist may have a limited future in National politics. The Replutocrats think they can trot out anybody with dark skin and pretend to be a "big tent" party.
What they don't realize is that it really is about intellect and personality. You know, that "content of their character" thing.
You'll eat your words after Michael Steele entices the Hip Hop Generation to join the Republican Party.
Where do they find these guys?
Jon Stewart has had a lot of fun with Steele's Hip Hop "strategy".
Word up, Worrierking! (do the youngsters still say that?)
I am being entertained watching the GOP try to find the secret to entering the 21st Century. Their big plans for Palin to sweep up the female vote, the discovery of Jindal, with his much-darker-than-most -Republicans skin.
The cluelessness is hilarious, and all of resulting from the self-hypnosis they performed on themselves, obsessing on the idea that Obama is only where he is because he's black.
The people running the GOP remind me of those over-the-hill tv and movie stars in the 60s and 70s who used to put out their version of Beatles songs in an attempt to win back the young crowd.
Like Pat Boone?
I think the Replutocrats may discover that their Social Darwinist Trickle Up Religion doesn't sell so well any more.
The irony is that, if the Democrats succeed in cleaning up Bush's mess, the resulting prosperity will cause people to forget just how disastrous it was in the Time of the Troglodytes.
I know you meant to say that except for Bill Shatner's rendition of a Beatles song, right?
His version of "Rocket Man" is even better, speaking in terms of hilarious awfulness.
He does do one of my favorite songs, though, "Common People". No kidding.
No... NOTHING can top his "Mr. Tambourine Man."
This version of Eleanor Rigby is one of my all-time favorites.
Well there's Telly Sevales's (sp) prose version of "Why Can't I Have You." He does bust the producer for enthusiastic sucker sucking at the end. A Dr. Demento fav.
Wow. Thanks for that little trip down memory lane. My mother bought this Herb Albertalbum, and I recall it as one of my first boyhood sex fantasies.
http://franklarosa.com/vinyl/Exhibit.jsp?AlbumID=39
You had a thing for Herb Alpert, Nerz?
Just kidding, we had that record in the house too. As fascinating to me as the Goldfinger album cover as a young lad. Those could keep me entertained until Ellie May came on the teevee.
People...you are beginning to act like bad Conservatives.. Now stop it or I will personally tell D.A. Limbaugh
Yea, sort of like how Karl Rove won them over(hip hop Gen.) after his MC Rove skit! The Republican party is realing and really out of touch. Republicans have this afinity for putting "image" ahead of "reality." Sarah Palin to win over disgruntled Hillary supporters. Never mind that they are political opposites?!?They rely on old faded stereotypes and images that don't fit objective reality. Hip and going there and if by some little chance it did, it would cease to be hip-hop! Take my advice Michael Steele, " You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig!" Republicans have to change their message not just their clothes!!!
excuse me...I'll blame it on this old keyboard. Should read: Hip -hop ain't going there...
If I were the press, I would not hitch my wagon to Jindal (I know he's a Repub that's actually young..but). With each new nugget of attention, he seems to become more unhinged. Well, when the meltdown happens they will happily report on it (they love the downfall), but no one will ever be able to say "I told you so."
Actually Bobby Jindal wasn't as far off as it may seem. When Pres. Obama spoke, he was saying that the country would face a crisis that "we may not be able to reverse" IF the government didn't act. Bobby Jindal and the other right wing Republicans (don't call them "conservatives" because they aren't) are absolutely dedicated to seeing to it that the ability of the government to act is frustrated at every point. Therefore, he was sort of correct because, if they are successful (and given the support they've been getting from the MSM, they may well be successful), then we will in fact be in a crisis that we will not be able to reverse.
Well... a crisis for his party and political philosphy I suppose.
Perhaps the Times figured that by reporting that a Republican tried to twist Obama's words against him, they obviated the need to add "by falsely representing the original meaning." I mean, they said he was a Republican, right?
Obama did say we may not recover, but of course it was followed with something like, we have to sign this bill now or we may never recover. I remember a used car salesman saying that as well, "if you do not buy this car today at this deal, and when you walk away you will never get a better deal". Yet, many of you were suckers of the Used Car Saleman, and bought the car (bill) FYI, how many times did Nancy P stand up and clap, cause she sure could not sit still, and smiling like a school girl at a Jonas Concert.
Serves ya right for buyin' a used car from shrub, little fella.
Just like Obama I did not beleive him. I went for a new gas guzzlin SUV instead.
How'd that work out for you last summer?
Any inconvenience caused by the high gas prices was probably offset by the compensation factor of driving a big SUV, and the comfort of knowing he did exactly as Rush told him to do. That's ticking off those liberals!
Those dittoheads are such rational, independent thinkers.
IT was great, had a great summer.
I'll bet you leave all of the lights on all of the time too. And let the hot water leak too just to show those tree huggers, right?
The one that flipped over and exploded?
I live in New Orleans. Imagine what I feel like!
Jindal may be a fresh facr for the REPUKES but he is still spitting out the same tired and worn NEOCONSERVATIVE message we have been having to put up with for a while. All he is appealing to is rthe FAR RIGHT WING BASE of the party.
I am having difficulty seeing the so-called misrepresentation.
No doubt.
Just open your eyes and ears. the difficulty may disappear. But check with Rush first.
Oh. After I added the liberal bias to my brain I could see the misrepresentation.
Well done. Go Liberal Bias!