Dobbs falsely claimed Pelosi said "immigration law enforcement is, quote-unquote, 'un-American"
SUMMARY: On his radio show, Lou Dobbs asked his guest for his "reaction" to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi "saying last week that enforcement in the workplace, immigration law enforcement is, quote-unquote, 'un-American.' " In fact, Pelosi criticized as "un-American" immigration raids that separate undocumented parents from their documented children, not "immigration law enforcement."
On the March 23 broadcast of his syndicated radio show, Lou Dobbs asked Center for Immigration Studies senior research fellow Jerry Kramer for his "reaction" to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) "saying last week that enforcement in the workplace, immigration law enforcement is, quote unquote, 'un-American.' " In fact, Pelosi did not say that "immigration law enforcement" in general is "un-American." Rather, during a March 7 speech Pelosi gave as part of the national Family Unity tour led by leaders of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, Pelosi criticized as "un-American" immigration raids that separate undocumented parents from their documented children.
From Pelosi's speech (full video available here and here):
PELOSI: That optimism, that hope, that courage, that determination of immigrants, of your families, when you arrived here, made America more American. You brought with you your tradition of family values, of faith, of community, of responsibility. How then could America say it's OK to send parents of children away? What value system is that? I think it's un-American. I think it's un-American. I want to join [Rep.] Luis Gutierrez [D-IL] in saluting the families for their courage, for their generosity in spirit -- of spirit, to share their stories; Ivan and Guadalupe and Yvette for sharing their story about their families. Because no politician's speeches could ever be as eloquent as their personal testimony about what their family has experienced.
Who in our country -- who in our country could not be moved by their stories? Who in our country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families? It must be stopped. It must be stopped.
From the March 23 edition of United Stations Radio Networks' The Lou Dobbs Show:
DOBBS: Every way in which we have more empirical evidence of what is happening and the consequences of public policy choices that we're making -- or in the case of illegal immigration, as often as not, the public policy choice is to avoid the choice and to avoid enforcement of our laws. Just very quickly -- your reaction to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi last week saying enforcement in the workplace, immigration law enforcement is, quote-unquote, "un-American."
KAMMER: It makes you wonder if Mrs. Pelosi thinks there will ever be an immigration policy or immigration law that's worth enforcing. It makes me think of Barbara Jordan, someone I think is one of the great Americans of the past hundred years, who ran a special congressional commission on immigration.
Mrs. Jordan died in 1996, but two years earlier, when she submitted her report to Congress, she said that if we're gonna have an immigration policy that's coherent, that means something, that's good for the country, we have to be able to set rules and establish criteria. And that those who don't meet those rules and don't fit those criteria will not be allowed to come. And if they insist on coming illegally, she said, they're gonna have to go home. Barbara Jordan said we have to be able to say no to people who violate our immigration policy. She said that's a policy in the national interest; apparently, Speaker Pelosi, you know, doesn't agree with that at all.
DOBBS: Right. And being joined today by Archbishop George -- Cardinal [Francis] George suggesting further relaxation of enforcement. I don't know how you could relax our enforcement much more of immigration laws in this country.















Another false quote from Lou? Does it even sound like a reasonable statement? Is it the kind of thing you'd like your political opposite to say? Will the wingnuts believe it?
I suppose the last is a gimme.
Today's recap:
Miss any?
Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was.
This is not my beautiful country!
Hey, Snoop. What about that there birth certificate? An' don't fergit that he's a...a....Mooslim. Huh? Huh? Huh? An' what about that house him and the wife got fer practiclly nothin'? Is he still pallin' 'round wid terrisses? Whut happened to that reverend of "the Church of What's Happenin' Now"? Cain't 'spec much from a (Heh, Heh) co-munity orgainzer.
Snoop. Off topic, but I got a job offer today. I have to move, but that's no big deal. I consider myself super lucky. I have hit the panacea of jobs. As in, less work, and more money. You can't beat that really.
Hope all is well.
Congratulations Mag.
Congrats, bro! I'm very pleased you were able to get a quick turn around. I'm still hitting the pavement, trying to keep from moving until at least after my daughter's graduation this june.
High five.
I hope you will continue to post here. Less work! You'll have no excuse!
That's great news. Here's hoping you land on your feet and keep running.
Well, to be fair to Dobbs, apparently spittle wasn't flying from his mouth and his head wasn't spinning like a top. Way to keep your blood pressure from spiking, Dobbs!
Gee, that's a shame. I hope he's ok.
another fine canidate for 2009 Misinformer of the Year
Millions are unemployed and Pelosi is welcoming illegal aliens. Americans work hard and Pelosi celebrates the "heroism" of illegal aliens. California is falling apart under the weight of illegal immigration and Pelosi opposes repatriation.
"Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." - Adam Smith, economist and ethicist
Everything you need to know about immigration and what to do about it humorously told.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBw1nUlf38I
(Roy Beck and NumbersUSA are the "gumball" heroes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7WJeqxuOfQ
And another litter of straw babies is brought into the world. Mother and scarecrow are resting comfortably.
It's starting to look like that scene in The Wizard of Oz around here.
"They tore off my legs and they threw them over there! And they tore off my arm and threw it over there!
Dobbs, he don't like the brown men and women too much apparently.
What I really like is how these guys, like Dobbs, and or Beck, are always claiming, "We're not republicans. We're independents/libertarians". Or something else that is just as silly.
A Libertarian is just a Republican who wants to smoke dope.
And wants to be able to put an RPG through your window if he changes his mind.
Libertarian: a pro-choice, pot-smokin' Republican
How convenient that you cropped the quote right before she connects the two issues.
Congratulations. There's a job for you at Fox News.
False dichotomy. Elian was taken, and sent BACK to his father.
Nobody said raids to catch illegal aliens was bad.
Actually, Dick2012 said that. Since he was the first to say it (no one he attempted to quote said any such thing), it must be his statement.
And besides that, even the part that Cheney quoted very clearly was about separating families. That's more specific than "immigration law enforcement", so Dobbs' claim would be misleading even if the cropped quote was a complete one.
That turn was taken long ago.
Dobbs and his racist xenophobic tripe is more unamerican than anything Pelosi has said.
Leprosy Lou to the rescue. Don't let a little thing like accuracy get in the way, the first N in CNN is just a suggestion. If NumbersUSA's talking points say she said it, well then it must be true, to paraphrase what you told Leslie Stahl on 60-Minutes. That was one of the more famous examples of Lou getting busted for using unchecked material fed to you by anti-immigration advocacy groups.
Illegal immigrants with documented children are still illegal immigrants. Pelosi was refering to a tactic of what Dobbs rightly called "Immigration law enforcement." And she called it "un-American."
What's 'un-american' is for a national party leader to try to subvert the rule of law in her own country. She's in a position to change the law, or at least lead an effort to do so. What she does is a puff of moralistic posturing that does the whole issue more harm than good. What leadership! What vision! What a bunch of horse-dung!
But then, hey - she's a Congressional Democrat. What's she got - a 9% approval rating?