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Fox News hosts tout myth that 60 or more Gitmo detainees are known to have returned to battlefield

March 11, 2009 3:25 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Fox News hosts Sean Hannity and Brian Kilmeade advanced the myth that 60 or more former Guantánamo Bay detainees are known to have, in Hannity's words, "gone back to the battlefield." However, according to the Pentagon, only 18 former Guantánamo detainees have been "confirmed" to have "return[ed] to the fight," while an additional 43 former detainees are "suspected" of having done so. Even the Pentagon's "confirmed" figure has been questioned by analysts.

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During the March 10 edition of his Fox News program, Sean Hannity stated of former prisoners at Guantánamo Bay: "[W]e know there's about 60-some-odd detainees that have gone back to the battlefield." The next morning, on Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade similarly asserted, "Sixty have already gone -- gotten released and gone back into action." Hannity and Kilmeade cited no evidence for these claims. However, according to the Pentagon, only 18 former Guantánamo detainees have been "confirmed" to have "return[ed] to the fight," as Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented. Indeed, during a January 13 press conference, Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell stated: "The new numbers are, we believe, 18 confirmed and 43 suspected of returning to the fight. So 61 in all former Guantanamo detainees are confirmed or suspected of returning to the fight."

Even the Pentagon's claim that it has confirmed that 18 former Guantánamo detainees have "return[ed] to the fight" has been questioned by analysts. For instance, CNN national security analyst Peter Bergen stated on the January 23 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 that "returning to the fight, in Pentagon terms, could be engaging in anti-American propaganda, something that's not entirely surprising if you've been locked up in a prison camp for several years without charge." Bergen further stated: "[W]hen you really boil it down, the actual number of people whose names we know are about eight out of the 520 that have been released [from Guantánamo], so a little above 1 percent, that we can actually say with certainty have engaged in anti-American terrorism or insurgence activities since they have been released. ... If the Pentagon releases more information about specific people, I think it would be possible to -- to potentially agree with them. But, right now, that information isn't out there."

Additionally, as Media Matters has noted, Seton Hall Law School professor Mark Denbeaux has disputed the Pentagon's figures, asserting that the Defense Department's most recent "attempt to enumerate the number of detainees who have returned to the battlefield is false by the Department of Defense's own data and prior reports." Denbeaux has written several reports about Guantánamo detainees, including reports challenging the Pentagon's definition of "battlefield" capture and the Pentagon's published detainee recidivism rates. From a January 15 Seton Hall press release:

Professor Denbeaux of the Center for Policy & Research has said that the Center has determined that "DOD has issued 'recidivism' numbers 43 times, and each time they have been wrong -- this last time the most egregiously so."

Denbeaux stated: "Once again, they've failed to identify names, numbers, dates, times, places, or acts upon which their report relies. Every time they have been required to identify the parties, the DOD has been forced to retract their false IDs and their numbers. They have included people who have never even set foot in Guantánamo -- much less were they released from there. They have counted people as 'returning to the fight' for their having written an Op-ed piece in the New York Times and for their having appeared in a documentary exhibited at the Cannes Film Festival.

In the January 13 Pentagon press conference, Morell discussed how the Defense Intelligence Agency determines whether former detainees are suspected or confirmed of having "return[ed] to terrorism" and asserted that "engagement in propaganda ... does not qualify as terrorist activity."

From the March 10 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

HANNITY: And we continue now with our "Great American Panel."

All right. While we're all paying attention to the economy, we've got the Gitmo detainees -- five of them, charged with planning the 9-11 attacks -- have filed a document with the military commission at Gitmo, expressing pride at their accomplishment and accepting full responsibility for killing nearly 9,000 people -- about 3,000 people.

Why would we ever release these people and give them, for the first time in the history of warfare, give them constitutional rights?

S.E. CUPP (columnist): They're not criminals, so we shouldn't. They're sociopathic terrorists.

HANNITY: They're enemy combatants at a time of war.

CUPP: Absolutely. Absolutely. They don't deserve a Miranda. They don't deserve habeas corpus. They deserve to sit in jail for the rest of their natural lives or until Al Qaeda surrenders. Period. It's not hard.

HANNITY: If the 9-11 Commission report is right, Michael, that they declared war on us and we're fighting a war, and we know there's about 60-some-odd detainees that have gone back to the battlefield, why for the first time ever would we give rights to enemy combatants?

MICHAEL BROWN (Democratic strategist): I don't know. I'm going to agree with you on this one, Sean. I'm --

HANNITY: I am shocked.

BROWN: Are you stunned? It's happened -- it's happened a couple of times, believe it or not.

HANNITY: No, it has.

BROWN: I -- I don't understand --

HANNITY: Bad idea, right?

BROWN: -- I'm with S.E. I think you can give some rights because we still are America, and we deserve to treat people like human beings. But the bottom line is when they committed the acts they committed against us, I don't know why they need to see the light of day again.

From the March 11 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

KILMEADE: Does it stun you, for someone who's looked Taliban and Al Qaeda in the face and hunted for them on the ground of Afghanistan that we have ignored this, our enemies on Page 17 of The New York Times.

GARY BERNTSEN (former CIA operative): Sadly, I'm not surprised because during the war in 2001 I turned to all my men and said, within five years everyone will be looking for every mistake that we made and people will try to prosecute us because America will forget.

KILMEADE: Sixty have already gone -- gotten released and gone back into action. One is the Southern commander of the Taliban. This guy, Zakir is his new nickname, he is now marshalling up troops, training them, festering that hate. He was given back to the Afghan government in 2007, and they released all five -- 12 of them.

BERNTSEN: Well, he was captured up in Konduz, you know, in the second week of December of 2001. Many of the prisoners, Gitmo folks who have said, oh, we're innocent, we were there doing business. They made up all sorts of excuses and if there wasn't hard evidence because they were captured in such large numbers, people have given them the benefit of the doubt. I'm gonna say something, the Bush administration released him. This was not the Obama administration that released him.

KILMEADE: Because the courts had turned on them.

BERNTSEN: The point was we needed to deal with this a lot faster than we did. We let this thing delay and like a fine wine, it doesn't get better with time.

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    • Author by Victor Colorado (March 11, 2009 3:30 pm ET)
         

      Note to Media Matters: Morning Joe did the same today.

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      • Author by jwcoop715110 (March 11, 2009 10:13 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, they all sing from the same talking points hymnal pulled straight from Herr Rove's butt. 

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (March 11, 2009 3:34 pm ET)
         

      If FOX knows so much, and if it was really doing its job, it would give us the name, description and last know whereabouts of each of the 60 so we could keep an eye out for them.  ;>)

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    • Author by jamesB (March 11, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
         

      what is mmfa worried these detainees are getting a bad rap from the media, and that we should be extra careful in saying they are "suspected" and not "confirmed" of returning to kill Americans?  Even after they express such joy in doing so?  me not so worried.

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    • Author by thomp.steve9098 (March 11, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
         
      What's Obama's plan for these devotees to the religion of peace when Guantanamo is closed?
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      • Author by snoopy (March 11, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
           

        a trial in a court of law.

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        • Author by thomp.steve9098 (March 11, 2009 4:10 pm ET)
             

          Much easier said than done. What will be the standard of proof to convict these guys?  What was the standard of proof for the 60 above-mentioned detainees who were released, all of whom are suspected of returning to their religious calling and 1/3 or whom are confirmed to have done so?

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          • Author by funnymanpants (March 11, 2009 4:19 pm ET)
               

            >>What will be the standard of proof to convict these guys?

            The same as for anyone charged with a crime.

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          • Author by rtwmd1230 (March 11, 2009 4:29 pm ET)
               

            "What was the standard of proof for the 60 above-mentioned detainees who were released, all of whom are suspected of returning to their religious calling and 1/3 or whom are confirmed to have done so?"

            You'll have to ask the guy who released them all without taking them to trial: George W. Bush.

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          • Author by loonz (March 11, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
               

            I'm not sure it has anything to do with religion.  It's probably the culture of “an eye for an eye”.  If a country had locked you up for years without charges and possibly tortured you, would you let it go or would you try to get back at the country (especially with a recruitment agency on every corner)?

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          • Author by jwcoop715110 (March 11, 2009 10:20 pm ET)
               

            Confirmed by whom, little factually-challenged fella? Flush?

            In other words, your factose-intolerant butt wants to lock up anyone practicing the "religion of peace" until ya can figure out what to charge them with since they may or may not attack us at some future, undetermined date in a location to be named later.

            Nice try. No sale.

            If you can't charge somebody with something after seven years, ya got bupkis and they never should have been picked up in the first place.  Besides, if they weren't terrorists when they were locked up, they may well be when they leave.

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              • Author by thejbomb65 (March 12, 2009 9:35 am ET)
                   

                 to quote an episode of Countdown

                "If you had the devils in the cage....why did you release them"

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          • Author by thejbomb65 (March 12, 2009 9:34 am ET)
               

            i imagine the same as the milleium bomber bennie norris

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        • Author by loonz (March 11, 2009 4:11 pm ET)
             

          First we have to charged them with something.

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      • Author by dbeden4153 (March 11, 2009 4:06 pm ET)
           

        Oh I don't know, holding them in our supermax security prisons right here in the good ol' US of A doesn't seem like such a bad option.  We do, after all, have the best prison system in the world. 

        Jon Stewart, naturally, said it best:

        http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=216571&title=Guantanamo-Baywatch---The-Final-Season

        Yeah, I'll take the system that can hold the brain-eater guy too.

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    • Author by wesley (March 11, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
         

      I agree with the premise posed by mmfa...the number "60" is being thrown around for pure political motives and not objective reporting.

      Having said that...Prof. Denbeaux is practicing the same thing from the other end of the political spectrum. The link provided to his press release provides charges with no documentation.

      It's all a partisan mess...with our national security at stake. There are plenty of juvenile delinquents on both sides of the issue.

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      • Author by funnymanpants (March 11, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
           

        >>Having said that...Prof. Denbeaux is practicing the same thing from the other end of the political spectrum. The link provided to his press release provides charges with no documentation.

        The very first link is a PDF with tons of documentation.

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        • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (March 11, 2009 6:03 pm ET)
             

          Sure, a pdf. The ones that wingnuts can't search.Very convenient.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 11, 2009 4:16 pm ET)
         
      I appreciate FOX trying to fill up 24/7 with propaganda and finding it difficult to do. What that tells me is this three or four day story in the recent past being discussed ad infinitum actually accomplished nothing if they find a need to ressurrect it. Oh wait a minute, It is the hannity show. Almost forgot.
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    • Author by Caseysprings (March 11, 2009 4:40 pm ET)
         
      I saw this last night, McCains daughter is quite the smear merchant.
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      • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 11, 2009 5:18 pm ET)
           

        Well, do tell...

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      • Author by snoopy (March 11, 2009 7:20 pm ET)
           

        See if y'all can guess this song!

        I'm too dependant on Rush, too dependant on Rush,
        Rush's going to lead me

        I have nothing to reply, no need to even try
        So clueless it hurts
        And I'm too stupid to respond, too stupid to respond
        In all of my posts
        And I'm too lacking of a fact
        Too lacking for your post
        No way I'm linking data

        I'm a wing nut, you know what I mean
        And I write my angry venom on my blog post
        Yeah on my blog post, on my blog post yeah
        I stamp my little feetsies on my blog post

        I'm waiting for Rush to say, waiting for Rush to say
        My response for today
        And I'm too dependant on that
        Too dependant on that, what do you think of that

        I'm a wing nut, you know what I mean
        And I write illogic statements on my blog post
        Yeah on my blog post, on my blog post yeah
        I write my factless statements on my blog post

        I'm waiting for my Rush, waiting for my Rush, waiting for my

        'Cos I'm a wing nut, you know what I mean
        And I post my little response on my blog post
        Yeah on blog post, on my blog post yeah
        I shake my little fisties on my blog post

        I'm defending right wing nuts, defending right wing nuts
        Poor right wing, poor right wing nut
        I'm too dependant on Rush, too dependant on Rush
        Rush's going to lead me

        And I'm still waiting on my Rush...

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 11, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
         
      Again, it was pres Bush that let them go and we all know pres Bush would never release terrorrits.
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      • Author by princeofwheels (March 11, 2009 5:27 pm ET)
           

        When are we going to change the color code to the next level, either up or down?

        I am worried that Fox news isn't worried about our safety since they never even mention what color we are under today. With all of these criminals released back into the world, one would think the chances of a problem should increase. I suggest that Fox begin each segment of every show with a reminded of todays color.

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 12, 2009 9:38 am ET)
             

          i still get my 3 day warning of any terror alert from dept of homeland security courtesy of fixed news. and my 20 percent discount at dave's discount house of falafel.

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    • Author by jmh (March 11, 2009 5:23 pm ET)
         

      Seems that percentages might be more telling on the significance of this number.

      Not to mention that Hannity never tells a story in good faith or accurately or in full. And aside from some superficial, presumptive benefit of having detained these individuals, was anything actually gained from their detention? Highly debatable... Debate, something that Hannity would not approach  even if it paid him.

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    • Author by flamingpieman (March 11, 2009 7:34 pm ET)
         

      As has been said a couple of times here, and by (I think) a couple different posters, the point that shouldn't be forgotten is that these 18 and 43 people, whatever they've returned to, WERE RELEASED BY "THE DECIDER" HIMSELF. (Maybe he wanted to give 'em a chance to 'bring it on' again, to prove how good he was at keeping us safe.)

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    • Author by IRONY 101 (March 11, 2009 11:12 pm ET)
         

      I'm curious why, if these detainees were so dangerous, they weren't killed by Dick Cheney's secret assassination squad, the Joint Special Operations Command?

      http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring

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    • Author by progressiveright (March 11, 2009 11:37 pm ET)
         
      Can FOX News show me a reperatal source for these nombers that is not disputed by another reperatal source. No, then do not quote the numbers untill they are proven.
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    • Author by slick50x9598 (March 12, 2009 2:17 am ET)
         

      Actually, this article is fairly idiotic.  Analysts are analysts and I'm quite sure that "analysts" may also find 150 ex-Gitmo prisoners on the battlefield.  As a military member, I personally don't care how many terrorists are recycled, when they're captured, the only evidence I have is that they were shooting at me.  I didn't read them any rights in Arabic, I just capture them.  "suspected", "confirmed" and putting them in quotes will make this a less pertinent smear-site than it already is.

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    • Author by slick50x9598 (March 12, 2009 2:42 am ET)
         
      I don't think I'm allowed to join this discussion if I don't jump on the bandwagon that this is President Bush's fault. I was merely pointing out the fact that us troops on the ground in Afghanistan really don't care whether there's 18 "confirmed" returning combatants, 43 "suspected" combatants, nor another additional 50 combatants that returned that are not suspected nor confirmed, perhaps working in support (money launderers, cooks behind the lines, medics). I just want to get it done.
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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 12, 2009 9:47 am ET)
           

        i wish you the best of luck. god bless you

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      • Author by skeptical (March 12, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
           

        Hey slick,

        What's your point?  As a military member, I would think you would be very interested in whether we were turning regualkr people into combatants.  That would make your life/job harder than it should be.

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