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Will baselessly claims Sotomayor "embraces ... idea of categorical representation"

May 27, 2009 8:49 am ET
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SUMMARY: In his Washington Post column, George Will baselessly claimed Sonia Sotomayor "embraces identity politics," including the notion that "members of a particular category can be represented -- understood, empathized with -- only by persons of the same identity."

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In his May 27 Washington Post column, George Will baselessly claimed that Supreme Court nominee Judge Sonia Sotomayor "embraces identity politics, including the idea of categorical representation: A person is what his or her race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual preference is, and members of a particular category can be represented -- understood, empathized with -- only by persons of the same identity." Will made this assertion after noting that, in a 2001 speech, Sotomayor said, "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn't lived that life." In fact, in that speech -- almost immediately after the part Will quoted -- Sotomayor stated that she "believe[s] that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable."

As Media Matters for America has noted, Fox News host Megyn Kelly, among others, misrepresented Sotomayor's "wise Latina" comment, claiming she suggested "that Latina judges are obviously better than white male judges." In fact, Sotomayor was specifically discussing the importance of judicial diversity in determining race and sex discrimination cases.

From Sotomayor's 2001 speech, published in 2002 in the Berkeley La Raza Law Journal:

Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge [Miriam] Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice [Sandra Day] O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O'Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life.

Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice [Benjamin] Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown.

However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage.

From Will's May 27 Washington Post column:

[National Journal columnist Stuart] Taylor has also noted this from a Sotomayor speech to a Hispanic group: "I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion [as a judge] than a white male who hasn't lived that life." Says Taylor, "Imagine the reaction if someone had unearthed in 2005 a speech in which then-Judge Samuel Alito had asserted, for example: 'I would hope that a white male with the richness of his traditional American values would reach a better conclusion than a Latina woman who hasn't lived that life' -- and had proceeded to speak of 'inherent physiological or cultural differences.' "

Her ethnicity aside, Sotomayor is a conventional choice. The court will remain composed entirely of former appellate court judges. And like conventional liberals, she embraces identity politics, including the idea of categorical representation: A person is what his or her race, ethnicity, gender, or sexual preference is, and members of a particular category can be represented -- understood, empathized with -- only by persons of the same identity.

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    • Author by magnolialover (May 27, 2009 9:39 am ET)
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      So I heard a fellow judge, a Reagan appointee, who said that her record was just fine. That he knew here as a liberal person, but as a very competent jurist with a great track record of ruling along the lines of the Constitution, and that her personal feelings did not get tangled up in how she ruled.

      As more conservatives come out and attack her, and so far, it has only been pundits and media conservatives, the better she is going to look I think. We've seen this all out all or nothing attack already, and this started even before she was nominated, but now, it's reaching apogee and will stay there for awhile no doubt with the screech monkeys like Limbaugh saying she's a racist, or a reverse racist, whatever that means.

      Keep digging those holes fellas, keep digging. There is no rationale, other than being nominated by Obama, as to why she shouldn't be seated, and there are a few republicans basically already saying that.
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      • Author by historygeek001 (May 27, 2009 12:22 pm ET)
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        I don't think that the Republicans in general are interested in doing anything except getting back into power. I haven't heard any new ideas from them, only rehashing the old (while saying we shouldn't look back at any and all lawbreaking by the Bush Administration) and saying that everything Obama is doing is wrong. They would, and will, oppose ANYBODY Obama proposes, no matter what, just because they oppose Obama. Their criticism of Sotomayor is based on that opposition, not on anything she has done. They will carefully take anything she has ever said out of context to make it fit whatever they want, ignore her qualifications, and delay her confirmation as long as possible.

        IMHO, they've shown that they are absolutely uninterested in anything resembling cooperation on virtually everthing, so the Dems should go ahead and enact whatever they can without Republican input until they figure out that "compromise" does not mean "doing whatever the Republicans say."
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        • Author by magnolialover (May 27, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
             
          Thing is, on this nomination, the lawmakers of the GOP, the folks with the actual power, have been mostly silent... If they were going to start opposing her, they would have done it already. Not saying that they won't, and if they do, they might actually think it out beforehand, but I am willing to bet some of them will vote for her, just like some democrats voted for Alito, and a lot of democrats voted for Roberts.
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          • Author by Conchobhar (May 27, 2009 3:04 pm ET)
               
            You might be right, but I wouldn't count on it. The Republicans have been much more adamant than Democrats, going back to Clinton, about ideological control of the Courts. They also have much more rigid party discipline, and only two modrates. This time they may make the calculation that they would damage themselves too much, politically, by attacking an Hispanic woman who embodies the "American Dream," especially since she wouldn't shift the ideological balance of the Court. But look out if and when Obama names a replacement for Kennedy. Then all the knives will come out.
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        • Author by mari2jj2970 (May 28, 2009 1:39 am ET)
             
          If Republicans want to get back into power, they will have to reform enough to get some of us who have left the party in spirit back to voting Republican. Frankly, I am so ashamed of Republicans now even after 55 years as a registered Republican. I cannot abide their racist comments, nor their delivery of the entire party to such blow hards as Rush and Shawn and Newt. They have succeeded in losing the vast middle ground Republicans so I think they will be out of power and eventually someone will start a new party in opposition to the Democrats. Till then, Happy Minority, Republicans. You cannot count on any of us moderates putting up with your slime any more. Now your behavior will wipe out your Hispanic voters. Racism never works.
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    • Author by phredicles (May 27, 2009 10:28 am ET)
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      George Will once again shows why he's perhaps the most over-rated media intellectual by hopping on his anti-PC/"identity politics" hobbyhorse as soon as someone of a different ethnic background is nominated to a high office. Go choke on a baseball bat, George.
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      • Author by Preston (May 27, 2009 11:45 am ET)
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        Yet so many people predicted that Will would be the William F. Buckley, Jr. of his generation. Ha! What a joke!
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        • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 27, 2009 11:52 am ET)
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          Will isn't qualified to wash Buckley's underwear.
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          • Author by phredicles (May 27, 2009 12:20 pm ET)
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            Yeesh, there's an image I didn't need...
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            • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 27, 2009 12:24 pm ET)
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              Well... in another thread today, I had Ann Coulter walking around her "glass house" naked.

              So I'm really on a roll with the disturbing images today.
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 27, 2009 11:54 am ET)
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      "members of a particular category can be represented -- understood, empathized with -- only by persons of the same identity."

      George... If you're basing your ability to empathize with black people on your friendship with Thomas Sowell, you may be overstating it a bit.
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    • Author by kate_the_curst (May 27, 2009 1:28 pm ET)
         
      thank you for posting this.
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    • Author by Conchobhar (May 27, 2009 2:08 pm ET)
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      The recent questioning of lawyers by the Supremes in the case of the 13 year-old honor student who was strip searched on the rumor that she might be carrying a prescription strength Tylenol or such like, proved Judge Sotomayor's point.

      Only Justice Ginsberg seemed to be able to recognize the harm that this violation of the person would do. The questioning of the male justices was embarrassingly crude and smarmy. If I heard any of my sons (two of whom are adults) speak the way those old white males did about such treatment of a girl or woman (or of a boy or man, for that matter), I'd smack him, for the first time in his life.
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      • Author by mari2jj2970 (May 28, 2009 1:50 am ET)
           
        Yes, you really show the crux of this matter. These GUYS are simply unable to make any statements about this nominee without blasting Hispanics,. My great-great-grandson called me from Texas and told me his Hispanic friends in the 6th grade are even "sad" about how they are treating this Supreme Court nominee. Of course, there may only be a very few racist Republican legislators, but all0owing folks like Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh to speak for the Party without totally disavowing what they say only shows their gutless problem. But if they keep it up, they will be forever out of the majority and their numbers will continue to dwindle over the years. When I was in Texas, our Republican Party counted on huge Hispanic votes. Now, with the Republican history of harassment of Hispanics and their treatment of this very outstanding nominee, Republicans may lose Hispanic votes for all time. And I will be the first to say they deserve it although I've been a Republican for years and years.
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        • Author by Conchobhar (May 28, 2009 1:35 pm ET)
             
          Thanks. You take me back to those "thrilling days of yesteryear," when I didn't have to hem and haw for ten minutes before I could think of a Republican I could respect.
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    • Author by jcalton (May 28, 2009 10:42 am ET)
         
      Has George Will always been this insane, or did it only start when Obama's campaign started? He always seemed (mostly) fine to me in the past [and I don't mean the recent past]. One of the more reasonably righty pundits on Sunday morning.
      Seriously, think about it: what a beautiful world we'd be living in if O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush, Cheney (the pundit), Gingrich, Savage, etc were all replaced by (old) George Will. If he was as far right and far from the truth as things got, I could live with that. Political detente, like back in the 80's.

      But at some point he changed, and I'm trying to figure out when. If it wasn't Obama, then maybe it was when world scientific consensus on climate change became irrefutable that sent him over the edge.
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