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April 20, 2009 8:24 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Following President Obama's trip to the Summit of the Americas, conservative media figures characterized Obama's actions at the summit as weakness, continuing the trend of portraying Democrats as weak on matters of national security and foreign policy.

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Following President Obama's recent trip to the Summit of the Americas, conservative media figures appearing on April 20 news shows characterized Obama's actions at the summit -- shaking hands and accepting a book from Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and listening to a speech by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega -- as weakness, continuing the trend of portraying Democrats as weak on matters of national security and foreign policy.

On April 17, Internet gossip Matt Drudge linked to a Reuters article with the headline "A Smile and a Shake for Chavez." The two-paragraph Reuters article reported that Obama and Chavez "shook hands on Friday at the Summit of the Americas in Trinidad."

On April 20, the conservative echo chamber reverberated with charges that Obama's actions betrayed weakness, including in some instances, media figures using explicitly gendered language to denounce the president's conduct.

Morning Joe

During the April 20 edition of Morning Joe, MSNBC political analyst Pat Buchanan repeatedly asserted that Obama's interaction with Chavez and Ortega signaled "weakness." Buchanan said that Obama "allowed himself to be disrespected" and twice compared Obama to a child being bullied, stating, "I think Barack Obama has come off as the kid on the schoolyard that can be pushed around because he's too sweet."

Host Joe Scarborough also said of Obama's reaction to Ortega's speech: "You don't sit there while the United States of America is savaged by a communist leader, Daniel Ortega, who has no moral high ground -- Ortega has no moral high ground to savage us -- and sit there and not get up and at least defend our country. That shows weakness. This isn't about pride. This isn't about our ego. This is about showing weakness on the international stage."

During one segment, co-host Mika Brzezinski commented to Buchanan and Scarborough: "[G]uys, my concern is all this criticism is just a little too macho."

Today

During the April 20 edition of NBC's Today, Meredith Vieira hosted Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich, who asserted that "the smiles and the handshakes" Obama extended to Latin American leaders are examples of Obama's "record" of "weakness" on foreign relations:

VIEIRA: But, Newt, you heard what the president said, that he does not believe that shaking the man's hand will endanger the strategic interests of the United States. So you disagree with that?

GINGRICH: No, first of all, I think stopping us from drilling for oil endangers our strategic interests, but I think symbolically we've had weakness in the last two weeks with North Korea. We have weakness with Iran. We have bowing to the Saudi king. We have weakness with Hamas. We have weakness with Cuba, and the Cubans have not produced a single political prisoner. And I think we have to recognize if the administration wants to look at facts, that the record is even worse than the smiles and the handshakes.

Gingrich added that Obama "ought to talk to Chavez in a cold and distant way, because Chavez openly, constantly, attacks the United States -- just as the Iranians are building a nuclear weapon every day, and smiling at them doesn't slow down the nuclear program a bit."

Fox & Friends

During the April 20 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy asked Gingrich: "Mr. Speaker, I want to talk to you real briefly about our president and Hugo Chavez. They did some handshaking and grinning down there, and, in fact, Mr. Chavez gave our president this book and sent it to number two on the Amazon list. What did you think about that exchange?" Gingrich responded, in part, that the president's bowing to the Saudi king and "embrac[ing]" of Chavez is "a very unhealthy strategy for us."

Gingrich continued: "We want America to be strong enough to ignore Chavez and, frankly, shake hands with the Saudi king. I think there's something fundamentally something wrong with weakness in America and then trying to placate dictators."

Co-host Brian Kilmeade then asked Gingrich, "What do you say to people who say that this is like Jimmy Carter -- this is very similar to what Carter did?" Gingrich replied, in part, that "this does look a lot like Jimmy Carter" and that "Carter tried weakness, and the world got tougher and tougher, because the predators, the aggressors, the anti-Americans, the dictators, when they sense weakness, they all start pushing ahead."

Also during the April 20 edition of Fox & Friends, Kilmeade introduced a segment by stating, "Meanwhile, President Obama is taking some heat for his warm reception to some leaders who are flat-out anti-American. So has he lost focus on what our real foreign threats are?" During the segment, Fox News analyst and New York Post columnist retired Col. Ralph Peters claimed that "Obama is already starting to make Jimmy Carter look like a victim of raging testosterone" and went on to say: "What he did by talking to Hugo Chavez and embracing him and fist-bumping and making lovey-dovey in the hotel -- God knows what went on behind closed doors."

America's Newsroom

During the April 20 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Megyn Kelly asserted: "Well, President Obama is raising some eyebrows with his chummy exchanges with Hugo Chavez at a recent Summit of the Americas. Is this just harmless diplomacy, or did the president look weak here?"

From the April 20 edition of MSNBC's Morning Joe:

BUCHANAN: Joe, I've never seen a president so disrespected at a summit and not make any kind of response whatsoever --

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah.

BUCHANAN: -- as Barack Obama was. He was like a kid being made sport of on the playground by Chavez; 50-minute lecture by that little Ortega in Nicaragua, who said you Americans are doing to poor Castro what was done at the Berlin Wall.

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SCARBOROUGH: How does he strengthen America when Daniel Ortega, a communist, sits in front of everybody in the Western Hemisphere, or at least in the Americas, and delivers a 55-minute tirade against the United States of America -- basically says we're an evil empire. And he sits there and smiles and says nothing to defend us when he gets up.

MARK HALPERIN (Time senior political analyst): Did you have the same concern when Reagan was dealing with Soviet leaders?

SCARBOROUGH: Well, Reagan always spoke truth to power with Soviet leaders. I will guarantee you this: I will guarantee you you will not find a time that a Soviet leader berated the United States of America for 55 minutes while President Reagan sat there smiling. And then when it was Reagan's turn, I will guarantee you he didn't get up and say nothing other than, oh, it's a good thing you didn't blame me for World War I.

BUCHANAN: You know, Joe --

SCARBOROUGH: Pat?

BUCHANAN: Khrushchev disrespected Eisenhower. They were screaming about the U2 at the Paris summit. They blew it up. Ike came on home to cheers from this country. Barack Obama allowed himself to be disrespected. Now, if that's the way he wants to do it personally, that's personal. But he's the president of the United States, and his country was savaged and smeared down there, and he grinned all the way through it.

SCARBOROUGH: Yeah, Mika, that's the bigger problem. We need to separate President Obama personally from the United States of America. And I salute the president -- this president -- for daring to open relations with other countries. I've said for some time we need to figure out a way to open up relations with Iran, with Syria, even Chavez. I've got no problems, but there's a way to do it.

You don't sit there while the United States of America is savaged by a communist leader, Daniel Ortega, who has no moral high ground -- Ortega has no moral high ground to savage us -- and sit there and not get up and at least defend our country. That shows weakness. This isn't about pride. This isn't about our ego.

OFF-CAMERA: Joe, who does it show weakness to?

SCARBOROUGH: This is about showing weakness on the international stage.

HALPERIN: Who does it show weakness to?

BRZEZINSKI: Well, we'll talk about that at the half-hour.

BUCHANAN: I think it shows weakness to the world.

SCARBOROUGH: It shows weakness to the world.

BUCHANAN: Here's a guy that can be pushed around.

BRZEZINSKI: Guys -- guys, my concern is all this criticism is just a little too macho. I mean -- and I want to ask you at the half-hour, Joe, when we do must-read op-eds, what you think he should have done. Because I'd like to hear your insight. I mean, maybe there's a better option.

JOHN HEILEMANN (New York Magazine contributing editor): Do we really think that Daniel Ortega in his 55-minute tirade gained a bunch of new enlistees to the communist cause that's marching across the world?

BRZEZINSKI: I don't know.

HEILEMANN: Doesn't seem that likely to me.

SCARBOROUGH: You know, we've gotta go to break, but -- and we'll talk about this --

BRZEZINSKI: Yeah.

SCARBOROUGH: -- later -- but the thing is, a president always sends a message to the world. There are -- I know this is hard to believe -- there are very evil people in the world who want to kill Americans, and they look for an opportunity at all times for weakness. When they find weakness, they exploit it. That's the danger. No, Daniel Ortega can't hurt us. But if the president's seen as weak, that can hurt you, me, New York City, everybody.

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BUCHANAN: Well, let me say this: I agree with a lot of what Obama and [Secretary of State] Hillary [Clinton] are doing in terms of policy. But I think he allowed himself to be disrespected. The perception was he was being made a mockery of down there. Chavez was up there putting that stupid anti-American book in his face. He gets lectured for 90 -- for 50 minutes. Then he goes over to [Bolivian President Evo] Morales and talks about how wonderful it is that he's an indigenous -- Morales is an ethno-nationalist. He believes the Spanish and the white people should be put down because they've run things.

What is he doing? What I wanted him to be, Joe, was be the president of the United States. Jack Kennedy at Vienna, that first summit, Khrushchev pushed him around, took the measure of him. Right out of there you went to the Berlin Wall, you went to that 58-megaton explosion --

SCARBOROUGH: Right.

BUCHANAN: -- you went to the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think Barack Obama has come off as the kid on the schoolyard that can be pushed around because he's too sweet.

BRZEZINSKI: No. No, no, no.

SCARBOROUGH: You need to be careful about the signals you send.

From the April 20 edition of NBC's Today:

VIEIRA: What do you take away from the president's visit to Latin America? What do you think his goals were? And in your estimation, was it a successful trip?

GINGRICH: Well, I think first of all, the importance of the Chavez smile and handshake is illustrated by your report just now, on the jump in the book sales from number 54,000 to number two. Everywhere in Latin America, enemies of America are going to use the picture of Chavez smiling and being with the president as proof that Chavez is now legitimate, that he's acceptable. He is a dictatorial figure; he is an anti-American figure.

But what I find distressing is that this administration is opposed to looking for oil offshore, but the president bows to the Saudi King; the president is friends with Venezuela, whose biggest impact on us is that they sell us a lot of oil. And I just think that there's a shallowness about how they analyze things. It does matter to the world if the United States tolerates a vicious anti-American propaganda campaign and then smiles and greets the person who has systematically been anti-American for his entire career.

VIEIRA: But, Newt, you heard what the president said, that he does not believe that shaking the man's hand will endanger the strategic interests of the United States. So you disagree with that?

GINGRICH: No, first of all, I think stopping us from drilling for oil endangers our strategic interests, but I think symbolically we've had weakness in the last two weeks with North Korea. We have weakness with Iran. We have bowing to the Saudi king. We have weakness with Hamas. We have weakness with Cuba, and the Cubans have not produced a single political prisoner. And I think we have to recognize if the administration wants to look at facts, that the record is even worse than the smiles and the handshakes.

VIEIRA: But do you think he should not be trying to mend relationships with other world leaders?

GINGRICH: How do you mend relationships with somebody who hates your country, who actively calls for the destruction of your country, and who wants to undermine you?

VIEIRA: Well, we certainly have mended relationships with countries that have hated us in the past. Russia comes to mind. China comes to mind.

GINGRICH: But we didn't rush over, smile, and greet Russian dictators. We understood who they were. Yeah, you can talk -- I'm not against him talking to Chavez. But I think he ought to talk to Chavez in a cold and distant way, because Chavez openly, constantly, attacks the United States -- just as the Iranians are building a nuclear weapon every day, and smiling at them doesn't slow down the nuclear program a bit.

VIEIRA: You have called the Obama administration the most radical left-wing administration in American history with a fantasy foreign policy that has no connection to reality. Do you believe that we are heading straight for a major foreign policy crisis?

GINGRICH: I think inevitably, sooner or later, we're going to have a big problem. And what I said is based on what I just said to you. The North Koreans fire a missile, nothing happens; the Iranians announce their 7,300th centrifuge to build nuclear weapons, nothing happens; Hamas fires another missile into Israel, nothing happens. Cuba releases zero prisoners, we make nice to Cuba.

There's no sign that Chavez has become any less anti-American, and I think we have to be honest about dangers in the world. I am for doing methodically and calmly, as Ronald Reagan did, the things that will work, but I'm not for deluding myself about whether or not words and smiles are a substitute for real strategies.

From the April 20 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

DOOCY: Mr. Speaker, I want to talk to you real briefly about our president and Hugo Chavez. They did some handshaking and grinning down there, and, in fact, Mr. Chavez gave our president this book and sent it to number two on the Amazon list. What did you think about that exchange?

GINGRICH: Well, first of all -- first of all, people should realize it's very important what a president of the United States does. That book was at number 54,000. It's a viciously anti-American diatribe. Now it's at number two. Chavez's people will use that smiling picture all over Latin America to say Chavez's anti-Americanism is acceptable.

The fact is this president is opposed to looking for oil in America but bows to the Saudi king, embraces the Venezuelan dictator -- I think that's a very unhealthy strategy for us. We want America to be strong enough to ignore Chavez and, frankly, shake hands with the Saudi king. I think there's something fundamentally something wrong with weakness in America and then trying to placate dictators.

KILMEADE: What do you say to people who say that this is like Jimmy Carter -- this is very similar to what Carter did?

GINGRICH: Well, you know, when we did our movie, Ronald Reagan: Rendezvous with Destiny, we have a section on Carter and, frankly, this does look a lot like Jimmy Carter. Carter tried weakness, and the world got tougher and tougher, because the predators, the aggressors, the anti-Americans, the dictators, when they sense weakness, they all start pushing ahead. And the reports out of Pakistan are very alarming about the degree to which the Islamists are gaining ground and the people who favor a modern civilization are losing ground in that very important country.

DOOCY: If only I could have gotten Hugo Chavez to give the president Tales from the Dad Side.

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KILMEADE: Meanwhile, President Obama is taking some heat for his warm reception to some leaders who are flat-out anti-American. So has he lost focus on what our real foreign threats are? Joining us right now Colonel Ralph Peters, Fox News strategic analyst and columnist -- you see a lot of his columns in the New York Post. Colonel, first off, talking with Chavez: good move, bad move -- certainly historic, correct?

PETERS: My president went to Trinidad, and all I got was this lousy Che Guevara T-shirt.

KILMEADE: And a book.

PETERS: I mean, good God -- yeah. I mean, Obama is already starting to make Jimmy Carter look like a victim of raging testosterone. Now, overall, it's not a problem to talk with opponents. You learn things about them -- fine. But it can't be one-sided. Obama said one right thing down south. He said our relations with Latin America need to be based on mutual respect. Well, what part of mutual doesn't he understand?

For instance, you know, he cozied up to every dictator in sight; ignored our friends and allies. But just take Hugo Chavez. Everybody's saying, well, it's great, he talked to Chavez, there'll be a new era. What he did by talking to Hugo Chavez and embracing him and fist-bumping and making lovey-dovey in the hotel -- God knows what went on behind closed doors.

What he did was undercut the forces of democracy in Venezuela. Hugo Chavez has been punishing elected officials that oppose him, driving them into hiding, beating up opponents, putting them in prison, subverting the constitution -- and by making nice with Chavez, he has -- Obama has empowered the worst guy on the continent.

From the April 20 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

KELLY: Well, President Obama is raising some eyebrows with his chummy exchanges with Hugo Chavez at a recent Summit of the Americas. Is this just harmless diplomacy, or did the president look weak here?

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    • Author by snoopy (April 20, 2009 8:41 pm ET)
         
      Gee, no shock there. I'm just wondering where are the rightwingers who should be up in arms because someone is talking down the president's international policies?
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      • Author by princeofwheels (April 20, 2009 8:55 pm ET)
           

        Finally, some sanity when it comes to International Relations. For the Cons who visit here, look up the "Inter" part of International.

        Under Republicon rule, it suffered. The country suffered. The country voted. Now you suffer. Elections come around quickly. Keep up the Con way and 65 blue seats will fill the Senate. FNC Conservatism is dead. Except for the 25% who continue to believe that America should foollow them.

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        • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 20, 2009 11:31 pm ET)
             

          PRINCE, Amen to that.

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (April 21, 2009 2:58 am ET)
             

          Don't you love all these never-served-in-the-military bully boys always telling us about how tough the world is?

          And since when is Daniel Ortega still a communist...? That's a joke. He's Mr. establishment down there. ...he never really was, in fact.

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        • Author by bittermarv (April 21, 2009 6:37 pm ET)
             

          Now you suffer.

          Not sure how they'll suffer.  They'll get a tax cut and possibly a decent, affordable health care system.

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        • Author by jstephens005 (April 21, 2009 10:40 pm ET)
             

          Prince,

          You have absolutely no substance to your comment.  Let's focus on some facts.

          1.  The US is THE leader of the world.  As such, it is our responsibility to not give credit to dictators.  Mock-mood I'm-a-nut-job made a fool of Obama during the racism summit.  Chavez is a fascist dictator.  He called the president of the US a devil.  Is it OK because it was not Obama?  No.  Intellectual honesty is required, but no dictator should be greeted as "friend" after spewing such hateful rhetoric.  Unless they work at MSNBC.  :)

          2.  How did our country suffer under Republican rule?  Because the liberal media says so?  Because the French didn't like our actions?  What about the UK?  What about Australia?  How about the fact that our country has been safe for the past 8 years?  Isn't that the key?

          3.  The US does not owe anyone an apology.  Period.  We were attacked on 9/11.  We reacted.  Iraq broke multiple UN sanctions.  We reacted.  Whenever there is trouble anywhere in the world...the US is the LEADER.  Every other nation looks to us for help, leadership, and resources.  Name one major incident where another country has led.

          4.  Conservatism is not dead.  First off, does anyone, ANYONE, on this thread even know what conservatism is?  This country was founded on conservative values: small government (not socialism), strong military, individual rights, and a strong moral and religious foundation.  Read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.  What part of those values are dead?

          If you think you, or any other on this thread, can have an honest, intellectual debate...I'm listening.

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          • Author by Cartoon Messiah (April 22, 2009 9:12 am ET)
               

            You are an absolute know-nothing (and probably proud of it).

            1. The US is not much of a world leader anymore, thanks to your boy Bush. The US has coddled dictators as a matter of policy: Franco, The Greek Fascists post WWII, Batista in Cuba (the reason Castro rules the country now), Pinochet, Sadaam Hussein (remember that pic of Rummy?), etc., etc. Chavez, unlike Bush 2000, was duly elected by an overwhelming majority - not a dictator by any stretch of the definition. It is you who have no intellectual honesty, because intellect is required to have such.

            2. Uhhh, look at any figures on the US economy. Two unwinnable wars (one entered into illegally), Katrina, torture... What about? What about? I thought the US was the world leader.

            3. And Obama doesn't owe you an apology because...you lost. Loser! It's supposed to taste like a sh** taco!

            4. Do you know what conservatism means? Ever read Edmund Burke? The Declaration of Independence is a declaration - nothing more.

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    • Author by Timmee (April 20, 2009 8:56 pm ET)
         

      I was watching Morning Joe this morning at 3:30am trying to finish up a long night of work. The feigned outrage these guys muster is incredible. Joe was just soooo upset. It's like these jerkoffs think the only way to ensure that they aren't just outright dismissed...is to make their reaction soooo extreme and tied to their love of America..that people will think there must be something to it...after all why would an adult pretend to be upset when he isn't?

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      • Author by snoopy (April 20, 2009 9:06 pm ET)
           

        I feel sorry for their wives. All that anger sex they have to put up with as they pretend. Trying to stay "engaged" as their hubbies thrust while saying "that damned N....."

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        • Author by kesmarn47074 (April 21, 2009 10:14 am ET)
             

          Not to worry about the wives. I wouldn't be surprised if impotent ranting on Fox (or Clear Channel) is followed by more of the same on the home front.

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    • Author by Arundel (April 20, 2009 9:05 pm ET)
         

      I love how one of them invoked "Jimmy Carter" twice to describe their outrage at Obama for shaking hands with Chavez, who hurt our feelings with those cwitical words, boo-hoo. 

      Jimmy Carter got Egypt and Israel to shake hands 30-odd years ago in a peace that has lasted to this day.  An enormous accomplishment, a triumph of peace-making. It seems all these lazy pundits are spoiling for a fistfight or something,  an unbelievably petty schoolyard mentality.  

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 21, 2009 12:03 pm ET)
           

        ARUNDEL, All these "super paitriotic" CONSERVATIVES believe in is military force is first, second,  third , fourth, and fifth and maybe diplomacy in  sixth place

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    • Author by mk3872 (April 20, 2009 9:06 pm ET)
         

      Handshakes? Bows? Teleprompters?????

      Does the American media engage in any sense of context or depth anymore at all??

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      • Author by loonz (April 20, 2009 11:22 pm ET)
           

        The far right is under the impression the public cares about these trivial things.  They're going to keep on losing elections if they don't start focusing on things that affect the lives of ordinary Americans.

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        • Author by BISHAMON (April 21, 2009 10:22 am ET)
             

          BTW, can you imagine the reaction -- on all of the cable networks, including CNN and MSNBC -- if a Republican president had given the shoot-to-kill order that freed an American hostage from his pirate captors? They would have gone wall-to-wall, non-stop. The coverage of Obama's success, on the other hand? Rather muted, I thought. 

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          • Author by achrispage6992 (April 21, 2009 11:13 am ET)
               

            That's not even the best part. People like Doody, Newt, and Drudge were eerily quiet when Bush was walking around with the Saudi's holding their hands. Someone needs to let Newt know that there are over 60 million acres of land available right now for drilling.

            You would think the Republicans would recognize that the old strategy of taking 30 second sound bytes and video to convince the American people of nefarious actions no longer works. Instead they cling to this strategy. Rest assured that they are not convincing anyone to come to their way of thinking. All they are doing is having their own little circle jerks of agreement. Newt is running for President right now and is making himself look very foolish, especially if this new type of foreign policy makes progress for us. Time will tell.

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            • Author by bittermarv (April 21, 2009 6:39 pm ET)
                 

              You would think the Republicans would recognize that the old strategy of taking 30 second sound bytes and video to convince the American people of nefarious actions no longer works.

              I think you overestimate our collective media savvy, sadly.

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    • Author by my4cents (April 20, 2009 9:36 pm ET)
         

      last part of the post. "did the president look weak here?"

      Now the President has to look like Rambo too? When did Reagan do that? Or Pres. Bush 1?

      Next thing we know, Fox News will be asking the nation 'did the President look American here?'

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      • Author by princeofwheels (April 20, 2009 9:49 pm ET)
           

        How "American" do Hannity or Rush look? TheSissyBoyIsHisName.

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        • Author by BISHAMON (April 21, 2009 10:19 am ET)
             

          Not much. Your average, everyday American sees right throught these pretenders, who are so over, even if they do not yet know it.

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      • Author by bittermarv (April 21, 2009 6:40 pm ET)
           

        Weak?  I'd love to see Gingrich try to take a charge as Obama goes to the hoop.  Gingrich, if he could even keep up with Obama, would be sobbing home to wife #3.

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    • Author by princeofwheels (April 20, 2009 10:08 pm ET)
         
      It is about time(8 years) that we have a President that will face our enemies instead of hiding behind the pants of the military. Now, Cheney and the Bush apologists are still talking about our country being less safe since Prez Obama took over. But nowhere do they mention that thier world started on 9/12/01. What about 9/10/01 how safe were we under Bush/Cheney? I'll bet no one can answer that because they DIDN'T know. They thought that by being cowboys that everyone feared us. How wrong they were. No credibility for them. None.Never. They slept with thier guns under thier pillows hoping someone would break into the house. They broke in and thier guns were useless. Obama is way too smart for FNC Haters. And they know it.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 21, 2009 1:05 pm ET)
           

        Prince, 9/11 was the Big Bang that brought the current neocon universe into existence. There was nothing before it, and now they don't even want people to remember its first seven years.

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (April 20, 2009 10:31 pm ET)
         

      There is nothing weaker than bravado and bluster.

      There is nothing weaker than the sore loser GOP.

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 20, 2009 11:34 pm ET)
           

        It's only been 2+monthsand the RIGHTIES are coming apart at the seams. I wonder what wil become of them after  a year passes?

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        • Author by carlileb5935 (April 21, 2009 2:53 am ET)
             

          It's not just righties-- look at CNN.

          Every Monday has Wolf Blitzer reviewing all the FOX weekend talking points.

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    • Author by wolf kotenberg (April 20, 2009 11:34 pm ET)
         
      They would get fired if they deviate from the story line. An no place to work in that field elsewhere.
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    • Author by eastcoast (April 21, 2009 1:02 am ET)
         
      This is my first post at MMFA but ive been coming to this blog for about a month. I enjoy reading the intelligent comments posted by my fellow libs. (Snoopy). I think rightwingnuts know that their defeated on every front. They are grasping at anything right now. They know the only ones that believe the crap they spew is their base. All 28% of them. Their a freakin joke.
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    • Author by muramos (April 21, 2009 1:30 am ET)
         
      We need to remind these narrow-minded tea baggers Chavez has always hated the Bush regime, and he has never said he hates the USA or Americans. Amazing how these Christians hate it when you shake hands. A hand shake is better than threats and the violent destruction of humanity.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (April 21, 2009 2:13 am ET)
         

      Dear President Obama,

      I realize that you are not a liberal, you are a centrist in many respects and do lean middle left and middle right on several varying issues, but I am writing this as an open letter on the hopes that maybe, just maybe, someone within your immediate staff might get wind of this letter from me, a humble citizen, to you, the president of these Unites States.

      No doubt you have heard this before, how many times, i dare not guess, but I'm presuming that you have heard that perhaps the right-wing conservative corporate owned media is going to lie, distort, and make up everything about you and your policies. Just as they did to varying degrees of effect against President Bill Clinton.

      Where Pres. Clinton went wrong and where you can be correct, is that since it is obvious that the right-wing is going to attack you no matter what you do or say, unless it is exactly how George Bush did things, which even then, they (the right-wing attack machine) occasionally found a reason here and there to jump on Bush's butt.

      Perhaps you never had any intention of leading as a lefty, progressive, or a liberal (as FDR did for the most part), with that in mind I think you should consider how that 'machine' worked overtime to destroy Bill Clinton, even though he jumped through fire to try and make them happy (NAFTA, WTO), much as your doing today,they still went after him with a venom that was as nasty as it was disgusting.

      I would ask you, almost demand that you to start leading like a progressive liberal and give the right-wing something to really hate you for. because no matter what you do, it will make no difference, short of becoming a mirror image of Reagan or Bush overnight, the right-wing is going to charge after you, relentlessly.

      So why not give Fox News and Rush Limbaugh types a New Deal full of reasons to hate you, because, sadly, they do. There just is no appeasing the right-wing, so why bother trying anymore? You have done a commendable job in holding your hand out but they keep swinging the knife in your direction. At this point, why not?

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      • Author by nerzog (April 21, 2009 8:56 am ET)
           

        Well said, Cap.  They will seek to destroy Obama no matter what he does or says.

        Obama showed some dignity at the summit and refused to get down in the mud with a handful of tinpot dictators.... and that's a bad thing?

        Numbnuts Bush showed us the "Cowboy Way".  8 years of that is enough, thank you.

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      • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (April 21, 2009 12:15 pm ET)
           

        captfoster  well thought out and well said and sooo true.

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    • Author by susangee (April 21, 2009 5:52 am ET)
         

      Keep your friends close and your enemies closer ~ Sun-Tzu

      (and Michael Corleone!)

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    • Author by congero6189599 (April 21, 2009 6:03 am ET)
         

      Morning joe and Joe Scarborugh is what's wrong with cable t.v. news alot of yelling and conservatives but little information!  Pat Buchannan represents that old hawkish wing of the conservative movement that actually beleives someone could win a nuclear war.  Acceptable losses kind of thing. He also has said that we fought on the wrong side in WWll! 

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    • Author by perry logan (April 21, 2009 8:09 am ET)
         

      There's a flaccidness to the right's accusations against Obama--like they're just going through the motions.

      Compare these comments with the incontinent viciousness of their attacks on Bill Clinton.  You could make up the most scrofulous rumor about Bill Clinton (or his family) on Sunday, and see it in the headlines on Monday.  Those were the days...

      The right also seem unaware that their techniques always backfire.  Clinton was tied with FDR as most popular President of the 20th Century, and Obama is doing just fine in the polls.  Keep it up, guys!

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    • Author by mattcable250650 (April 21, 2009 8:57 am ET)
         

      I'm pleased to report that my local paper used the better McClatchey version that didn't ask the silly question "Why is our President conducting diplomacy with a foreign head of state?"

      I did, however, give them a hard time for featuring Newt Gingrich in a side box. What can we say? Small steps!

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    • Author by mauman (April 21, 2009 10:40 am ET)
         

      Before these people coment on Eduardo Galeano's book, they should read it. It's not just about the United States. It begins with the Spanish conquest: Pizarro in Peru and Cortes in Mexico.

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      • Author by captfoster2 (April 21, 2009 12:49 pm ET)
           

        "Before these people coment on Eduardo Galeano's book, they should read it. It's not just about the United States. It begins with the Spanish conquest: Pizarro in Peru and Cortes in Mexico."

        The problem with this post.... is that you are assuming these people have any journalistic integrity to begin with! However correct you are in pointing out the obvious!

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    • Author by ewl94232 (April 21, 2009 12:30 pm ET)
         

      Try imagining how you'd feel if Barak was acting so chummy with Rush Limbaugh ... and listening in silence to a lecturing by Sean Hannity ... would this be the response you'd want to see?

      The President looked pathetically weak, like a guy that can be pushed around and manipulated.  But that's what he is.  He's out of his league.  He is so ignorant when it comes to international relations that he gives away half his potential leverage before he gets his foolish chance to sit-down with our enemies without pre-conditions.

      But you all go ahead and find fault with the Conservatives for criticising this performance.  The reference to Jimmy Carter was interesting because he was by far the worst President our nation has been subjected to.  Barak Obama is on track to easily exceed that record.  But you just ignore the signs and discredit every criticism.  Don't learn from any different perspectives.  Silence them if you can but, by all means, ridicule them at every opportunity.

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      • Author by Jurgan (April 21, 2009 3:55 pm ET)
           

        "Try imagining how you'd feel if Barak was acting so chummy with Rush Limbaugh ... and listening in silence to a lecturing by Sean Hannity ... would this be the response you'd want to see?"

        If Rush or Sean seemed interested in a genuine, substantive debate, then yes, I'd have no problem with Obama listening respectfully to them (at the present time, those two are more interested in hysterical rantings than serious discussion, so I'm not sure if anything good could come of it).  You see, unlike many, I think it's possible to listen to people with different opinions and still hold on to one's own beliefs.  I do not believe that treating Chavez with respect means suddenly the U.S. will embrace communism overnight.  As for your false analogy about conservative commentators: They're not elected leaders, so they're not owed the same respect, and yet Obama has given it to them.  Remember his interview with O'Reilly, or his dinner with George Will and other conservative columnists?  I had no problem with any of that (well, maybe O'Reilly because of the ridiculousness of Fox News, but it probably was for the best).

        "But you all go ahead and find fault with the Conservatives for criticising this performance.  The reference to Jimmy Carter was interesting because he was by far the worst President our nation has been subjected to.  Barak Obama is on track to easily exceed that record.  But you just ignore the signs and discredit every criticism.  Don't learn from any different perspectives.  Silence them if you can but, by all means, ridicule them at every opportunity."

        Okay, time out.  You're jumping on us for supposedly ignoring the criticism of conservatives.  Yet you desperately want the president of the United States to ignore the criticisms of foreign countries.  Hey, you introduced the analogy in the first paragraph- can you blame me for remembering it by the third?

        P.S.  The Carter-hate is probably a mistake- currently the American people have a much better opinion of him than of Bush.  I try not to throw around accusations of being the "worst ever-" they're always biased towards the present- but I doubt the Bush reputation will be greatly rehabilitated in the future.

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    • Author by fmbanker87 (April 21, 2009 1:39 pm ET)
         
      that is so silly. Bush was holding his hand because he was an old and frail man. He was helping him negotiate an uneven path, just as I helped a woman walk in downtown san antonio last night at fiesta, as she was having trouble with the curbs as we walked to our car.
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      • Author by captfoster2 (April 21, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
           

        If you are going to use "because he was an old and frail man" and "helping him negotiate an uneven path" as some kind of defense to explain away Bush holding hands with the Saudi King... or kissing the king on the cheek or that the Bush crime family has been in bed with the inhuman torturous Saudi royal family for many years...

        Then you my friend need to stop bothering coming here wasting yours and our time to dispute a given piece of evidence that is beyond well documented!

        Your attempt at explaination is as childish as it is pathetic!

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      • Author by bittermarv (April 21, 2009 6:45 pm ET)
           

        Um, it's actually customary for men to hold hands there.  Bush was following custom.  Regardless, you're willing to make excuses for that, but happy to pounce on Obama?  Don't look now, but your hypocrasy is showing.

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    • Author by TruthandConsequences (April 21, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
         
      Where were all these a-holes when Bush acted buddy-buddy with Vladimir Putin and pronounced him a great guy because he could "look into his heart"? What Bush did was far worse than a handshake from Obama that does not connote anything about U.S. policy toward Venezuela. Bush's attitude strengthened Putin's power -- and look at what has happened in Russia since.
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    • Author by janeyre (April 21, 2009 7:28 pm ET)
         
      Weakness if what an arrogant, dolt shown... Obama is a smart President. He doesn't need to behave like Bush and Company... The Republicans are one crying bunch of losers...
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    • Author by TeabagsMcGee (April 21, 2009 8:33 pm ET)
         

      I DIDN'T KNOW INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TREATED JUST LIKE MIDDLE SCHOOL

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    • Author by roninkannushi1711 (April 21, 2009 10:29 pm ET)
         

      Hey,

      If you are going to be leaning, keep it to the photo-ops!  Thinkers in the 21st Century draw my interest.   Objectivity!        People said; we are in the global economy, we are wired, the world has gotten smaller, etc...  Other nations are reaching out, shaking hands, and you are in fear?  Grey area is about lies and compromise.  Can we move on to now?  We have a platinum opportunity, to be.

      "The hardest part of hope is reality: the easiest part of will is history.

                                                                        -Ronin Kannushi

      This is it!  Why kid ourselves?  Everyone is guilty, pay the price of progress.  If greed and power stop you, who to blame?    Get in line, take a number, and have a seat!  You are in the crowd.  To lead, one can not follow.

      Pull no punches, and you will win!

      Thanks.

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    • Author by welterwill998306 (April 21, 2009 11:21 pm ET)
         
      So let me get this right Obama shakes Chavez's hand listens to some guy rant about what america has done to there country"which was mostly true" is BAD and Bush walking hand in hand then kissing a suadi king, ignoring advice to put focus on al-qaeda from Bill clinton the CIA and other high up politicians and security staff and let 9/11 happen, and appointing a politician in the middle east that allowed safe havens for al-qaeda is GOOD. THESE FOX ANCHORS HAVE A SELECTIVE MEMORY AND A CROOKED AGENDA THAT TRIES TO WEAKEN AMERICA FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF PROMOTING RIGHT-WING EXTREMISM. point being Fox news is un-american and should be shut down or at least silenced before they fall into this deep whole they've dug.
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    • Author by secondgate (April 22, 2009 12:11 am ET)
         

      Gosh.

      When I tell my little cousin that respect can get you far in life, I didn't realize I was teaching him weakness.

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    • Author by mjh (April 22, 2009 1:40 pm ET)
         

      "The President looked pathetically weak, like a guy that can be pushed around and manipulated.  But that's what he is.  He's out of his league.  He is so ignorant when it comes to international relations that he gives away half his potential leverage before he gets his foolish chance to sit-down with our enemies without pre-conditions." - ewl

      And this comes from - what?  Your vast experience in international relations?

      Maybe you'd be happier of Obama gave an unasked for neck rub to the German Chancellor.

      Or greeted the Italian PM in Spanish.

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