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March 25, 2009 9:10 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Conservative media figures uncritically highlighted a SkyNews.com report that a "teleprompt blunder has led to Barack Obama thanking himself in a speech at the White House in a St Patrick's Day celebration." In fact, a pool report of the event released at the time indicates Obama was, in the words of the Telegraph's Toby Harnden, making "a good-natured and well-received joke" at the expense of Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen, who earlier in the event had mistakenly read from the teleprompter displaying Obama's speech.

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Several conservative media figures -- including Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh, and Sean Hannity -- have uncritically highlighted a March 18 SkyNews.com report that a "teleprompt blunder has led to Barack Obama thanking himself in a speech at the White House in a St Patrick's Day celebration." But as Toby Harnden, U.S. editor for the U.K.'s Telegraph, has noted, the pool report of Obama's March 17 event with Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen indicates that in saying, "First, I'd like to say thank you to President Obama," Obama was, in Harnden's words, making "a good-natured and well-received joke" at the expense of Cowen, who earlier in the event had mistakenly read from the teleprompter displaying Obama's speech. Indeed, as early as March 18, Fox News anchor Bret Baier reported that Obama had "jokingly" made the comments in question.

SkyNews.com reported:

A teleprompt blunder has led to Barack Obama thanking himself in a speech at the White House in a St Patrick's Day celebration.

Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was just a few paragraphs into an address in Washington when he realised it all sounded a bit too familiar.

It was. He was repeating the speech President Barack Obama had just read from the same teleprompter.

Mr Cowen stopped, turned to the president and said: "That's your speech."

A laughing Mr Obama returned to the podium to take over but it seems the script had finally been switched and the US president ended up thanking himself for inviting everyone to the party.

Mr Obama is an accomplished orator but is becoming known in America as the "teleprompt president" over his reliance on the machine when he gives a speech.

By 8:07:27 a.m. ET on March 18, Drudge linked to the SkyNews.com article on his website's front page:

By 9:54:20 a.m. ET, Drudge revised the headline to "Teleprompter Blunder at White House":

That afternoon on his nationally syndicated radio show, Limbaugh purported to explain how "the teleprompter totally embarrassed the president of the United States" during the St. Patrick's Day event, stating, "The British newspapers skewer Obama on this incident." Limbaugh claimed:

So here comes the Irish guy, he goes up to give a speech after Obama, and the teleprompter played a little game on everybody, doesn't switch the speeches.

So, the Irish guy gives the same speech for 20 seconds Obama gave, then suddenly realizes, "Wait a minute, I just heard this." So he turns to Obama and says, "That's your speech." Obama's ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Comes back to the podium. While Obama's on the way to the podium, the teleprompter very craftily, very shiftily put in the right text for the Irish guy, and Obama starts reading that. And he continues to read it until he thanks himself. Because the British -- the Irish guy's message in the prompter was "I wanna thank President Obama." So Obama thanked himself. At some point, do you not realize that -- just stop before you get to the point where you thank yourself. Of course, the British papers talk about, "What is this guy's dependency on the teleprompter here?"

Limbaugh went on to list a series of "questions for the teleprompter since it engaged in behavior last night that embarrassed both the Irish prime minister and the president of the United States."

Likewise, that night, Hannity stated on his Fox News program, "[L]ast night at the White House's St. Patrick Day's celebration, the president's reliance on his beloved teleprompter backfired when he tried to read, well, a regular old thank you off the teleprompter, which was still, by the way, displaying the previous speaker's remarks. Nonetheless, the president, he charged forward telling the group, quote, 'First, I'd like to thank -- to say thank you to President Obama.' " Hannity continued, "Now that's priceless. Now, given the president's arrogance, I'm not sure that feeling was totally misplaced, but come on, Mr. President, don't you think it might be time to give that teleprompter even a little rest? It's getting tired."

But the pool report of the event does not support the reports of SkyNews.com and the conservative media. In his March 17 pool report, National Journal's William Englund wrote:

Then it was Cowen's turn, and he was in for a surprise. "We begin by welcoming today a strong friend of the United States," he said--then stopped in surprise as he realized he was reading President Obama's speech off the teleprompter. "Why don't these things work for me?" he asked, as the crowd roared. "Thank you for having us. Who said these things were idiot-proof?" Then he got his bearings and gave the same talk that he delivered in the East Room.

When he ended, at 8:12, Obama stepped to the microphone and said, "First, I'd like to say thank you to President Obama...(much laughter). Happy Saint Patrick's Day, everybody." Then we were escorted out.

In a March 24 blog post, Harnden quoted Englund's pool report and wrote: "That was pretty clear: there was a teleprompter mix up and the fall guy was Cowen. Obama stepped in after Cowen's five-minute speech to make a good-natured and well-received joke at the Irish premier's expense." Harnden further reported that he had obtained an audio recording of the event that confirms Englund's poll report and "removes all doubt" Obama was joking:

I've exchanged emails with Englund and he confirmed this was the case and kindly supplied me with an audio file of the event that removes all doubt.

In the recording, Cowen begins speaking by ad libbing, saying: "Good evening everybody and welcome to St Patrick's Day at the White House. And I think it's particularly fitting that we gather tonight at the house that was, after all, designed and built by an Irish architect."

Then he goes into Obama's speech, and realises his boob 18 words into it: "We have had a wonderful day that began by meeting with a strong friend of the United States...that's your speech."

After Cowen got his act together - amid uproarious laughter - and completed his speech, Obama returned to the microphone for his little joke, as per the pool report.

Indeed, Baier and CNN correspondent Jeanne Moos also reported Obama was joking. On the March 18 edition of Special Report -- hours before Hannity stated that the St. Patrick's Day event indicated that Obama's "reliance on his beloved teleprompter backfired" -- Baier reported:

There were no cameras allowed at last night's gathering, but a print reporter says Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was a few paragraphs into his remarks when he realized suddenly he was repeating the exact same speech President Obama had just delivered. Cowen stopped and turned to the president, saying, "That's your speech." Mr. Obama laughed and returned to the podium to offer what might have been Cowen's remarks, in doing so, President Obama jokingly thanked President Obama for inviting everyone over.

Similarly, on the March 23 edition of The Situation Room, Moos reported that at the event: "The wrong speech got inserted in the prompter. The Irish prime minister started reading President Obama's speech. He quickly realizes, amid much laughter, that something is amiss. Then, when President Obama comes back to the podium, he jokingly says, as if he's reading the wrong speech: 'First, I'd like to say thank you to President Obama.' "

From the March 18 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: So, anyway, the big, big bashes -- big parties in the middle of bonuses and a recession and an economic downturn -- big parties at the White House last night. And the teleprompter totally embarrassed the president of the United States. I've read accounts of this in the U.S. drive-by media, and they pretty much present Obama as a guy who saved the day with his cool, his aplomb, his calm demeanor. The British newspapers skewer Obama on this incident.

Here is what happened. Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was just a few paragraphs into his speech in Washington when he realized that it all sounded a bit too familiar. And it was. He was repeating the speech that the teleprompter had told Obama to say mere moments ago. The teleprompter forgot to change speeches from Obama's to Cowen's. So Cowen stopped, he turned to the president and said, "That's your speech." I'm surprised it took him 20 seconds to figure out it wasn't his. So Obama started laughing. And Obama went back to the podium to take over, but when Obama got there -- this is hilarious. When Obama got there, the teleprompter had been switched back to the Cowen speech. The teleprompter switched back to the Cowen speech while Obama was laughing and heading to the podium.

So, when Obama then reached the podium to try to coolly, calmly save the day, he ended up thanking himself for throwing a huge party. Because he ended up reading the speech the teleprompter wrote for the Irish prime minister. The script had been switched, and Obama ended up thanking himself for inviting everybody to the party. Now, stop and think of this. It's a party. It's a party. You have to assume that the adult beverages are flowing. I don't know about the president, and don't misunderstand, I'm not suggesting anything here, but it's a party -- it's a St. Patrick's Day, Shamrock Day party, you gotta assume this. So here come the Irish guy, who goes up to make a speech after Obama, and the teleprompter playing a little game on everybody, doesn't switch the speeches.

So, the Irish guy gives the same speech for 20 seconds Obama gave, then suddenly realizes, "Wait a minute, I just heard this." So he turns to Obama and says, "That's your speech." Obama's ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Comes back to the podium. While Obama's on the way to the podium, the teleprompter very craftily, very shiftily put in the right text for the Irish guy, and Obama starts reading that. And he continues to read it until he thanks himself. Because the British -- the Irish guy's message in the prompter was "I wanna thank President Obama." So Obama thanked himself. At some point, do you not realize that -- just stop before you get to the point where you thank yourself. Of course, the British papers talk about, "What is this guy's dependency on the teleprompter here?" The U.S. media is talking about his quick-wittedness. And his -- to not use a teleprompter. That's another thing -- a party. It's a party, folks, a freaking party, and there's a teleprompter at a party. I don't use a teleprompter, period.

Fine, folks, I'll tell you. We -- I have some questions for the teleprompter. You know, this is -- this is -- this is getting out of hand. Wait a minute, our microphones just arrived at the Rose Garden. Can we jip -- who's there? Oh, Geithner's standing there, still looking -- nah, they're taking questions. Kathleen is rolling on this. If there's anything interesting from this, we'll have the audio sound bites coming up.

I have -- I have some questions for the teleprompter since it engaged in behavior last night that embarrassed both the Irish prime minister and the president of the United States. I mean, when a teleprompter -- he has somebody who's as great an orator as the president to thank himself for throwing a party, you've got to love this prompter.

So, teleprompter, do you have a name? Teleprompter, in your opinion, how is President Obama doing so far? Did he convey the level of anger you hoped for regarding what you told him to say about AIG? Teleprompter, is the president ever argumentative with you, or is he compliant with your instructions? Teleprompter, have you ever thought about helping Secretary Geithner or do you work for just one person?

Teleprompter, how are you and the first lady getting along? Are you dating anybody, teleprompter? Mac or PC?

There's a rumor, teleprompter, that you send out a small shock to the president when he mispronounces words or mangled phrases you tell him to say or that you can even make him cough. Is that true?

Teleprompter, in private, is Joe Biden as buffoonish as he is in public? Tell us, we want to know. How does it feel, teleprompter, to be the first teleprompter for an American president? You're the first teleprompter -- capital F -- first teleprompter.

Teleprompter, as a consumer of electricity, how do you feel about cap and trade? Are you -- do you feel threatened and endangered?

Teleprompter, do you listen to talk radio? Would you consider yourself a dittohead?

When did you first meet Barack Obama, teleprompter? And are you paid with taxpayer money, and if so, did you have to fill out Obama's questionnaire before you were hired as first teleprompter?

And teleprompter, what are your plans post-presidency? Will you retire to Silicon Valley or will you tell Obama what to say when he's giving speeches at a million dollars per year after his presidency? And finally, teleprompter, are you nervous about President Obama appearing with "The Chin" on the Tonight show without you?

From the March 18 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

HANNITY: And finally tonight, much has been made of the president's over-reliance on his teleprompter. Now, there were those embarrassing moments on the campaign trail when it malfunctioned, and surprise, well, he wasn't the great speaker that everybody said he was. And then there was Politico.com's report just a couple of weeks ago about how he actually travels with his teleprompter and uses it to deliver even the shortest of speeches.

Well, last night at the White House's St. Patrick Day's celebration, the president's reliance on his beloved teleprompter backfired when he tried to read, well, a regular old thank you off the teleprompter, which was still, by the way, displaying the previous speaker's remarks.

Nonetheless, the president, he charged forward telling the group, quote, "First, I'd like to thank -- to say thank you to President Obama."

Now that's priceless. Now, given the president's arrogance, I'm not sure that feeling was totally misplaced, but come on, Mr. President, don't you think it might be time to give that teleprompter even a little rest? It's getting tired.

And that is the news tonight from Hannity's America. Let not your heart be troubled, the "Great American Panel" is straight ahead.

From the March 18 edition of Fox News' Special Report with Bret Baier:

BAIER: And finally, it seems like the luck of the Irish wasn't quite with the White House's teleprompter operator at Tuesday evening's St. Patrick's Day celebration. As we have reported, President Obama uses the teleprompter on most speeches and even at town hall events.

There were no cameras allowed at last night's gathering, but a print reporter says Irish Prime Minister Brian Cowen was a few paragraphs into his remarks when he realized suddenly he was repeating the exact same speech President Obama had just delivered. Cowen stopped and turned to the president, saying, "That's your speech." Mr. Obama laughed and returned to the podium to offer what might have been Cowen's remarks. In doing so, President Obama jokingly thanked President Obama for inviting everyone over.

The attorney general says it is possible that some terror suspects now at Guantanamo Bay could be released onto the streets of American cities. National correspondent Catherine Herridge has this story -- hi, Catherine.

From the March 23 edition of CNN's The Situation Room:

WOLF BLITZER (anchor): When the president of the United States stumbles during a speech, often the teleprompter gets the blame. Well, now the teleprompter is clearing the air. CNN's Jeanne Moos has a "Moost Unusual" look at a "Moost Unusual" blog.

[begin video clip]

MOOS: I'm his teleprompter.

OBAMA: The American people are watching.

MOOS: But hopefully not watching me, with my scrolling words reflected onto slim glass panels that let the speaker seem brilliant. I've tried to stay invisible.

OBAMA: Don't mind the [unintelligible].

MOOS: But now I'm spilling my guts on my very own blog, Barack Obama's teleprompter's blog.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barack and I don't go anywhere without each other. We even complete each other's sentences. Well, more mine than his, but let's not split hairs.

MOOS: These are exact quotes from my new blog. Oh, sure, some mock our relationship.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barack Obama cannot even go to breakfast without using a teleprompter.

MOOS: They question whether the boss can spell "potato" without a prompter. They even suggest I quit.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I shall not resign. Hell, I haven't even been officially confirmed.

MOOS: The human behind my blog has not come forward. But he seems to have it in for my boss. The blog started after a mix-up with the Irish prime minister's speech at the White House. Too bad it wasn't on camera.

The wrong speech got inserted in the prompter. The Irish prime minister started reading President Obama's speech. He quickly realizes, amid much laughter, that something's amiss. Then, when President Obama comes back to the podium, he jokingly says, as if he's reading the wrong speech: "First, I'd like to say thank you to President Obama."

LIMBAUGH: He ended up thanking himself.

MOOS: That's Rush Limbaugh rushing in.

LIMBAUGH: This is hilarious.

MOOS: They called it a gaffe, a blunder. But the pool reporter who was there said it was a joke.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So teleprompter, do you have a name?

MOOS: I call myself TOTUS -- teleprompter of the United States.

When the boss messes up -- for instance, when he made that remark about the Special Olympics the other day, I have to blog to clear my name.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK. I see the bus coming right at me. So let's be clear, this was his ad-lib.

MOOS: But sometimes he blames me.

OBAMA: Orion Energy Systems. I expect this is O'Ryan as opposed to Orion. But the way it was written up --

MOOS: Critics mock the boss with pictures of him dancing with me, taking me to the beach, even showing me telling him what to say to the wife.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now whisper "I love you" with quiet, reassuring strength.

MOOS: I'm lonely when you're not there, boss, to read my mind.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I feel so dirty. Where's the Windex?

MOOS: Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

[end video clip]

BLITZER: Jeanne Moos. There's my teleprompter right there. You think it's easy reading a teleprompter? Not always that easy. Watch me.

President Obama holding a prime-time news conference tomorrow night. Our coverage here on CNN will begin at 7:45 p.m. Eastern.

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    • Author by magnolialover (March 25, 2009 9:14 pm ET)
         

      Here we go. Something else for the conservatives to complain and whine about, and this one isn't even true either. This teleprompter thing is the dumbest critique, or criticism ever I'd have to believe.

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      • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 9:18 pm ET)
           

        Are they desperate? And yet we'll get a slew of idiots posting soon enough about how glad they are the press is "reporting" the presidents "blunders". Manufactured rage, what page of the right wing bible covers that? Anyone?

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        • Author by pattydon41.sanders3913 (March 25, 2009 9:46 pm ET)
             

          They dont have to report it, To any sane person it is obviouse for months,  The surprising thing is some of the press is not covering and hiding his stupidity.

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        • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (March 26, 2009 10:08 am ET)
             

          Manufactured rage, what page of the right wing bible covers that? Anyone?

          Pages 1 through 1,737. The rest covers how to lie blatently.

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      • Author by pattydon41.sanders3913 (March 25, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
           

        We are not complaining or whining, merly pointing out how stupid and ungualified he is for such a high job. He is mentaly ungualified and lrgaly acording to the constitution, ungualified, make that illegiable.

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:02 am ET)
             

          and where is your proff of such eh?

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        • Author by dbeden4153 (March 26, 2009 12:37 pm ET)
             

          Wow, can we let this post just stand by itself as a prime example of the kind of people we're dealing with here?

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:38 pm ET)
           

        These people are really really stupid. One of the main signs of dumbness is either not getting the joke or missing the point. It's not a matter of falseness I think-- they're idiots.

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      • Author by mr. l (March 25, 2009 11:14 pm ET)
           

        Also, I think Skynews' name needs a change.  Since it embodies all types of media, and may be news, entertainment, or just gossip- thus, more than just news, I propose a name change.

        Something that brings it all together... 'Skymedia', no..., 'Skyinyoureye', no- too wordy..., 'How about 'Skynetwork'!  Or, to tidy it up. 'Skynet'!  There, a nice name for an all-encompassing computer system that monitors all data in the world!  Nothing could go wrong with that, right?

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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:01 am ET)
           

        remember who owns skynews? Rupert

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    • Author by mk3872 (March 25, 2009 9:26 pm ET)
         

      It's what MMFA here calls the "Clinton Rules". They play laissez-faire with Repubs because they are affraid of Bush W/Cheney and being called butt-boys by Boss Limbaugh.

      Then, BOOM, a Dem comes into office and they copy & paste unsubstantiated crap from Drudge, Malkin and Limbaugh. They ask ridiculous questions and bang the president on any little thing.

      The MSM is like the little wimp from school who the bully picked on and then once the bully graduates, they pick on the younger boys.

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:45 pm ET)
           

        Actually, I think what happens is that Obama makes a joke and it goes right over their heads.

        Like on 60 Minutes, where he was laughing at the absurdity of the situation, and Croft tried to make it look like he was laughing at the American people or something.

        That press conference last night proved one thing-- these reporters-- almost all of them-- are dumb dumb dumb. They couldn't even pick a good fight. What a nightmare.

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    • Author by Caseysprings (March 25, 2009 9:33 pm ET)
         

      I love how Matt Drudge is trying to make a comeback. I guess now that his favorite President Bush is gone he can go back to smearing the White House like he did when Clinton was in office.

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    • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 9:38 pm ET)
         
      I thought President Obama was the most intelligent, articulate president we've had in decades, maybe ever. Why shouldn't the American people expect him to articulate without the use of a teleprompter, which are prescribed notes? If President Obama is in high level talks with world allies or adversaries, will he be using a teleprompter to get through the meetings? I think it is a legitimate concern that he has yet to get through a speech lasting more than 6 minutes without this "crutch".
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      • Author by pattydon41.sanders3913 (March 25, 2009 9:48 pm ET)
           

        Clock tower, I second your statment.

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:06 am ET)
             

          but what about bush 43's LARGE number of verbal and grammatical butchery committed by him.

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      • Author by mk3872 (March 25, 2009 9:49 pm ET)
           

        Yeah, clock tower, I do not think he uses a teleprompter during meetings. That is an incredibly odd thing to say. So, your belief, I take it, is that he needs to memorize his speeches, is that it? How many times did Bush or Reagan memorize their speeches, do you suppose?

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        • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 9:54 pm ET)
             

          First of all, we're not talking about anyone but President Obama. Second of all, we're not talking about memorizing a speech because that can be done sans a teleprompter. He has used a teleprompter in every speech he has made to the public, to date. Apparantly he is unable to memorize his speeches, otherwise, prompting would not be necessary.

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          • Author by zamfir273114 (March 25, 2009 10:26 pm ET)
               

            So if the United States is attacked at 2AM in the morning and the President is expected to calm the country down and assure us that everything will be ok, he needs his staff to write out his speech first, right?  Wow.  He isn't JFK or Roosevelt is he.

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            • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
                 

              God forbid that happens but if Obama has to address the nation at 2 a.m., without a teleprompter, he'll make G.W's 6 minute pause at an elementary school on 9/11 look like a Stephen Hawkings paper written to Oxford graduates! Can you imagine," uh, American peeples, uh,uh, the Chinese or the Iranians,uh,uh,I think, uh, just launched,uh,uh, an attack ,uh, on,uh, Indiana,uh,or was it,uh,ah heck, go back to sleep and I'll fix it in the morning".

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              • Author by neon desert (March 25, 2009 11:16 pm ET)
                   

                Forgive my saying so, but your response makes you appear to be one contemptible and naive individual who lives in a world of his own imagination born of petty partisan politics.

                But hey, maybe that plays just fine in your crowd.

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                • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
                     

                  Well, you sure told me. Ya know, this entire website is entirely about partisan politics. Haven't ya noticed? It's about a group of writer's, who's sole purpose is to ferret out news stories that are not flattering to Obama. Then, hype the story and rely on a cacophone of diligent liberals to argue their point on these threads. You act shocked that someone on this website is partisan. That's really Pollyanaish.

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                  • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 11:51 pm ET)
                       

                    I thought it was about exposing conservatives who lie on air or in print. Nothing partisan about that, unless you are unhappy that they chose to only do conservatives. Tell me again about the bipartisan sites conservatives run doing the same thing?

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                    • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 26, 2009 12:03 am ET)
                         

                      It does, indeed, bother me that it is a one-sided affair. Tell me truthfully, snoopy, cuz I believe you are an honost person. If there was a website. diametrically opposed, to mmfa, wouldn't that bother you?

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                      • Author by snoopy (March 26, 2009 12:12 am ET)
                           

                        As long as they follow the same mold and can post uncut video or audio to back up the claim they make, then no, I wouldn't be bothered that they did that. I'd be more bothered that the so called liberals of the press chose to follow the same mold. In the end I want an honest press, and if it takes blog sites like MMFA or a conservative counterpart to drive that honesty then so be it. It just sucks that we have to let the internet do the job that the press, or even the government, is afraid to do, which is demand that the press lives up to free and impartial reporting.

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                        • Author by Brabantio (March 26, 2009 12:22 am ET)
                             

                          Exactly.  My problem with the MRC isn't that they exist, it's that they claim to show "bias" instead of the more verifiable and objective task of exposing misinformation.  I would never dream of saying that they're not credible simply because of their politics, but because they object to unfavorable poll results being cited even when they're relevant and from an undisputed source, or put up Letterman's top-10 lists as evidence of "bias".

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                      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:09 am ET)
                           

                        i can name a few of them that are such oppoisiton. they are called Townhall.com, thepowerline.com, worldnetdaily.com, and humanevents.com.

                        hmm seems to me the ratio is about what 4 to 1.

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                      • Author by dbeden4153 (March 26, 2009 12:39 pm ET)
                           

                        It's called World Net Daily.  Deal with it.

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                        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 1:29 pm ET)
                             

                          i beat ya by naming the rest of them. i bet there is more but those are what cam off the top of my head.

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                        • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
                             

                          oooo i just thought of another one! National Review!

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              • Author by magnolialover (March 26, 2009 8:13 am ET)
                   

                Do you guys actually think that when the President addresses the nation, ANY President, that they don't have a prompter, or notes in front of them when they're doing it? You're really ignorant about how things work if that is the case. Nobody goes off the cuff, especially when something seriously bad happens. Speech writers are part of the staff of the White House, if it's early in the morning, and something happens, guess what? They get woken up, and have to get to work ASAP. 

                You apparently don't understand how things work.

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                • Author by foghornleghorn (March 26, 2009 2:15 pm ET)
                     

                  You apparently don't understand how things work.

                  He also apparently has no anger toward a sitting president, having learned that the country was under attack, chose to sit in that classroom. 

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          • Author by steeve (March 25, 2009 10:34 pm ET)
               

            No, you don't get to criticize the president for doing what everybody in a similar position does.  Presumably Obama would rather free up time for policy discussion rather than win an academic decathalon.

            If it's good enough for Bush, Fox News hosts, and Jay Leno, it's absolutely good enough for you.  Your petty dumbness is hanging out all over the place and you should be beet red with embarrassment.

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            • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:48 pm ET)
                 

              Why would,or should, anyone be embarrassed for criticizing our president? If President Obama and his administration consider themselves immune from critique, then I guess maybe his administration should enact some contemporary sedition statutes to deal with those who criticize the Obama administration. That's pretty thin-skinned! It's you who should be radish red with embarrassment!

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              • Author by steeve (March 25, 2009 11:09 pm ET)
                   

                I can't say "petty dumbness" any louder.  It is not that you're criticizing Obama, it's that you're obsessing over petty dumbness while criticizing.  You are being petty and dumb.  This is a petty and dumb issue.  It is petty and dumb to spend any time on it.

                What is more valuable is to be able to shine a light on petty dumbness to help others realize when they are being petty and dumb, so that they can stop being petty and dumb and start discussing real issues.

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                • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:27 pm ET)
                     

                  Well then maybe nobody should criticize anything he does or says. Maybe we should buy into the idea Obama is above reproach entirely. This whole thread defending Obama's use of the teleprompter reminds me of "The Emperor's New Suit". Many, if not all, of his defenders will have to realize he is "naked".

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                  • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 11:36 pm ET)
                       

                    Wasn't that the republican demand under 8 years of bush? Obama makes bush look like that guy who was reading "my pet goat" (the book was upside down, of course!) on 9-11 and after spending 11 long, uncomfortable minutes (during daytiime, not after bedtime) looking like a deer in the headlights, got ushered out by the secret service to a plane where he was flown to an underground bunker to suck his thumb for 48 hours while Gulliani of all people had to look like a leader for our country. Let me know when you have a video of Obama looking like that, OK?

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                  • Author by steeve (March 26, 2009 12:42 am ET)
                       

                    "maybe nobody should criticize anything he does or says"

                    I can't believe it.  You actually failed to see the words "petty" and "dumb" in my above post.  I'm persistent, so I'll give this one more go, and forgive the caps.

                    It is OKAY to criticize the president for things that are NOT PETTY.  It is OKAY to criticize the president for things that are NOT DUMB.  It is NOT OKAY to criticize the president for things that ARE PETTY.  It is NOT OKAY to criticize the president for things that ARE DUMB.

                    To reiterate -- out of all the things to criticize a president over, SOME OF THEM ARE PETTY and SOME OF THEM ARE NOT.  SOME OF THEM ARE DUMB and SOME OF THEM ARE NOT.

                    One more time -- you are NOT FORBIDDEN from criticizing Obama.  I am NOT OUTLAWING ALL CRITICISM.

                    In case you missed it, on this thread you have chosen to criticize the president for something that is PETTY AND DUMB.  That is not a good thing to do.

                    Maybe it still isn't clear.  CRITICISM is NOT the problem.  PETTINESS IS the problem.  DUMBNESS IS the problem.

                    Your criticism is PETTY because it is about a MINOR ISSUE.  Your criticism is DUMB because teleprompter use is widespread and not controversial.

                    I am finding fault with THIS SPECIFIC CRITICISM.  I am not finding fault with the ACT OF CRITICIZING.

                    Come to think of it, weren't you the person who insisted that Clinton's dow never broke 10000, because thirty seconds of googling was too much for you?  Maybe not; maybe that was someone else.

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              • Author by pete592 (March 25, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
                   

                "Why would,or should, anyone be embarrassed for criticizing our president?"

                The act of criticizing a president is not in itself embarrassing.  The embarassment comes from what you choose to criticize the president for.

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                • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:39 pm ET)
                     

                  And criticizing a man, who was touted to be articulate, worldly and concise yet can't give a simple speech with out constant prompting, I believe to be worthy of criticism and apparantly so do many others who have noted he is the only contemporary president to rely so heavily on such a crutch.

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                  • Author by pete592 (March 26, 2009 12:07 am ET)
                       

                    Gasp.  He prepares his speeches ahead of time and reads them from a sheet of glass instead of looking down at the lectern.  This is clear evidence that we've elected a man who's inarticulate and handicapped.  This is indeed a national emergency.  Time for Congress to demand a psychiatric evaluation and start the impeachment proceedings.

                    </sarc>

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                    • Author by Brabantio (March 26, 2009 12:34 am ET)
                         

                      That really sums it up.  And the absurdity of the argument leads me to believe that if he didn't use a teleprompter, not only would any minor error be pounced on as a political blunder (he should be using a teleprompter to avoid these mistakes!), but he would be accused of being some sort of elitist show-off.

                      Right-wingers should remember all the times they talked about "Bush Derangement Syndrome" before they criticize Obama for doing something that everyone else has done as well.

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                      • Author by pete592 (March 26, 2009 12:41 am ET)
                           

                        I really don't know of any other way to respond to such ridiculousness than with more ridiculousness.

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                  • Author by dbeden4153 (March 26, 2009 12:41 pm ET)
                       

                    Sarah Palin.  Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin, Sarah Palin. 

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                    • Author by foghornleghorn (March 26, 2009 2:17 pm ET)
                         

                      You see, when all you have to do is repeat ad nauseum the neo-con talking points, there really is no need for a teleprompter.

                      I'd like to ask Sarah if she's pardoned any turkeys lately.

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                  • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
                       

                    yeah and how good are you at memorizing a 20 min speech word for word.

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            • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:10 am ET)
                 

              even though obama could beat bush, cheney, rice, the entire house republican membership and senate in such a contest.

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          • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
               

            Apparantly he is unable to memorize his speeches, otherwise, prompting would not be necessary.

            He uses the teleprompter to stay succinct and to the point. It's about economy of expression. Then, he gets the points out of the way, and elaborates extemporaneously.

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            • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:41 pm ET)
                 

              Yeah, uh huh.

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              • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:46 pm ET)
                   

                Of course he does. That's the way he operates-- extremely rationally and methodically. Why else? He's inarticulate?

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                • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:50 pm ET)
                     

                  We may never know if he is inarticulate as long as he has his prompter to do the talking for him.

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                  • Author by princeofwheels (March 26, 2009 1:31 am ET)
                       

                    So you didn't watch the rest of the press conference? He sounded quite rational to me when answering questions.  When did teleprompters start talking? I get it now, listen closelyClockie. That's your TV you are talking about.

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            • Author by mr. l (March 25, 2009 11:08 pm ET)
                 

              That's exactly my take on the prompters.  In my public speaking course we all had note cards to look at occasionally to stay on point while speaking extemporaneously.  

              Good speakers can, and will, deviate from a prepared response given the context of the audience, questions, mood, time constraints, etc.  

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          • Author by tman418 (March 25, 2009 11:33 pm ET)
               

            "First of all, we're not talking about anyone but President Obama"

            First of all, we're not talking about why he uses a teleprompter. We are pointing out that many conservatives are flat out wrong when they say the president made a blunder at this news conference or whatever it was.

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        • Author by progressiveright (March 25, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
             

          Regan was an actor and had trouble remembering a speach. I think he had his Alsyhimers in office and his Dr. should have reported this to congress but did not.

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      • Author by Craig (March 25, 2009 10:30 pm ET)
           

        Funny, I've heard right wing complaints about Obama getting overexposed with all his extemporaneous speaking to the American people -- ESPN, 60 Minutes, a press conference.

        But you keep voicing your concerns. It doesn't make you look petty or out of touch with reality at all.

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        • Author by WorldlyMrR (March 25, 2009 10:44 pm ET)
             

          You make our point so well.  On ESPN, on 60 minutes and at other "events" we get just clips of, when BHO talks without the aid of a teleprompter it is night and day difference to reciting a staff written piece.  He is not concise, rambles sometimes aimlessly, loses concentration and instead of pausing rambles on with blog site commentary.  I give him credit for fully understanding his weakness and for very important settings insisting on the teleprompter aids.

          Watch his news conference again and use the DVR to listen to the answer a few times back to back and you will see what i mean.  He is head and shoulders above George, but I am surprised at his inability to speak eloquently when speaking extemporaneously.

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          • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:48 pm ET)
               

            Get a new TV. There's something wrong with it. The guy is extremely lucid. Extremely.

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            • Author by WorldlyMrR (March 25, 2009 11:31 pm ET)
                 

               I never said anything about BHO not being lucid - I am in words saying he is not a great orator by any definition of the term, unless he has his crutch of a teleprompter or two.

              I give his crew credit though.  After weeks of criticism about BHO always looking right or left and not into the camera ( a necessary deal to put the teleprompters outside the camera view) they did come up with the large flat screen down in front of the podium so BHO can now look the people in the eye.

              If I have an example of a politician that was a great speaker pull up any video of Tony Blair.  The man was very good at extemporaneous speaking.  BHO would never last very long in Parliament for weekly question time.

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              • Author by magnolialover (March 26, 2009 8:17 am ET)
                   

                You guys are extremely stupid. Every great orator throughout history has used notes, and or a teleprompter. Your "Great Communicator" Ronny Reagan used one, as well as, well f'in everybody else.

                You guys are again, really stupid to even be arguing this point. I guess the great right wing talking points about bringing down Obama is going to be his use of notes to give speeches. How stupid.

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              • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (March 26, 2009 10:17 am ET)
                   

                I am in words saying he is not a great orator by any definition of the term, unless he has his crutch of a teleprompter or two.

                And your hero GWBush was a stupid, illiterate boob even when attempting to read verbatim from a teleprompter, which was displaying his second language, English. His first language is Idiot.

                I am not talking about anyone other than George W Bush, to use your tactic of chahnging the subject at random.

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          • Author by Craig (March 25, 2009 10:56 pm ET)
               

            Your opinion of those events are quite different from mine and, I'm sure, almost all non-dittoheads. Obama is engaging. He speaks with clarity and wit.

            But like I said, please keep it up.

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      • Author by fawltylogic (March 25, 2009 11:48 pm ET)
           

        Did you happen to watch the press conference last night, beyond the opening statements? If so, you should have seen that you're making a fool of yourself.

        I concede that I have often been really annoyed with Obama before because of all his "umming and uhhing", but he must have practiced, because the last month at unscripted press conferences he has been a lot better.

        The man makes intelligent, succinct points, and he does it with well-thought out arguments. This whole idiocy about his use of teleprompters during prepared speeches is frankly just dumb.

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      • Author by skiploader1111 (March 26, 2009 12:53 am ET)
           

        Is it desparation that Republicans are making this non issue into a scandal?

        Or is it just sour grapes because they lost so badly in November?

        Whenever I turn on right wingnut radio, I usually turn it down a little before tuning in.  I never know if there is a screaming angry rant in progress.  Why is the right so angry and shrill?

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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:04 am ET)
           

        well he may not be the "most" but compared to lets say the previous....oh lets say the last 5......he is probably right up there with reagan if not above him.

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    • Author by LisaLV711 (March 25, 2009 10:07 pm ET)
         

      But doesn't Insannity-Hannity and Bilo-the Clown both use teleprompters?

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      • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:21 pm ET)
           

        Neither of them are President, so, who cares if they use teleprompters?

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        • Author by progressiveright (March 25, 2009 10:35 pm ET)
             

          There is a reason that the President needs a telepromter regaurdless of who he is. That is that in most of there speaches they get interupted by applause so many times and for long enough it is easy to forget where you are in the speach and either miss part of it or repeat part of it. Every President has used notes weather written or on a teleprompter.Watch Obamas eys and the move arround the room far more than if he was reading his speach.

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          • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:54 pm ET)
               

            Well, it might be easy to forget if your ability to concentrate is hampered by drug use while in your teens or that rose garden "cigarette" right before a news conference.

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            • Author by Craig (March 25, 2009 10:59 pm ET)
                 

              Alright, now you're rollin'!

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              • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:16 pm ET)
                   

                I'm zig-zagging alright! and you, your tops!

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                • Author by Craig (March 25, 2009 11:32 pm ET)
                     

                  You need to cut down. Some people just can't handle the stuff. It could be the reason for your paranoia and delusions.

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                  • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:45 pm ET)
                       

                    I don't use it. But I am worried about a President who did/does. Michelle just started a "garden", don't ya know. Soon, it will be as high as an elephant's eye. The secret service will have a new task. Guard the Garden. Concertina razor wire, two blackhawks and a mutt named Hydro.

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                    • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 11:55 pm ET)
                         

                      All you need to do now is suggest the garden is full of watermellon. You've pulled out the plug on this thread, why stop now?

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                    • Author by Craig (March 25, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
                         

                      We did make through eight years with the guy who used well beyond his teens and had a dealer for a wife.

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                      • Author by princeofwheels (March 26, 2009 1:11 am ET)
                           

                        OUCH!!!!   TKO at 11:57:04pm....Sniper goes out.

                        Snipes, above you complained that no on was talking about Bush but now you refer to Obamas' teenage years. Something for you to remember, YOU do not set the rules. If you can handle that you'll be fine but please, quit the crybaby routine about Bush..It is you guys that have Bush Enrangement Syndrome...he was your leader.

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            • Author by tman418 (March 25, 2009 11:18 pm ET)
                 

              Yeah or if your ability to concentrate is hampered by rampant alcoholism and coke-snorting and "Barney-Cam" videos or if you're still dizzy from a DUI give to you back in the days where your entire blood stream had to be alcohol in order for the cops to even look at you.

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              • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:21 pm ET)
                   

                I wouldn't go so far as to say Obama was that involved with substance abuse, but you get the point.

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            • Author by pete592 (March 25, 2009 11:45 pm ET)
                 

              "Well, it might be easy to forget if your ability to concentrate is hampered by drug use while in your teens or that rose garden 'cigarette' right before a news conference."

              Becoming a constitutional law professor takes concentration.

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      • Author by thejbomb65 (March 26, 2009 11:12 am ET)
           

        of course they do, but they don't point it out.

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    • Author by LisaLV711 (March 25, 2009 10:10 pm ET)
         

      When are the conservatives-Republicans are going to go away? How much would it take to BAIL them out? I willing to start pitch in. How about the rest of you?

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    • Author by captfoster2 (March 25, 2009 10:21 pm ET)
         

      This thread is exactly why this --> LINK <-- is in full relevance!

      MMfA,

      I have posted this link before and you have deleted it for reasons I don't understand nor ever got an explaination as to why...

      But I'm not mad... I plead that you do not do so here... I firmly believe that this link is absolutely relevant to the issue you bring up.

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      • Author by steeve (March 25, 2009 10:36 pm ET)
           

        I've seen that link on here many times.  Thumbs up, by the way.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (March 26, 2009 1:14 am ET)
           

        Capt, I have this save in my favorites and send it out to my Righty friends when they quote Fox news. Thanks for the tip.

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    • Author by zamfir273114 (March 25, 2009 10:23 pm ET)
         

      Funny how all them President's prior to Obama were able to be "Presidential" naturally and without the help of a teleprompter.  At least he knows how to read.  I thought he was super intelligent so why does he need the help of these teleprompters?

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      • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:42 pm ET)
           

        Do people honestly think that Obama is incapable of thinking on his feet? What's the point to this criticism here? That he's a doofus without a cheat cheet or something?

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        • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:18 pm ET)
             

          Yes. A lot of people are beginning to believe he cannot think on his feet.

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          • Author by tman418 (March 25, 2009 11:26 pm ET)
               

            Other than the mere presence of a teleprompter, which is the most important thing to discuss right now according to the right, what evidence is there to back up their opinions?

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            • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:52 pm ET)
                 

              Paul Krugman's recent criticism of Obama's economic recovery plan.

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              • Author by tman418 (March 26, 2009 12:04 am ET)
                   

                That also makes no sense whatsoever. What does Krugman have to do with whether or not Obama can think on his feet and have an intelligent conversation with people.

                Oh, and as for your statement "Yes. A lot of people are beginning to believe he cannot think on his feet".

                http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/24/obama-approval-rating-goe_n_178453.html

                Obama Approval Rating Goes UP: CBS News Poll

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        • Author by neon desert (March 25, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
             

          Kind of sad that out of the whole republican party, and after 8 years of Bush administrative success, and with such intellectual luminaries as limpaugh, hannity and o'really?, they couldn't even find a candidate good enough to beat a doofus with a cheat sheet...

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          • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
               

            I have to admit, that does speak volumes about the republicans at this point.

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        • Author by Craig (March 25, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
             

          Do people honestly think that Obama is incapable of thinking on his feet? What's the point to this criticism here? That he's a doofus without a cheat cheet or something? - Carlileb5935

          Limbaugh told people to think that during the election. Obama isn't a thinker, he's been indoctrinated by radicals, etc. It's evolved into this teleprompter nonsense.

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      • Author by steeve (March 25, 2009 10:42 pm ET)
           

        Same reason you're smart enough to use a washing machine despite being able to learn how to beat clothes against a washboard.

        Can't you people see the PETTINESS?  How does this topic crack your top 10000 list?  Don't you know we're converting to socialism?

        The inanity is as thick as a fog.  Should Obama use a typewriter or a horse and buggy?  You should be turning on Rush and Hannity for wasting YOUR OWN friggin time.

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (March 25, 2009 10:51 pm ET)
             

          yeah, but the criticism itself is unbelievable and needs to be addressed. Obama's answers last night-- and his speaking style in general-- are always extremely lucid.

          Proof to the nonbelievers? The economy of his "so I know what I'm talking about" line. Remarkable. Perfect.

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        • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 10:56 pm ET)
             

          With that logic, why stop with a teleprompter, why not hire a seasoned actor to give his speeches for him? Then he could better allocate his time for deep thought and solving the cold-fusion dilemma.

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          • Author by tman418 (March 25, 2009 11:24 pm ET)
               

            People like to know the president is speaking to them. There would be mass conspiracy theories distracting people.

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            • Author by tman418 (March 25, 2009 11:27 pm ET)
                 

              Just like the right is doing by pounding again and again Obama's use of a teleprompter.

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          • Author by neon desert (March 25, 2009 11:26 pm ET)
               

            Only a party completely bereft of dignity, ideology, and integrity, a party so looked upon with disgust due to historic corruption, a party so disrespectful of the office, only a party like that would hire an actor to be president...

            ...oh....wait....

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          • Author by mr. l (March 25, 2009 11:28 pm ET)
               

            Clock!  Please leave the humor to me... thanks in advance!  

            I need the practice and you need to go out and actually hear people give live speeches- or even better, live debates!

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            • Author by princeofwheels (March 26, 2009 1:18 am ET)
                 

              Neon, That sounds like a sentence structure used by Hannity. But it is funny

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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (March 25, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
               

            I am guessing you voted for a seasoned actor twice, am I wrong?  Did he have a teleprompter during his news conference?  I think not.

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          • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 11:57 pm ET)
               

            Maybe he should pat his head and eat a pretzel at the same time, it sure worked for the last president. <choke! choke!>

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      • Author by LuvLuLu (March 25, 2009 11:04 pm ET)
           

        Presidents for decades have all used teleprompters when giving speeches.

        That way they don't have to look down at the written speech, and they don't have to memorize it.

        There is no shame in Obama using a teleprompter. It's very telling that you think that this is a valid criticism. It's not a flaw at all.

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      • Author by magnolialover (March 26, 2009 8:19 am ET)
           

        ALL of the Presidents BEFORE Obama used teleprompters. ALL of them.

        You guys are idiots.

        If you have something of value to criticize him about, fire away. But this is just ridiculous.

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    • Author by armadillo (March 25, 2009 10:45 pm ET)
         

      If he didn't use it they'd say "Obama is technically challenged - can't use a new-fangled TelePrompTer."

      It's like when Jesus walked on water. Headline the next day: "Jesus can't swim."

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      • Author by theclocktowersniper8151 (March 25, 2009 11:17 pm ET)
           

        Ah, another reference to the messiah. Ya gotta love it.

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        • Author by snoopy (March 25, 2009 11:40 pm ET)
             

          You should love the messiah, especially since republicans ran Judas and Mary Madgelin last election.

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    • Author by TelltaleHeart (March 26, 2009 1:11 am ET)
         
      Republicans only understand 'jokes' that involve childish humiliation of the educated, poor, civilised, or brown.
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    • Author by princeofwheels (March 26, 2009 1:26 am ET)
         
      Clocktower, After reading all posts in this thread, you lived up to your name. Your dispute about the teleprompter was prompted by the Loony Right but that is fine for discussion. You mentioned that in the past that Obama did stutter a little which seems to have been corrected. But the comments about hiring an actor, questioning his intelligence, you inability to understand the use of a teleprompter or written notes, his teenage drug use etc etc etc are my proof of your handle. Seems like you are CORRECT TWICE A DAY. Not a very good percentage considering the number of posts you write. Hey, twice in 24 hours, pretty good for an unwound ClockTower. Have a good night.
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    • Author by elliottcmitchell5395 (March 26, 2009 6:15 am ET)
         

      I can't believe nobody yet has mentioned that B Sky B is about 1/3 owned by Rupert Murdoch.

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    • Author by worrierking (March 26, 2009 8:44 am ET)
         

      Has anyone else noticed that in the last few months most of the conservative posters who spend several hours a day at this site have disappeared, only to be replaced by a new batch who use the same MO?

      I've long suspected that there are people who are payed to come and defend right wing positions. I could not imagine having the time to go to a conservative site and enter into all day Pee Wee vs. Francis "I know you are but what am I" debates day after day after day.

      They're either doing it while they're at work, or they go home and do it on their own time. If it's the latter they've got pretty empty lives.

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    • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 26, 2009 9:08 am ET)
         

      MMfA:

      In a March 24 blog post, Harnden quoted Englund's pool report and wrote: "That was pretty clear: there was a teleprompter mix up and the fall guy was Cowen. Obama stepped in after Cowen's five-minute speech to make a good-natured and well-received joke at the Irish premier's expense." Harnden further reported that he had obtained an audio recording of the event that confirms Englund's poll report and "removes all doubt" Obama was joking:

      "Removes all doubt"?  That is priceless considering there seems to be NO audio link as MMfA asserts.  Please link us up and let us decide who the "joke" was on.  

      I would think a link to the actual audio as Harden claims would the way to "prove" this as opposed to Rush relying his take.  

      I'm guessing that the Guinness was flowing and Cowen and O'Gump were drangle a muckle...

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      • Author by princeofwheels (March 26, 2009 9:33 am ET)
           

        TBONE, I think you are to something like actual needing proof of something before reporting it or even providing commentary on it. Please spread the word to the media and to TV and Radio talk showa. I am sure that it will be considered a rare jewel of information that they have seemed to 'gloss over' at times.

        But if you believe Rush, you'll believe anything. therefore, MMFA was just trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Shame on MMFA.

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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 26, 2009 2:48 pm ET)
             

          Weeeee...right over your head. 

          BBC was reporting it this way also.  Nobody has produced an audio/video link.  The news, Rush, and more to the point MMfA.  

          Instead they take an almost two week old story that had run out of steam and slip it in here without any evidence that it did or did not happen the way they spin it.  

          Why?  

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    • Author by terrapin53 (March 26, 2009 9:43 am ET)
         
      Sky News is England's Fox News. Enough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 26, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
           

        Terp, I know your kind is slow, but the Sky news piece is supporting your side....

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        • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 26, 2009 5:34 pm ET)
             

          Terp, I know your kind is slow, but the Sky news piece is supporting your side....tbone

          WTF are you on about!?   The quote from SkyNews is...

          SkyNews.com reported:

          A teleprompt blunder has led to Barack Obama thanking himself in a speech at the White House in a St Patrick's Day celebration.

          Can't you read for comprehension?

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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (March 27, 2009 8:25 am ET)
               

            Here is WTF I'm on about.  MMfA links a Sky news reports that says Barry O'Gump was just joking about his promter gaff and uses it to "prove" it was just that.  They are relying solely on the word of Harden.  They don't back it up with an A/V link.  Is the picture getting clearer now?  Do I need to spell it out for you anymore?  

            Did YOU even read the whole thread?  Comprehension is a terrible thing to waste...

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            • Author by Craig (March 27, 2009 10:44 am ET)
                 

              Classic! The idiot who misunderstood the article has the arrogance to lecture the people trying to set him straight.

              SkyNews got it wrong, and Hannity and Limbaugh joined them. The Telegraph, Fox News and CNN have it right. The firsthand account, the pool report, confirms it. The gaffe was made by Prime Minister Cowen, who realized his mistake and made a very funny joke. Obama then made another funny joke at Cowen's expense.

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            • Author by Brabantio (March 27, 2009 10:45 am ET)
                 

              I'm not sure what you're talking about either.

              "A laughing Mr Obama returned to the podium to take over but it seems the script had finally been switched and the US president ended up thanking himself for inviting everyone to the party."

              That's from SkyNews.  They're saying Obama read it off the teleprompter, so how do you conclude they reported he was "just joking"?  Harnden's comments are separate from that.

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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (March 27, 2009 12:09 pm ET)
                 

              MMfA links a Sky news reports that says Barry O'Gump was just joking about his promter gaff and uses it to "prove" it was just that. - tbonehead

              Really that's waht you think it says?  I suggest in future you read these items with a literate adult close by to help with the big words.

              Gawd you are freakin' THICK.

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    • Author by smarshall1432997 (March 26, 2009 10:06 am ET)
         

      FoxNews' always have their Talk Show Hosts "read" from a 'teleprompter', right?  Rush always "reads" his daily non-sense from cue cards and talking points from Heritage Foundation, right?  So, why is it a "joke" for America's President Obama to "read" from a teleprompter when these same people do the same thing? 

      Former Pres. Ronald Reagan was a "trained" Actor and I'm sure he had no problems with memorizing lines, but he still relied on his "pre-written" speeches by WH Staff Members.  These Republicans are just really out there with their made-up criticisms.  I see how the last 8 years got by them, and left President Obama with so many fires to put out.  Umph, umph, umph - these Republicans are just shameless.

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    • Author by robbo24 (March 26, 2009 1:56 pm ET)
         
      I seem to recall that idiot Reagon needing his wife to tell him what to say during a press conference. She was actually overheard telling Bonzo what to say. Too bad old Ronnie didn't have a teleprompter.
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    • Author by destinationsunknown.susan7251 (March 26, 2009 4:24 pm ET)
         
      MSNBC was on this theme for the entire first hour of their show on 3-25-09. I sent them the copy of Drudge via their email.
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    • Author by shaggles (March 26, 2009 6:30 pm ET)
         

      It seems like you aren't allowed to make a joke if you're a Democratic politician.  It's like when Al Gore said his mother used to rock him to sleep singing that union song.  At the event everyone knew it was a joke but the press turned it in to 'another trobling lie'.  As for teleprompter use in general how is it any different than having it written on paper.  That's the way every President in my lifetime has given their speeches.  And if you saw any of the Presidential debates you should know Obama doesn't 'need' a teleprompter to speak effectively.

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