FNC's Napolitano peddles paranoia about "swine flu," Obama's health care plan
SUMMARY: Andrew Napolitano baselessly suggested President Obama was moving forward on health care now to take advantage of "fears of an epidemic and a pandemic" concerning the H1N1 virus, and falsely suggested that President Obama's health care proposal is similar to the Canadian and British systems -- models Obama has explicitly rejected.
On the April 28 edition of Fox News Radio's Brian & The Judge, co-host Andrew Napolitano baselessly suggested President Obama was moving forward on health care now to take advantage of "fears of an epidemic and a pandemic" concerning the influenza A virus subtype H1N1, commonly referred to as "swine flu." Napolitano stated: "Do you think that it's a coincidence that the government would be enacting this takeover of health care in the same week that we have fears of an epidemic and a pandemic about swine flu. Remember how fear -- remember how the government uses fear to get people to give up their freedom." During the same segment, Napolitano falsely suggested that "what may be coming" under President Obama's proposed health care plan is similar to the systems used in Canada and the United Kingdom -- systems Obama has explicitly rejected as models for his own policies.
While discussing congressional Democrats' reported decision to use the budget reconciliation process to advance health care reform, Napolitano stated: "You want a situation like we have in Canada, where you have to wait 16 months to have nonelective surgery? Do you want a situation like they have in Great Britain, where only the rich can go to private clinics and everybody else from the upper-middle class -- from the upper-middle class on down has bad teeth and poor health and has to get the permission of a bureaucrat before they can see a doctor? That is what may be coming without a meaningful debate, without a meaningful alternative, without input from you." But Obama has explicitly rejected adopting the British and Canadian models, and the public health insurance option supported by the White House is fundamentally different than the health care systems provided in Canada and the United Kingdom. According to the Health Care agenda detailed on the White House website, the administration has proposed to "[e]stablish a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage" [emphasis added]. Indeed, when asked during a March 26 online town hall discussion, "Why can we not have a universal health care system, like many European countries, where people are treated based on needs rather than financial resources," Obama replied that instead of adopting a "single-payer system" like the United Kingdom and Canada have, "what I think we should do is to build on the system that we have and fill some of these gaps."
As Media Matters for America has documented, several conservative commentators have baselessly assigned a political motivation to the Obama administration's handling of the H1N1 flu outbreak. Moreover, several media figures and outlets have falsely suggested Obama supports creating a health care system "like the European countries," despite his explicit rejection of those systems.
From the April 28 edition of Fox News Radio's Brian & The Judge:
BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): And the word is in the latest budget negotiations, he's going to get his health care. Without a debate, he's going to have the financing for putting together his health care program.
NAPOLITANO: How can that be?
KILMEADE: That's unfath -- I don't even know what the policies are.
NAPOLITANO: Listen, when Bill Clinton tried "Hillary-care" -- for all of its socialist tendencies, for all of the money that was spent, for all of the attempted secrecy of the meetings at the White House -- at least there was a public debate on it. And it became apparent to President Clinton that the Congress wasn't going to go for it; the bill never even got to the floor of either house of Congress.
But in the case of President Obama, the budget allocates 645 billion for health care. They are now going to authorize him to spend that however he wants. There will be no material significant debate, Mr. and Mrs. America, about whether or not you want central planning for your health care to come out of Washington, D.C. You want a situation like we have in Canada, where you have to wait 16 months to have nonelective surgery? Do you want a situation like they have in Great Britain, where only the rich can go to private clinics and everybody else from the upper-middle class -- from the upper-middle class on down has bad teeth and poor health and has to get the permission of a bureaucrat before they can see a doctor?
That is what may be coming without a meaningful debate, without a meaningful alternative, without input from you, because the president and his colleagues have decided they won the election and this is what the election means: centralized planning of the economy and centralized planning of health care. I don't want it.
KILMEADE: It's coming, and it's got to be addressed and debated. I don't think the current system is working. In the long term, I do think we need to look at it, analyze it, but it's going to take deep thought, and you've got to get politics out of it. And he's saying politics is in it, it's my plan, and I'm going to go use reconciliation and use my Democratic majority to do it. And that's 51, which he might struggle to get because a lot of people on the Democratic side say, listen, I'm not sure that there is a party line here.
NAPOLITANO: Do you think that it's a coincidence that the government would be enacting this takeover of health care in the same week that we have fears of an epidemic --
KILMEADE: Interesting.
NAPOLITANO: -- and a pandemic about swine flu? Remember how fear -- remember how the government uses fear to get people to give up their freedom.
OBAMA [audio clip]: This is obviously a cause for concern and requires a heightened state of alert. But it's not a cause for alarm.
NAPOLITANO: Cause for concern, heightened state of alert, but not alarm. That's the president talking about the outbreak of swine flu. You already have members of Congress saying don't let anybody in from Mexico. Guess what? It was a bunch of kids from Queens, New York, who innocently visited Mexico who brought the flu back with them. It's not Mexicans coming over the border in massive numbers with swine flu.















Napolitano made the ridiculous "speculation" that Obama might be taking advantage of fear to move the U.S. into a health care model that he's not supported...then plays a clip of Obama saying that we should be concerned but NOT alarmed. Kind of undercuts his remarks...but he probably isn't aware of that.
Meanwhile, right-wing nut Michele Bachman says its strange that these flu epidemics occur under "democrat" presidents....like Jimmy Carter and Obama. Perhaps she is just lying, but perhaps she really doesn't know that the swine flu epidemic occurred under Gerald Ford's administration. I remember very well the swine flu vaccine fiasco.
I can't think of anyone more dumb than Michele Bachman. God what an Idiot.
Here's a good blog that highlights her pronouncements: http://dumpbachmann.blogspot.com/
I need a drink after reading the ramblings of this delusional woman. What the hell was the point she was trying to make about gays in the crosswalk, non-gays in cars or was it a veteran, and protection for pedophiles but not 85 year old grandmothers?
Or was it a straight person in the crosswalk or grandmothers in cars.
My God, I never thought I'd be saying this but she kind of makes me miss Rick Santorum.
Somebody should check inside Michelle Bachman's purse. I bet they'll find a crack pipe. :-)
Or, she might share one with her friends ;-)
Wookie, sorry for using a reply to your post, I just can't be bothered to format an individual post.
Anyway
NAPOLITANO: -- and a pandemic about swine flu? Remember how fear -- remember how the government uses fear to get people to give up their freedom.
Do I ever...
"That is what may be coming without a meaningful debate, without a meaningful alternative, without input from you, because the president and his colleagues have decided they won the election and this is what the election means: centralized planning of the economy and centralized planning of health care. I don't want it."
Hey Judge, I think I speak for all the uninsured and underinsured when I say...
**** YOU.
We waited 6 years for the right wing to come up with a "meaningful alternative" and THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
We waited even longer for the free market to work its magic and bring affordable health care to everyone and IT NEVER HAPPENED.
What really happened is more people lost coverage, costs skyrocketed for those fortunate enough to still have coverage, and a select few people have gotten filthy stinking rich because of it.
"I find it interesting that it was back in the 1970s that the swine flu broke out then under another Democrat president Jimmy Carter" - Crazy Michele Bachmann
I find it interesting that the first case of swine flu in Minnesota occurred in Bachmann's district.
Even if Crazy Michele wasn't wrong in her statement, there would be as much cause and effect in her statement as there is in mine.
For the record, the case hasn't been confirmed as swine flu as of this moment, but it's thought to be highly likely.
Rep Paul Brown, (Bag of Rocks-Georgia) was on CSPAN this morning to talk about this. He was asked to comment on the fact that a two-year old toddler had just died of the swine flu. His instant response- the FIRST WORDS OUT OF HIS MOUTH- was "well, first of all, we don't know if this boy was from Mexico, if he was the child of illegals, or not. But what we do know is, we have to get control of our border."
He went on for several minutes, talking about Illegals, Mexico, the Border, and Pandemics. Then he took a call chastising him for blaming immigrants for the swine flu.
His response? To chuckle and tell the caller, "well, I think you misunderstood what I was saying...I wasnt blaming illegals... you misunderstood." He then proceeded to blame illegals again for the swine flu outbreak.
Another caller phoned in to accuse him of scapegoating. Rep Brown's response? "Just like the last caller....you misunderstand what I'm saying...I never intended to blame immigrants...."
Brown was then asked about the nomination of Kathy Sebelius as HHS secretary- "I'm against it, because she's very pro-abortion...." A caller said she was stunned that Brown is a practicing physician, and asked him "did you take the Hippocratic Oath?" Brown's response: "(Laughing) well, the fact is that a lot of people don't take the Hippocratic oath when the graduate from med school, because the oath says I won't perform abortions."
Seriously. Congratulations, Georgia. Brown's not only an idiot, but he's a cowardly liar who won't even defend his own words, moments after they've been uttered.
Seems like there's an endless supply of wacked-out wingers to trot out their gays-guns-god talk whenever someone threatens them with common sense and logic.
What "Freedom" am I losing? I can't afford any healthcare at all! Cripes a roll of gauze in 'greatest healthcare in the world' America bills the uninsured $100 dollars.
If he can use Swine Flu fears to finally force those six figured Big Pharm and insurance company lobbyists to sit down and shut up for once, and actually do something to give affordable medical care to the peasant rabble, then I'm all for it.........
Biden is out there telling people not to ride trains or fly in planes. Whats he "peddle'n"?
Why is the Census Bureau GPS tagging everyones front door?
and on and on
"Why is the Census Bureau GPS tagging everyones front door?"
Ask George W. Bush, since the plan was hatched on his watch...
All Things Considered, July 31, 2006:
Two-and-a-half years from now, in early 2009, the Census Bureau plans to send an army of 100,000 temporary workers down every street and dusty, dirt road in America. They will be armed with handheld GPS devices.
Robert LaMacchia, head of the Census Bureau's geography division, says they'll capture the latitude and longitude of the front door of every house, apartment and improvised shelter they find.
Why has Obama allowed this outrageous info gathering of private citizens to conitue?
Becuase he wants the info too!
The scarry part was who got the contract. Why would HMS want this info?
Obama may not even be aware that it's happening. Did you consider that? Of course you didn't. So what's the sinister purpose? Have you written your congressman or contacted your local media? Or are you content to spout about it in the bowells of America's 26,799th most popular website?
According to links contained in your link, Michael Baker Jr. Inc. got the contract in 2004, also during Bush's watch. I'm not familiar with the company, so I'm missing the part that's "scarry."
There are numerous entities that are associated with the acronym HMS. Which one are you referring to?
Pinafore, I think.