CNN's King asked Cheney several leading questions, inviting him to hammer Obama
SUMMARY: Interviewing former Vice President Dick Cheney, CNN's John King asked Cheney several leading questions, most premised on conservative or Republican talking points, that provided Cheney ample opportunities to attack President Obama. For instance, King asked Cheney whether he "believe[s] the president of the United States has made Americans less safe" by reversing several Bush administration's national security policies and whether he agrees with "the conservative weekly Human Events" that Obama is "trying to brazenly deceive the American people."
In an interview during the March 15 edition of CNN's State of the Union, host and CNN chief national correspondent John King asked former Vice President Dick Cheney several leading questions, most premised on conservative or Republican talking points, that provided Cheney ample opportunities to attack President Obama. For instance, King asked Cheney whether he "believe[s] the president of the United States has made Americans less safe" by reversing several Bush administration's national security policies -- echoing repeated claims by Cheney and former President Bush during their legacy tour that their administration's policies were responsible for "keep[ing] the nation safe." King also echoed dubious talking points by asking Cheney whether Obama's budget proposal is "consistent with what he promised in the campaign" and by claiming that "there is a debate in this town about whether the president is trying to do too much, too fast." One of King's leading questions to Cheney -- "[i]s the president of the United States trying to brazenly deceive the American people?" -- was even based on an article by "the conservative weekly Human Events."
Among the questions King asked Cheney were the following:
- Teasing the portion of the interview in which he would ask Cheney about Obama's national security policies, King stated: "When we come back, President Obama has made some significant changes to the way the United States fights the war on terror. Will those changes put the country in more danger? We'll ask former Vice President Dick Cheney when our exclusive interview continues in just a moment." During the segment, King stated that Obama has "announced he will close the Guantánamo Bay detention facility" and "CIA black sites around the world," and that Obama "will make CIA interrogators abide by the Army Field Manual, defined waterboarding as torture and ban it, suspend trials for terrorists by military commission, and now eliminate the label of 'enemy combatants.' " King then asked Cheney: "I'd like to just simply ask you, yes or no: By taking those steps, do you believe the president of the United States has made Americans less safe?" On-screen text read during this portion of the interview read: "CHENEY ON TERROR THREAT: Obama's programs making Americans less safe."
As Media Matters for America has documented, Bush and Cheney have repeatedly asserted in recent months that, in Cheney's words, "we've managed to keep the nation safe from further terrorist attacks for the last seven and a half years." However, an April 2008 Government Accountability Office (GAO) report found that "[t]he United States has not met its national security goals to destroy terrorist threats and close the safe haven in Pakistan's FATA [Federally Administered Tribal Areas]." And investigative journalist Ron Suskind has reported that many CIA analysts believe Al Qaeda leaders have declined to attack the United States again for strategic reasons, not due to the Bush administration's counterterrorism policies. Further, the degree to which several terrorist attacks the Bush administration supposedly thwarted were credible threats has been disputed.
- Earlier in the CNN interview, King said to Cheney: "You learn a lot about an administration, especially a new administration, when it puts forward its first budget. ... When you look at that budget -- $3.6 trillion, redirecting the government's resources in health care, in energy, in the environment; also, a pretty large $1.75 billion [sic: trillion] deficit the first year out -- do you think that is consistent with what he promised in the campaign, or do you think he's overreaching his mandate?"
As Media Matters has noted, many media conservatives have recently embraced and promoted the accusation that President Obama has "lied" or broken promises. In many cases, these accusations are based on distortions of comments he has made or misrepresentations of campaign pledges. For instance, many media figures have advanced the false claim that Obama promised during his campaign to stop earmark spending and broke that promise by signing the omnibus appropriations bill, when, in fact, Obama promised to reform the earmark process and cut wasteful spending, not eliminate earmarks altogether.
- King also said to Cheney: "As you know, there is a debate in this town about whether the president is trying to do too much, too fast." King then asked Cheney: "I know you don't like a lot what he is trying to do, but if young Richard Cheney was in the chief of staff's office down the hall from President Obama, not Rahm Emanuel, would you be saying, Mr. President, you're trying to do too much, too fast? Or given that he wants to do so many things and at the moment he is quite popular, would you say, you know what, it's a little risky, but let's go?"
King's comments echoed other media that have highlighted claims Obama's "plate" is too "full," suggested he has "bit off more than he can chew," or otherwise given credence to the accusation that the president has loaded his agenda with unrelated items when he should be focusing on the economy. Many media figures, like King, have reinforced the idea without challenge. However, Obama and his aides have asserted that Obama's initiatives on health care, energy, and education reform are inextricably linked to the economy and have made the case that reforming health care, education, and energy will have economic benefits.
- At one point, King even acknowledged he was basing a question on an article by a "conservative" newspaper. Holding up a copy of Human Events, King said to Cheney: "This is a newspaper many Americans might not recognize, but I read it and I know you read it." Cheney quickly replied: "Human Events." King then stated:
It's the conservative weekly Human Events. And in the lead article this week, they call it "Obama's brazen deception to sell agenda." Essentially the point you just made -- that they have, under the umbrella of an economic crisis, you must support us, there is urgency to act now, that they are putting, in this newspaper's view, a lot of items like health care, like the environment, other priorities and saying, we have to do this all now. Is the president of the United States trying to brazenly deceive the American people?
As Media Matters noted, during the March 13 edition of CNN's Anderson Cooper 360, King distorted a recent comment by Obama about the economy, and also misrepresented Obama's September 2008 criticism of Sen. John McCain for saying that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
From the March 15 edition of CNN's State of the Union:
KING: You learn a lot about an administration, especially a new administration, when it puts forward its first budget: $3.6 trillion, that's a lot of money. And as you know, it would redirect a lot of the government's priorities -- essentially, President Obama has said almost every day, what he has said is a repudiation of many of the priorities you have.
When you look at that budget -- $3.6 trillion, redirecting the government's resources in health care, in energy, in the environment; also, a pretty large $1.75 billion [sic] deficit the first year out -- do you think that is consistent with what he promised in the campaign, or do you think he's overreaching his mandate?
CHENEY: Well, I didn't like what he promised in the campaign. I frankly disagreed with it. And obviously, they won the election. He's the president of the United States. He gets to put forward the program he wants. But those of us who are of the other political faith, obviously, get to comment on it and try to improve on it and suggest alternatives.
And, frankly, I think the programs that he's recommended and pursuing in health care, in energy, and so forth, constitute probably the biggest or one of the biggest expansions of federal authority over the private economy in the history of the republic.
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KING: As you know, there's a debate in this town about whether the president is trying to do too much, too fast. This is The Sunday Ledger-Enquirer in Columbus, Georgia, and a Knight Ridder story here about, "Is Obama trying to do too much too fast?"
You have a unique perspective. You have been the White House chief of staff. You served in the Congress in the minority party. You were in the cabinet in the first Bush administration and then vice president for eight years. I know you don't like a lot what he is trying to do, but if young Richard Cheney was in the chief of staff's office down the hall from President Obama, not Rahm Emanuel, would you be saying, Mr. President, you're trying to do too much, too fast? Or, given that he wants to do so many things -- and at the moment he is quite popular -- would you say, you know what, it's a little risky, but let's go?
CHENEY: Well, that's somewhat analogous to the situation we had. We came in after probably the closest election in history, a five-week recount of the Florida vote. And we got a lot of advice at the time that we should change our program because the election had been so close. The president, rightfully, I thought, rejected that and said, "Look, this is what I ran on. We're going to improve our military capabilities, we're going to cut taxes, we're going to do No Child Left Behind," and we did it. We did not allow the critics to diminish what we were trying to accomplish. So from the standpoint of what the Obama administration is trying to do, I can't argue that they should pace it or anything like that. I think that's -- those are all tactical calls they've got to make. What's much more important is the substance of what they recommend, and that's what I disagree with.
KING: You disagree with it. I want to show you one more newspaper headline in this segment. This is a newspaper many Americans might not recognize, but I read it, and I know you read it.
CHENEY: Human Events.
KING: It's the conservative weekly Human Events. And in the lead article this week, they call it "Obama's brazen deception to sell agenda." Essentially the point you just made -- that they have, under the umbrella of an economic crisis -- you must support us, there is urgency to act now -- that they are putting, in this newspaper's view, a lot of items like health care, like the environment, other priorities and saying, we have to do this all now. Is the president of the United States trying to brazenly deceive the American people?
CHENEY: Well, I think they've taken liberties, if you will, with the arguments. Given the importance to the country and to all of us of having a healthy economy and getting the economy back on track, it seems to me an administration does have an obligation to set priorities and go after that first. It also occurs to me that one of the tools that's most important to doing that is tax policy and cutting taxes, especially for those who invest and create wealth and create jobs. That's not what we're seeing.
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KING: Well, since taking office, President Obama has done these things to change the policies you helped put in place. He has announced he will close the Guantánamo Bay detention facility. He has announced he will close CIA black sites around the world, where they interrogate terror suspects. Says he will make CIA interrogators abide by the Army Field Manual, defined waterboarding as torture and ban it, suspend trials for terrorists by military commission, and now eliminate the label of "enemy combatants."
I'd like to just simply ask you, yes or no: By taking those steps, do you believe the president of the United States has made Americans less safe?
CHENEY: I do. I think those programs were absolutely essential to the success we enjoyed of being able to collect the intelligence that let us defeat all further attempts to launch attacks against the United States since 9-11. I think that's a great success story. It was done legally. It was done in accordance with our constitutional practices and principles. President Obama campaigned against it all across the country. And now he is making some choices that, in my mind, will, in fact, raise the risk to the American people of another attack.
KING: That's a pretty serious thing to say about the president of the United States --
CHENEY: Well --
KING: -- and commander in chief of the military. So I want to give you a chance, because many people will say, Vice President Cheney just said Barack Obama, President Obama is making us less safe, more at risk, which you just said. I want to give you a chance -- and take as much time as you want -- to prove it. Because you put that list up there, and I know you say there have been three cases, I believe, of waterboarding in the past, and you say that specific things have been prevented. I know some of this is classified intelligence, but now that you're out of government, to the degree that you can, tell the American people, because of those tactics, because of those, yes, sometimes extreme tactics, we stopped this.
CHENEY: Well, I would say that the key to what we did was to collect intelligence against the enemy. That's what the terrorist surveillance program was all about, that's what the enhanced interrogation program was all about.
KING: But another 9-11, because of a tactic like waterboarding or a black site, can you say with certainty you stopped another attempt to do something on that level?
CHENEY: John, I've seen a report that was written based upon the intelligence that we collected then that itemizes the specific attacks that were stopped by virtue of what we learned through those programs. It's still classified. I can't give you the details of it without violating classification, but I can say there were a great many of them.















"Shooting an old man in the face is the least evil thing Dick Cheney has ever done."
-Tee-Shirt I saw over the weekend
You know, at first I'm like "WITH?" But after reading more of the item, I could't help but think, "Gee, it must be nice to be interviewed by your biggest fan."
Isn't it treason to talk down the president's policies in time of war? Oh, I forgot, IOKIYAR.
OT, but it's no surprise that now that Palin isn't VP her daughter isn't getting married. I guess republicans can call it campaign family values.
Jon Swift actually has a very funny article about this, arguing that conservative unwed teenage mothers are better than liberal unwed teenage mothers. What's even funnier is that ACTUAL conservatives took him seriously and more or less agreed.
the conservatives of today are much different than the conservatives I had debates with in high school.Today they are a party of deficit spending, the hell with constitutional law and assume the Supreme Court is at their disposal. I actually think in this decade the libertarians faithfully approximate conservatism.
See, that's the thing, though. I think to assign any political orthodoxy at all to the modern "conservatism" movement is still overestimating it's aims. I think "conservatism" and "liberalism" after September 11 became benchmarks for how much you agreed with George W. Bush. It wasn't a political party so much as an authoritarian cult of personality built around George Bush, which is ironic because now we're getting accused of thinking Barack Obama is the messiah. Notice it's when he was exposed beyond any doubt as a liar and thief that the party truly fell into the directionless disarray we currently find it in.
To be honest, I don't consider this a particularly new aspect of the movement at large, either. George Bush was just a logical extension of what began under Reagan. There really isn't much different from the two presidencies. Deficit spending? Tons. Illegal wars? Illegal and secret, to boot. Bloating and expansion of government? Drug War, anybody? Ridiculously high military budget? Corruption? 138 officials investigated, indicted or convicted is a pretty damning number. Reagan even appointed Antonin Scalia, an ideologue if there ever was one.
Conservatism has long been an excuse for the wealthy to engage in Caligula-esque excess at the expense of the poor and middle class. I hope you went to high-school sometime during the Johnson administration, because I think that was about the time real conservatism died.
Very true. Although, I was in school during Reagan and the first Bush and did not realize how far off the "right" wing was from my own beliefs about America until I was old enough to know better. I never would have thought it possible but the G-Dub administration has actually made me prefer being called a "liberal" to being called a "conservative". But, you are absolutely correct in your analysis of modern day politics. There is essentially nothing conservative about conservatives anymore.
King is a conservative. At least he plays one on his Sunday morning show. Give me a break with asking Cheney if Obama is making America less safe. 9/11 was on his watch, the deaths in Iraq were on his watch and the loss of trillions of dollars in Amercan wealth was on his watch. But I guess Human Events didn't report on it so John King must have missed it.
AND the anthrax terrorist attack was on Cheney's watch -- the terrorist attack the media pretends never happened while agreeing with the lie that "we haven't been attacked on US soil since 9.11". Tell that to the victims on the athrax attack - the 2nd attack on US soil during Cheney/Bush's impotent watch.
AND the victims of Katrina were left to die on American streets without any federal assistance for almost an entire week - despite plssing away millions on the Homeland Security Republican feeding trough for the 3 years preceeding that catastrophe.
THE WORST administration in our nation's history in dealing with national security is inarguably the Republican Cheney/Bush administration. Yet, as self-evident as that is, and the fact that the perpetrators of BOTH terrorist attacks on American soil during the Cheney/Bush years were never apprehended or even pursued, the MSM continues to allow the weak, incompetent, massively inept, Republican party to boast of being "strong on national security", and NEVER points out to Cheney, Bush, et.al., the 9.11, Anthrax, and Katrina ALL happened on THEIR watch!
I was impressed that he reads the Columbus Georgia Ledger-Enquirer, the 128th media market in the US.
To think King had to read 127 other papers to find one that wouldn't print the GOP talking points. What a dedicated journalist!
It's ok John to ask him tough questions,he can't hurt you now..er you're not a snake in the grass are you John?
I am guessing king thinks if he asks tough questions Mr traitor will never come to his show again and get good ratings.
King doesn't know what a follow up question is, does he?
He set up the unemployment numbers, the federal deficit (skipped the $5.1 TRILLION federal debt increase during the Bush/Cheney years) and then Cheney's big response was...after much fillibustering....
"STUFF HAPPENS"
I'm looking forward to Joe Biden saying "stuff happens" to the Wall Street Journal editorial page staff.
Joe Biden better go thru his residence and look for bugs left over from " the big one '.
If only someone would walk up behind Dick Cheney with a bull horn (with Dick having no clue it is about to occur)... and blow the thing right up next to his ear...
Even his pace maker couldn't save him.
I for one would not miss him... he ain't human anyways.
No thanks to Dick... my future grandkids are going to feel the damage done by him and his un-American posse!
I am sorry but that goes against every fiber of my being to wish harm on anyone even one as evil as Cheney is the second worst thing you can do to that person. Actuly doing the harm is the worst.
OK, then, I wish him karma.
I don't think even a right-wing suck-up like Ted Koppel would have done something like this. It is clear that King has his own agenda, and it is coloring his recent journalism. He's trying to make a career out of Obama's success. The right-wingers are desperate for outlets to pound their message, and King is trying to capitalize on that. CNN ought to be careful. They might wake up one day and find Rush Limbaugh hosting the news. Aaaaagh!
Asking Dick Cheney his opinion about Obama's policies is like asking Bernie Madoff his opinion on the judicial system. Why is this awful person given air and face time on national television other than in a court of law? The destruction and shame he caused this country must be examined thoroughly by the courts if we are ever going to look ourselves in the mirror. The tragic thing is we will not see this happening.
That's what a lot of these talk show host do - they present a republican talking point as a question to allow a republican to run with it or to immediately put a Democrat on the defensive. FOX "News" is the master of this technique.
That piece of garbage CHENEY lies every time he opens his mouth. If I remember correctly, his popularity and credibility is around 12%. Why CNN gives thi liar air time is beyond me. His opinions are irrelevent and he deserves to be thrown in prision.
we're less safe because cheney's chief of staff outed an undercover cia agent, along with karl rove. they destroyed an entire network built up over years and put the lie to any promises by our agents that overseas contacts did not have to worry about having their identities revealed to their home government. you can be sure when valerie plame's name was revealed that governments all over the world immediately investigated all her connections.
not to mention that rove and libby should have been fired the minute their involvement was revealed. the security clearances they signed required them to know for sure that information, plame's identity, was declassified before discussing it, much less giving it to reporters. they also had a duty to see it was not disseminated if it was about to be released, as it was by the traitor novak. instead, rove confirmed it.
now cheney cries the blues because poor scooter didn't get a pardon. cheney's only concern is for the welfare of his fellow traitors and liars. we're also lucky that the white house or capitol wasn't a smoking ruin on 9-11, because bush did nothing that entire morning to respond to the situation.
Jonn King is a disgrace. You could tell the interview had pre-arranged parameters and that Cheney only agreed to do it if King wouldn't delve into certain, shall we say, embarrassing areas, such as the question that would have been first if Tim Russert had done the interviewing no holds barred: Seymour Hersch's upcoming expose' of the secret White House hit squad. You very correctly point out that the entire drift of the conversation seemed pegged to the upcoming memoirs of the Bush Administration's No. One Creep, the man who guided White House strategy for eight years. (You thought Dubya was running the show? Watch the HBO comedy special with Will Farrell.)
King wouldn't even go after Cheney on Iraq, allowing the no good s.o.b. to perpetuate the myth that Iraq was a haven for terrorism (discounted ages ago) and even allowing Cheney to avoid use of the term "mission accomplished" with reference to post-surge events on the ground. When are these people going to see that there is nothing they can do to alter the certain judgment of history that Bush Jr. was our worse chief executive; that Iraq, our very worst foreign policy decision, cost us enormous treasure in blood and money, destabilized the Mideast, and helped plunge this nation into the worst recession in our 200+ year history. And all for what? The moment our troops are withdraw, an emboldened Iran, waiting in the wings, will come in and install an iron man like the one we helped escort to the hangman's noose.
CNN should hang its head in collective shame, and King should be excoriated in the media. He should be let go so that he and that horse-faced wife of his (Dana Bash) can take their ugly mugs away. Might I suggest a second honeymoon. In Baghdad.
Correct JM!!!! This was disgraceful..just set up questions..one after the other!Did he challenge Cheney on anything?? It was very much a Fox News type interview..he just didn't smile and laugh and jump up and down in agreement like Hannity would have done!!!!Why no question about the hit sqaud which apparently reported directly to Cheney ..that was something new and had never been explored before!Cheny always says the Iraq war was a success but never is challenged on his standard answer that "the world is better without Saddam Hussein" with no real evidence of that.Would Iran be as big of a problem?Has it helped Israel broker any peace agreements!? Cheney just gives opinions while ignoring the cost and wasteful war spending by his friends at Halliburton with no bid contracts.How about the Blackwater scandals?? What a missed opportunity to really challenge Cheney for more accountability!!!!
John King lost my respect as a serious media journalist yesterday. I am certain that I am not the only former CNN watcher that feels this way.
Thank god for Media Matters! I heard this yesterday while I was working in the kitchen and I was astounded by the way King was making the entire case then handing it off to Cheney for affirmation. Cheney didn't even have to tax himself to answer...King gave him all the ammunition! No follow ups of course.
Last month I saw King "interview" John McCain. McCain sat there making ridiculous statements about President Obama that you could drive a truck through. King just sat there nodding his head in agreement! Some journalism!
A few other questions posed by King to Cheney...
-- Just about every day I assume you're reading the newspapers now that you're out of office, the president says, well, we have got a lot to do but it's not my fault, I inherited a mess. Did you leave him a mess?
-- There are people I assume watching this interview right now, and people in this town who would say, why should we listen to you? And they would say that because of the context of the Bush administration numbers.
-- They would say, you know, what did you do when you were in charge? And they have some numbers to back up their case.
-- But I think some Americans say, wait a minute, he was the MBA. Dick Cheney was the veteran Washington insider and a CEO who came back into government. How could they have not seen this coming?
-- are the feelings about this war based on the fact that the American people think they didn't get what they were sold?
-- Is that a cloud on your legacy, that Osama bin Laden is still out there?
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Blah, blah, blah... yawn. More fear and paranoia. Sorry, that is so quaint.
And buster brown conveniently forgot to cite the wingnut website this rant was plagiarized from.
"the admin has gone from one failure to the next?" Uh, the guy's been in office like, 51 days and you believe it's fair to write him off, given the fact he's inherited (yes INHERITED from Bush) the worst financial crisis this country has had to endure in Eighty years, INHERITED TWO wars, both of which were utterly mismanaged by the previous administration, Cheney's pointless opinions withstanding, and you honestly expect people to call him a failure after he's been in office LESS than TWO months??? You Are Brilliant!
Hey Dick, you are no longer President, we do not care what you think or about your little 'warnings', blah blah. You and your so-called 'values' have been renderd irrelevant. Your way of doing things with the 'terror spectrum' and other dumb gimmicks is now in the past so shut your damn face. The country - minus the terminally stupid 20%ers and a couple of dummies here - will appreciate it.
funny thing, where are all the W and Dick defenders and whitewashers that would usually be all over this stuff.......guess they finally see the absurdity of trying to defend the indefensible.
can you imagine trying to justify to St Peter on Judgement Day letting Dick into heaven?
Darth Cheney, a man with a 13% approval rating after the enormous amount of good will and rather counter-intuitive support the world offered post 9-11. Are you serious?? Maybe John King can interview the CURRENT V.P. next??
I guarantee there will be much less editing, much less qualification.
Or perhaps we should expect a comedian to do the journalist's job, eh Jon Stewart??
and your honor, Mr. John King for the defense...
the Hague
I think the Presidents Press Secretary should keep track of the week's media misstatements and false charges and answer them all before taking questions.
MM does a great job of correcting these rightwing attacks but I'd like to see a larger audience exposed to spin free fact.
Cheney must feel safer these days. He's not hiding in his bunker 24/7.
Obama must make him feel moe secure.
King lost any credibility with that interview
tony and lido
REPUBLICANS GOES ON CNN NOW BECAUSE THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH LIES. AND THAT KING INTERVIEW SHOWED THAT.
They've been getting away with their lies for years! The media needs to stop giving these evil men a stage on which to perform their FREAK SHOW. Go away and stay away, Dick Cheney!
Yawn. Cheney's opinion and a dollar will buy yoy a can of soda.
John King just sat there and nodded as Darth Cheney lied over and over. This guy is a journalist? Not even ONE follow-up question? Not one critical question?
Ugh...
This clip is an excersize in typical repulican tactics. Cheney and King are engaged in simple public brainwashing. We actually pay to watch this stuff.
Cheney was wrong claiming that Obama's cuts to military spending and deballing of the CIA and NSA has put Americans at greater risk.
Only the people who populate major cities (the targets for an "American-Hiroshima" scenario) - chiefly, urban liberals and welfare types - have been placed at greater risk. Even though they may die by the millions during a major terrorist attack, most of "red state" America and the good people who live therein will be just fine.
Whats really funny is that you think your small mindedness is cleaver! Hey, and did you hear the liberals and welfare types think the earth is round!