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Matthews falsely equates a "publicly financed [health care] option" with "single payer"

May 03, 2009 5:23 pm ET

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SUMMARY: On his NBC-syndicated show, Chris Matthews falsely suggested that a "publicly financed" health care option is the same as a single-payer plan.

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On the May 3 edition of his NBC-syndicated television show, Chris Matthews falsely suggested that a "publicly financed" health care option is the same as a single-payer plan. Discussing President Obama's strategy for passing health care legislation, Newsweek senior Washington correspondent Howard Fineman said that "the centrist Democrats in the Senate" are "coming out with their manifesto, which is going to say absolutely no to the publicly financed option." Matthews interjected, "[s]ingle payer." In fact, a single-payer system is a government-run health care system. President Obama has said he supports a "public plan" as one of many insurance options available in the health care market, and has explicitly rejected a single-payer system.

As Media Matters for America has documented, the Obama administration has proposed "[e]stablish[ing] a National Health Insurance Exchange with a range of private insurance options as well as a new public plan based on benefits available to members of Congress that will allow individuals and small businesses to buy affordable health coverage" [emphasis added]. In his closing remarks at the March 5 White House Forum on Health Reform, Obama said that "[t]he thinking on the public option has been that it gives consumers more choices, and it helps give -- keep the private sector honest, because there's some competition out there."

Moreover, when asked during a March 26 online town hall discussion, "Why can we not have a universal health care system, like many European countries, where people are treated based on needs rather than financial resources," Obama replied, "I actually want a universal health care system," adding that instead of adopting a "single-payer system" like England and Canada, "what I think we should do is to build on the system that we have and fill some of these gaps."

From the May 3 edition of NBC-syndicated The Chris Matthews Show:

MATTHEWS: By the way, do you either two who are on that side agree with that -- that this is his big enchilada? If he can't do health care this year, it's not a good year. If he does it, it's a great year. How --

KELLY O'DONNELL (NBC News Capitol Hill correspondent): Very much so.

MATTHEWS: Now for the opposition.

JOE KLEIN (Time political columnist): I have been through this show twice before -- with Nixon's universal health-care plan and with Clinton's universal health-care plan. And both times, the Democrats shot themselves in both feet and in the head. And, you know, this time --

MATTHEWS: OK.

KLEIN: -- if they go too far with a public choice option and things like that, you're going to see all kinds of advertising --

O'DONNELL: They have to be careful. You're right.

MATTHEWS: OK.

KLEIN: -- all kinds of advertising against them, and their majority is going to diminish.

MATTHEWS: For the affirmative, why health care looks good this year -- some kind of national plan.

KATHLEEN PARKER (syndicated columnist): Well, I think it's going to pass anyways. It's not in the Republican Party's interest to fight health care. It's just -- it's in the zeitgeist it's going to happen. And what Obama needs to do now is cross the aisle and say to the Republicans, "Look, let's talk. What do you need to see?" And maybe work out some compromises. You might get five to 15 votes in the Senate --

FINEMAN: Yeah. But Joe is right to this extent, Chris. I know that the centrist Democrats in the Senate, including people like Ben Nelson of Nebraska, next week, they're coming out with their manifesto, which is going to say absolutely no to the publicly financed option. That's where the fault line or the --

MATTHEWS: Single payer.

FINEMAN: That's where the fault line -- and Obama's got to square that circle if he's going to get it, which I think he will.

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    • Author by carlileb5935 (May 03, 2009 10:43 pm ET)
         
      This is bad, but not as bad as Lawrence O'Donnell saying a few weeks ago on Olbermann that Medicare was "socialism," but that that's OK. It's not socialism.
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    • Author by irked (May 04, 2009 1:59 am ET)
         
      Mr. Matthews rarely seems interested in another person's expression of opinion. If he is in agreement with someone's opinion, he bulldozes his guest in order to make the point before the guest can. If Mr. Matthews disagrees with the guest, he bulldozes the person with disdain while vociferously ladening the guest with an army of straw men which he promptly torches while denying his guest even the right to articulate his own views.

      But maybe this is all for the best. The politics of fear has worked wonders the past 8 years. Maybe by now, that drum has been beaten too much. Maybe casting this as European style socialist medicine will pave the way to an even more universal health care system; with people thinking: "Heck, what's good about Medicare is pretty darn good. And what's bad about Medicare isn't written in stone. It can change. And if Medicare is European style socialist medicine, maybe we should have more of that."
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (May 04, 2009 4:49 pm ET)
           
        A few weeks ago a poll showed that people's positive response to the term "socialism" has actually gone up the last year or so. Theory is that this constant Republican linking of 'Obama" with "socialism" has helped the reputation ofsocialism !

        But when nudniks like O'Donnell go on Olbermann and crow about how Medicare is socialism, as he did (repeatedly), it just shows that if people can't even get their terms right in an argument, how does anybody begin to change the situation? And O'Donnell is supposedly one of the good guys...
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      • Author by hm1342 (May 06, 2009 11:12 am ET)
           
        Mr. Matthews rarely seems interested in another person's expression of opinion. If he is in agreement with someone's opinion, he bulldozes his guest in order to make the point before the guest can. If Mr. Matthews disagrees with the guest, he bulldozes the person with disdain while vociferously ladening the guest with an army of straw men which he promptly torches while denying his guest even the right to articulate his own views.

        That is pretty much standard fare for any talk show host. Matthews is bad but Hannity and Mark Levin are horrible when it comes to callers or guests who disagree with them. They either talk over the guest, ask a question as a response or fall back to their own talking points, all in an effort to avoid answering a legitimate question. It is a rare host who can allow a guest to disagree and have an honest difference of opinion.
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    • Author by hm1342 (May 06, 2009 11:06 am ET)
         

      I think part of the problem is that no one really knows what is in the proposed bill. As Senator Tom Harkin said on "The Ed Show" on MSNBC last night, the bill is still being crafted and that Senator Kennedy wanted all the input in by May 22nd. So unless anyone has a draft available it's difficult to categorize it as "single payer", "socialized medicine" or whatever. There is enough misinformation on both sides. Regardless of what's in it, the legislation is going to pass and the Republicans cannot stop it.
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