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Will Holmes, Coulter, Pinkerton follow Wash. Times in retracting Obama polling falsehood?

May 06, 2009 9:44 am ET

SUMMARY: Following The Washington Times' retraction of an editorial falsely alleging that "Americans have a lower approval of Mr. Obama at this point than all but one president since Gallup began tracking this in 1969," will Amy Holmes, Ann Coulter, and Jim Pinkerton also retract the falsehood?

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In a May 6 editorial titled, "We Were Wrong," The Washington Times retracted its false claim that "Americans have a lower approval of Mr. Obama at this point than all but one president since Gallup began tracking this in 1969." The editorial read: "We hereby retract our April 28 editorial 'Barack's in the basement' because we misapplied several polling comparisons of various presidents after their first 100 days in office." Media Matters for America documented several other media figures advancing this falsehood, including CNN political contributor Amy Holmes and conservative columnist Ann Coulter, who each cited the April 28 Times editorial. Media Matters now asks: Will Holmes, Coulter, and Fox News analyst Jim Pinkerton, who also repeated a variation of the falsehood, follow The Washington Times' example and retract the claim that President Obama's approval rating at this point in his presidency, according to Gallup, is lower than that of most or all recent presidents?

As Media Matters documented, the falsehood is based on an apples-to-oranges comparison between an April 20-21 Gallup poll question that asked respondents to "rate the job Barack Obama has been doing as president so far -- excellent, good, just okay, poor, or terrible," and the historical results of the traditional Gallup approval rating poll question that simply asked whether respondents "approve" or "disapprove" of the president's performance. Based on its traditional presidential approval poll question, Gallup itself reported that Obama's average approval rating for the first quarter of his first year in office was the highest of any president since 1969 other than Jimmy Carter, and Obama's most recent weekly average approval rating at that time was higher than the April approval ratings of every first-term president since 1969 other than Ronald Reagan.

Holmes referred to the April 28 Times editorial when she repeated the falsehood, stating that "one of the little-known facts -- The Washington Times reported this last week -- is that, actually, at this point in his presidency, Barack Obama is the fourth least popular of the past five presidents." Holmes added: "You wouldn't know that from the press coverage. And you wouldn't know that George Bush in -- you know, at this point in his presidency in 2001, after having had the recount, not even winning the popular vote, in fact had higher Gallup approvals than Barack Obama does right now."

Echoing the falsehood on Fox News' Hannity, Coulter did not refer to the Times by name, but she did state: "I linked to this on my Web page. He's actually the second least popular president, 100 days in, we've had in 40 years." The link on Coulter's website went to the April 28 Times editorial and cited the editorial's title.

From Coulter's website, accessed at 9:08 a.m. on May 6:

Retracting its April 28 editorial, the Times wrote on May 6:

We hereby retract our April 28 editorial "Barack's in the basement" because we misapplied several polling comparisons of various presidents after their first 100 days in office.

The point of our editorial was that various establishment media outlets were overstating President Obama's popularity. We continue to believe that, in terms of the tone of coverage, the point is valid. However, for data establishing that point, we followed George Mason University professor Judith Apter Klinghoffer's analysis and compared Gallup polling data for elected presidents going back to President Nixon. We did our own analysis but failed to see that some of the polls we were using did not lend themselves to direct intercomparisons.

Most importantly, we used figures for overall "approval" ratings for former President George W. Bush -- 62 percent -- and compared them to the ratings of "excellent" or "good" for Mr. Obama, which combined were 56 percent. However, when asked the same question -- approve or disapprove -- for Mr. Obama for the same three days of his first term, April 20-22, his rating actually was 65 percent, thus putting him above rather than below Mr. Bush.

In short, even if our overall figures did not compare oranges to something almost entirely different like apples, we did at least do something like comparing oranges to tangerines. But close doesn't cut it in this business. We regret the errors.

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    • Author by SaddamHussein (May 06, 2009 9:56 am ET)
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      Coulter lies all the time, so she will not retract anything. Her job is to smear the President.
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      • Author by bwither012965 (May 06, 2009 11:49 am ET)
           
        Her job is to smear [i]liberals[/i. If she spent half as much time criticizing Bush as she did any individual liberal, her book sales wouldn't cover bus fare.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 06, 2009 1:34 pm ET)
             
          Actually, she ight have done even better, just not among her chosen audience.
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          • Author by JamesCraven (May 06, 2009 10:37 pm ET)
               
            Jeez, this is Coultergeist we're talking about. (S)he doesn't know spit from shinola.
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    • Author by mk3872 (May 06, 2009 10:31 am ET)
         
      Fox News should retract their statements, too, because they hammered this all week.

      But of course not. The WT story was a clear case of planting misinformation just for the purposes of giving cover to the right wing noise machine.
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    • Author by dbtexas (May 06, 2009 11:02 am ET)
         
      Are there actually sentient humans that listen and give credence to Ann Coulter?
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      • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (May 06, 2009 1:14 pm ET)
           
        Annie's web site looks like one of those emails that your friend's wingnut grandma forwards to occupy her time. Arlen Specter joined the Kurd Party? Outrageous !! Har har!!

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      • Author by ewl94232 (May 06, 2009 1:16 pm ET)
           
        Now how many MMFA one-line wizards will post apologies to the Washington Times for the untrue things they've said about it?

        I've looked at the Gallup / USA Today poll and the monthly Gallup polls the others were based on. Washington Times is to be commended for their srupulusness but condemned for their timidity. Much more significant than the questions asked was the differences in methodology that render the Gallup Dailies no more comparable to the polls up until about the 1980s than the poll used.

        I agree that the Right is making too much out of too trivial a bit of evidence. One poll isn't enough to base an analysis on. Obama is clearly popular, even at 56%.

        There was deceptive headlining that Gallup couldn't support and tried to cover. The thing is, Gallup did publish two results that can be compared with past results, neither with confidence. The comparison of the 56% with past data is not a lie, but it's not the whole story.

        But just as Right-wing reporters and pundits make too much of this one poll, MMFA and its readers have made too much of the opposition refering to it. Gallup said that Obama's approval rating exceeded expectations at 56%. Klinhoffer pointed out that when compared to available statistics from the past that statement wasn't justified as 56% was the second lowest score. The Right, being in disagreement with Obama on fundamental Philosophical issues as well as the practical decisions they guide, saw a ray of hope and glommed on to it. That was a mistake, the evidence isn't strong enough to support their supposition, but that's far from dishonesty.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 06, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
           
        Sadly yes, and what's scarier is that they vote. (Republican, of course.)
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        • Author by docb (May 06, 2009 5:49 pm ET)
             
          The good news is that repub's idenified at 21% so it is all sliding down hill...Additionally, Fox only preaches to the 'conservative choir'---it is when the MSM repeat this crap that we have trouble!

          MSM is learning that they get 'called out' on this stuff--the commercial sponsors/buyers are contacted..They have begun to 'consider the source'...Obama and team are also calling them out--which I love!
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        • Author by JamesCraven (May 06, 2009 10:38 pm ET)
             
          Even scarier is that we let them drive cars!
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      • Author by anotheramerican (May 06, 2009 3:11 pm ET)
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        Not sadly by any means. She makes me laugh the way she skewers liberals.
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        • Author by jeter2 (May 06, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
             
          Get ready AA, you are gonna get thumbed down big time. Ha!
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          • Author by congero6189599 (May 06, 2009 5:56 pm ET)
               
            You know it! Ha!
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            • Author by congero6189599 (May 06, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
                 
              But what about Amy Holmes? I mean i was watching reliable sources when she profered that lie and I half believed her and had to check my facts because i thought she was providing some new information. She wasn't! It was like watching Sen. Pence repeat the lie about cap and trade and the $3ooo cost to the middle class, Andrea Mitchell let him get away with it, perpetuating the conservative noise machine or echo chamber. I mean they have been told they are lying yet they continue to push these lies,which shows what kind of character they have! Why would you want to listen to them on anything of substance!
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          • Author by juliajayne (May 06, 2009 7:42 pm ET)
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            Gosh, let's see what hilarity Ann has wrought. These are some real sidebusters ;-/

            "Liberals love America like O.J. loved Nicole."

            "We need to execute people like (John Walker Lindh) in order to physically intimidate liberals."

            "Whether they are defending the Soviet Union or bleating for Saddam Hussein, liberals are always against America. They are either traitors or idiots."

            "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity."

            "My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times Building."

            "Usually the nonsense liberals spout is kind of cute, but in wartime their instinctive idiocy is life-threatening."

            "We've finally given liberals a war against fundamentalism, and they don't want to fight it. They would, except it would put them on the same side as the United States."

            "Press passes can't be that hard to come by if the White House allows that old Arab Helen Thomas to sit within yards of the President."

            "The swing voters -- I like to refer to them as the idiot voters because they don't have set philosophical principles. You're either a liberal or you're a conservative if you have an IQ above a toaster."

            OMG, I am ROTFL.....she's so darn clever and witty. RIIIIGHT!
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        • Author by steeve (May 06, 2009 6:07 pm ET)
             
          Do her thousands of lies bother you at all? Even a tiny bit?
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    • Author by LuvLuLu (May 06, 2009 1:30 pm ET)
         
      The media needs to correct their mistake. Next, all the posters who came here and tried to pretend that FoxNews, the Washington Times, Ann Coulter, et al were actually right need to correct their mistakes too.
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