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Media myths and falsehoods about the Supreme Court

May 05, 2009 8:07 pm ET

SUMMARY: With Justice David Souter's recently announced retirement, Media Matters presents a list of myths and falsehoods advanced by the media about the Supreme Court.

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With Supreme Court Justice David Souter's recently announced retirement, Media Matters for America presents the following list of media myths and falsehoods about the High Court.

MYTHS ABOUT THE TRAITS THAT MAKE A STRONG OR POOR NOMINEE

MYTH: Liberals -- but not conservatives -- engage in "judicial activism"

Media frequently suggest liberal judges, but not conservative judges, engage in "judicial activism" -- which media figures often characterize as legislating from the bench. For example, Fox News contributor Fred Barnes said of the process of replacing Souter, "Republicans do have a role here, and it's to talk about judicial activism and the dangers of it"; Barnes also stated that "liberal judicial activism" is "entirely results oriented." And radio host Laura Ingraham recently asserted that Judge Sonia Sotomayor, whom media have cited as a possible Supreme Court nominee, has "been described as judicially liberal, which means you don't favor the principle of judicial restraint." Ingraham later added that Sotomayor is "a traditional liberal and does not believe in, I think, a strict adherence to separation of powers."

But a 2005 study by Yale University law professor Paul Gewirtz and Yale Law School graduate Chad Golder showed that among Supreme Court justices at that time, those most frequently labeled "conservative" were among the most frequent practitioners of at least one brand of judicial activism -- the tendency to strike down statutes passed by Congress. Those most frequently labeled "liberal" were the least likely to strike down statutes passed by Congress.

A recently published study by Cass R. Sunstein (recently named by President Obama to head the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs) and University of Chicago law professor Thomas Miles used a different measurement of judicial activism the tendency of judges to strike down decisions by federal regulatory agencies. Sunstein and Miles found that by this definition, the Supreme Court's "conservative" justices were the most likely to engage in "judicial activism" while the "liberal" justices were most likely to exercise "judicial restraint."

MYTH: Diversifying the court would be inconsistent with nominating justices based on merit

Some media figures have suggested that a deliberate effort by Obama to diversify the court by nominating a woman and/or a member of a racial or ethnic minority would mean that Obama's nominee was not chosen based on merit. Such arguments ignore a different explanation -- that the over-representation of white males means that qualified women and minorities have been consistently excluded from the court.

For example, when CNN host Lou Dobbs asked why all of the potential nominees that CNN's Jeffrey Toobin listed were women, Toobin said that "[m]ore than half the law students in the United States are now women. Almost half the lawyers in the United States are women. There's only one out of nine justices on the Supreme Court who are women. I think President Obama, who believes in diversity, thinks it's time to even out the balance a little bit more." Nonetheless, Dobbs responded by asking: "Are you talking about the death of meritocracy on the court? ... Wouldn't it be strange that this court ruled against affirmative action, racial quotas, and ruled in favor of a truly sex -- gender- and race-blind society that then Justice Souter be replaced on the basis of group and identity politics? ... Wouldn't that be captivatingly ironic?" Toobin then explained that "Obama would say diversity is not opposite of meritocracy. Those are very qualified candidates."

Similarly, Buchanan said that Obama should pick a "liberal, Democrat John Roberts who has real stature, impresses people, maybe even gets Republican votes. But I think what he will do is I think he's gonna go for a minority, a woman and/or a Hispanic because he sees that as their turn."

Some conservatives also reject Dobbs and Buchanan's argument. On the May 4 edition of MSNBC Live, for instance, host Andrea Mitchell asked Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) whether, "all things being equal," Obama should nominate a woman. Gregg replied: "I think that in the legal system which we have today, we have a huge amount of talent out there. And you can -- if you feel that the balance on the court should be addressed relative to women being on the court, which I happen to think is a good idea, you can certainly find a lot of extraordinarily talented people who are -- happen to be women also. And that would probably be good."

MYTHS ABOUT OBAMA'S VIEW OF JUDICAL NOMINEES, THE SUPREME COURT

MYTH: Obama suggested he will nominate someone who shows "empathy" rather than a commitment to the law

Media have falsely suggested that Obama has said that he will seek a replacement for Justice Souter who demonstrates the quality of "empathy" rather than a commitment to follow the law. In fact, Obama has said that judges should demonstrate both. After saying that the clip he was about to air offered a "description of how the president hopes his nominee will interpret the law," Fox News congressional correspondent Major Garrett showed Obama saying on May 1: "I view that quality of empathy, of understanding and identifying with people's hopes and struggles as an essential ingredient for arriving at just decisions and outcomes." Garrett then said: "That aggravates those who believe justices should follow the Constitution and legislative intent."

But Garrett omitted Obama's very next sentence, in which Obama stated: "I will seek somebody who is dedicated to the rule of law, who honors our constitutional traditions, who respects the integrity of the judicial process and the appropriate limits of the judicial role." Obama added, "I will seek somebody who shares my respect for constitutional values on which this nation was founded, and who brings a thoughtful understanding of how to apply them in our time."

MYTH: Obama said it was a "tragedy" that the Supreme Court had not pursued the "redistribution of wealth"

On October 27, 2008, the Drudge Report featured the following false headline: "2001 OBAMA: TRAGEDY THAT 'REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH' NOT PURSUED BY SUPREME COURT."

In fact, as the YouTube audio that Drudge linked to demonstrates, during a 2001 interview on Chicago Public Radio station WBEZ, Obama did not say it is a "tragedy" that the Supreme Court has not pursued wealth redistribution. The "tragedy" Obama identified was that the civil rights movement "became so court-focused" in trying to effect political and economic justice. Obama stated: "And one of the -- I think the tragedies of the civil rights movement was, because the civil rights movements became so court-focused, I think that there was a tendency to lose track of the political and community organizing, and activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change."

Later during the same 2001 interview, Obama stated: "You know, maybe I'm showing my bias here as a legislator as well as a law professor, but, you know, I'm not optimistic about bringing about major redistributive change through the courts. You know, the institution just isn't structured that way." He later added, "You know, the court's just not very good at it, and politically, it's just -- it's very hard to legitimize opinions from the court in that regard. So, I mean, I think that, although, you can craft theoretical justifications for it legally -- you know, I think you can, any three of us sitting here could come up with a rationale for bringing about economic change through the courts -- I think that, as a practical matter, our institutions just are poorly equipped to do it."

Numerous media figures echoed Drudge's false headline about Obama's 2001 remarks.

MYTHS ABOUT BUSH'S SUPREME COURT NOMINATIONS

MYTH: The GOP has taken a consistent position on the appropriateness of judicial filibusters

The New York Times, the Politico, and Roll Call all recently reported on Senate Republicans' threat to filibuster Obama's judicial nominees under certain circumstances without reporting that a number of these same Republican senators previously took the position that filibusters of President Bush's nominees were unconstitutional or otherwise ran counter to constitutional principles.

Numerous conservative media figures also denounced judicial filibusters of Bush's nominees -- with Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, and Donald Lambro all asserting that Democrats' use of such filibusters was unconstitutional.

MYTH: Dems attacked Alito's ethnicity, suggested he went easy on the mob

MSNBC host Chris Matthews, Buchanan, and Limbaugh were among the media that distorted a Democratic National Committee (DNC) document to claim that the DNC had attacked Alito's ethnicity or had accused him of being "lenient on the mob." In fact, the document simply noted that Alito, as a prosecutor, lost a high-profile mob case -- it made no mention of Alito's ethnicity, nor did it assert or suggest that Alito was "lenient" on the mob.

MYTH: Dems invoked a "religious test" for Bush's nominees

Various media figures baselessly suggested that Democrats opposed Bush's judicial nominees based on the nominees' religious faith. The New York Sun editorial board went so far as to assert that a question Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) reportedly asked of Roberts amounted to an unconstitutional "religious test" -- without noting that Durbin's reported question was similar to one reportedly posed to Roberts by Republican Sen. Tom Coburn (OK).

Moreover, despite suggestions by Hannity and other conservatives that opponents of Bush's nominees were injecting religion into the confirmation process, it was, in fact, supporters of Bush's nominees who made religion a key issue. Indeed, both The New York Times and Time magazine reported that the White House and its allies touted Roberts' Catholic faith in attempting to gain support for his nomination from Christian conservatives.

Similarly, during an October 12, 2005, press conference, a reporter asked Bush: "Why do people in this White House feel it's necessary to tell your supporters that [then-Supreme Court nominee] Harriet Miers attends a very conservative Christian church? Is that your strategy to repair the divide that has developed among conservatives over her nominee?" Bush responded, in part: "People ask me why I picked Harriet Miers. They want to know Harriet Miers' background; they want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinions. And part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion."

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    • Author by LuvLuLu (May 05, 2009 8:21 pm ET)
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      The Republicans don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to judicial nominees. MMfA needs to shout this from the rooftops.
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    • Author by sweetnessallpro2391 (May 05, 2009 10:15 pm ET)
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      Perhaps the GOP's opinion on a filibuster will be consistent with Obama's vote on the filibuster on Alito. For those who don't remember, it was: YES.

      Or that the GOP's votes on Obama's nominee will be consistent with Obama's votes on Roberts and Alito. NO votes, if you need reminding, AFTER Obama had proclaimed them qualified.

      So much for the empathy v. commitment to law 'myth.'
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    • Author by Sabastian Curry (May 05, 2009 10:39 pm ET)
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      The role of the supreme court is ensure natural law rights of individuals.

      Natural Law, which is nothing more than simple logic, is that people are born free, and have the righ to their lives, privacy, and their life energy. It is the basic law that defines liberty, or liberalism, freedom, and the right to pursue happiness.

      What are called liberals today are really leftists: social freedom, but economic control; which is the basic mindset of a child - to be allowed to do anything, and be taken care of from cradle to grave. The economic control interferes with the basic tenent of freedom and liberty.

      True liberals believe in real freedom, freedom from man.

      Sabastian Curry



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      • Author by solon (May 05, 2009 11:35 pm ET)
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        What are called conservatives today are morons. They think like children and not very bright children. They think if they say something it magically becomes true because they just arent smart enough to do any actual THINKING
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        • Author by carlileb5935 (May 06, 2009 1:09 am ET)
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          One reason they're morons is because they think Obama was talking about redistributing incomes-- that's not what this is at all (!!!) It's a legal theory about poverty and its relevance to court decisions, as a standing issue.
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      • Author by the Grey Path (May 05, 2009 11:40 pm ET)
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        It's interesting that libertarians despise paying for anything, yet they're the first to demand protection from the big bad wolf.
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        • Author by solon (May 05, 2009 11:45 pm ET)
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          Isnt it the truth. They WORSHIP Ebenezer Scrooge. They want the benifits of a society they dont want to pay for. The libertarians are really the most simpleminded of the political niaves. They THINK that whatever power they take from government will go immediatly to the people. Plain dumb. It will be competed for. Wealth and corporations will scoop it up, poison our land, kill starve and exploit workers and generally oppress us worse than our government EVER did. Govermment is at least somewhat responsive to the people because of elections. Corporations are fascist by definition. Top down rule period and they dont care WHAT the people think as long as THEY can make another dime.
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          • Author by the Grey Path (May 05, 2009 11:50 pm ET)
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            Political and economic systems are a bit more complex: Capitalism is socialism.
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            • Author by jstephens005 (May 06, 2009 9:44 pm ET)
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              Grey, that article is so riddled with falacies, its difficult to follow.

              The entire premise is wrong. The political spectrum is not democracy to monarchy. It is totalitarian on the left, anarchy on the right. In other words, total government to no government. How can you have a political spectrum without anarchy.

              Capitalism is in no way a form of socialism. Capitalism is an economic philosophy, not a form of government. Without intervention, capitalism is dictacted by market forces: supply and demand.
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              • Author by solon (May 08, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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                Without regulation capitalism is ruled by greed, manipulation by the big players and can be defined by crony capitalism and public cost private profit. All risks are socialized and the profits privatized. The tendency is toward monopoly, and the pursuit of the profit at the expense of workers, the environment, and consumers.
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 06, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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            I tend towards libertarianism socially. However, it is simply infantile to believe that government should not be involved in anything other than defense and law enforcement. We, as a society, need and want the FDA, we want the FDIC, we want government to build and maintain infrastructure. The list is very long and it is simply ignorant to pretend like we do not need government. We, as a people, do not want our society to become Lord of the Flies with a strong military. It's silly and expresses a certain ignorance of reality that has become all to common on the right - which for some reason has decided to embrace and promote (and practice) anti-intellectualism. (Along with torture, secession, and several other completely nutty ideas.)

            As a side note, I find it completely and patheticly ironic that the same people who think they support less government intrusion in our lives are the very same people who supported, whole-heartedly, an all-out investigation into a sitting president's sex life and what he and his mistress consider "actual" sex. That was where the Republican party lost me for good. Unfortunately, that crazy idea seems almost quaint and cute compared to how far into the wilderness they have travelled since.

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            • Author by jstephens005 (May 06, 2009 9:35 pm ET)
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              Your second sentence implies you believe the founding fathers were naive. Are you serious? The US Constitution has been historically proven to be one of the best foundations for a nation in the history of the world. If not THE best.

              Our founding fathers envisioned our nation as a republic, with control focused on the states, not the fed. That is what conservatives, and liberterians, want.

              It is absolutely acceptable to pay taxes to a locality or state, in return for local services. No liberterian would say otherwise.

              But, the American people do NOT need the federal government to run healthcare. Nor car companies. Nor banks. Other countries have experimented in that, and have failed. Look at the Success of Cuba. Or USSR. Or Venezuala.

              No one has ever said no government, except anacharists.

              I am a conservative. Show me one anti-intellectual stance (and be prepared to discuss your progressive talking points). Also, show me where conservatives believe in torture (note: contrary to YOUR belief, water-boarding was only recently called water-boarding by a progressive US administration, and was NOT defined as torture previously).

              As for Clinton, you are intellectually dishonest if that is what you believe. The investigation was into his purgory, not the act itself. Yes, it is disgusting that a sitting American president is an adultorer...but that was not the investigation.

              You should not abandon your principles because of the actions of a political party. If you were conservative before, why have you changed? What progressive values have swayed you?
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 07, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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                The United States defined waterboarding as torture after the second World War and the Japanese soldiers who participated in waterboarding were, at minimum, given 15 years of hard labor. Simply calling procedures, "harsh interrogation techniques" does not redefine them.

                As an example:

                "Twenty-one years earlier, in 1947, the United States charged a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, with war crimes for carrying out another form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian."

                http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/04/AR2006100402005.html

                Conservatives only want the power with the states when it serves their interests (see Bush v. Gore).

                What are your thoughts on the "Bong hits for Jesus" case? That certainly seems "anti-intellectual." Beliefs that global warming hasn't been added to by man without showing one peer reviewed study to back up your claim is anti-intellectual. Not believing in evolution in any form (not saying you personally) is anti-intellectual. Trying to silence NASA scientists like the Bushies did is anti-intellectual. Doctoring climate change reports like the Bushes did is anti-intellectual

                I don't think its a long-term plan to keep running the banks, the car companies, etc, do you? If so, why? As far as healthcare, I am guessing you have never had a problem getting it, have you?

                As far as Clinton goes, the definition of sex and its investigation was a costly endeavor.

                Because you think adultery is disgusting, you didn't vote for McCain and you don't support Newt, Rudy etc., right?
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 07, 2009 5:54 pm ET)
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                For starters, the fact that you cannot even admit - EVEN TODAY - that the investigation into Clinton was about sex. Also, I find it irrelevant whether or not a politican cheats on his wife. That's where you and I differ.

                Or the fact that you cannot admit that waterboarding is torture. Do just a little research and you will see that it was prosecuted as such when it came to the Japanese using it on us. As it should have been. Waterboarding is torture! If you cannot see that, then do we really need to go any further into anti-intellectualism?
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              • Author by solon (May 08, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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                You are full of it. Your post is almost insane in its level of brainwashing. His second sentence is ABSOLUTLY correct and it is plain idiotic to say the founding fathers and constitution say the government should only be involved in defense and law enforcement. The preamble to the Constitution makes it absolutly clear THAT take is utter nonsense. ONE anti intellectual stance? Let your barrage of brainwashed talking points begin but pretending that creationism is the equal to evolution and should be taught in science class is pure anti intellectualism and so is Global warming denial.

                Your claim that waterboarding isnt torutre is ludicrous. It was torture when we sentenced the Japanese to prison for doing it to OUR troops and it was torture when it was used during the SPANISH INQUISISIONS, which used nothing BUT torture. You are delusional and brainwashed and flat out do NOT know what you are talking about.
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              • Author by creeksneakers2 (May 08, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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                The investigation into Bill Clinton was about getting something on Clinton. If Republicans wanted the truth instead of perjury, they could have told Clinton before he testified that they had proof of an affair with Lewinsky.

                Ken Starr would not have been able to extend his witch hunt Whitewater investigation into Lewinsky had he not lied to Janet Reno. The independent counsel law didn't cover minor offenses. Starr's investigation was supposed to be into witness tampering and obstruction of justice. There never was any valid evidence against Clinton on these.

                Want proof the GOP was out to manufacture any case against Clinton that they could? Look at the results of all the other investigations. Whitewater, Filegate, etc. No wrongdoing found in any of them.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 06, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
           
        Yeah, anarchy! ANARCHY!
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      • Author by creeksneakers2 (May 08, 2009 6:51 pm ET)
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        The natural law is survival of the fittest. It has no place for rights at all.

        Rights are a man made concept. The group, represented by government, protects the individuals. God doesn't come down and strike with lightning over real estate encroachments.

        Your definition leaves people unfree to make binding agreements in their own interests. Look at marriage. One sacrifices some freedom and independence toward an agreement which benefits both parties. There is no violation of any natural law when, say perhaps, fishermen ask for government control to prevent overfishing that would ruin them all.

        Liberalism does not endorse cradle to grave support of individuals. Most people work and contribute. We pool our resources so no one goes without the most critical essentials. The alternative is to let people die. Since man has a natural desire to protect his species, its "natural" that we might protect our weakest. Its unnatural for one to ignore suffering.

        Liberals endorse free enterprise, with regulations to protect the public. Do you think companies should be allowed to dump toxins in drinking water because preventing them from doing so would infringe on their freedom? We aren't free to harm others. That's what "liberal" regulations are there to prevent.

        By the way, babies aren't born free. They are dependent on their mothers. We are all dependent on each others in many ways.
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    • Author by Sabastian Curry (May 05, 2009 10:44 pm ET)
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      The government should not redistribute anything. Why do you ask to be enslaved?

      If you give them this power they will abuse it. Look what Bush did. Why do you trust this nobody Obama, and his criminal friends?

      Do not make this man your God, he is a looting second hander, with no skills but to sell a big lie, that they are here to help you. They are here to screw you, and that they are doing.

      Sabastian Curry
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      • Author by solon (May 05, 2009 11:41 pm ET)
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        The only people stuid enough to talk about Obama as if he were worshipped are the rightwing screehcmonkeys that tell you what to think. The liberals are all over Obama. The government DOES redistribute it always has. A whole lot of our economy is public cost turned to private profit. Risks are socialized and profits are privatized. Why do YOU LOVE to be brainwashed? Obama has MAD political skills. We will SEE what that brings. Now the guy with NO skills was Bush. Stupid, incompetent, and a liar of epic proportions.

        Ok you have given us the rerun of the Rush Limbaugh show. We already KNEW what he was tellin his mindless minions to think but thanks for showing once again that there are TONS of the brainwashed hivemind out there buying this garbage unable to think for themselves.
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      • Author by the Grey Path (May 05, 2009 11:43 pm ET)
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        Obama is not redistibuting, but merely asking people to pay their fair share to support our community. I'm sure that while you bitch left and right you really enjoy your police and fire protection, roads, airports, security, etc.

        You're just to selfish to be part of your community.
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        • Author by sikvod00 (May 06, 2009 12:55 am ET)
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          Progressive taxation is by its very nature a form of wealth redistribution. I have no problem with "spreading the wealth" to a certain extent (i.e. public education, health care, SS, etc.), and apparently neither do the majority of Americans, since we've had a similar tax philosophy since the early 1860s, when the government first started collecting income taxes. Returning taxes for the top %2 back to their pre-2001 levels hardly constitutes socialism; practicing some form of wealth redistribution is NOT socialism.

          We have a mixedeconomy that incorporates regulated capitalism and provides social safety nets to protect its citizens. The way some pundits and politicians yap on about Obama "destroying" the economy, you'd think there was only one kind of capitalism -- the supply side\voodoo\Reaganomics nonsense we've been practicing for the last two decades.

          And please, for the love of God, stop conflating economic liberty with freedom and democracy.
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          • Author by carlileb5935 (May 06, 2009 1:07 am ET)
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            Don't even argue with this guy. Redistributive change has nothing to do with redistributing incomes-- it's a legal theory about treating poverty as a protected class, and making it relevant to court decisions if necessary.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 06, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
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              You're right. What Obama is talking about in the quote that the right uses, has nothing to do with redistributing incomes. You are correct, and even while we try to argue the obvious merits of a progressive tax it is important to keep in mind, that as usual, the right is simply creating a distraction of an argument because that is what you do when you run out of ideas and facts.
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        • Author by jstephens005 (May 06, 2009 9:54 pm ET)
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          Grey - Again, I have to call you on this. Federal taxes are not required to pay for police and fire protection. That is accomplished through state and local governments.

          Are you familiar with the history of the United States? The founding fathers wanted the control at the state level, and in fact, that is where most local services are funded. Same for roads. State money. Same for schools. The fact that the federal government has insert itself in those areas (and yes, it most certainly has) should be VERY concerning to every American citizen.

          It is progressive ignorance, like yours, that continues the lie that conservatives are selfish. Studies have shown that conservatives donate more than liberals. Conservatives believe that it is up to the local community to help, NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. I'm tired of progressive trash talkers like yourself who are obviously ignorrant to reality spreading crap around from hate web sites.
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 07, 2009 1:25 pm ET)
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            What if the states fail their missions and do not fund their schools the way they should? Are you saying the federal government should turn a blind eye? What about interstates?
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          • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 07, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
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            Right. So we do away with the FBI? Great plan.
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          • Author by solon (May 08, 2009 1:45 pm ET)
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            You DEFINE ignorance. Talking about anyone else's ignorance is pure projection on your part. Your posts are all baseless assertions and you think your OPINIONS become fact because you say them. Your ignorance is legendary.
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          • Author by creeksneakers2 (May 08, 2009 7:46 pm ET)
               
            The founding fathers did not want control at the state level. Article V section 2 of the Constitution states:

            2] This Constitution, and the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof, and all treaties made, or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States, shall be the supreme law of the land; and the judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding.

            Article IV:

            Full faith and credit shall be given in each State to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

            Article III section 1:

            Section II
            [1] The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution, the laws of the United States..... to controversies between two or more States; between a State and citizens of another State; between citizens of different States; between citizens of the same State claiming lands under grants of different States, and between a State, or the citizens thereof, and foreign states, citizens, or subjects.

            Article 1 section 9:

            [1] No State shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

            [2] No State shall, without the consent of the Congress, lay any imposts or duties on imports or exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing its inspection laws; and the net produce of all duties and imposts, laid by any State on imports or exports, shall be for the use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such laws shall be subject to the revision and control of the Congress.

            [3] No State shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops and ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another State or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.
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      • Author by loonz (May 06, 2009 12:17 am ET)
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        We have a lot of commitments and we have to maintain a civilized society and that costs money. If you don't feel like contributing to help maintain our society you're welcomed to leave the country. No one is forcing you to be here.
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        • Author by dexteritas0071418 (May 06, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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          LOL. The hypocrisy.
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        • Author by LChuco915 (May 06, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
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          Yeah. Go to Somalia, where there would be no one to harass you over paying your taxes. See yah!
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      • Author by carlileb5935 (May 06, 2009 1:03 am ET)
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        Do you know what Obama means by "redistributive change?" It's not Robin Hood he's talking about-- it's a legal concept.
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      • Author by thejbomb65 (May 06, 2009 9:45 am ET)
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        who are the worse criminals here?

        president obama and his administration?

        or bush, cheney, and their defense contractor buddies that they took care of?

        given the fact that the previous administration got us into a needless war that only benefitted their friends, and ran the economy into the ground. i'd say there are bigger criminals than president obama.

        but i know in your narrow-minded, short-sighted, view of the world. you refuse to even look at such a possibility. because president obama is something evil to you. well we had 8 years of evil, president obama hasn't shown himself to be the evil that bush was. but i know you will whip out dozens of fact challenged bull crap talking points. but that doesn't make you right.
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        • Author by dexteritas0071418 (May 06, 2009 11:25 am ET)
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          Seems like that if you can't judge the Obama administration on its own merits and philosophies, instead of going back to bad ol' Bush again, you're the one who is narrow-minded and short-sighted.
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          • Author by historygeek001 (May 06, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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            You mean you want to judge Obama without context for his decisions? And you think that would lead to accuracy?
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            • Author by dexteritas0071418 (May 06, 2009 1:00 pm ET)
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              No, but let's take all of history, if you want to do that, vs just the Bush admin. And is your standard really only "well hey he's better than Bush?"
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              • Author by historygeek001 (May 06, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
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                We should take his decisions in context, and that context includes the horrible damage that Bush did to the US. We can't examine his decisions in a void. I think Obama's done an excellent job, though I certainly don't agree with everything he's done (for example, I think that prosecuting torture is essential to the rule of law).
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          • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 06, 2009 12:51 pm ET)
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            It's been just over 100 days. It would seem to ME that ANYONE who would (or even COULD) judge a president after 100 days is the narrow-minded one. The jury is still out on some presidents after 50 years. So you revelase a lack of judgement to try judging Obama one way or the other at this point. We've had 8 years of Bush, and have plenty of ACTUAL, TANGIBLE evidence to point to for our judgement of him. Meanwhile, you have little more that fear motivationg your judgement of Obama. Nothing has actually happened yet, after all. And your anticipation of bad things is exactly the FEAR I'm refering to.
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            • Author by dexteritas0071418 (May 06, 2009 1:02 pm ET)
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              You're mentioning me a lot in your post. What did I say that had anything to do with my personal opinions?

              And don't you think BOTH sides are already judging? Positive judgements are judgements too.
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              • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 07, 2009 10:43 am ET)
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                No. The liberals are for the most part keeping an open mind. Just becasue conservative accuse u s of worshipping obama doesn't make it true. All I hear is conserv atives baselssly tearing him down, all the while claiming the the liberlas love him. Meanwhile every liberal I've spoken to has a more measured opinion - he's done a lot right, and there are several areas where I disagree with him. You know: What actual common sense sounds like.
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 06, 2009 1:08 pm ET)
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        Of course we want the government to redistribute wealth. That's what a progressive tax does and it is what we want it to do. The other option is the French Revolution. The argument is what percentages we want to set the taxes at for each bracket.

        Study just a fraction of lassez-faire economics before you make such ridiculous grandiose statements that make you look so silly. As if every president since Teddy Roosevely has been advocating enslavement of the American populace. Please.

        Nobody has made this man their God. I understand that you on the right are beginning to realize what a horrendous mistake you made by assuming that G-Dub was sent by Christ to be our leader and could not be questioned. However, those of us on the left never stopped questioning our elected leaders. As just one example, I think if you spend even a little time reading left-wing writings with an open mind you would see that the left is in complete disagreement with Obama when it comes to letting those who broke the law in our names go unpunished.
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        • Author by anotheramerican (May 06, 2009 4:12 pm ET)
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          mike,
          It's called Bush derangement syndrome. It's in full flower here still. Apparently it has affected you.

          The reason Bush and his administration will go unpunished is because they did not break the law. Even the biased preliminary Justice Report regarding the "Torture" memos does not recommend prosecution. The original Bush lied canard was invented by Democrats who voted for the invasion of Iraq as a way of covering up their flip flops. They had the same intelligence as the President and after approving the action, did everything they could to try to lose the war - for political gain.

          I find it laughable all those regulars who complained here time and again of the deficits Bush was running up during his time in office. and now that Obama is President, they have all mysteriously done a 180 while Obama and Co. have run up trillions and trillions more in debt. Never asking where will this all end or who will pay it all back? Never questioning the Obama's radical socialist agenda even after the open admission that they are taking advantage of the recent economic crisis for political gain and government control.
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          • Author by loonz (May 06, 2009 4:47 pm ET)
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            -Everything in your post is an opinion and I disagree with it.

            -You lied in your post when you said Democrats voted for the invasion of Iraq. The Congress was repeatedly told by the Bush administration that the resolution was not a vote for war and that it was needed for leverage to get the inspectors back into Iraq. There was no formal declaration of war by the Congress; Bush declared war by himself.

            -The difference is the Obama administration is using the money to get the banking system back on track; employ the unemployed or to make sure those that are unemployed don't go homeless; and he's giving tax cuts and breaks to people who need it. In other words, he's using the money to help Americans (I know helping other Americans is anathema to conservatives but liberals and others are not so indifferent). Bush on the other hand, threw our money down a black hole.
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            • Author by anotheramerican (May 06, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
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              Loonz,

              Thanks for admitting that the Democrats are the most naive legislators ever... That they didn't understand that a war resolution is in fact a war resolution.

              The Iraq Resolution or the Iraq War Resolution (formally the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 [1], Pub.L. 107-243, 116 Stat. 1498, enacted October 16, 2002, H.J.Res. 114) is a joint resolution (i.e., a law) passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War. - wikopedia

              If you believe the Democrats are that dumb you bought it hook line and sinker.

              As for Obama, you probably don't know that the stimulus bill means every family in America is on the hook for an additional $10,000 each to pay back the debt.

              It's great that Obama and the Democrats increased the national debt more than all the other President's combined in his first 100 days. Who is going to pay for it? Can you tell me how the money is being spent? Don't you think that is simple oversight?

              You bought that one, (literally,) hook, line, and sinker as those billions are for all intents and purposes, unaccountable. But you love Obama because he says he's doing it for the poor while he gives it to fat cat cronies in the banking industry and pushes the country toward financial bankruptcy and socialism/fascism.


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              • Author by loonz (May 06, 2009 6:33 pm ET)
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                -What you are ultimately saying is that the Bush administration lied to Congress.

                -You're talking to the wrong person. I think Obama should be spending way more than he is now. I think the stimulus was too small and will ultimately be ineffective in getting the economy back on track. Secondly, all the spending Obama is doing will pay off over time so the debt figure doesn't bother me right now. Thirdly, it's not just spending; it's also tax cuts and tax breaks and all of this adds to the debt. Finally, the country has been bankrupt for thirty years now. We've been running on credit.

                -The reason why Obama is giving money to the banks is for them to lend it out. For every dollar they have on reserve, banks can lend out about eight dollars. If we give them 700 billion dollars, they can potentially lend out 5.6 trillion dollars. Secondly, the money is suppose to be paid back.
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                • Author by Tbone Slickens (May 07, 2009 11:56 am ET)
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                  all the spending Obama is doing will pay off over time so the debt figure doesn't bother me right now.


                  Of course it doesn't bother you. You won't be the one paying it back. The left has saddled our children and their children with this debt. By Barry O'Gump's own numbers my twelve year old is already in the hole $36k.
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                  • Author by Freword (May 07, 2009 12:35 pm ET)
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                    What about Bush when he left Office he let the the us 10 Trillion dollars debt we have to back ?
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                    • Author by Freword (May 07, 2009 12:40 pm ET)
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                      sorry I forgot add pay the 10 Trillion dollars debt back
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              • Author by LuvLuLu (May 06, 2009 7:57 pm ET)
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                It was a resolution to go to war with Iraq if all other avenues failed.

                But that's not what happened. Saddam caved in, and let the inspectors back in, and they told us what we needed to know to not invade, namely, that he didn't have any WMD's.

                You are the liar for saying that it was a resolution to go to war. It was a limited resolution. If...then.
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              • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 07, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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                AA,

                On another thread about the Supreme Court, you mentioned that the Supreme Court has mentioned that other opinions were not to be cited as precedent, could you list those here? Thanks in advance.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 07, 2009 10:13 pm ET)
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                So, that you're saying is if we (or the Democrats) were naive enough to think that president G-Dub was being honest with the American people than we should have known better? Maybe, you're suffering from derangement.
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              • Author by solon (May 08, 2009 1:53 pm ET)
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                A majority of Dems voted AGAINST the IWR
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          • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 07, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
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            Did the Japanese break the law when they waterboarded our soldiers? Did you protest and want Bush to raise taxes to pay for the war?

            The reason I am not protesting Obama's expenditures is that we need a new approach. Bush's approach got us here. Let's try something else. If its proven to not work, I'll protest if he keeps at it.
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          • Author by solon (May 08, 2009 1:51 pm ET)
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            It is called Bush IDOLOTRY Syndrome and you have always had it bad. At this point you just lie to make points you cant POSSIBLY support. Whatever it recommended torture IS illegal and the administration has ADMITTED doing it. Bush DID lie. You know it and are just lying about it now. I have PROVEN it over and over, you have NEVER been able to refute me and just slink away and come back later and make that claim again. Pathetic. Bush lied all over the place about the cost of the Drug benifit about an IAEA report he just made up which didnt exist, Bush is a liar stone cold flat out liar. Bush was spending money GETTING us in this economic disaster with things like unecessary wars and tax cuts for the rich and now Obama has to spend money to get us out of the hole Bush dug. That word socialism you keep using? You dont know what the word means.
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    • Author by rjw.walker5519 (May 06, 2009 2:27 pm ET)
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      Myth: There's something wrong with Judicial Activism, aka "judges making law.

      Fact: we are a common law system: judges have been making law since well before the US Constitution was adopted, and they have continued to do so ever since.

      "Judicial activism" is a central part of our legal system and is, in fact, one central aspect of the "checks and balances" crafted by our founding fathers and mothers for our governance.



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    • Author by indygirl (May 06, 2009 3:49 pm ET)
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      Two examples of conservative activist judges: The rulings in these two cases are unconstitutional: Garcetti v. Ceballos(2006) and Mayer v. Monroe(2007). In both of the these cases the courts abolished free speech for government workers and educators. Free speech took a big hit during the Bush years, but virtually no one knows about these rulings. Questions regarding the rulings in these two cases on free speech should definitely be part of the confirmation process.
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    • Author by captfoster2 (May 06, 2009 4:27 pm ET)
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      Unfortunately... as it pertains to every thread about FoxNoise... I can't help but simply offer this --> LINK <-- ... Nothing more need be said about Fox and what it is able to do, what it has argued it should be allowed to do (in court no less), and what it goes out of its way to do (because it actually went to court to be able to lie)!
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    • Author by Sabastian Curry (May 06, 2009 8:51 pm ET)
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      Judges are supposed to interpret Law, period. Freedom to to own oneself, time, and ones mind is what Liberal American law is based upon. This should be self evident. You choose to live by your own mind, or to follow others.

      American Law protects the individual, or at least it is supposed to. Unless there is liability you are free. America is the only country in history to create a system based on freedom and liberty. And what is freedom? Freedom from man! Freedom from your neighbor. From the government (liberal, conservative, or otherwise). From outside the country.

      Politics by nature has an agenda, and those agenda items are obtained by using collective might against minorities, whom ever they may be; to take any side to is be a racist. The smallest minority is you, the individual!

      Collectives have brought the greatest destruction and madness to mankind, from every political side.

      The key is collaboration, which is the opposite of anarchy, value for value trading between moral individuals. Yes, goverments are are required for the obvious basics - why even discuss? But they must be restained, and there needs to be representation of taxes.

      Obama must appoint a judge that stands for freedom!

      Sabastian Curry

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      • Author by friedbergboy1422 (May 07, 2009 1:06 pm ET)
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        I assume you thought the Goodyear case was a mistake then with regards to gender discrimination, right?

        You also probably feel like the Exxon Valdez case was horrible injustice, no?

        For more about how businesses have been successful with the Bush court, go here:

        http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2008/07/08/91690.htm
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