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Distorting Silver, Corsi suggested Dems will lose House if Obama falls below 65%

May 20, 2009 7:52 am ET
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SUMMARY: Jerome Corsi mischaracterized an analysis by Nate Silver to claim that President Obama "will need to sustain a 65-percent approval rating to avoid losing the House" in 2010. In fact, Silver predicted that Obama needs that level of support "to avoid losing any ground in the House."

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In a May 18 post on the conservative website WorldNetDaily.com, Jerome Corsi incorrectly characterized a March 30 Esquire piece by FiveThirtyEight.com founder Nate Silver, claiming that Silver "forecast that Obama will need to sustain a 65-percent approval rating to avoid losing the House of Representatives in the 2010 elections" [emphasis added]. But Silver claimed nothing of the sort; in fact, he wrote: "My statistical model shows that Obama will need to sustain an approval rating in the range of 65 percent to avoid losing any ground in the House" [emphasis added].

According to Silver's analysis, if Obama's approval falls below "the range of 65 percent," Democrats will lose at least one House seat. Democrats, who currently control 256 of 435 House seats, would need to lose 39 seats to lose control of the House. That calculation assumes that Republicans would win all of the seats that Democrats would lose (and not a third party), would retain all 178 of the seats they currently control, and would win the currently vacant seat -- for a total of 218 Republican seats as compared to 217 Democratic seats.

From Corsi's post:

If unemployment numbers in the blue states do not begin improving soon, the Democratic Party may start expressing concerns about 2010 mid-term election losses in both governor races and in Congress, many political observers say.

The baseball statistician and political predictor at FiveThirtyEight.com already has forecast that Obama will need to sustain a 65-percent approval rating to avoid losing the House of Representatives in the 2010 elections in which voters traditionally weigh economic issues particularly strong.

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    • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 20, 2009 7:59 am ET)
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      Corsi's a proven liar. There is no reason for him to have any sort of public forum at all.
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    • Author by NAVDOC3rdMAR (May 20, 2009 8:03 am ET)
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      These right-wingers are either to dumb or deliberately misleading the people who listen to him. Typical repugs can't get anything right. President Obama is doing a great job and the repugs can't stand that a black man is kicking their white butts all over the place.
      SEMPER FI!
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    • Author by BillJ-MN (May 20, 2009 8:11 am ET)
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      I'd be very surprised to see any conservatives trying to defend Corsi on this bit of idiocy.
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    • Author by dexteritas0071418 (May 20, 2009 9:15 am ET)
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      The Dems won so handily this past election that they can afford to lose ground in the House in 2010.
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    • Author by bruce1ace (May 20, 2009 9:42 am ET)
         
      The Democrats are so dominant right now that at some point they will lose ground from where they were. It doesn't mean they are doing anything wrong it's just simple math. I don't know that it will happen in 2010, who knows?
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      • Author by magnolialover (May 20, 2009 10:48 am ET)
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        Probably not. I mean, if Obama is polling at 65%, the chances of losing House seats remains slim. Look at what it took for Bush's numbers to impact the party as a whole. He was below 40% before it impacted the make up of Congress.
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      • Author by solon (May 20, 2009 11:19 am ET)
           
        I think Dex is right. Dems are likely to lose some seats in the House in 2010 just going with historical trends but they would need to lose something like 75 seats to lose the house and unless something astonishing takes place that really just isnt going to happen. Corsi is an idiot
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        • Author by SFnomad (May 20, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
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          You need to reread the article ... if they lose 39 seats and they all go to Republicans, they'd lose control of the HOR.
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          • Author by solon (May 20, 2009 1:43 pm ET)
               
            You are right my math was sloppy. That is still highly unlikely.
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            • Author by dexteritas0071418 (May 20, 2009 3:26 pm ET)
                 
              Which also assumes no more GOP seat losses to Dems, which is also highly unlikely. Best representation is that Dems would need a net loss of 39 seats.
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    • Author by RABBITLUVR (May 20, 2009 10:51 am ET)
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      Yeah sure, Jerome. As if you have any credibility.

      Oh, btw, how's the book selling these days?
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    • Author by historygeek001 (May 20, 2009 11:12 am ET)
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      Why would anybody care what Corsi says? He's such a pathological liar that I would check for myself if he said the sky was blue and grass is green.
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 20, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
           
        I hope he never says that, grass would never be green for me again. I'd also miss blue skies.
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    • Author by Ecotopian (May 20, 2009 1:19 pm ET)
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      The problem is that the left-right split in this country has long since moved beyond differences of opinion over commonly recognized realities---e.g., "we need a defense budget, but how big" or "we need corporate regulation, but how much. Now, to a large extent, it's a battle between people who respect facts and people who can't deal with inconvenient realities. Thus, someone like Corsi is able to carve out a career distorting facts and telling people on his side what they prefer to hear. Sad---and very threatening to the democratic process.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (May 20, 2009 3:27 pm ET)
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      Is Corsi still trying to get his hands on Obama's birth certificate?
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      • Author by Easy to refute wingnuts (May 20, 2009 3:28 pm ET)
           
        The only thing Corsi would get on Obama's birth certificate is drool.
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    • Author by my4cents (May 20, 2009 10:03 pm ET)
         
      Isn't Corsi the same guy that did Kerry in with his truth boat or whatever?
      Since when did he become an expert on polls?
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