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AP disputes Reid on Guantánamo "terrorists" but let GOP falsehoods slide

May 20, 2009 4:49 pm ET
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SUMMARY: The AP quoted Harry Reid saying, "We will never allow terrorists to be released into the United States," and then reported: "No one, of course, was talking about releasing terrorism suspects among the American populace." However, the AP has repeatedly reported claims from Republicans without noting the falsehood.

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In a May 20 Associated Press article, reporter Laurie Kellman wrote that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), at a May 19 press conference, "mangled his party's position on the congressional news of the day, that Senate Democrats would join their House counterparts in withholding the money President Barack Obama needs to close the Guantanamo Bay prison until Obama comes up with a plan for relocating its prisoners." Kellman quoted Reid saying, "We will never allow terrorists to be released into the United States," and then reported: "No one, of course, was talking about releasing terrorism suspects among the American populace. Imprisoning them, perhaps, but not releasing them." However, Republicans in Congress have repeatedly claimed that closing Guantánamo will result in "terrorists" being released into the U.S.; in reporting their claims, the AP has not commented that "[n]o one, of course, was talking about releasing terrorism suspects among the American populace."

The Obama administration has consistently maintained that suspected terrorists will not be released into the United States. For example, at a January 27 hearing before the House Armed Services Committee, Defense Secretary Robert Gates responded to a comment by Rep. John McHugh (R-NY) about the administration's detainee policy by saying, "I can't imagine a situation in which detainees at Guantanamo who were considered a danger to the people of the United States would simply be released here." Similarly, during a May 7 Senate hearing, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) asked Attorney General Eric Holder: "Do you have the authority under the law to do this, to bring terrorists into this country and bring them into the community?" Holder responded, "[W]ith regard to those who you would describe as terrorists, we would not bring them into this country and release them, anybody who we consider to be a terrorist, as I think you're using the word."

A May 7 AP article on the hearing reported: "The Obama administration will not release terrorists from Guantanamo Bay into neighborhoods in the United States, Attorney General Eric Holder told Congress on Thursday as he sought to reassure worried lawmakers." Nonetheless, two days later, the AP uncritically quoted Sen. Kit Bond (R-MO) as saying, "The American people have a right to know exactly what the White House plans to do with these terrorists. ... Americans don't want these terrorists in their neighborhood." The article continued: "Bond, in his radio address, said the president 'has no plan for what to do with these killers' and that the administration has suggested some of them may come into the United States." The May 9 AP article gave no indication that, in Kellman's words, "No one, of course, was talking about releasing terrorism suspects among the American populace."

Other instances in which the AP uncritically reported Republicans' suggestions that the Obama administration might release terrorists into the United States include:

  • A May 5 article reported: "Referring to the potential release of detainees now at the Guantanamo Bay detention facility, which Obama has pledged to close within a year, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., asked recently: 'Will these trained terrorists be allowed to travel freely anywhere in the United States? What will their status be? Will they be allowed to stay here permanently?' "
  • A May 4 article reported: "Top Republicans such as Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky have suggested that holding terror detainees in the United States would represent a security threat." The article quoted McConnell as saying, "The American people want to keep the terrorists at Guantanamo out of their neighborhoods and off of the battlefield."
  • An April 30 article reported: "Congressional Republicans -- already critical of Obama's move to close the detention center -- criticized Holder for announcing Guantanamo decisions to European audiences rather than in the U.S." The article quoted Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX) as saying, "Releasing terrorists endangers American lives both here and abroad."
  • An April 27 article reported: "Republicans in Congress say Guantanamo should remain in operation and are mobilizing to fight the release of any detainees into the United States."
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    • Author by FGFM (May 20, 2009 5:08 pm ET)
         
      Reid can go to blazes, the AP criticizing him over this issue is a good start.
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    • Author by loonz (May 20, 2009 5:25 pm ET)
         
      Reid is repeating the retarded right-wing talking point that accused terrorists will be let loose on American streets. The guy is hapless. We need a new majority leader.
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      • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 9:15 am ET)
           
        Well... he not repeating it, he's REFUTING it because the press has thus far refused to correct the GOP talkers when THEY floated it. So instead they point it out to HIM. I'm not big on Reid, and as much as I'd take new leadership, we really need a NEW MEDIA.
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 21, 2009 12:47 pm ET)
             
          I take back what I said. After reading more into this, it seems he WAS just repeating the GOP talking point. Yes, this spineless jellyfish has GOT. TO. GO.
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    • Author by terrapin53 (May 20, 2009 6:17 pm ET)
         
      I thought there were 17 or so Chinese muslims we are clueless what to do with. Its against the law to return them to China because China will execute them and apparently no one else wants them. I'm not sure I want them in this country either. What I have not heard is...what was the reason we ever captured these guys in the first place? As for the AP being consistent in its reporting? Who is other than Fox. Fox is always wrong.
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      • Author by solon (May 21, 2009 1:26 pm ET)
           
        I am pretty sure someone would take the Uighers. No one considers them a threat to anybody except China IF them. Our own milatary said they were not combatants years ago. I would have no problem releasing them here. No Uigher I have ever heard of has claimed any hostility against the US. I dont know why they are still in prison
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    • Author by ewl94232 (May 20, 2009 6:25 pm ET)
         
      So those on the Left who have been equating these 'causers of man-made disasters' with criminals and saying that their rights had to be respected and they couldn't be held without trials ... all of that was wrong?

      They won't be tried under rules of evidence that could result in their being found "not guilty"?

      You are comfortable with them being held until hostilities in what could be a multi-generation conflict have ceased?

      Okay! Golly! I sure had the wrong impression about where you Progressives stood on this. thank you for clearing this up!
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      • Author by vhw28672478 (May 20, 2009 6:31 pm ET)
           
        How are these so called terrorist more dangerous than criminal?
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      • Author by solon (May 20, 2009 7:00 pm ET)
           
        They must be tried if we are going to keep them. A military tribunal is good enough for me as long as the rules allow a fair trial. The standards presumption of innocence no secret evidence things like that. WHO exactly are you citing for your characterization of what us progressives think?
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        • Author by ewl94232 (May 21, 2009 12:02 pm ET)
             
          Maybe it wasn't Progressives. Progressives aren't the only people on the Left. Are you disassociating yourself and those you consider to be Progressives from those positions? What do you expect the future will hold for those found innocent?
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          • Author by solon (May 21, 2009 1:32 pm ET)
               
            Ok progressives those on the left WHO on the left then is saying that they CAN be held indefinitly without trials. I am most certainly disassociating myself, or rather I disagree with, anyone saying we can hold people indefinitly without a fair trial. If we are going to punish someone, say by keeping them in prison indefinitly they MUST HAVE A TRIAL. What happened to the guy who was recently found not guilty by the BUSH era military tribunal? I guess we sent him home that is what we said we were going to do. I havent seen the follow up news story yet. Lets remember a majority of those we sent to Gitmo were just sold to us for bounty by Afghan warlords. Unless we have a good enough reason, that we can show in a trial to keep them it inconsistant with American principles to just keep them in prison. You seem to start from an assumption, correct me if I am wrong, that ALL of these guys are terrorists when we KNOW by the example of the Uighers that this is not the case. Some of these guys are NOT terrorists and it is anathema to hold people innocent of wrongdoing in prison indefinitly
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      • Author by fawltylogic (May 21, 2009 2:38 am ET)
           
        Seriously, what are you talking about?
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        • Author by ewl94232 (May 21, 2009 12:18 pm ET)
             
          Many individuals on the Left have presented the belief that these detainees should be viewed as criminals rather than military prisoners. If you are not aware of that it probably isn't something that you have been endorsing. Do you disagree with that point of view?

          Criminal trials require the application of standards of evidence and proceedure that apply to criminal charges. Most of these detainees were not Mirandized. Most were Not given access to an attorney. Most were not allowed to make phone calls. Most were searched without warrants. Most were denied their right to a speedy trial. They can probably be tried in military tribunals where the rules of evidence and process are different. But they will also have rights of appeal through the U.S. Courts. If their treatment is deemed unlawful they may be recharged, but in any fair trial, none of us can predict the outcome before the evidence is seen and the verdict rendered. Some may be ordered released. They can then be held by the INS pending deportation. But they can appeal that detention. If no country will take them, they cannot be held simply because of that. There will be no grounds to keep them in prison, so they'll be released.

          MMFA has assured us that that isn't going to happen. the only alternative I know of that may be legal would be to view them as enemy combatants in a conflict that is still continuing. In that case they can be held until the end of hostilities. I just want to clarify if this is the expectation and preferred outcome for supporters of MMFA.
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          • Author by solon (May 21, 2009 1:36 pm ET)
               
            See they arent treated as military prioners either. That would be POWS. Remember that during WW2 the military prisoners we thought were sabatuers WERE GIVEN TRIALS. The point is you have to EITHER treat them as POWS or as criminals. Not call them POWS as to how long you can keep them but as criminals as to how you can TREAT them. That is playing the game of having it both ways. I dont think Miranda would apply. The only REAL problem I can see in trying them is IF they were tortured none of that evidence could POSSIBLY be used. Basic decency demands that. It THAT is a problem it is one of our own making and we will have to pay the cost for it. I am not against military tribunals as long as basic standards of a fair trial were applied.
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    • Author by my4cents (May 20, 2009 8:58 pm ET)
         
      Senator Reid should clarify that all the people being held in GB are suspected terrorists (enemy combatants actually) only and he has no idea on how many of them are actual terrorists.
      And so should every elected official that says 'I don't want these terrorists in my state'.

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    • Author by eweston8542983 (May 20, 2009 11:00 pm ET)
         
      Where are the World Trade Center terrorist bombers?
      In american jails, where somehow, they have failed to escape to terrorise everybodies Grandmothers. What's up with that?
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    • Author by fawltylogic (May 21, 2009 2:41 am ET)
         
      I'm so glad that the fight to keep convicted terrorists from being released is won. All those hordes of people who demanded that convicted terrorists should be let go surely have egg on their faces now, don't they! Take that!
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    • Author by fawltylogic (May 21, 2009 2:41 am ET)
         
      I'm so glad that the fight to keep convicted terrorists from being released is won. All those hordes of people who demanded that convicted terrorists should be let go surely have egg on their faces now, don't they! Take that!
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    • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 1:11 pm ET)
         
      Ok, so Obama isn't a complete moron. He's not going to release terrorists into the streets of America. He's just going to put them in our jails on our dime. He' going to give them constitutional righs to attorney and jury trial on our dime. And the media and human rights groupsmare going to cry and moan that these "man made disaster-ists" are being held illegally and should simply be deported to their respective countries where they promise they won't rejoin any "freedom fighting" organization that behead people, fly planes into building, or bomb infedels in their homes, places of worship, and places of work, without any regard for life. Not even their own.
      Sure, Obama isn't releasing terrorist into our towns, but he is not going to prevent terrorist organizations from existing. He will be seen as weak by terrorists. I am afraid we will be attacked again.
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      • Author by solon (May 21, 2009 1:41 pm ET)
           
        Which rightwing screechmonkey that tells you people what to think came up with this man made disasterist bilge? I keep seeing it. So what is YOUR evidence that all those in Gitmo are terrorists? WAIT our own military says the Uighers are NOT combatants of ANY kind much less terrorists. Ok you are scared. Go ahead and hide under your mommys bed if that will make you feel better but I for one am not taking the claim that YOUR being scared is a good enough reason to rid ourselves of those pesky American values seriously.
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        • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 2:16 pm ET)
             
          Do you like it? I made up myself. (With a little help from the DOJ.) Are there innocent people being held in gitmo? Well then lets get on with the tribunals and find out. Lets let those good people go!
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          • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 6:08 pm ET)
               
            Janet Nepolitano coined the phrase "Man Made Disaster" refeering to terrorist events. I just put the -ist on it. I was being sarcastic. You libs don't have much of a sense of humor.
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            • Author by solon (May 23, 2009 8:14 am ET)
                 
              You cons just arent funny. You THINK you are but you arent.
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        • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 2:30 pm ET)
             
          by the way solon, I just want you to know that you are my favorite person on this site. You are so mean and arrogant and insulting with every post it just reinforces my position that the left is nothing but empty promises they can't hope deliver even if they cared to. You seek to reduce people to goverment drones who work to subsidize people who are "less fortunate." The more people on welfare the better right solon. The more people in unions and on a massive goverment payroll the better right? Any way, thanks for the practice you provide me. you are very well versed in centrist propaganda. The leftists I run into in my daily life don't stand a chance Are you an ivy league professor? Just curious. Another curiosity: can you tell me where our inaliennable rights come from?
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          • Author by solon (May 21, 2009 2:49 pm ET)
               
            I am sure it wont come as a shock to you that I dont stay up nights worried about what you think of me. Your logical fallacies are just so cute. What could I possibly mean about the entirity of the right even though you are not telling the truth. I HAVE made posts to you with no insults. It is funny that the term YOU made up is repeated by quite a few dittoheads on political sites. I guess that is just a coincidence. The right of course wants to starve children allow the poor to DIE, get Americans killed in useless wars because they just LOVE to see Americans die. All that tripe of course is just as baseless as your insulting mischaracterizations of what I want. Isnt it easy. You just pull rude and worthless mischaracterizations of the other guys positions out of your rectal database and assign venal motives. I could do it all day. Of course it furthers debate in NO WAY but then you dont really care about that do you? What you really have against me is the way I shred your weak arguments. I think that is pretty easy to see. Really it isnt that hard to do. As for my personal information it frankly isnt any of your business nor is it in any way relevant. It is about WHAT is said not about WHO says it
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            • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 3:13 pm ET)
                 
              Fair enough. You don't understand our constitution, or the blessings of liberty and free markets and you never will. but please enlighen me. Where do are inalienable rights come from?
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              • Author by solon (May 23, 2009 8:15 am ET)
                   
                We had this argument before what is OBVIOUS is that YOU are the one with no understanding of our constitution. I showed that. You think federal highways are unconstitutional. Cough up a constitutional schoalr that agrees with you on that one.
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            • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 6:05 pm ET)
                 
              Come on solon. You do know where are rights are derived from don't you. I mean it is relavent to your position on health care.
              How dare you suggest that I, being on the right, wants to starve children and allow the poor to die. I have personally provided health care to many families and assisted more poor people that I can count. It's called charity and voluteering. I volunteer time and money to help people who can't afford health care. I do it without government mandate. I give money directly to people who have lost houses, property and lives to seemingly unlimited varieties of misfortune. I do it because I hate to see suffering. I do it on my own conscience. And most importantly, I do it without increasing to power and influnce of government. What I do is part of the American dream. The left is correct in principle. The poor, hungry, sick people should be assisted. Where you are wrong is that every one should be forced to do it. I don't consider my self financially rich, but my family is able to many things because our hard work to earn a living and do with it what I please (the majority of it anyway). And it pleases me very much to help others. Some millions of people in this country would be much better off if they weren't forced to fund so many programs that don't even help in the long run. You can pigeon hole me how ever you want, but if you accuse me of being selfish, or heartless or that I want people to starve and die, you are just showing your ass. I don't think you have any idea what it is to truly get on the ground and actually help people. I think you have spent to much time in a class room thinking about ways to make other people help the poor because you can't be bothered with such trifles. I also think that this is the problem with the left. I believe liberty and capitalism are the only way to advance every one's lives, despite their financial or social background. And I believe a powerful central government is not only detrimental to liberty, but dangerous to the live of people who become dependant on goernment programs. I believe that Liberty, morality, personal responsibility and charity are the foundation of a civil society. And I also believe that these thing are not the duty of our government, but of the people. And if I'm not sure of an issue, I will always take the side of indvidual Liberty.
              I beleive the left to be arrogant and short sighted. I want you who have the means to act responsibly and charitibly. I want all people to enjoy the fruits of their labor in a free life. And I want those who are down to be free to pick them selves up and better themselve though their own ambition. Of course there will always be need of charity. I won't nullify my little speech by claiming that every will be saved and cured by capitalism. For my part I will continue to be charitable and compassionate and I will do it without Barrack Obama or any other person or government forcing me to.
              Since you don't seem to know I'll enlighten you. Our rights come from nature and nature's God. If you don't believe in God then just say nature. Government did not give them. Government can not take them away. In the 230 plus years of this country the right to bear arms has not cost the taxpayers of this country one dime. Nor has the right of free speech, press, assembly or the right of me to run around my house naked if I want to. I would like our country to retain the principle it was founded on and reject at every turn any one who would seek to pervert them for the sake of power.

              P.S.- I don't know if you care, but I detest George W. Bush.
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              • Author by solon (May 23, 2009 8:21 am ET)
                   
                Of COURSE I knew. I dont believe there is a concept that exists that you can illuminate for me. You really like that weird combination of abject stupidity and condescension. You really arent very bright are you. I dont do requests. You can ask all the irrelevant questions you want the fact I dont answer them just means I am ignoring you not that I dont know the answer. I dont dance to YOUR music. You dont really have much reading comprehension do you. Those things werent meant to be taken seriously but I just LOVE the way you whine about MY mischaracterizations of YOUR positions right after you so rudely mischaracterized MY positions. It was CLEAR by my post that was the point I was making. Feel free to keep boring us with your bona fides but anyone who tries so hard to convince everyone else what he CLAIMS he does is pretty suspect to me. We have no way of knowing you do the things you claim so what is the point of claiming you do them? I will make you a deal you STOP making rude mischacetrizations of MY opinions I will stop doing the same thing to YOU.
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            • Author by GalaHGL (May 21, 2009 9:56 pm ET)
                 
              I know your personal info ins't my buisness. I was just curious as I said. You are obviously intelligent and angry. I just thought it would be cool if I was debating a big leaguer. In that small way I think it is important to know who you are talking to. I of course am not going to tell you who I am and would expect noithing less from you. I'll just pretend your an Ivy League professor if it doesn't bother you. The next time I see you I will carefully edit myself from making crass characterizations about liberals. That is what I don't like about Rush. Perhaps you could return the favor by at least considering that there are some independant conservative thinkers out here that can think for them selves and are creative and funny and are basically good people.
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              • Author by solon (May 23, 2009 8:26 am ET)
                   
                Once again you make assumptions based on facts not in evidence. I am not angry. I amuse myself here. Also I am quite aware of many good smart conservatives. I am old enough to have been cutting my political teeth in the days of Barry Goldwater and John Danforth. I didnt agree with them but they were honest and smart. William F Buckley, Orrin Hatch. I dont agree with them but they are honet people and Buckley was brilliant though he IS dead now. I HAVE conservative friends. They dont treat me with the disrespect of telling me I believe insulting BS. If they DID. I would say the same things to them.
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