Hannity misinforms on defense budget, missile defense
SUMMARY: Sean Hannity falsely claimed that President Obama ordered "drastic cuts in the military budget" and misleadingly cropped comments by Secretary Gates to criticize Obama over missile defense.
During the April 7 edition of Fox News' Hannity, host Sean Hannity falsely claimed that President Obama ordered "drastic cuts in the military budget" and misleadingly cropped comments Defense Secretary Robert Gates made during an April 6 press conference to criticize Obama over missile defense. Hannity asserted: "Despite the clear threat that a North Korean missile launch could pose to our allies and to our homeland, President Obama has ordered his secretary of Defense to make drastic cuts in the military budget, particularly in the area of missile defense." In fact, the Obama administration has proposed increasing defense spending by billions of dollars over the amount enacted in fiscal year 2009. As CNN.com noted on April 6, "The proposed overall fiscal year 2010 Defense Department budget is almost $534 billion, or nearly $664 billion when including the costs of the conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. The current Pentagon budget totals slightly over $513 billion, or almost $655 billion including the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts."
According to the White House, the administration's proposed budget for fiscal year 2010 requests $533.7 billion for the Department of Defense, "an increase of four percent from the 2009 enacted level of $513.3 billion," plus $130 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2010. As Media Matters for America documented, on April 6, Hannity similarly falsely claimed that "this administration is taking steps to cut defense spending.
Hannity also played a clip of Gates stating, "Overall, the Missile Defense Agency program will be reduced by $1.4 billion. ... We will not increase the number of current ground-based interceptors in Alaska as had been planned." In fact, immediately before and after saying, "We will not increase the number of ground-based interceptors in Alaska as had been planned," Gates addressed rogue state missile threats, asserting that his proposals would focus on such threats. Before the comment, he said, "[I]n the area of missile defense, we will restructure the program to focus on the rogue state and theater missile threat," and afterward, he said: "[W]e will continue to robustly fund continued research and development to improve the capability we already have to defend against long-range rogue missile threats, a threat North Korea's missile launch this past weekend reminds us is real."
From the Defense Department's transcript of Gates' April 6 press conference with parts Hannity omitted highlighted in italics:
Fourth, in the area of missile defense, we will restructure the program to focus on the rogue state and theater missile threat. We will not increase the number of current ground-based interceptors in Alaska, as had been planned, but we will continue to robustly fund continued research and development to improve the capability we already have to defend against long-range rogue missile threats, a threat North Korea's missile launch this past weekend reminds us is real.
We will cancel the second Airborne Laser Prototype Aircraft. We'll keep the existing aircraft and shift the program to an R&D effort. The ABL program has significant affordability and technology problems, and the program's proposed operational role is highly questionable. We will terminate the Multiple Kill Vehicle program because of its significant technical challenges and the need to take a fresh look at the requirement.
Overall, the Missile Defense Agency program will be reduced by $1.4 billion.
Moreover, contrary to Hannity's claim that "President Obama has ordered his secretary of Defense to make drastic cuts in the military budget, particularly in the area of missile defense" [emphasis added], Gates stated during his press conference, "I reached the final decisions after many hours of consultations with the military and civilian leadership of the department. I have also consulted closely with the president. But I received no direction or guidance from outside this department on individual program decisions. The Chairman and the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff are in complete accord with these recommendations."
From the April 7 edition of Fox News' Hannity:
HANNITY: And tonight's "Great Moment in Liberal Foreign Policy" is brought to you by the Obama White House and Kim Jong Il. Now, this weekend, the rogue nation of North Korea garnered the attention of the entire world when it launched a long-range missile that some analysts feared could have the capability of hitting, not just our allies in the region, but the states of Hawaii and Alaska.
And what reliable world body does our president decide to lean on during this time of crisis? Well, take a look.
OBAMA [video clip]: This action demands a response from the international community, including from the United Nations Security Council, to demonstrate that its resolution cannot be defied with impunity.
HANNITY: Now, that's just the start of it. Despite the clear threat that a North Korean missile launch could pose to our allies and to our homeland, President Obama has ordered his secretary of Defense to make drastic cuts in the military budget, particularly in the area of missile defense.
GATES [video clip]: Overall, the Missile Defense Agency program will be reduced by $1.4 billion. ... We will not increase the number of current ground-based interceptors in Alaska as had been planned.
HANNITY: So, let me get this straight. North Korea launches a missile, and the very next day, the president decides to cut the missile defense budget -- another brilliant foreign policy move by team Obama.















speaking of Dobbs......anyone catch that one neo con strategist who said president obama hates america and then lied about it 5 mins after
Caught that. Old Lou was just smiling away. He also seemed quite confused over the polls showing independants supporting the prez at a rate of 67%.
probably because dobbs thinks that they all follow him.
I certainly did! Ironicly, he said this the SAME day Obama was affirming his love for the country in his opening remarks during his town hall in Turkey.
you don't happen to remember the name of the chumpion who spouted that garbage do you?
Because gainful employment as a speedbump is beyond his intellect?
There is a great article in this month's Vanity Fair about Ole BlunderRush. The average age of his listeners is 67. Not that there is anything wrong with being 67, but those folks are not exactly the movers and shakers in the Country.
The average age of Sheer Insannity's fans? Who has 3 hours a day to listen to this amount of mis-information?
And, Memo to GM: How is that huge expense advertising on Insannity's radio show working for you?
The truth begins to come out!
One of the main climate change deniers wants to keep a boondoggle project in his state:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/08/us/politics/08defense.html?_r=1
Quelle surprise! Let's waste more taxpayer money on military programs that don't make sense.
Read "Mr. Smith is Dead" - and then cry, cry, cry...
Gates basically said "We're going to stop throwing good money after bad money and work with what we've got." What we should understand is that Hannity will always find a way around the truth if it has political value. I would never have been surprised if Gates had actually increased spending on missile defense and Hannity responded (with a complete 180 on the matter) by saying the program doesn't work and that it's more wasteful spending.
Remember, Hannity's basically building a pool of issues in his viewers' heads to which they can refer throughout Obama's presidency. None of it has to be true so long as Hannity keeps the narrative going. So long as he's consistent, his viewers will believe it. He's not stupid that way. He understands what is necessary to maintain a lie. That's why he's a capable propagandist. That's why his viewers and listeners won't turn away from him.
TheDayV, Thank you for explaining Hannity's motivation..For the life of me I couldn't figure out why he needs damage the truth. I could only see his hate, but you actually make an excellent point of his need to be consistent with his narrative. Thanks
Sean Hannity has taken a commanding lead in the competition for the MMFA 2009 Misinformer of the Year.
He is the Secretariat of the Liars Club. The race is over for 2009 and SeannieTheUnrepentantSissyBoyLiar is the favorite for 2010.
I like that "Unrepentant" . He (Seany ) loves the way that word feels rolling off his long flickering toungue. I'm going to start refering to all of them, Seany, Rushie, Glenny and all the other whiny little girls, as unrepentant this and that, but mainly Unrepentant Liars.
since when does the mannity have our best interests at heart.....his only interests has been and always will be ratings.....always
Obama has called Hannity out many times. Source for what "you heard"?
I heard that too. The reason the Obama administration won't go after him because they have much bigger fish to fry. They're going to leave it to the other Republican'ts. You know, they eat their young!
Thing is Sean, the missile defense program has never worked. It is a black hole into which billions upon billions has been thrown into. It just doesn't work. They haven't had an impact with an incoming projectile yet in the program's history. This is why they are talking about cutting it.
This is the same old refrain we heard from republicans when Clinton was in office, and the republicans in Congress cut the military budget, somehow, that was Clinton's fault as well. Amazing these guys, just amazing.
This is a lie.
I posted two links on the other Hannity thread for you to show you the error of this statemnet. Either you're out an out lying or you've taken one failed test and condem the whole program.
You claim to be an aerospace enthusiast. I suggest you educate yourself before making these asinine statements.
Missile Defense Agency
Israel's Arrow 2 launch
MDAA Hits and Misses
Well planned, all the bases covered, multi-national tests are meaningless.
Let's see how they'd respond if missiles were launched with no warning. Hopefully, they'd be successful, but we'll never know until they're used, not just tested.
Times are hard, getting harder and even the military has too tighten it's belt. It sucks, but they'll have to deal with it.
Rather than spending billions more on Star Wars they should strip down the way contracts are given and fulfilled. No more overruns. Defense contractors have run the show for far too long. They're in bed with the brass while they're on active duty and hire them after they're retired at fabulous salaries.
No wonder everything costs so much.
Diplomacy is cheaper. Obama gets it. Bush the Lesser did not.
Bowing to the Saudi KIng...yeah Barry O'Gump gets it. Amateur hour at it's finest. I bet he wishes he had Hillary's "Do-Over" button to reverse that and the hug of the queen mum.
Notice this has been talked about incessantly on the MSM, yet curiously no mention of the "bow" here on MMfA? I'm sure there has been just a tad of Conservative misinformation in the coverage...right?
Why is that?
well because the british royal family likes president obama alot better than W. so they are warmer to him. as for the saudi king...well as far as i understand that was protocol and the correct thing to do.
had the saudi king come to the US, only a handshake would have taken place.
Correct me if I'm wrong Jbomb, but NO President has EVER bowed to ANY royal power, figure head or not.
If Barry is changing that paradigm then so be it, but that's not how the WH is spinning it. They are saying it was Barry "bending over" to shake hands.
"Bowing to the Saudi KIng...yeah Barry O'Gump gets it. Amateur hour at it's finest." - Tbone Slickens
You're right, Tb; the bow - actually more of a nod - was amateur compared to lengths Bubble Boy went to show his affection:
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2005/04/25/image690875x.jpg
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"Bubble Boy", didn't do that to the queen.
I agree it was inappropriate and I said so on this forum at the time.
i would dubb him George the Fowler......but that would be insulting to the first Ottonian Holy Roman Emperor Henry the Fowler (he got the nickname because he liked to hunt), father of Otto The Great
tbone,
Are you sure? Do you have a classified clearance? Do you actually work on these projects? Have you ever participated in a strategic war game session?
First, identify the threat.
Second think through the scenario. What government would launch a nuclear missile or missiles against the US knowing we have nearly 8,000 nuclear weapons deployed around the globe, and 3,000 in reserve?
From a technology perspective, there is a profound distinction between hitting a single known target with no decoys with a transponder on a known trajectory with prior warning....and shooting down multiple missiles launched without warning with a variety of decoy technologies.
Yes I'm sure. Yes; No I don't work on these projects now, but Yes I did. I've worked with Janus, JCATS and STRICOM and did some joint work with the SAASS.
Which Sim's did you work on?
i assume you must be ex-air force
Army actually, but did several Joint exercises over my career. I was stationed at Ft. Bliss, TX which is the Army's Air Defense school and so I did my fair share of work with AD soldiers.
Why do we need to spend anything on missile defense?
According to Newt we've already got laser beams that can destroy missiles before they're even launched.
I say we stop the Star wars program and give money to the mice and Acorn.
The % of defense spending to total US GDP, the most commonly-stated defense spending ratio, is falling under Obama's proposed budget. It's like the tax rate debate..both sides can look at it how they want and be wrong and right at the same time.
I would think that ratio is useful for accounting for inflation, but not when other expenditures have increased. It doesn't seem particularly legitimate to claim that spending is going down even by that logic.
It's mostly used to compare countries' defense spending characteristics, although I don't think it's probably the only fair judgment.
The Obama Administration gets the largest tax cut in US history passed, and Sheer Insannity yells about "raising taxes."
The Obama Administration proposes the largest defense/military budget in US history and Sheer Insannity yells about "cutting defense spending."
What's his new slogan? "I make up the "facts;" You decide?"
to digress a bit:
i still do not like the term "homeland" to describe the US.
makes me think of... well, you know.
to digress, rhetorically, even further: how come only olbermann singles out hannity for scrutiny in any statistically significant way...?
jmh: Excellent point! I've never been comfortable with "homeland." It just doesn't ring true...
I'm with you. That homeland name is a bit creepy.
Like it was created at The Ministry of Truth and we're living in Oceania and at war with Eurasia or Eastasia.
Dear Worrierking,
We have read your posts on MMFA for some time now. Please show me your source that we are no longer at war with Eurasia or Eastasia. I did not see any surrender from either of those enemies. Please quit trying to confuse us. These are terrifying, dangerous and scary times Seannie says so. To dismiss the international struggle with those to enemies is..treason. You are not a great American like we are.
Thank You for your Time, you commie, facist socialist person.
Signed,
SeannieTheSissyBoys Fan Club.
P.S. We are all over 80 years old so please let us know where those kids that listen are located. We need new members. We are dying off fast.
Correction. That's commie, facist socialist vermin.
A Grand Slam..circle the bases King.
Psst..Eastabunnie.
I kinda like hannity lies, myself.
hannity lies, with himself and other men.
no problem with that either.
The good part is that neither Barack Obama or William Gates worries about the Right screaming "Soft On Defense!" That way they can make decisions that, in the cold light of day, should have been made a long time ago.
The missile defense system DOES--NOT--WORK. The insanity of deploying a ystem that fails its tests should be obvious. Like the F-22, it's a boondoggle, a jobs program, and corporate welfare, and not a defense asset.
Thank God somebody's putting this Reagan sacred cow out to pasture.
Wrong. Please provide a current link to back up your assertion. Anything pre '00 doesn't count.
Better yet go look at my links of hits and misses in reply to Mag.
The way to overwhelm a missle defense is just to shoot more missle than the defense can respond to.
Really? Wow...we never thought of that...
I know it has been cut and pasted to this site 1000's of times -- but here it is again --
"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." -- Pres. Eishenhower
We need men like Ike. We get hammerheads like Hannity.
Another brilliant misinforming.....well lets just call it what it is, LYING segment by team Hannity!
The day will come, hopefully, when we can say to Hannity what Ricky Ricardo said to Lucy, "You got a lotta 'splaining to do!"
Heritage Foundation backs up Hannity. Media Matters misinforms again (shocking!)
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/04/09/hannity-right-media-matters-wrong-on-missle-defense-and-budget/
Ah, The Heretic, er, Heritage Foundation. Now THERE'S a non-biased source!