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REPORT: Emerging Culture of Paranoia

Obama Derangement Syndrome epidemic on conservative airwaves

April 13, 2009 4:13 pm ET

SUMMARY: Conservative media have directed their violent, doomsday, and anti-intellectual rhetoric at progressives in power, and specifically at President Obama, whom fake populists in conservative media depict as a threat to their audience's very way of life.

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In recent months, the violent, doomsday, and anti-intellectual rhetoric that has long been a staple of conservative media has taken a notable turn in at least three significant ways: previously confined to the right-wing media fringe, the rhetoric is now a constant across the full spectrum of conservative media; it is louder and meaner, with conservative media figures appealing overtly to feelings of anger and paranoia in their audience; and it is focused, tied to the specific political aim of undermining the Obama administration and the Congress.

None other than David Horowitz notes "an interesting phenomenon on the Right, which is beginning to cause me concern": "the over-top-hysteria in response to the first months in office of our new president." Horowitz calls this "hysteria" "Obama Derangement Syndrome."

Indeed, the rise of anti-government speech -- and the explosion of anti-Obama rhetoric -- on right-wing radio, Fox News, and among conservatives in other media outlets tracks directly with the arrival of the new administration and its broad efforts to address the myriad and interlocking problems confronting the country. Rather than engaging in substantive policy analysis and critique, the Glenn Becks, Sean Hannitys, and Rush Limbaughs of radio and television insult their audience with simplistic attacks on Obama and his administration's initiatives.

Far from informing the public, Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, and numerous others on Fox News and elsewhere launch attacks at Obama, progressives, and their policy proposals with accusations of any one or more "isms" that bear no relationship to reality or even to each other. They warn darkly of purported efforts by the Obama administration to cede U.S. sovereignty to a world order rather than engaging in meaningful discussions about the United States' role and image in the world. They scapegoat vulnerable groups, encouraging the perception that undocumented immigrants, the poor, and racial and ethnic minorities are to blame for economic problems in this country. During a time of numerous high-profile acts of gun violence, they claim with alarm that Obama intends to seize their guns. Fox News has adopted the Tax Day "tea parties" as its own, urging its audience to organize and attend what it characterizes as protests of Obama administration tax and economic policies; the network's promotions of these tea-party protests have been largely devoid of meaningful and truthful discussion of the actual merits and flaws in the administration's proposals for reform -- and of little substantive attention to the question of whether Fox News' audience would be better or worse off under those proposals the network is encouraging its audience to protest.

On his show, Beck has gone so far as to purport to imitate Obama pouring gasoline on the American public to light it on fire.

The demagoguery in the conservative media could have real consequences for the country and for efforts by law and policymakers to address serious problems. It is a disservice to the conservative media's audience and to the country, involving distortions of issues with falsehoods and with rhetoric and imagery that incite anger rather than encouraging citizens to engage meaningfully in political and legislative debate and process.

Media Matters for America is tracking this explosion of anti-government rhetoric in the conservative media and has published the following:

Violent, Revolutionary Rhetoric

Conservative media unleash violent, revolutionary rhetoric

Since Obama's inauguration, Media Matters has documented numerous instances where conservative media figures have called for a "revolution" or have invoked violent rhetoric while discussing the Obama administration or government in general. In addition to encouraging violence, such violent rhetoric has also included suggesting Obama's policies were doing violence to the American people and depicting Obama as a rapist, spousal abuser, or mobster.

Beck imitates Obama pouring gasoline on "average American"; says: "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire? ... We didn't vote to lose the Republic"

Newsbusters' Sheppard fans the flames

Levin: Government engaging in "economic child abuse" and is "enslaving" our children

After Washington banned some kinds of dishwasher detergent, RedState.com's Erickson pondered committing violence against state legislators

Morris: "Those crazies in Montana who say, 'We're going to kill ATF agents because the U.N.'s going to take over' -- well, they're beginning to have a case"

Beck portrays Obama, Democrats as vampires "going after the blood of our businesses," suggests "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers"

Fox & Friends hosts former mobster to compare Dems to crime family

Newsbusters' Sheppard defends Limbaugh by pointing to patriotism of secessionists

World Net Daily columnist compares Obama to spousal abuser, while calling abused women "dunderhead[s]"

Warnings of incipient "isms"

Conservatives warn of social-fasc-commun-Nazi-McCarthy-Marxism

Media Matters has documented numerous examples of conservatives in the media warning of socialism, fascism, communism, Nazism, McCarthyism, and Marxism, or using such language to describe Obama or other Democrats.

Beck: "I was wrong. Our government is not marching down the road towards communism or socialism... they're marching us to a brand of non-violent fascism... towards 1984"

Jonah Goldberg on auto bailout: "You can call it corporatism, you can call it socialism, you can call it fascism, what it is not is liberal democratic capitalism"

Beck: "The government is a heroin pusher using smiley-faced fascism to grow the nanny state"

FNC's Napolitano says Wagoner's resignation is "an absolute power grab and it's the road to fascism", "this is Mussolini on the Potomac"

Fox News' Carlson asks, "Are we headed toward socialism?"

Discussing Obama "power grab," Gingrich says Goldberg's "frighteningly prescient" Liberal Fascism describes "how the left is thinking this year"

Hannity: Obama administration is pushing "the single biggest power grab and move towards socialism in the history of the country"

MacCallum on Rep. Bachmann's claim that Obama proposals are a "lurch toward socialism": "I think you're absolutely right about that"

Scarborough declares "Socialism is hard...you want to socialize entire sectors, and you can't even get people to work in the Treasury Department"

Limbaugh expands upon his Frank-McCarthy comparison and the "popular myth that McCarthy falsely accused people of things"

Echo chamber: Fox News' Smith joins Limbaugh, MacCallum in comparing Rep. Frank to McCarthy

Hannity declares today "Day number 52 of the socialism that you've been waiting for"

Rodgers claims Obama "clearly is more sympathetic with the long-term goals of world communism, and let's be blunt about it, Muslim terrorists, than with any legitimate American goals"

Fox News' Asman warns "[w]e ignore" Czech President Klaus' "advice" that "the road to socialism is the road to serfdom" at "our own peril"

False advertising: Beck show promo denounced calling Dems communists, but he often does that on his show

Scarborough on America "moving closer toward European-style socialism:" "That's not a right-wing claim it's the truth"

Fox News VP and Washington Managing Editor Sammon: Obama has an "agenda towards socialism"

Buchanan offers mixed metaphors on socialism in response to Obama proposals, claims, "for conservatives, this is pitchfork time"

On Beck, Byrnes smeared CO solar energy company as "socialist"

Fox & Friends asks: "Are we headed towards Socialism?"

Special Report takes a "fair and balanced look" at whether the recovery plan is "socialism"

Wash. Times invokes Nazism, publishes Hitler photo while criticizing health-care provisions in stimulus

On CNN, Rollins and Castellanos compare recovery plan to Soviet and Cuban communism, socialism

Beck on O'Reilly Factor: "We are really truly stepping beyond socialism and starting to look at fascism"; compares proposals to Nazi Germany

Numerous media figures equate Pelosi's defense of family planning provision in recovery package to China's "one-child policy," eugenics, Nazism

KFSO's Sussman compares Pelosi's contraception comments to Nazism, claims we're on our way to a "one child policy in this country"

Days after decrying those who say Democrats are "trying to turn us into communist Russia," Beck claimed Obama "has Marxist tendencies"

Promoting upcoming Fox show, Beck -- who has called Obama "a Marxist" and criticized "Comrade Clinton" -- decries communist name-calling

Dobbs: America is "moving toward a combination of corporate power and political power" that is "disturbingly similar to what we witnessed in Italy in the 1930s"

Hannity claimed the "federal government...is destroying our economic system as we currently know it"

Hannity on auto bailout: "The administration is on a mission to hijack capitalism in favor of collectivism... The Bolsheviks have already arrived"

Napolitano: "[T]he Obama administration is trashing the Constitution in order to micromanage the economy, Soviet-style"

New World Order

Black helicopter alert! Conservative media suggest Obama supporting one-world government

Since Obama's inauguration, Media Matters has documented many examples where conservative media figures have asserted or suggested that U.S. sovereignty may give way to a one-world government.

Media figures advance false claim that Obama ceded economic sovereignty at G-20 summit

Morris: "Those crazies in Montana who say, 'We're going to kill ATF agents because the U.N.'s going to take over' -- well, they're beginning to have a case"

Fox's Charles Payne: "[O]ne day, I think that we are heading toward a one-world sort of government. I think Obama probably likes that"

Obama will "take away your gun"

Media conservatives fearmongering: Obama will "take away your gun"

Since President Obama's election, several conservative media figures have warned their audiences that Obama is planning to, according to Beck, "slowly but surely take away your gun or take away your ability to shoot a gun, carry a gun" or have suggested that a government effort to ban guns is likely.

Boehlert: Glenn Beck and the rise of Fox News' militia media

After criticizing people alleging that Poplawski "killed three cops because he thought Obama was coming to take his guns," Mike Gallagher proposes "a national movement to register as many people as we can ... to become gun owners"

Liddy advises listeners: "[N]o matter what law they pass, do not -- repeat, not -- ever register any of your firearms"

Tea Parties

"Fair and balanced" Fox News aggressively promotes "tea party" protests

Despite its repeated insistence that its coverage is "fair and balanced" and its invitation to viewers to "say 'no' to biased media," Fox News has frequently aired segments encouraging viewers to get involved with "tea party" protests across the country, which the channel has often described as primarily a response to Obama's fiscal policies. Media Matters has compiled an analysis of Fox News' promotion of these events.

Beck says you can "celebrate with Fox News" at any of four "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties"

Scapegoating of vulnerable groups

Conservative media consistently scapegoat undocumented immigrants, ACORN

In discussions of major news stories, conservatives in the media have repeatedly turned to two favorite bogeymen -- undocumented immigrants and ACORN -- in place of substantive analysis, even when those groups have little or nothing to do with the issue.

Limbaugh forwards myths that Community Reinvestment Act, Rep. Frank responsible for mortgage crisis

Fox News' Baier advanced conservative attacks on CRA, repeated falsehood about Rep. Frank

Myths and falsehoods about the purported link between affordable housing initiatives and the financial crisis

Politico's Libit repeated Gingrich's false claim days after Politico reported such claims were inaccurate

Media figures falsely accuse Democrats of attempting to direct millions of dollars to ACORN

WSJ's Fund falsely claimed that ACORN "almost got a slush fund in the housing bailout bill"

WSJ editorial leaves out relevant information in smear of ACORN

On Dobbs, radio host claimed HUD said "about 5 million illegal alien home mortgage loans ... have gone bad," but HUD reportedly says stat is bogus

Conservative radio hosts claimed HUD said 5 million illegal immigrants were given subprime mortgages, despite HUD's reported denials

Faced with economic turmoil, media conservatives turn to class warfare

CNN reports leave out relevant facts on ACORN voter registration allegations

Fox News' Kelly mocked ACORN for accurate statement about Florida registration law

Dick Morris baselessly accused ACORN of "committing voter fraud"

Myths and falsehoods surrounding the economic recovery plan

The Hill, UPI uncritically reported false GOP claim that Dems steered recovery money to ACORN

SF Chronicle reported false claim that $4.19 billion of recovery plan "would go to" ACORN

Parroting GOP, Dittohead Limbaugh dutifully launches false ACORN attack

Limbaugh says ACORN "got three and a half billion dollars from the stimulus bill"

Fox Business Network joins with GOP senators to further spread false ACORN attack

Fox & Friends' Doocy repeated false claim that stimulus package includes $4 billion for ACORN

Wash. Times echoes recovery bill falsehoods on undocumented immigrants, ACORN

Parroting GOP, CNN's Dobbs baselessly claimed recovery bill provides $4 billion in funding for "so-called advocacy groups such as ACORN"

Dobbs again peddles baseless GOP claim that recovery bill has $4 billion for "groups such as ACORN"

Fox News' Van Susteren ignored Graham's economic recovery falsehoods

Rove latest to advance false claim that recovery bill "funnel[s]" money to ACORN

Morris uses boogeyman of nonexistent ACORN funds to solicit funds for GOP group

Bill Cunningham claims stimulus "give[s] ACORN up to $4.2 trillion" and contains "$350 million to hand out condoms and birth control pills so the poor can fornicate like rabbits"

Cameron uncritically repeats GOP talking point that final version of stimulus bill includes funds that will go to ACORN

Confirmed: AP has received GOP talking points

For four hours after AP correction, Drudge flogged false claim about undocumented immigrants

Limbaugh, Hannity, and the GOP: an iron triangle of stimulus misinformation

AP's retracted stimulus bill falsehood finds a new home at Fox

Will Dobbs retract his stimulus bill falsehood?

Politico advances GOP's communist smear against MN secretary of state

Pat Robertson says "it's time the Republicans gave the Democrats a dose of their own medicine," states they "ought to filibuster every single one" of Obama's judicial nominees

Fox News' Bream uncritically repeats conservative claim Obama judicial nominee "has ties" to ACORN

At Fox News, guilty until proven innocent

Fox's Megyn Kelly asks ACORN spokesman: "You're going to send child rapists out to conduct the census?"

CNN's Sylvester misled on House SCHIP bill's effect on budget and its citizenship verification process

Dobbs again promoted GOP claims that SCHIP could benefit undocumented immigrants

AP, CNN report that Obama represented ACORN, but not that DOJ was also a plaintiff in the lawsuit

Doom and Gloom

Outbreak: Limbaugh spreads Obama Derangement Syndrome

Since Obama's inauguration, Limbaugh has made numerous baseless and ominous claims warning of what will happen if the United States adopts either Obama's policies or those pushed by other progressives, often while invoking fears of rising socialism, communism, and tyranny.

Limbaugh "concerned" that under Obama, "our greatness is going to be redefined in such a way that it won't be great, that we're just going to become average"

Limbaugh: "Thank you President Obama. Thank you CNN. You are doing the job that everybody expects of you, taking every tradition and institution that defined this country's greatness and trying to rip it to shreds"

Limbaugh: "I want the stimulus package to fail," "I want everything he's doing to fail."

Limbaugh on "the economic war": "If Obama is our general, this war is lost"

Limbaugh says Obama wants I-bankers "to be hated," asks, "You don't think this guy has a bug up his dress ... chip on his shoulder about wealthy people?"

Limbaugh on Obama administration: "They are focused on the destruction of the private sector. This is an all-out assault on capitalism"

Limbaugh on people who work on Wall Street: "People want families like yours to suffer. They want you to understand how hard life is for them and that's why they support Obama"

Limbaugh: Obama "is a gutless wonder; he is seeking as much chaos and depression among average Americans as he can get"

Limbaugh: Geithner testified about "how he intends to destroy our capitalist system with Barney Frank banging the gavel in support"

Limbaugh: "If President Obama succeeds with this, our nation fails"

Limbaugh: "Based on what we've seen with General Motors and the banks, if he fails, America is saved. Barack Obama's policies and their failure is the only hope we've got to maintain the America of our founding."

Limbaugh quotes Ayn Rand - "The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters and intends to be the master" - and says, "That is President Obama."

Limbaugh on difference between Dems and GOP: Dems hate life, liberty, happiness

Limbaugh on calls for political "compromise" and "bipartisanship": "Should Jesus have made a deal with Satan?"

Limbaugh likens Democrats to murderers, rapists, and "this Muslim guy" that "offed his wife's head"

Limbaugh on the Employee Free Choice Act (EFCA): "One day Tony Soprano will walk in with a lead pipe and he will start beating people upside the head to vote to unionize"

Limbaugh is "sure" threats to AIG execs were made by "deranged leftists from the Democrat blogs" because "they're the ones that hate capitalists"

Limbaugh expands upon his Frank-McCarthy comparison and the "popular myth that McCarthy falsely accused people of things"

Returning to "Tony Soprano ... with his lead pipe" analogy to blast EFCA, Limbaugh declares: "Nobody wants their kneecaps busted. I'm speaking figuratively, of course"

Limbaugh: Rep. Frank and Sen. Dodd are "toxic congressmen," "poison members of our government"

Limbaugh on the Pay for Performance Act of 2009: "When the leftists start talking about fairness, they are the slave masters"

Limbaugh continues mob references in discussion of EFCA: "Tony Soprano standing in your business with a baseball bat or a lead pipe"

Limbaugh's website claims of Obama: "His education plan is Maoist ... and he is otherwise a Bolshevik. ... [H]e would be a Stalinist if he thought he could get away with it"

Limbaugh on Cuomo's letter asking for names of AIG bonus recipients, negotiators: "Is [Cuomo] working out of the Reichstag or what?"

Discussing upcoming "Earth hour," Limbaugh calls Obama "an extremist tyrannical president"

Limbaugh: "Maybe we have descended into a nation that sort of loves the concept of soft tyranny."

Limbaugh: "We are Venezuela in the early years."

Pandemic: Limbaugh's Obama Derangement Syndrome spreads through conservative media

Numerous conservative media figures have followed Limbaugh's lead in making increasingly dire predictions about the consequences that policies sought by Obama and other progressives might have for the country.

Hannity: "Robert Gates ought to resign, and resign now" because he "wants to preside over the single dumbest defense scale-down in American history"

Hannity suggests America is "no longer the land of the free and the land of opportunity, but the land of the nanny state"

Hannity falsely claimed Obama administration "taking steps to cut defense spending"

Hannity claimed the "federal government...is destroying our economic system as we currently know it"

Hannity on auto bailout: "The administration is on a mission to hijack capitalism in favor of collectivism... The Bolsheviks have already arrived"

Hannity promo asks if Obama budget is "a way for the government to completely control our lives"

Hannity fear-mongering: "If the government takes too much money ... just like if it was a terror attack against America, Americans will get hurt."

Gingrich says Democratic proposals "absolutely moves you towards a political dictatorship"

Hannity: "It sounds to me like in many ways, even linguistically, we have literally, you know, surrendered" to terrorists

Beck denies responsibility for Pittsburgh shooting, adds that Obama "will slowly but surely take away your gun or take away your ability to shoot a gun, carry a gun"

Beck portrays Obama, Democrats as vampires "going after the blood of our businesses," suggests "driv[ing] a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers"

Beck claims Americorps bill "basically indoctrinates your child into community service through the federal government"

Beck: "I read an article ... that said 'the Manchurian Candidate couldn't destroy us faster than Barack Obama' "

Tax deduction change latest Obama proposal Beck claims "involves enslaving people"

Morris again falsely claimed Obama "gave away our economic sovereignty to Europe" by agreeing to international financial regulation

Media figures advance false claim that Obama ceded economic sovereignty at G-20 summit

Morris: "Those crazies in Montana who say, 'We're going to kill ATF agents because the U.N.'s going to take over' -- well, they're beginning to have a case"

Savage: "Obama has a plan to force children into a paramilitary domestic army"

Savage declares emerging "dictator[]" Obama to be "out of control" and says "I think it is time to start talking about impeachment"

Gaffney: "[H]ow Barack Obama spells respect is S-U-B-M-I-S-S-I-O-N"

Gaffney in Wash. Times: "[I]t increasingly appears" Obama "will be embracing the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood"

O'Reilly asks if Obama is "selling out America" in favor of a "global justice jihad"

Dobbs: America is "moving toward a combination of corporate power and political power" that is "disturbingly similar to what we witnessed in Italy in the 1930s"

Fox News' Varney: Obama administration will "coerce or force us all into buying the small cars that it insists Detroit puts out"

Napolitano: "[T]he Obama administration is trashing the Constitution in order to micromanage the economy, Soviet-style"

Scarborough on America "moving closer toward European-style socialism:" "That's not a right-wing claim it's the truth"

On Dobbs, WOR's Malzberg claims Obama "does not love this country" and "is trying to do what Hugo Chavez has done to Venezuela"

Limbaugh guest host Steyn declared U.S. is "hanging upside down in the bondage dungeon being flogged and humiliated by the rest of the planet"

Levin: Government engaging in "economic child abuse" and is "enslaving" our children

Radio host Lee Rodgers on Obama's relationship with the Islamic world: "I think the guy's out to sell us out"

Larson on Obama: "A lot of us want him to fail in most of what he's asking the country to do because we view it as an existential threat."

Burnett claims bailout recipient bonus tax "to some echo[es] the Russian and French Revolutions," asks: "[I]s America starting to look like Venezuela?"

On Today, Cramer attacked Obama's "radical agenda" and claimed "this is the most, greatest wealth destructive I've seen by a President"

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    • Author by peebs755 (April 13, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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      When I listen to right wing talk radio, or watch right wing TV, I'm struck by the projection of it all. They keep harping about things that their own party did, and sct like the Democratic Party is the blame. It was Bush and the republicans that lessened freedoms in our country under the auspices of "the war on terror". Obama's adiministration has been recalling these onerous practices, and the right acts like he's the one responsible. They also need to get and start using a dictionary. Their use of a myriad of terms shows their lack of understanding of the English Language.

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      • Author by shoes89 (April 13, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
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        C'mon ... Let's get real.

        The paranoia among the far-left during the Bush admninistration was unparalled. It's not even close to what's going on now.

        Remember how the far-left screeched about "wiretaps" on "ordinary citizens" and everyone "losing their rights"? How about the claim that 9/11 was a "controlled demolition"? That the war in Iraq was planned "from Day One"? How about the claim that Bush "took joy" in watching people die in Katrina? (I won't even touch the claim that the levee breech was supposedly man-made as well.)

        Like I said last week, when MM is getting its headline ("Obama Derangemenet Syndrome") from David Horowitz (!), you know it's a really sloooooow day for "conservative misinformation."

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        • Author by jjamele2880 (April 13, 2009 5:15 pm ET)
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          It's hardly worth the effort but....

          1.  Name me one Democratic Party elected official who promoted the "controlled demolition" theory.  While you're at it, Google "Vince Foster Murdered" and see Dan Barton, R-Ind., demonstrate how Foster was killed, using watermelons to represent Foster's head.

          2.  Why do you put quotation marks around "wiretaps?" They were wiretaps.  Why do you put quotation marks around "ordinary citizens?"  Ordinary citizens WERE wiretapped.

          3.  Name me one Democratic Party elected official who said that Bush "took joy" in watching people die in Katrina (by using quotation marks, it sure seems like you are QUOTING SOMEBODY.  So please tell us- who are you quoting? 

          4.  Name me one Democratic Party elected official who claimed that the breach in the levees was man-made.  I'll be here waiting.

          Clearly, you are a "Moron" who "makes things up" but covers up for your "lack of information" by using inappropriate "quotation marks."  Trust me, it doesn't make you look any "smarter."

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          • Author by funnymanpants (April 13, 2009 5:17 pm ET)
               

            >> Trust me, it doesn't make you look any "smarter."

            That was pretty "funny!"

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          • Author by pete592 (April 14, 2009 12:05 am ET)
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            Just another Shoes hit-and-run.  Archaic, unsubtantiated, and cowardly.

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          • Author by shoes89 (April 14, 2009 10:23 am ET)
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            Hey, jjamle2880: Why is the standard suddenly "Democratic elected official"?

            MM doesn't use any Republican elected officials in their headlines! What you're doing is called, "Moving the goalpost."

            And the name-calling you employ. Not cool at all.

            :(

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            • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 14, 2009 11:43 am ET)
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              Hey, jjamle2880: Why is the standard suddenly "Democratic elected official"?

              Perhaps because he used elected Republican officials to refute your stupidity while noting you couldn't even begin to come up with an example of the same from the other side of the aisle.

              And the name calling you employ? Not intelligent at all.

              :( FAIL.

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              • Author by shoes89 (April 14, 2009 2:20 pm ET)
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                ETRW: "Perhaps because he used elected Republican officials ..."

                You mean he named ONE Republican official. C'mon . You're both deflecting the issue.

                I made my point. JJ couldn't refute it, so he/she changed the subject. He "moved the goalpoat" to an irrelevant issue about "elected Democratic officials." (I'm not going to play a silly game, although I could easily get started with comments by folks like Cynthia McKinney.)

                Nice try.

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                • Author by solon (April 14, 2009 4:05 pm ET)
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                  You didnt make a point. You made an accusation. A ridiculous one. No one could possibly take seriously that what you called paranoia on the left was worse than the anti Clinton hysteria nor what is going on now. Bush was given a chance. He was a disaster and there was an appropriate response from the left. Clinton did a pretty good job and the rightwing obsession with him was demented. Obama has been in office for a few months and the right is apoplectic. Only a comittment to partisan blindness could call the lefts reaction to Bush worse than what Clinton and Obama are getting

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              • Author by fairliberal (April 14, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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                The post he was responding to said the "far left" not elected officials. That is how you typically excuse the despicable behavior of the far left. But since you brought up the behavior of elected officials, how do you feel about Murtha calling our troops "murderers".

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 14, 2009 11:40 am ET)
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            Google "Vince Foster Murdered" and see Dan Barton, R-Ind.

            That's Burton (R - braINDead). He also called Bill Clinton a "scumbag" (which is slang for a used condom) on the floor of the House of Representatives. Not a single Republican took him to task for using such language in Congress against a sitting president.

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        • Author by MickD (April 13, 2009 5:53 pm ET)
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          Hey Shoesie, thanks for proving the point of the headline. Now back to your bunker.

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        • Author by Brabantio (April 13, 2009 8:15 pm ET)
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          I'm really not sure why it's supposed to be relevant that the phrase came from David Horowitz.  He's right in this case, and good for him.  Little Green Footballs has been criticizing Beck for his nonsense, that's still worth noting as well.

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          • Author by Timmee (April 13, 2009 11:43 pm ET)
               

            http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=c437eea9-a9a9-490d-b5e4-cd952fdeee17

            What's funny is the comments...some people are freaked out that David is betraying the movement or something.

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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (April 14, 2009 8:37 am ET)
             

          In the words of a failed right-wing protester: GET A BRAIN, MORAN!

          This is a website that debunks PROFESSIONAL liars.  You sir, are a rank ameteur liar.  A White Belt.  A N00B.  Your persistanence is all that keeps from being no  more that a little troll.

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (April 14, 2009 11:51 am ET)
             

          but that paranoia turned out to be right for the most part.

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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (April 13, 2009 11:44 pm ET)
           

        So true.  AND, it is driving them nuts that they are not getting folks so worked up that they do something stupid.  Last I checked about 60%  of Americans think Obama is doing just fine. (It may be even higher since Samali rescue).  That fact has totally deranged the far right who seemed in control for so long.  I understand it is difficult to have your guy out of the leadership but that change in and of itself is good for our country.  But alas, this unGodly behavior of the far right is what drove so many of us out of the Republican party and I heard even here in Arizona, a large group of Republicans just dropped from the Republican Party and re-registered as Democrats and Independents.  My prediction is that if Republicans keep this up they will be out of power for decades if not forever,  since they are truly getting creepy.

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    • Author by jjamele2880 (April 13, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
         

      Check out Hannity today: "I think we should focus on the CAPTAIN who gave himself up as a HOSTAGE, I mean, he's a real HERO and a true AMERICAN and I just think this is UNBELIEVABLE, how can anyone even THINK about the White House and Obama now, its' the NAVY and the MARINES and this CAPTAIN who are the REAL AMERICAN HEROES blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...."

      Hannity, who calls Mark Levin "The Great One," telling me who the REAL heroes in all this are, and expecting me to take this as anything more than "Obama deserves more credit, we thought he'd fail but dammit he didn't so this is the best we can do." 

      Moron.

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (April 13, 2009 4:28 pm ET)
           

        Sorry "Obama deserves NO credit" I meant to type.  Just like Laura Ingraham earlier- the captain was rescued either IN SPITE of Obama or with NO IMPUT from him.  Of course, if the attack had failed and the hostage had been killed, guess who would have taken 100 percent of the blame?

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        • Author by snoopy (April 13, 2009 4:35 pm ET)
             

          Exactly. Obama gave the go-ahead so he's responsible either way.

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          • Author by fairliberal (April 13, 2009 4:43 pm ET)
               

            And a tip of the hat to Pres Obama for giving the go ahead.

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          • Author by princeofwheels (April 13, 2009 4:48 pm ET)
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            I thought Obama was the Commander-in-Chief!!! Or does Cheney still think he is the CIC?

            After reading a lot of the above blue stuff, I think that Obama is proven to be correct about his statement concerning people clinging to their guns and religion when times are tough. Repubs are buying more guns and are believing that America is a Christian country.

            I have recently been accepted into a Fantasy baseball league which is based on political leaning. The post there from the 8 out of 10 Repubs/Cons is almost exactly what is discussed above but they refuse to be linked with Limbaugh, Hannity or Fox. They make you think they they "thought of these things" on their own. I may need help in the future, it is difficult, but fun.

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            • Author by Parth (April 13, 2009 8:15 pm ET)
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              I've found that an RSS feed from here and Think Progress pretty well cover AM radio talking points daily. It's great to see people's faces when they say some crazy thing, and you reply, "Hey! I heard Rush say that exact same thing today!"

              For some reason, they become abashed, down to a one. It's almost as if they weren't proud of where they got their ideas.

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          • Author by Dem02020 (April 13, 2009 5:22 pm ET)
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            George W. Bush would have responded to the Somali pirate hostage situation, by citing falsified intelligence in the matter, and then selling the American People an $800 billion dollar invasion of Madagascar.

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            • Author by jjamele2880 (April 13, 2009 6:01 pm ET)
                 

              I think it would have been Sri Lanka, and we would be told that it's tea would pay for the war.

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            • Author by Col. Harlan Sanders (April 13, 2009 7:14 pm ET)
                 

              I was thinking Bush would have sent some marines to occupy a Carnival Cruise ship that Dick Cheney had a concession  stand on.

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      • Author by captfoster2 (April 14, 2009 1:37 am ET)
           

        "Check out Hannity today: "I think we should focus on the CAPTAIN who gave himself up as a HOSTAGE, I mean, he's a real HERO and a true AMERICAN and I just think this is UNBELIEVABLE, how can anyone even THINK about the White House and Obama now, its' the NAVY and the MARINES and this CAPTAIN who are the REAL AMERICAN HEROES"

        For real.... Sean Insanity said this on his show?

        Would it not be poetic justice that it turns out that this captain that gave himself up to save his crew and ship turns out to be an avid Obama supporter or at the very least... a flaming Commie pinko progressive liberal.... like myself?

        That would be god damn funny!

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        • Author by jjamele2880 (April 14, 2009 8:29 am ET)
             

          Of course, I agree that most of the credit should be given to the actual rescuers, and the Captain who is, in fact, a hero for giving himself up to free his crew.  I just think it's hysterical that when it's a Democrat in the White House, there's no room for any credit for the Administration that actually made the decision to go ahead with the rescue attempt.  Meanwhile, when Bush was President, every little victory anywhere in the world or at home was thanks to President Bush.  Every failure?  Somebody Else's Fault (Usually Clinton's, later Pelosi's, Reid's, Frank's, etc.)  Bush landed on an aircraft carrier wearing a flight suit to announce the end of combat operations in Iraq, as if he was flying back from the Front having just completed his last mission.  This from a guy who ducked the remaining YEAR of his service in the NATIONAL GUARD rather than take a required drug test. 

          Plus, right wing radio made the confrontation ALL ABOUT OBAMA-- they were perfectly willing and prepared to dump 100 percent of the blame on the President if the operation went poorly.  When it succeeds?  Not a word.  Disgusting.

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    • Author by snoopy (April 13, 2009 4:44 pm ET)
         

      Too bad for fox "President Pantywaist" took action on something that GWB pussied around on - action that made it possible for the navy seals to carry out the rescue mission (authorized to proceed by our esteemed commander in chief, BTW):

      Before yesterday's remarkable success story on the high seas off the coast of Somalia, the right-wing yammerers were calling Obama "President Pantywaist". One of these blogs had the following classic line:

      Navy SEALs are certainly no pantywaists, but unfortunately their commander-in-chief is.

      Fox News, as you can see in the video above, was littered with similar yammering.

      Now the best part: It turns out that "President Pantywaist" overturned George W. Bush's timid dithering on the issue last year in unleashing those Navy SEALs:

      President Barack Obama issued a standing order to use force against pirates holding an American captain hostage — including giving a Navy commander the authority to act if he believed the captain’s life was in danger, two senior defense officials said Sunday night.

      Navy snipers aboard the USS Bainbridge on Sunday shot and killed three of the pirates after the Bainbridge’s commander gave the order, when a pirate was spotted aboard the lifeboat pointing an AK-47 rifle at Capt. Richard Phillips, one defense official said.

      You see, back last November, George W. Bush punted on the matter:

      U.S. President George W. Bush has been briefed about increasing attacks by Somali pirates off east Africa, and the United States is consulting with other U.N. Security Council members on ways to combat the threat, the White House said on Wednesday.

      Calling it a "a very complicated issue," White House spokeswoman Dana Perino gave no hint of what, if any, action the United States might take following the hijacking earlier this week of a Saudi supertanker with a $100 million oil cargo.

      Obama signed the order giving the Navy the go-ahead to take these people out when they had the opportunity in February.

      But the mighty armchair generals of the right will never acknowledge this, of course.

      Thank C&L for that little factoid about who the real "President pantywaist" is.

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      • Author by wesley (April 13, 2009 4:52 pm ET)
           

        Good stuff, snoop...I like the action taken by the Navy...with the approval of Pres.Obama.

        Nothing wrong here with a little unilateral action...

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        • Author by solon (April 14, 2009 4:08 pm ET)
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          Exactly so. THIS was a perfect case for unilateral action. This wasnt Iraq. Millions of people were not going to pay the cost. Those killed were those who were involved IN the crime. Textbook action.

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      • Author by clams casino (April 13, 2009 4:54 pm ET)
           

        Excellent. Thanks for that post.

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      • Author by historygeek001 (April 13, 2009 5:09 pm ET)
           

        Nice post. 

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      • Author by jjamele2880 (April 13, 2009 5:10 pm ET)
           

        I actually tried to read a few blog posts on right wing sites, but I had to stop after about five or six versions of "Obama finally decided to stop talking about housing long enough to pay attention" and "Obama finally got out of the way and let the military do its job" and (my personal favorite ) "Obama should thank Bush and Cheney for the brilliant military they built" (I'm not kidding, someone actually posted that.)

        Today on Right-Wing radio all the hosts are pouring praise all over the freed hostage while doing their best to dismiss Obama's role or attack him for "claiming credit" and "moving the spotlight to himself."  This from people who praised Bush for landing on an aircraft carrier wearing a flight suit at the "conclusion" of military operations in Iraq (yeah, right.)  Go figure.

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        • Author by magnolialover (April 13, 2009 10:33 pm ET)
             

          And, tomorrow's big right wing story?

          Easing travel restrictions to Cuba. You know that somehow, this is going to get connected to Obama being a commie/socialist/fascist. You will all see. I mean, even though from last polling numbers looked at, something like 80 percent of Americans think that we should remove all restrictions from Cuba.

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          • Author by jjamele2880 (April 13, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
               

            Oh yeah- you can't travel to Cuba, but thousands of Americans visit CHINA every year with the blessing of the American government and tourist industry.  We can't buy from or sell to Cuba, but we have a multibillion-dollar trade deficit with China and have borrowed- what is it, a trillion dollars? - from that country.

            Our policy toward Cuba has always been dictated not by good sense or even national security, but by the political muscle of a small handful of Cuban malcontents in Southern Florida.  Well, their power is fading fast, and some sanity is beginning to return to our foreign policy.  Forty years late is better than never, I guess.

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          • Author by mari2jj2970 (April 13, 2009 11:54 pm ET)
               

            We can actually give Obama a more appropriate new name.  Hmmmmm, lets try Compassionate President who actually has family values and who supports the idea that families have a right to support each other financially, emotionally by mail contact and also with their physical presence.  My what a radical idea,eh?  Biblical in values, even.

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            • Author by captfoster2 (April 14, 2009 1:44 am ET)
                 

              Well that explaination certainly helps to begin to partially understand the vast right-wing projections that permeate that ideology!

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        • Author by mcnairbo6573 (April 14, 2009 10:47 am ET)
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          I guess Bush/Cheney then owe the Clinton administration a debt for the brilliant military they built allowing them to invade two countries simultaneously.  Mission Accomplished!  Kudos Bill Clinton!!!!  Not only did you have a booming economy that doubled during your tenure but you also managed that.  What a steady, sure footed leader we had in the 90's.

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 14, 2009 11:57 am ET)
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            I guess Bush/Cheney then owe the Clinton administration a debt for the brilliant military they built allowing them to invade two countries simultaneously.

            That is exactly what Patrick Leahy said to Dick Cheney that resulted in the famously brilliant (not) response from Cheney: "Go f*** yourself."

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      • Author by Tbone Slickens (April 14, 2009 8:55 am ET)
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        Nice try, but a swing and a miss. 

        President Bush passed on the hijacking of a SAUDI tanker.  Had it been an AMERICAN Flagged tanker, the boys from Camp Lemonier, Djibouti most assuredly would have been involved. 

        The Bush derangement syndrome on this forum never ceases to amaze...

        BTW...good on Barry O'Gump for getting this done.  My only beef would be what took him so long?

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        • Author by princeofwheels (April 14, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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          TEABAG SLICKENS, Thanks for the Excuse for Bush.

          To answer you last question: I think GREAT planning, GREAT Execution and the ability to THINK would be your answers. We could have used SHOCK and AWE but we allknow that became SHOCK and AHH CRAP. 

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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (April 14, 2009 9:41 am ET)
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            So what's your excuse for Barry not getting involved with the dozens of other hijackings? 

            Pirate attacks 2009

            He gets a pass for most of January but he acts just now?  Is that how you see it? 

            I'll try and spell it out for you...again.  It was an AMERICAN FLAGGED vessel.  Even Slick Willy probably would have done something.

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          • Author by Tbone Slickens (April 14, 2009 10:05 am ET)
               

            Breaking news...Portugese ship hijacked off Somalia.  Two others last night also.   

            We'll put your theory to the test now.  Will Barry O'Gump step in and resuce those saliors? 

            Pirate attacks in last 24 hrs

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            • Author by mcnairbo6573 (April 14, 2009 10:38 am ET)
                 

              What exactly did George W Gump do about it?  That's right!  Not a damn thing.

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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (April 13, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
         

      Conservatives may own a higher percentage of the microphones, however,

      it may be leading them into a trap.  All this bluster and hate, and the lies, may be an indicator of total desperation.  And while it may have appeal to the 25%ers, it may be backing conservatives into an even worsesituation.  The public's perception of conservatives right now is just above child molesters. 

      We need to just keep exposing Cons with the resources we have.  In addition, we should encourage Obama and top Democrats to speak out more often on the media.  They've been doing it some but not enough in my opinion.

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    • Author by terrapin53 (April 13, 2009 4:55 pm ET)
         

      The saddest part is there are people that believe everything these hate mongrs from right wing say.

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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (April 14, 2009 12:01 am ET)
           

        True, but remember, you would have needed to have checked your brains at the door in order to believe this far right wing garbage or else, you were like-minded to start with.  some though seem to get the insanity of what the far right is doing.  Michael Savage made some comment about the inappropriate, over the top, right wing thinking of late.  It was a big surprise to me but he was calling them out for their nasty comments on Obama.  surprise, surprise.

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    • Author by worrierking (April 13, 2009 5:11 pm ET)
         

      Will we be a better nation if we're constantly fed things to fear?

      Does anyone else remember when we we're encouraged to be brave? When we understood things like the greater good and understood what Lincoln meant when he talked about the better angels of our nature?

      America had better grow a pair and distance themselves from this list of certified right wing cowards.

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    • Author by avchavis (April 13, 2009 5:13 pm ET)
         

      I can't get mad at their name calling of President Obama because these rightwingnutcrazies don't know what they're talking about. First they called Obama a socialist, then a fascist and I think Newt Gingrich said he was leading our country into a dictatorship! It's just rightwing nuttyness! ROFTL! Bless their hearts the GOP has no direction and they're just looking more chaotic and crazy everyday.

      OT - The GOP court jester and violence promoter, Glenn Beck, is going on a comedy tour! LMAO! 

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    • Author by wesley (April 13, 2009 5:19 pm ET)
         

       -- violent, doomsday, and anti-intellectual rhetoric -- mmfa

      What a difference a day makes...or more to the fact...eight years.

      The more things change the more they stay the same. Here's a little something that says it quite well...


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      • Author by funnymanpants (April 13, 2009 5:28 pm ET)
           

        >>that says it quite well...

        You linked to a youtube video of a country singer. I'm not sure what you are trying to show.

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        • Author by wesley (April 13, 2009 5:39 pm ET)
             

          If the lyrics were to quick for you...try replay.

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          • Author by funnymanpants (April 13, 2009 5:43 pm ET)
               

            >>If the lyrics were to quick for you...try replay.

            Sorry, but the music was so awful I couldn't get past 30 seconds of it.

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      • Author by psp (April 13, 2009 8:47 pm ET)
           

        I missed the point you were trying to make too, unless the point was that Dwight Yoakam rules.  In that case, I concur. 

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    • Author by steeve (April 13, 2009 6:19 pm ET)
         

      Time to put a moratorium on "Obama derangement syndrome" and "Clinton derangement syndrome".  The republicans are simply picking up directly from 1998.  It's a perfectly smooth rhetorical line, interrupted only by the Years That Must Never Be Admitted To.

      Republicans have "Democrat derangement syndrome".  Or maybe "Raising taxes on the rich a little bit derangement syndrome".

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    • Author by coldteablues19577325 (April 13, 2009 7:48 pm ET)
         

      And how about all those poor sods who lost their heads because George wasn't willing to rescue them.

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    • Author by 1st Republic 14th Star (April 13, 2009 9:08 pm ET)
         

      In the Bush years, Democrats not only stayed away from the paranoia so prevalent among the right wing, on many issues they SUPPORTED BUSH!  And the thanks they got for supporting Bush in a show of bipartisan unity was to have Republicans campaign against them in 2002 and 2004 on the grounds that they were soft on terrorism or actually supportive of Osama bin Laden.  Bush accepted their support and loyalty in a time of crisis, and then stabbed them in the back for partisan political purposes.

      In contemporary politics, Republicans are interested only in political advantage and they want to be in charge simply to be in charge.  That's why when they're out of power they resort to conspiracy theories and refuse to act in a bipartisan fashion -- they want to WIN, no matter the cost.  Democrats try to govern responsibly, even when they're not in charge, which frequently costs them at the polls.

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      • Author by MickD (April 14, 2009 6:37 am ET)
           

        I wouldn't give that much credit to the Dems, politicians and all, but I will say they avoid the paranoia because they have a bigger tent, with more diversity. For the Repubs it is always stay on message, everyone, and therefore they lose the legislative races, the senate races and eventually the presidency, simply because they refuse (Karl Rove style) to have any flexibility on their message. It continues now and when Obama has success it will continue to cost them in elections.

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    • Author by ukobserver (April 13, 2009 9:28 pm ET)
         

      Fook me that's a long list!!!

      Obama's only been POTUS since Jan 20th!!!

      Soon these guys will be so shrill that only small dogs and dolphins will be able to hear them.

      Just to show how bad it's getting Alex Jones was on a late night UK radio show where he claimed that GLENN BECK was part of the disinformation campaign to hide the truth about the FEMA camps being set up!!!

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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 13, 2009 10:03 pm ET)
         

      There may be a silver lining here,this is just further evidence of how marginalized the FAR RIGHT WING NUTS are becoming and that would be a good thing.

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    • Author by alienofwar (April 14, 2009 1:06 am ET)
         

      With the volume of rhetoric out there right now and the Tea Party events coming up, I think were gonna see a huge mess of crazy things said and done. And hopefully many of us get out there with video cameras so that we can share it on the blogosphere and expose their craziness to the world.

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    • Author by eniobob2631 (April 14, 2009 8:40 am ET)
         

      I caught some of hannity last night and he was really losing it,no matter where he turned for his"president deserves no credit rant"he wasgetting shoot down,He turned to a promo by VanSustren to help him out,and her lead in was "there is a new sherriff,in town "meaning the snipers who took out the three pirates.

      He also tryed to bait former colts coach Tony Dungy into knocking his not accepting the position with its "faith based intiative"program.Dungy didn't take the bait and said his reason was due to the inconvience the travel would be,although he was appreciative of being asked to participate in the presidents program.

      Hannity looked like he wanted to cry.

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      • Author by princeofwheels (April 14, 2009 9:30 am ET)
           

        Colmes' departure is giving America more time to show how silly the Seanniethe SissyBoy has become. Yes, he has more solo airtime but he says the same things over and over and over. It gives people, not his avid sheep, an open glimpse of his chidish rants. Ratings may be high due to his regulars, but they will only shrink. Until the Cons realize that the younger American voters control this country, they will always be they party that must lurk behind the skirts of the Republicans.

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    • Author by rtdavis11200 (April 14, 2009 9:14 am ET)
         

      Anyone who watched HANNITY  last night talking to Bernard Goldberg about the hostage confrontation and the Presidents handling of the crisis would have to agree HANNITY despises Obama.

      Goldberg gave the President credit for the safe return of the captain.

      HANNITY said Obama had to give the order to fire on the pirates.

      Golberg who is no Obama lover told HANNITY  noone can force the Commander and Chief to do anything.

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    • Author by mcnairbo6573 (April 14, 2009 10:32 am ET)
         

      Great.  So Obama inherits 2 middle east wars, a second great depression and now our FBI has to take it's eye off the ball and watch out for more militia nuts like Tim McVey.  Why is it that they just can't lose with grace?  Why, mere weeks after a duly elected democrat takes the office and gets to work cleaning up the wreckage that George W Bush left behind do they lose it and become maniacal flipped out loons?

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      • Author by SMTDL (April 14, 2009 11:33 am ET)
           

        Exactly right !!!! How can this bias and hate be passed on as patriotism.Obama could capture BinLaden;wipe out Al-Qaeda,The Taliban&Hamas;disarm Iran/N.Korea then cure cancer and these people would find something to criticize. This started during the election when the writing was on the wall of a republican defeat.They threw everything at Obama and accused the media of bias to keep a negative focus on him ....Rev Wright but no Rev Hagee coverage...Bill Ayres but no mention of G.Gordon Liddy. It still continues with more negative coverage than is waranted.Really ..a whole week on the Bow ,hugging the queen (who apparently needed one 1st) ,French kisses,blah blah.

        The big problem is that a 'NEWS' organization and elected officials are pushing these protests with people implying (at least) a use of violence.Again just like during the election, the warnings of playingwith fire are ignored!!!This is dangerous and Republicans ,Fox News ,Conservative Talk Radio will be complicit if anything bad happens.I have heard nothing but denial and outrage  that the incident in Pittsburgh is at all related to their incendiary  rhetoric!!!

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        • Author by thejbomb65 (April 14, 2009 11:51 am ET)
             

          because they can, and because its their way or the highway

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          • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 14, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
               

            The GOP highway is full of self-inflicted IED potholes.

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 14, 2009 12:33 pm ET)
           

        MCNAIR, Grace and CONSERVITIVES do not mix at all.

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    • Author by ewl94232 (April 14, 2009 11:32 am ET)
         

      The Conservatives have no regard for the truth and very little contact with reality.  In addition, they are hate-filled, ignorant and incapable of presenting a coherent argument ... or is that the Liberals?  I've heard each side say the same things about the other.

      The modern Conservative movement bases its view of American politics on an interpretation of the Constuitution that sees it as an effort to guaranty that government would not have the power to interfere in the lives of individuals beyond a minimal few issues.  They believe that the efforts of government, particularly federal government, to help citizens through various programs, regulations and the setting of standards is a violation of the 10th Amendment and therefore a seizure of authority over areas Constitutionally forbidden to it.  They saw in Barak Obama, even before the current economic crisis, a person who favored more and bigger federal seizures of authority. 

      The tone of the initial article that started this discussion was trivial in its nature, but it reflects a significant fact.  The rhetoric on the Right is becoming more heated.  It is not always easy to see the forest when you're standing in the midst of it, but so is the rhetoric on the Left.  More ominously, both sides are displaying an increasing inability to grant the other credibility.  The quality of discourse is declining into negative stereotyping in which each side, more and more, sees the other as beyond reasoning with.

      Specifically, the Right is issuing a warning, they see America as turning away from the guaranty of individual rights established in the Constitution.  They see the Left as causing this in order to "change" America into a system inspired by the model of European-style Socialism.  One of the manifestations of European-style Socialism was the splinter-group of the Communist Party led by Benito Mussolini called, the "Fascists." (Another was the German National Socialist Worker's Party known as the "Nazis".)  They see in history connections and shared beliefs between the European Socialists and the American Progressive movement of the early 1900s.  They see an historical progression from the Progressives to the Liberals to Barak Obama and you.  They believe that you and he are "changing" America away from the system that established and protected Amercan's freedoms and prosperity and they're telling you that they have no intention of sitting quietly and watching you do that.  They are warning you to reverse your course or face war.

      You have a choice.  You can either work on exacerbating the divide or you can work on making an effort to understand what the other side is concerned about so that you can engage in intelligent debate about the issues each side advocates, not just simplistic characterization of those issues.  You can cleverly goad the opposition and gloat in your feelings of superiority or you can work on preventing the real disaster that is heading our way

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    • Author by thejbomb65 (April 14, 2009 11:52 am ET)
         

      funny how when W and Dick were in office taking us to the brink, they simply went along with things.

      now that someone who is popular and doing his job correctly they are going ballistic.

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