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May 07, 2009 12:02 pm ET

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SUMMARY: Echoing a false GOP talking point, Stephen Moore claimed that "groups like ACORN" received money in the recovery act. In fact, the act does not mention ACORN or otherwise single it out for funding.

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During the May 7 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, Stephen Moore, a Wall Street Journal senior economics writer and editorial board member, echoed the false Republican talking point that ACORN received money from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. Moore claimed that "we know from that stimulus plan that a lot of the money went to liberal special interest groups that helped make the last election possible. Groups like the labor unions, groups like ACORN." However, as Media Matters for America has repeatedly documented, the recovery act does not mention ACORN or otherwise single it out for funding; ACORN itself has said it is ineligible for the funds and has no plans to apply for them.

As Media Matters has documented, Fox News and other media outlets have frequently repeated this false Republican talking point.

From the May 7 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom:

BILL HEMMER (co-host): Let me just be clear. I mentioned $787 billion in the stimulus plan. Of that, 500 billion is supposed to go out to the states, right? So it's a little less than the overall amount. And a --

MOORE: That's right.

HEMMER: -- North Carolina Democrat, [Rep.] Brad Miller, said we're trying to spend $500 billion quickly. That was a quote. I mean, I --

MOORE: Yeah.

HEMMER: -- if you're a taxpayer out there, man, how you feeling about this?

MOORE: Yeah, spending money quickly by the government isn't going to necessarily lead to the most economical ways of spending the money. I mean, I think you're going to see unbelievable amounts of waste.

And, by the way, we know from that stimulus plan that a lot of the money went to liberal special interest groups that helped make the last election possible. Groups like the labor unions, groups like ACORN. Well, does anybody really think that they're going to closely monitor how they're spending that money?

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    • Author by mk3872 (May 07, 2009 12:38 pm ET)
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      Are you surprised? Moore is a high-profile conservative Republican hack who started the Club for Growth and spends his time bashing anything outside of free wheelin' free market propaganda from the safety of the pages of Murdoch's latest conservative rag, the WSJ.
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      • Author by BISHAMON (May 07, 2009 3:06 pm ET)
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        I agree. I am certainly no fan of this truth-challenged, unscrupulous ideologue. But he does say "groups like Acorn." So does he have a point?If you want to refute Moore, as I usually do, don't you have to show that "groups like ACORN" (as opposed to ACORN itself) do not receive stimulus funds? BTW, do the labor unions receive any stimulus funds?
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        • Author by mk3872 (May 07, 2009 7:54 pm ET)
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          The $$ from the Stim goes to local govts and govt agencies, that's been pretty clear. Find the section of the bill that specifies money for ACORN. It does not exist. This is a lie.
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        • Author by solon (May 07, 2009 9:14 pm ET)
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          Not really in this context the term groups like ACORN can reasonably be construed as meaning ACORN and groups LIKE THEM.
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    • Author by dsdnburg112 (May 07, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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      The Republican party must not realize that their hacks are purposely trying to destroy them. As an Independent voter, believer in pro-choice for women's reproductive rights, anti war/torture, and a Deist, how can anyone like me ever join the present day Republican party? Does the expression "cutting off your nose to spite your face" ring a bell.
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      • Author by BillJ-MN (May 07, 2009 2:11 pm ET)
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        They see it as ideological purity. The effect is just as you described.
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      • Author by anotheramerican (May 07, 2009 2:23 pm ET)
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        dsd,

        The real question is, why are you not coming out of the closet and calling yourself a Democrat? As can plainly be seen by your views, you are a liberal.

        Nobody needs to cut off anything. It would be like me saying the Democrats are failing to attract me because I am pro-life and believe in less government and lower taxes.

        If you want to try and fool us by proclaiming yourself an independent, go ahead. The Democrats built their party around people who believe as you so you might as well admit it.
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        • Author by solon (May 07, 2009 9:18 pm ET)
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          That is no where NEAR enough info to say he is a liberal. Nor a Dem. If he is fiscally conservative, believes in a free market approach for healthcare, vouchers, and so on he would NOT be the kind of person the Democratic party built their power base from. We get that to you anyone to the left of Atilla the Hun is a liberal but that is YOUR delusion not in any way representative of reality. I am not a Dem because I find the Democratic Party to be too conservative for me. There are many ways to be independent. Try to keep up
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      • Author by mikehuck1976 (May 09, 2009 12:45 pm ET)
           
        As you will see, those on the far right will now attack you as a liberal. I understand exactly where you are coming from, as I was once a Republican and believe along the same lines as you. What is truly amazing is that the right has decided that they want to be irrelevant politically. They sold their soul to the religious right and it ain't coming back.

        My only hope is that another party does come about from all the people being kicked out of the now obsolete Republican brand. Let Hannity, and Beck, and O'Reilly, and Limbaugh and their few million people who actually drink their Kool-Aid (and who post here regularly in their defense) go with them into the wilderness. Let the pro-torture, pro-secession, homosexual=pedophile, theocratic few have their regional, white, uneducated party. I truly believe our nation is stronger with two strong political parties. Actually, I believe it is stronger with at least 5 strong political parties, but for the time being I would settle for a second.
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    • Author by anotheramerican (May 07, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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      I wonder if MMFA has researched all of the over 200+ subsidiaries and spin offs set up by ACORN?

      It defies logic to believe that Obama, who has spent his career supporting and growing ACORN, (who btw, surreptitiously funneled over $800,000 during his campaign to an ACORN subsidiary,) and acted as both an organizer and legal counsel for ACORN, would create a multi-billion dollar give away program like he did with the ARRA and not payback his base.

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      • Author by BillJ-MN (May 07, 2009 2:54 pm ET)
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        anotheramerican -
        Surreptitiously funneled? Sure, much like I surreptitiously funneled $17 to the person who cut my hair last week. It's called payment for providing a service.
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        • Author by anotheramerican (May 07, 2009 4:23 pm ET)
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          A better analogy is Elliot Spitzer hiring a hooker for $4,300 and then claiming it was for a haircut.

          Obama paid over $800,000 to an Acorn front group, Citizens Service Inc. for campaign advance work and tried to hide the funneling of money to Acorn.

          Excluding the large payments to CSI, one of which was for $63,000 and the other for $75,000 the average amount the Obama campaign spent with other organizations was $558.82 per check on more than 1,200 entries classified as advance work.

          FEC reports show that from February-May 2008, Obama paid $832,598.29 to CSI.

          The payments were for:

          $310,441.20 25-FEB-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
          $160,689.40 27-FEB-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
          $98,451.20 29-FEB-08 TRAVEL/LODGING
          $74,578.01 13-MAR-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
          $18,417.00 28-MAR-08 POLLING
          $18,633.60 29-APR-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
          $63,000.00 29-APR-08 ADVANCE WORK
          $105.84 02-MAY-08 LICENSE FEES
          $105.84 02-MAY-08 LICENSE FEES
          $75,000.00 17-MAY-08 ADVANCE WORK
          $13,176.20 17-MAY-08 PER DIEM

          Interesting services and payments for a nonprofit organization that supposedly does simple canvassing work on behalf of low-income people. Yet the media glossed it over when it is obvious the Obama campaign was funneling money to ACORN.

          http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html

          http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/22/acorn-watch-pt-ii-obama-hid-800000-payment-to-acorn-through-citizen-services-inc/
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          • Author by tman418 (May 07, 2009 7:59 pm ET)
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            And this proves beyond a reasonable doubt that ACORN is receiving stimulus funds...how?
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          • Author by solon (May 07, 2009 9:20 pm ET)
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            Michelle Malkin???? Are you EVER going to stop with these wingnuts sites as IF they had the slightest credibility? Malkin is an idiot and a proven liar. NOTHING she says has credibility. If she said it was THURSDAY, I would check my calender.
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          • Author by BillJ-MN (May 08, 2009 8:23 am ET)
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            anotheramerican -
            I don't see what your point is. The Obama campaign hired CSI to do GOTV work for them. They were paid for those services. CSI is a money-making division of ACORN to help fund their activities. This is not uncommon for non-profits. The fact that an organization is non-profit doesn't mean it can't provide services for payment.

            Let's bear in mind that nothing illegal has taken place. Campaigns pay for GOTV efforts all of the time. CSI was doing what they do. ACORN's peripheral involvement also wasn't illegal or unethical. The payments were miscategorized on reporting to the FEC, but that error was discovered and corrected BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN.

            We should all also remember that, in spite of conservative histrionics, ACORN has never been shown to have produced one single fraudulent vote. They've been operating for decades, all across the country, and you can't show a single fraudulent vote that has been a result of their activities.

            Still, conservatives aren't likely to give up their boogeyman anytime soon.
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      • Author by pros2pros2940 (May 07, 2009 4:02 pm ET)
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        Ahh....more basless accusations. Thanks

        Please return to Fox News or whatever liars you care to listen to..
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        • Author by anotheramerican (May 07, 2009 4:26 pm ET)
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          These are not baseless. You're welcome.
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          • Author by LuvLuLu (May 09, 2009 11:50 am ET)
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            Actually, they are baseless. There's been no fraudulent votes reported due to the fraudulent voter registration done by temp employees of ACORN.
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    • Author by community/individualist (May 07, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      I both watched the clip and read the transcript, I do apologise and invite correction if I am being obtuse.
      the report uses ACORN as an example of the organizations that can and have received money in the stimulus bill. Niether the clip nor the transcript say the bill singled out ACORN to receive money. MMFA should be embarrassed by the(seeming to me)intentional distortion of this clip by -E.H.H., whom it would seem has an ax to grind with either Stephen Moore or Fox News, or both.
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      • Author by Why_Not_Me (May 07, 2009 8:32 pm ET)
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        If groups LIKE Acorn (but NOT Acorn) did receive money in the stimulus bill, then they should have used the name of one of THOSE organizations as an example. The only reason that the name Acorn is used is because Republicans have vilified the organization for alleged (but already debunked) voter fraud, and it's connections to Obama.

        So, the intentional distortion brought to you by Stephen Moore.
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      • Author by LuvLuLu (May 07, 2009 11:00 pm ET)
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        Saying "organizations like ACORN" means ACORN and other organizations similar to ACORN. There is no reasonable translation of that comment that means "organizations like ACORN but not ACORN itself".
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    • Author by markbfoot199 (May 07, 2009 3:36 pm ET)
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      Authorities in western Pennsylvania have accused seven people who worked for the community group ACORN of falsifying voter-registration forms.
      The seven have been charged with either forging, illegally soliciting or illegally filling out voter-registration cards in the lead-up to the 2008 election.

      Authorities in Nevada filed charges Monday against ACORN and two former employees on charges they illegally paid canvassers to sign up voters. ACORN denied those accusations.





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      • Author by pros2pros2940 (May 07, 2009 4:03 pm ET)
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        And your feeling about felons in the Bush White House ?
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      • Author by solon (May 07, 2009 9:23 pm ET)
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        ACORN turned in AS REQUIRED BY LAW, what looked like and probably were falsified voter signups. Those who falsified them were defrauding ACORN. You wingnuts inexplicably took that to mean that ACORN was trying to commit fraud. You guys are so weak and have such little understanding of the issues its just sad
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      • Author by solon (May 07, 2009 9:23 pm ET)
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        ACORN turned in AS REQUIRED BY LAW, what looked like and probably were falsified voter signups. Those who falsified them were defrauding ACORN. You wingnuts inexplicably took that to mean that ACORN was trying to commit fraud. You guys are so weak and have such little understanding of the issues its just sad
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      • Author by LuvLuLu (May 07, 2009 11:02 pm ET)
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        Voter registration fraud, perpetrated upon ACORN, is not the same as voter fraud, perpetrated upon our communities and our nation.

        One happened. ACORN got scammed by some temp employees. The other hasn't happened. Mickey Mouse never tried to vote.
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        • Author by TekVahana (May 08, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
             
          I have a friend who works in the county auditor's office who had the responsibility to tally absentee ballots from our county last election. She found one from said Mickey, filled out by a person who was frustrated with the electoral system who probably felt their vote wasn't going to count for much and did so as some misguided form of protest.

          I wonder if some of the bogus fill-ins the Reds shrill about were of the same sort of mindset.
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          • Author by LuvLuLu (May 09, 2009 11:53 am ET)
               
            Ok, let me say this again, really slowly this time.

            No one who created a false voter registration has tried to vote using that bogus registration.
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    • Author by Freword (May 07, 2009 3:57 pm ET)
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      Moore is a joke
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    • Author by monkeyface (May 07, 2009 5:30 pm ET)
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      Beck just did it again after doing it many times yesterday in his "interview" w the National Spokesperson for ACORN..
      that and now he is on about this "Civilest of Wars" we are apparently in the midst of...

      Comedy if it weren't so scary.
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