Covering for Limbaugh, Wallace ignores radio host's repeated statements that he hopes Obama "fails"
SUMMARY: On Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace purported to correct Gov. Tim Kaine's statement that Rush Limbaugh "has been saying that he wants the president to fail" by asserting that "Limbaugh says -- and I think if you read what he says, he wasn't saying, 'I want the president to fail' -- he was saying, 'I want his policies, his agenda to fail,' and that he disagreed with them and thought they were bad for America." In fact, Limbaugh has repeatedly said he wants President Obama to fail while also specifying that he wants Obama's policies to fail.
On March 8, Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace purported to correct Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine's (D) statement that Rush Limbaugh "has been saying that he wants the president to fail" by asserting that "Limbaugh says -- and I think if you read what he says, he wasn't saying, 'I want the president to fail' -- he was saying, 'I want his policies, his agenda to fail,' and that he disagreed with them and thought they were bad for America." In fact, Limbaugh has repeatedly said he wants President Obama to fail while also specifying that he wants Obama's policies to fail. On February 13, for example, Limbaugh said that he "oppose[s]" Obama's economic recovery plan and "hope[s] it prolongs the recession." He also said, "Of course I want Obama to fail. And after this stimulus bill package passes, I want it to fail."
Wallace's assertion that Limbaugh "wasn't saying, 'I want the president to fail,' was noted by Think Progress, which pointed out that on the January 16 broadcast of his radio show, Limbaugh did in fact say of Obama: "I hope he fails" -- a statement Limbaugh justified by pointing to Obama policy proposals he opposes. Indeed, Limbaugh's website features a transcript (subscription required) of that January 16 segment with a headline reading simply: "Limbaugh: I Hope Obama Fails."

Limbaugh has made similar remarks more recently. As Media Matters for America documented, Limbaugh said on February 27: "The dirty little secret ... is that every Republican in this country wants Obama to fail but none of them have the guts to say so; I am willing to say it. We want him to fail because we want to preserve our country as we found it. We do not want to see a successful attack on capitalism."
From the February 27 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show, as transcribed (subscription required) on Limbaugh's website:
RUSH: Okay. One of the things that I -- and this is not the magic trick -- one of the things that I absolutely love doing, and I have become an expert at it, I can do it any time I want, and that is tweaking liberals. I love irritating them. I love them gnashing their teeth. I love them just getting mad as hell at me. So when I say I want Obama to fail, I know full well that they are going to have a conniption fit, because I have violated political correctness. He's too big to fail because of the historic nature of his presidency. You can't wish the first black president would fail. "Why do you want your country to fail? That's a horrible thing to say. Why, only an idiot would say that." Well, we all agree, I'm not an idiot.
CALLER: No. But --
RUSH: The dirty little secret, Mary Ann, is that every Republican in this country wants Obama to fail but none of them have the guts to say so. I am willing to say it. We want him to fail because we want to preserve our country as we found it. We do not want to see a successful attack on capitalism.
During his February 13 show, Limbaugh said: "Of course I want Obama to fail. And after this stimulus bill package passes, I want it to fail."
From Limbaugh's February 13 show, as transcribed (subscription required) on his website:
I want everything he's doing to fail! His stimulus is not about creating jobs. It's about... Oh, we've been through this. I'm getting blue in the face talking about this. Anybody with a brain knows what's in this. Anybody with a brain knows that this approach has never worked. There's no evidence it's ever worked. It will be the first time. This is not about creating jobs. This is the exact opposite. This is all about rebuilding the Democrat Party into an unbeatable entity. It's about remaking the United States of America without the Constitution as the guiding light. Of course I want this to fail. Of course I want Obama to fail. And after this stimulus bill package passes, I want it to fail.
Let me give them some more fodder: I want the stimulus package to fail. 'Cause if this thing for the first time ever does what it never has done before, we're in even worse trouble. If it becomes established that the federal government and the federal government alone can manage the economy and take over the private sector, then forget it, folks. I'm looking for property in New Zealand, and I'm going to put my money in Singapore. I do not want this to succeed, and nobody who has any respect for the founding of this country and for the capitalist system, who is honest and who has looked at it, would want it to succeed either. We are being told it must succeed because it's Obama's. Well, what's such a big deal about Obama? Somebody tell me. Somebody tell me.
Later on February 13, Limbaugh stated, "Not only do I want Obama to fail, I want this package to fail. I want this to blow up in their face. I want this to be seen by the American people for what it is, nothing to do with getting them jobs, nothing to do with reviving the gross domestic product of this country." Still later during the same show, Limbaugh said of the economic recovery plan: "I hope it prolongs the recession."
From Limbaugh's February 13 show, as transcribed (subscription required) on Limbaugh's website:
I don't want people to be poor. I don't want people to be unemployed. I don't want people to be hopeless. I don't want people to be misled. I don't want people to be lied to. I don't want people to be told that somebody like government is going to do something for them when they're not. I want this to fail because this is the most expansive expenditure in the Democrat Party and liberalism's power that there has ever been. I hope it blows up in their face. I hope this thing does exactly what those of us who have studied these kinds of things do. I hope it prolongs the failure. I hope it prolongs the recession. Because people are going to have to figure out here that this is not how economies recover. Government is not the central planner. Government is not control of this. Government can't do it. This is a disaster. And, you know, I could sit here and say, "Yeah, I'm going to cross my fingers and hope and pray this is the first time this works," but if this works, the America that you and I know is over, Trevor, for your kids. It's over for a generation. It just is.
In his February 28 speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, Limbaugh described "[t]his notion that I want the president to fail" as "nothing more than common sense."
From Limbaugh's CPAC speech, as transcribed on Limbaugh's website:
Now, about my still-to-me mysteriously controversial comment that I hope President Obama fails. I was watching the Super Bowl. And as you know, I love the Pittsburgh Steelers. [Cheers and Applause] So they have this miraculous scoring drive that puts them up by four, 15 seconds left. Kurt Warner on the field for the Cardinals. And I sure as heck want you to know I hope he failed. I did not want the Cardinals to win. I wanted Warner to make the biggest fool of himself possible. I wanted a sack, I wanted anything. I wanted the Steelers to win. I wanted to win. I wanted the Cardinals to fail.
This notion that I want the President to fail, folks, this shows you a sign of the problem we've got. That's nothing more than common sense and to not be able to say it, why in the world do I want what we just described, rampant government growth indebtedness, wealth that's not even being created yet that is being spent, what is in this? What possibly is in this that anybody of us wants to succeed?
From the March 8 edition of Fox Broadcasting Co.'s Fox News Sunday:
WALLACE: Governor, isn't going after Rush Limbaugh a perfect example of the stale ideology and petty partisanship that the president was talking about?
KAINE: Well, it's not like Rush is a member of Congress, or, you know, or anyone of that kind. He's a radio personality who has been saying that he wants the president to fail. We wouldn't even be talking about Rush Limbaugh at all had he not said he wanted the president to fail -- and then he's found others in the party and party leaders who have either echoed that claim or, in the case of Chairman Steele, denounced the claim, which I thought was courageous, but then apologized to Rush Limbaugh.
So, I think there's an important point here. The billboard is a little bit of fun, admittedly, but there is an important point: At a time of crisis in this nation, nobody should be rooting for the president to fail. Both this country and the world needs him to succeed.
Now that doesn't mean that everybody has to agree with everything. I thought Senator McCain kind of said, "Look, we should be a loyal opposition, working together, disagreeing when we need to but always finding areas of agreement." If that is the spirit, then we're going to do fine. If we have people out there praying for the president to fail and trying to rally folks around that, we need to push back on that.
WALLACE: All right.
KAINE: That's just not the right message for the time.
WALLACE: Governor, we have to leave it there. I do want to point out, though, just as a point of information, that Rush Limbaugh says -- and I think if you read what he says, he wasn't saying, "I want the president to fail" -- he was saying, "I want his policies, his agenda to fail," and that he disagreed with them and thought they were bad for America. But fair enough.















Frank Schaeffer sums up the republican party quite well:
I'm sure that the rabid right will be turning on him tomorrow (even though his dad helped create the religious right)...
That's an excellent summary of what's going on with the Republicans. I can only hope that if Obama succeeds in implementing policies that can help businesses and taxpayers, many of the "fringenuts" will actually be swayed by that.
When I was in college I played a game called "Squad Leader". At the time it was rated the most realistic war game in existance. In the german/russian scenarios one of the interesting facts they incorporated was russian fanaticism. Whenever a russian unit was fired upon there was a slight chance they would turn fanatic - when that happened the russian unit would charge the nearest german unit to engage in hand to hand combat and would not lose fanatic status until they were either killed during the charge or won the hand to hand engagement.
It may be just me, but seems to me the fringenuts are in fanatic mode right now.
Never expect fringe nuts to acknowledge anything. By the way, wonder what Chris's dad would think of his right-wing news reporting if you can even call his biased statements reporting. More like a very slanted opinion piece.
god knows if the rapture does come, these morons will be the ones left behind.
This is not true. If you are as shallow enough to believe this, then you are easy prey.
"I think if you read what he says, he wasn't saying, 'I want the president to fail' -- he was saying, 'I want his policies, his agenda to fail.'"
That's about as bald-faced as a lie gets.
A pure and abosolute liar.
I typed this earlier today on another thread about Limbaugh and the 'fail' remarks.
For some silly reason, some on the right are trying to claim that Limbaugh walked back that terrible thing he said (that he hoped that Obama would fail) by qualifying it that he wanted Obama's policies and actions to fail.
How is that different? How is that better? Obama's policies are going to be implemented. If they fail, he fails. And the nation suffers.
Posted Sunday March 8, 2009 1:06:19 PM EDT
I was flipping channels and playing the old "let's see how long I can leave it on Fox News before they lie" game, and I swear I heard this exact exchange like 3 minutes ago.
Either I'm in a time warp, or MMFA is very good at this.
...or Fox plays their morning shows in the afternoon.
I wouldn't have figured that. I'd figure they'd either do the Headline News thing or just play infomercials until they get to their main programming ("Eleven Hours With Hannity" and "Huckabee Seems To Lean Right For Some Reason").
One more potato chip and Limbaugh will explode. Wallace will be right there, under Ol' Rush's chair, waiting for some crumbs to fall his way. Gotta hand it to Wallace, though. He is a real team-player.
Rush talks off-the-cuff for hours in a job that demands he be incendiary. So I honestly think it's not fair to attack him for his "deep end" moments.
What's more fair is to attack him for his carefully-considered policy positions that are repeated over and over again and are based on lies and failure.
It goes to the larger point about how media figures can be fired for a hate-filled comment but suffer no consequences for being wrong hundreds and hundreds of times. I'd rather have the "hate" people stay and the wrong people leave. A listener can easily judge if they want to listen to hate. But they can't easily judge if they're being lied to.
Some folks ride the short bus and some ride the longer ones. Your post tells me which one you rode/ride.
The neocon crowd wants us to believe that Rushbo only meant that he hoped Obama's liberal agenda would fail, not Obama himself. And they only went this far after it was brought home to them by the majority of pundits that a wish for Obama's failure is a wish for America's failure. This ignores the fact that Obama was wishing Obama's failure -- with none of the "policy" clarifications -- long before he made his pompous, fat-headed, pogo stick pronouncements on the subject at the C-PAC convention. Now, they are creating a counter-distraction by claims that the Administration fabricated a distraction by having the White House press secretary go after Mr. Oxycontin with claims he is the unofficial "head" of the GOP. Of all the pundits who have commented on all this, only Matt Taibi of Rolling Stone had it exactly right: "Rush is a fat, pill popping idiot."
What kind of real American says he hopes the President fails? Barack Obama is the person we, the people, elected. NOT Rush Limbaugh.
you just answered your own question
Exactly.
I believe that each family is only allotted a certain about of integrity. Unfortunately for Chris Wallace, his father Mike Wallace got their entire family's integrity allotment.
:-)
its not integrity, its intelligence and chris wallace was on the short end of the gene pool
I don't understand. If someone is pointing a gun to his head should I
hope he succeeds? This discussion is ancillary to the issues.
If Obama's policies are bad for the country, should someone who
disagrees with him hope he succeeds? Don't argue with exactly how
he expresses that thought. Otherwise, you also have to explain that "now is
not the time for profit" and last weeks recommendation to invest in
the stock market or a promise to use federal campaign funds and then
not using them.
How is a 1.8 trillion dollar increase in dept going to help the
economy? How is taxing small businesses going to grow the economy?
If someone gives 100% of their salary to charity and then the IRS
comes in and says "You still owe us money." how does that help America?
Obama seems to be confusing his priorities of social policy with
the economic emergency. The economy is accelerating downwards and
he is focusing on health care -- not the banking crisis.
More and more people are becoming unemployed and he is
saying that "a bankrupcy occurs every 30 seconds that is blamed on
health costs" [probably not a precise quote]. That statement is
patently false. Is this a scare tactic to get people to support
his health care agenda?
The Stimulus bill offers some money this year, a little more next
year and a little more the following year. He has nullified Welfare
Reform. He talks down private business which creates 80% of the jobs in this
country. He hems and haws about government takeover of the banks.
Is there any wonder people are not confident that the
economy will improve? People still like him (63% approval) but
there is no confidence at all in the economy which is seen by
the market plunges. I see Obama at the same position as Herbert
Hoover in March of 1930. Hoover took the dow averages from a
50% downturn to a 89% downturn by July, 1932.
Will Obama do the same?
EGB,I believe you are wrong. I see GEORGE W.BUSH IN THE POSITION OF his REPUBLICAN coutterpart of the early 1930's HERBERT HOOVER. I see OBAMA as similar to HOOVER'S successor FDR.
Since Obama is the current decision-maker, and it will be his policies that are implemented, then yeah, Rush should not wish that Obama or Obama's policies fail.
If Obama fails (or his policies fail), that will hurt America. Rush can wish that a Republican gets elected, but once Obama got elected, no patriotic American should wish that Obama not accomplish his goals of saving the economy.
If Rush thinks that Obama's policies are bad for the country, he should try to elect someone the next go-round that better fits his ideals, but in the meantime, Rush should hope that he (Rush) is wrong and that Obama's ideas, although not ideal from Rush's point of view, will actually work.
In a perfect world, we wouldn't want to increase the debt, but we have no other solution to a deep recession like this besides massive government spending. It's not Obama's fault that the USA is already in a debt hole! It's the only solution we have!
And I really, really, really hate this strawman about taxing small businesses. First off, it's only small businesses that net more than $250,000, and it's only the income above $250,000 that matters. Second, that tax doesn't even take effect until 2011!
Not to mention it is raising the tax rate to where it was under Clinton, when the economy was booming. It is alos not Obama raising ttaxes. The tax cuts were temporary and set to expire in 2011.
"If Obama's policies are bad for the country, should someone who
disagrees with him hope he succeeds? First of all who says Obama is wrong? But, Yes he should hope that Obama is not wrong because that is the course the president has chosen and if it is wrong we are all screwed. The well being of the country is more important than ideology.
Why do you insit on using so many incorrect talking points. the idea behind fixing helath care is that it will save us Billions of dollars in the long run.
"How is a 1.8 trillion dollar increase in dept going to help the
economy?" Easy by stimulating the economy. Ever heard of spend money to make money. The private sector is not spending money so the Federal gov neeeds to fill the void.
What is your point about giving 100% of your salary to charity? Under the current tax code there is an AMT so those people would still owe the IRS money.
Please provide verification that the bankruptcy claim is patently false. Just because you don't believe it does not mean it is false.
Here's an idea, actually do some research before you post here because you look uninformed.
No. Obama is President forever, so we can recover when he screws up just like we are trying to recover now after the democrats screwed the housing market. Nothing is irreperable.
No, nobody wanted us to fail in Iraq. People just didn't want our troops dying for an unworthy cause.
Remember, your favorite example is Harry Reid. He said we would lose if we continued with Bush's strategy. In other words, he said that Bush was going to fail, and he wanted him to change his ways so that he would succeed.
Well, I am glad that did not happen. (Speaking of wanting failure pal) Women are liberated and an awful dictator is dead.
I do not consider that a complete failure.
Why do you republicans still think that George Bush's Iraq War was ever "winnable"? You people constantly say that the Democrats want America to lose in Iraq, but you never bother to mention what winning is. Is it getting things back to as good as they were under Saddam? Considering how bad things are over there that's a lofty goal, and if it is the goal, why did we attack, invade, and occupy the country in the first place? There is no "winning" or "losing" George Bush's Iraq War, and only ignorant hypocrites say that people want America to "lose" in Iraq.
Banker, the difference is this. It's like a doctor telling you that you have six months to live versus a doctor telling you he hopes you only have six months to live.
so logically you think that this whole economic slide downward is just a big lie, like the rational for the war in Iraq? or do you subscrible to Phil Graham's assertation that we are a nation of whiners and are in a mental recession?
cause thats what you seem to be implying here
BUSH didnt need DEMOCRATIC help to fail, He did that job spetacularly all on his own.
They helped. They did and that is the facts. There is just as much blood on their hands.
and lets not forget one thing. fox news had a very funny show the 1/2 hour news hour, that i have literally just discovered while cruising youtube, there are at least two clips where rush is president of the US. and guess who his VP is Ann Coulter.
now i think i udnerstand more why Rush wants president Obama to fail....he is looking to run himself!
REALLY? Why would he want THAT job? Geez.
To work at Fox you have to be an ideologue not a journalist. I remember as a kid watching Brit Hume in his raincoat actually reporting news. The person disappeared once he joined Fox. the same thing happened with Chris Matthews. If you have to trade your principles to get a job, well what have you really gained?