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LA Times erased word "torture" in describing Obama nominee's criticism of Bush administration

March 25, 2009 2:47 pm ET
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SUMMARY: The Los Angeles Times reported that State Department general counsel nominee Harold Koh "call[ed] a 2002 [Bush administration] memo justifying harsh interrogation methods a 'stain on our national reputation.' " But Koh has repeatedly referred to the conduct sanctioned in the memo as "torture" -- a word the Times did not use.

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In a March 25 Los Angeles Times article, reporter Paul Richter ignored State Department legal adviser nominee Harold Hongju Koh's repeated references to "torture" in his criticism of the Bush administration's interrogation policies. Richter wrote that Koh is "one of the most vocal critics of the Bush administration's approach to the detention and trial of terrorism suspects, calling a 2002 memo justifying harsh interrogation methods a 'stain on our national reputation.' " But Koh has repeatedly referred to the conduct sanctioned in the memo as "torture" -- a word the Times article did not use. Indeed, during the January 6, 2005, Senate Judiciary committee hearing at which Koh asserted that the memo "is a stain on our law, a stain on our national reputation," he immediately followed that by calling it "a legal opinion that is so contrary to a zero tolerance policy, which has a definition of torture that would have exculpated Saddam Hussein, that reads the Commander in Chief power to remove Congress as a check on torture that turns Nuremberg on its head and that gives Government officials a license to be cruel is wrong from the beginning."

During the hearing, which concerned then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales' then-pending nomination as attorney general, Koh characterized the 2002 memo as "giv[ing] the Executive Branch a license to dehumanize, degrade, and act cruelly, notwithstanding the Fifth Amendment's rejection of government acts that shock the conscience and the Eighth Amendment's rejection of any 'cruel and unusual punishments.' " In his testimony, Koh listed "five obvious failures" of the memo:

First, it asks, ''How close can we get to the line,'' when, in fact, it is supposed to be enforcing a zero tolerance policy.

Second, the way that it defines torture would permit many of the things that Saddam Hussein's forces did during his time as not torture. Just for example, the White House website lists that beating, pulling out of fingernails, burning with hot irons, suspension from ceiling fans were all acts of torture committed by Saddam Hussein's forces. Nevertheless, under the [former Assistant Attorney General Jay] Bybee memorandum, if they did not cause serious organ failure or death, they would not constitute torture.

Third, as I said, the memo grossly overreads the President's constitutional power to order torture. If the President has a constitutional power to order torture in the face of a criminal statute preventing it passed by Congress, it is not clear why he could not similarly order genocide or other kinds of acts.

Fourth, the memorandum says that executive officials can escape prosecution if they carrying out the President's orders as Commander in Chief. This is the ''following orders'' defense which was rejected in Nuremberg and is the very basis of our international criminal law.

And, finally, an important point, the Bybee memo essentially is very tolerant with regard to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. A convention against torture, and cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment is read to permit various kinds of cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment. And even today there was some lack of clarity in Mr. Gonzales' answer about whether U.S. officials are barred from cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment.

Similarly, in a March 2008 Washington Monthly article, Koh described the memo as a " 'torture opinion' ... which concluded that U.S. officials can order the torture of suspected terrorists with impunity." He continued:

When the opinion was written, the governing policy was zero tolerance of torture. The new opinion essentially asked, "How close to the line can we come when abusing people?" It narrowly defined torture as "[p]hysical pain ... equivalent in intensity to the pain accompanying serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function, or even death." Such a definition would exonerate torture techniques used by Saddam Hussein's security services, including electric shocks administered to the genitals and burning with blowtorches.

The opinion undermined the basic human rights principles set forth at Nuremberg. It also twisted the U.S. ratification of an international treaty against torture and cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment, somehow arriving at the conclusion that the agreement condoned such abuses. In effect, the opinion licensed the executive branch to commit future Abu Ghraibs by degrading and dehumanizing detainees in U.S. custody, regardless of whether they hold any information of value in the war against terror.

From the March 25 Los Angeles Times article:

Harold Hongju Koh, an outspoken advocate of human rights and international law, has been chosen to be the top lawyer at the State Department.

Koh, dean at the Yale Law School, has been one of the most vocal critics of the Bush administration's approach to the detention and trial of terrorism suspects, calling a 2002 memo justifying harsh interrogation methods a "stain on our national reputation."

If confirmed as State Department legal advisor, he would have a key role in dismantling the Bush administration's approach to that issue and others.

[...]

Koh has been among those who have argued that terrorism detainees should be handled through the federal court system. Critics of this approach contend it would give accused terrorists procedural advantages and a soapbox to preach their views. It also could jeopardize intelligence information and cooperation from other countries, critics believe.

Koh has advocated use of the Army Field Manual's guidelines for treatment of detainees and has opposed "enhanced" interrogation techniques. Obama has ordered the CIA to follow the manual, which prohibits controversial detention and interrogation methods.

Koh has opposed the practice of "rendition" of terrorism suspects to foreign governments, and has condemned the Bush administration's view that it needed wide latitude to prosecute terrorists. Some legal analysts say that Koh's rejection of the war on terrorism raises questions about whether he believes strikes by U.S. Predator drone aircraft into Pakistan are legal.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 25, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
         

      that is the seed that sows revisionist history. The so called conservatives are going to pick up on this as a chorus, maybe not even cite the LA Times as a source, and run with it. The result is revised history.

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 5:45 pm ET)
           

        Those of us familar with the LAT are not surprised here.

        The news editors there are clearly Ayn Randian right wing operatives-- no lie. They are constantly re-writing articles to spin them rightward, and composing similar headlines as well. It's been this way for about four or five years.

        Management leaves the editorial page alone-- mostly (unless it's economic or union issues) but they have infiltrated the news division big time. Any good copy editor can see exactly where the original articles are being excised.

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        • Author by jonesjax2374 (March 26, 2009 2:15 am ET)
             

          Thanks for post carlileb - I still heart the Dorothy Chandler Pavillion - but I write to ask you and others for a good link EXPLAINING the sophmoric cult of Ayn Rand.  I can't believe she is being held up for anyone over 20.  Please post links.

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        • Author by shoes89 (March 26, 2009 10:25 am ET)
             

          carlileb5935: "The news editors there are clearly Ayn Randian right wing operatives-- no lie. They are constantly re-writing articles to spin them rightward."

          You cannot be serious. I read the LA Times every day. The LA Times, from front to back, is one of the most liberal newspapers in the country.

          You must be confused with some other newspaper or something. The LA Daily News, maybe?

          -

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      • Author by captfoster2 (March 25, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
           

        "that is the seed that sows revisionist history. "

        Thank goodness for the internet(s) then!!

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        • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 25, 2009 7:07 pm ET)
             

          the internet does the same in nanoseconds what takes the papers 24 hours.

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    • Author by jerrycDenver (March 25, 2009 3:41 pm ET)
         

      Does this story suggest that LA Times advocates Texas thugs' approach to governance ?  It's more than a merely esthetics issue - it's an issue that defines America in the eyes of millions worldwide, and in the eyes of many Americans, both the embarrassed and ashamed, and those who trumpet our safety in the homeland.  It appears once again that "simplemindedness" rules.

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 25, 2009 3:59 pm ET)
           

        it is amazing how they use scare tactics when stating Obama is a socialkist, when their own tactics mimic actual socialism.

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        • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 8:10 pm ET)
             

          I was thinking republican tactics are more like fascism with the creation of a state sponsored press, one party rule and forced dedication to the fatherland and the nazi party vs. the constitution. Oh, and the anti-minority thing really sounds like a demand to not let the master race blood become impure...

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      • Author by markcyst20051409 (March 25, 2009 5:19 pm ET)
           

        I live in Canada and I can honestly say that my crowd lost alot of respect for the USA with the first gulf war, the insane pro isreal stance, the manipulation of governance in central and south america and INVADING IRAQ for no reason. Canada has been in Afghanistan since the day the UN and the US said lets go get em. I am proud of my country's military contribution to eradicate as much as possible the terrorist influences there. We stand shoulder to shoulder with you but when torture is the modus operandi you stand alone.This is what some of your countrymen think of our contribution. Aired the day after we lost 4 more of our boys and 8 injured in Afganhistan

        http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=12528094&ch=&src=news

        Pretty cool eh?

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        • Author by worrierking (March 25, 2009 5:32 pm ET)
             

          I apologize for these American scumbags. Typical fox, bedwetters. I doubt that any of these weasels have done their time in  the military.

          It's always the ones with the biggest mouths who are the most cowardly. and these are prime examples of cowards.

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          • Author by markcyst20051409 (March 25, 2009 7:15 pm ET)
               

            thanks. Our world needs more of you guys and less of them.Just because alot of countries said no thanks to invading/ocupying Iraq we didn't forget 9-11

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    • Author by shoes89 (March 25, 2009 4:00 pm ET)
         

      Please, MM. Give us a break.

      The LA Times article is VERY critical of the Bush administration, and the Times has been all over the Bush administration in their editorial/op-ed pages with regards to the torture issue.

      So the Times didn't use the word "torture" in this specific article. Big whoop.

      A slow day for "conservative misinformation" at MM today?

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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (March 25, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
           

        true, by itself it means nothing. But you will notice other media outlets are on a full press mode to eliminate the Bush legacy from any reporting and place nlame on pres Obama for the finantial crisis, thinking his policies are responsible. the electorate is well aware of the real facts here, including the cost of the Iraq war, in dollars alone, was never part of any budget.

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        • Author by onionhead (March 25, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
             

          Exactly. Big whoop.  So what? It's just a word. 

          Except, that word is TORTURE.  And that word means a war crime has been committed.

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      • Author by markcyst20051409 (March 25, 2009 4:57 pm ET)
           

        I think the concern is the replacement of the volitile phrase "torture" with a less "volitile" phrase thereby giving the impression that the LAT is tyring to tone down the retoric.The LAT should not use partial quotes without noting the change in terminalogy. Damn librul press

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 5:47 pm ET)
           

        and the Times has been all over the Bush administration in their editorial/op-ed pages with regards to the torture issue.

        Not the news pages. The right wing slant to so many articles there is really ghastly.

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        • Author by shoes89 (March 26, 2009 10:26 am ET)
             

          Again ... (See my comment above.) You must be confusded and thinking of another newspaper.

          The liberal, pro-Democratic slant of the LA Times news section has been very well documented.

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          • Author by worrierking (March 26, 2009 11:05 am ET)
               

            You've convinced me Shoes.

            You shot down any chance of rebuttle by anyone with your skillful use of italics.

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      • Author by jwcoop715110 (March 25, 2009 7:51 pm ET)
           

        The word "torture" is kind of central to the story line and unfortunately, it's never a slow day for clueless con disinformation.

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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 26, 2009 9:24 am ET)
           

        I'm pretty sure we can't use the word "torture" anymore.  Along with "enemy combatant" and "war on terror".  

        O'Gump drops use of Enemy Combatants

        O'Gump drops use of war on terror

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    • Author by shaggles (March 25, 2009 5:05 pm ET)
         

      I don't think they disappeared Koh's words.  I think they were referring to the memo cautiously using the standard MSM euphemism and then quoting part of what he said about it.  It's cowardly not to use the word torture but I don't see it as erasing Koh's words.

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      • Author by truthseeker77 (March 25, 2009 7:35 pm ET)
           

        Koh called it torture. If you were a journalist, wouldn't you tell your readers that Koh called it torture? Or is that not important to you?

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    • Author by dangrady (March 25, 2009 5:43 pm ET)
         

      Save Democracy, Vote for a Democrat!!

      I repeated the above title for 4years until this past November in which we did as I prayed. I used the same title for everything related to Republican crimes against American Democracy.

      They stil own the message, the vast majority of our nations media, the free airways is availed them to re-invent themselves, to revise the past to cover-up their crimes. They behave as any Fascist would if they were to fail in completely taking over a Democracy, our Democracy.

      When we hear the same voices that lead us to the brink of Fascism, when making up the details to fit the idealogy we invite their foolishness back into our government again. We allowed Reagan a free pass in Iran-Contra, Nixon his Watergate, George H.W. his Panama, and Iran-Contra, now are we to allow them to go on as though they know all, and we all need them some how?

      If we don't make them pay with criminal punishment, can we atleast have our media expected to give equal time to the truth. Can we atleast identify these pundits for what they are, replay their foolish comments that denied our plight until they could blame somebody else right under our nose, and say nothing?

      Happy Thoughts;

      Dan Grady

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      • Author by markcyst20051409 (March 25, 2009 7:38 pm ET)
           

        Hey Dan. I have enjoyed many of your post and I agree with you 100%. If you let someone do something that you don't like for long enough and nothing is done about it, eventually it will be construed to be the norm. Kinda like going 60km in a 50km zone. No one gets pulled over so breaking the law becomes the normal speed.Sitting back watching these shenanigans go on I shocked that your jails are not full of these politco-criminals.Where has the rule of law gone?Has it gotten to the point where prosecution is based on political fear. What have the American public got to fear? Losing their international reputation?We already know.Financial instability? Done. High unemployment?Done. Looks to me like the perfect time to drop these emotional yet necessary bombs. Time to man up and say "We ani't screwin around" You break the law, your goin down.The alternative is a lacky press and a slow spiral down the drain of national and world esteem

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    • Author by PJBurke (March 26, 2009 12:18 am ET)
         

      Torture is a highly incendiary and highly damning term, and every responsible news outlet MUST refrain from using this particular term in any of its reporting until -- and unless -- such time as it has been confirmed and reported by the International Committee of the Red Cross.

      Which happened in 2007.  And then released (unofficially) LAST WEEK... published in the New York Times Review of Books, in an article by the incomparable Mark Danner.

      As it has now been confirmed by THE designated international authority to make such determinations, the responsibility shifts to NEVER obfuscating by euphemism.

      Keep it up L.A. Times... you're just adding evidence to the "torture apologist" charge.

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